re-establish the

connection. Well, we could

have the office manager go

to the server room again. I

don’t think so.

The WattBox has what is

termed a self-healing auto

reboot. That’s a mouthful.

Here’s how it works.

The WattBox is connected

to the internet. When

connectivity is lost, the

WattBox automatically

detects it and automatically

turns the modem and

router off and then powers

them up in sequence.

Again, no trips to the server

room. No guessing what

the problem is. It just

works.

(Continued on page 2)

I’m visiting my daughter in

Bay Village, Ohio. It’s a warm

day in the summer with a

nice breeze blowing off of

Lake Erie. A good day.

Well, guess what? I get a call

from a client and their

Internet is not working. I ask

a few questions and decide

either the modem or the

router is hung. It’s a long

way to Linden, Texas to

power off and then power on

the modem and the router…

don’t you think?

In years past, I would have

to direct the client’s

employee, usually the office

manager, to find the correct

device and unplug, wait 30

seconds, then plug it back

in. That’s often easier said

than done.

Unplug what? What wire?

More than once I’ve had

people tell me they were

unplugging the power

adapter to the router. I

found out later they were

unplugging the network

cable. It happens.

We don’t have to do that

anymore for this client in

Texas. They have a WattBox.

Yes, a WattBox. We can be

anywhere in the world, log

into the management portal

with a smartphone or computer,

and turn off the router and the

modem with the click of a

mouse. Then, the WattBox will

wait two minutes, start the

modem, wait two more minutes

and then start the router.

Problem solved. One for the

WattBox.

I’m happy, the client’s happy,

and the office manager doesn’t

have to poke around in the

server room where she is not

comfortable at all.

Let’s look at another situation.

Sometimes your internet service

goes down. Everyone is waiting

for it to come back up.

Productivity crashes. People are

away from their desks. It then

comes back and you still don’t

have service because your

modem and router have to be

powered down and back up to

Hemard & Company

September-October-November 2016

Client Connection

Inside this issue:

What’s A WattBox? 1

News and Commentary 1

Of Apes And Babies 2

How To Attend A Meeting-Pt 2 2

Books I’ve Read Recently 3

Time Well Wasted 4

The Last Time 7

From the desk of Victor E Hemard Jr, President

News And Commentary:

The Real Purpose Of

Obamacare

“They’re dropping like flies.

The health-insurance giant Aetna

has announced it will exit 11 of the

15 health-insurance exchanges

where it sells Obamacare plans.

Aetna’s announcement comes on

the heels of news that

UnitedHealthcare, Humana, Blue

Cross and Blue Shield of New

Mexico, Blue Cross and Blue Shield

of Minnesota, and Texas’ Scott and

White Health Plan, and 70% of

Obamacare’s failed Co-Ops, and

other insurers will exit many or all of

the exchanges for which they had

previously shown such enthusiasm.

The ongoing and nationwide exodus

of insurers is just the latest piece of

evidence that Obamacare is a failed

law built on false promises.”

Michael F. Cannon, Time.com,

August 26, 2016.

Anyone surprised by this recent

revelation of Obamacare’s failure?

(Continued on page 8)

WattBox

If you remember last March at the

Cincinnati Zoo, a giant 400 pound gorilla

had to be shot and killed.

The gorilla, called Harambe, was violently

dragging a four year-old boy. After 10

minutes, it was clear the boy would not

survive if nothing was done. They decided,

rightfully so, to take out the gorilla. He was

quickly and humanely dispatched. The boy

was saved and only suffered minor

injuries.

Quickly, the Black Lives Matter

organization geared up to protest the

killing of the gorilla. Then, they found out

the boy was African American.

Oh… Never mind.

Can you believe some people believe the

boy should not have been saved? That’s

right. Survival of the fittest between a

gorilla and a four year-old. If the kid gets

ripped apart, that’s okay?

Others were saying the gorilla was just

trying to protect the child. I think that’s

only true in the movies. The zookeepers

who know their animals like their own

family didn’t believe any nurturing of that

sort was going on. I’m sure they hated to

make that call. But it was the only call they

could make under the circumstances.

People on social media ripped on the

mother, too. Oh yes, she was called

everything in the book. I don’t know the

circumstances. She may have been one of

those parents who let their kids do…

whatever. On the other hand, she may

have been distracted by her other children

and lost track of things.

Only a sick and deeply disturbed person

would have trouble deciding if the child’s

life was more important than the gorilla’s.

I’m not an animal hater. I probably

wouldn’t be called an animal lover, either.

To be an animal lover these days, you

have to have at least one dog or cat sleep

in the bed with you. I don’t qualify. Any self

-respecting dog or cat couldn’t stand the

(Continued on page 8)

When you’ve been

connected to your internet

service for long periods of

time, sometimes your

connection speed slows

down. It’s a good practice

to turn the modem and

router off and then turn

them on to establish a

fresh connection. This

should be done about once

a week.

In order to be proactive, we

do some scheduling with

the WattBox. We schedule

a weekly routine for the

(Continued from page 1)

WattBox to do once a

week, every week.

Depending on the network,

we have the WattBox turn

off the modem and the

router in the middle of the

night, wait two minutes,

and power them back up in

sequence, with two

minutes between the two

devices. Sometimes we

include switches and

wireless access points,

depending on the network.

The WattBox also offers an

additional layer of surge

protection. It will give itself

up to keep your network

equipment safe.

Want to know more about

WattBox?

Just contact us and we’ll be

glad to answer your

questions and discuss the

options available.

The cost is quite reasonable

and will save you money

with less downtime,

improved productivity, and

fewer headaches.

And, your office manager

can stay out of the server

room.

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Client Connection

Of Apes and Babies

How To Attend A Forestry Association Meeting—Part 2

Well. I hadn’t planned on

having Part 2 from the

article in the last issue

(www.hemard.com/

CC2016-08). You know,

that’s the way life works.

You make plans, and in the

meantime, life happens.

In How To Attend A Forestry

Association Meeting, I

talked about the

importance of being

productive at these

meetings. This included

proper planning, being

engaged with the

members, tips and tricks,

and making the technical

sessions.

Guess what? I forgot to tell

you one thing: Have fun!

That’s right. I decided this

year I would get the most

out of each meeting. I also

decided I would have fun

with it, too.

It was off to Lake Charles

for the Louisiana Forestry

Association meeting with a

new attitude.

A couple of days before

the meeting, I received a

call from a client to let me

know a group of friends we

usually have dinner with

were getting together the

first evening. It was an

unexpected pleasure to

have dinner with the

Allens, the Johnsons, and

rest of the group. It was a

lot of fun.

Even if you don’t get an

outright invitation, you can

still have dinner with

someone or even several

people you know. Just ask.

You’ll be surprised at the

results.

I made all the technical

sessions and dinners, as I

had planned to. There

were a couple of breaks

available during the mid-

afternoon of each day. The

weather was warm and the

pool was too much to

resist. The first afternoon, I

ran into an old friend who

worked for Weyerhaeuser

and his wife. We had a

drink poolside and spent

some time talking about

our families. I also floated

on the lazy river. More fun.

The next afternoon at the

pool there were people I

knew who were old friends

and clients. A couple of

people convinced me to try

the water slide. Now that

was unique experience and

really fun. Something I

wouldn’t have done without

some prompting.

One of those challenging

me went to LSU with me

and is year older. Well,

there was no way I was

going to leave that pool

area without going on both

water slides. If he could do

it, I could. I’m glad I did.

(Continued on page 3)

Page 3

How To Attend A Forestry Association Meeting—Part 2 (continued)

Meet Hunter Lewis

I’ve said this before. Meetings are a great

way to stay current with your industry and

learn new things. You can also re-connect

with clients, customers, and friends.

Much to my great fortune, I was able to do

all these things at the Louisiana Forestry

(Continued from page 2) Association meeting and had fun to boot.

That’s the final bit of advice I failed to

provide in the last issue.

If you’re not into the pool scene, most

meetings have sporting clays or golf.

There are also planned social events

before and after the technical sessions

and dinners.

This is my message. Have fun with it.

Hang out with people with a positive

outlook and common interests. Try

something new… even if it’s the water

slide.

You’ll connect with people in a different

way. And you’ll want to go back next year.

I am pleased to introduce you to Hunter

Lewis, our Consulting Intern. Besides being

an excellent student, Hunter brings to us

experience in GPS and GIS Mapping,

Microsoft Office, and Windows 7/8/10. He

also has a high mechanical aptitude, quite

a bit of common sense, and a love of the

outdoors. Oh, did I say he was a pretty

good writer, too? Here’s Hunter in his own

words. —Vic

My name is Hunter Lewis, I am 23 years

old, and am currently an intern for Hemard

and Company. I am a senior at Texas A&M

University at Texarkana, and I will be

graduating in May of 2017.

Prior to attending TAMU-T, I attended

Ouachita Baptist University, where I pitched

for the OBU Tigers. Due to a torn labrum, I

chose to continue my college education

closer to home. Home being Fouke

Arkansas.

If you have never heard of Fouke, do not

feel bad; not many people have. I

graduated high school with a whopping

class number of 56 people. The town itself

has a total population of 812. You may

have seen the town of Fouke on Monster

Quest, or various other monster hunting

shows.

Growing up in such a small town helped

mold me into the avid outdoorsman that I

am today. When not in class or working,

you can find me in the woods or on the

water. During the months of October

through February, I’ll be in the woods with

my Bowtech, or in the duck blind with

family and friends.

When the hunting gets slow, I pick up the

crappie rods. Yes, I said crappie rods.

Many people find it interesting that

someone of my age prefers crappie

fishing over bass fishing. Bass fishermen

practice catch and release, and tend to

frown upon me for my style of “catch and

release.” When a bass fisherman catches

a fish, he or she normally releases the fish

back into the water. I prefer to catch a

fish, and release it into hot grease. They

tend to taste better that way.

PS, I’m the one in the glasses!

Made To Stick by Chip Heath and Dan

Heath. This started out as a good book

explaining how certain ideas stick and

others never take hold. Along the way,

however, the authors began to talk about

how great Bill Clinton was. It was then I

decided if their thinking is that flawed,

there’s no point in continuing on with the

book. I guess it depends on what the

meaning of the word is is. Right?

The Charge by Brendon Burchard. I was

about a third of the way through this book

when Burchard started talking about the

“wisdom of Jesse Jackson.” Really? A race

hustler who calls himself “Reverend” and

is anything but. Well, you just lost me

there. Another case of flawed thinking. I

Grandfather Mike Stout And Hunter Lewis

Page 4

Time Well Wasted: Labor Day

Meet Teresa Brown

Labor Day weekend was quite special this

year. We didn’t have big plans. We did,

however, have the opportunity to see my

son Brandon, wife Stephanie, and

granddaughter Clara in Dallas.

As usual, we made a donut stop before

leaving town. It’s become a habit whenever

we make a trip to Dallas. Brandon and

Stephanie still work out every day, so it’s

not a problem to have an occasional donut.

As I mentioned in the last issue, they are

expecting a baby boy in November. We are

all very blessed.

We watched the LSU-Wisconsin football

game that afternoon while we played with

Clara. Unfortunately, LSU lost 16-14. They

seemed to have righted the ship the next

week. We’ll see.

On Sunday, we went to Mass, lunch at

Zoe’s Greek, and then to Ikea to find a

play kitchen for Clara. Of

course, it had to be

assembled. It was quite a

project, but Brandon and

I got it done, even with a

little help from Clara. She

was so excited when she

saw the finished kitchen.

Clara played with us with

all the make-believe food

in the kitchen. In the

meantime, Nancy and

Stephanie were cooking

up a real meal. Clara then had a bubble

bath and on to bed. Then, it was back

home for us, thankful for a very fulfilling

visit to the Hemards in Dallas.

If you call the office, it’s most likely

Administrative Assistant Teresa Brown will

be taking calls on the phone. Teresa’s

experience has ranged from being a

Commercial

Teller at a

bank, to an

Office Manager

at a

government

facility, to a

Support

Supervisor at a

life insurance

company. Her

last position

was particularly impressive in the areas of

office management, marketing, and client

service. It prepared her well for her

position here. We believe her involvement

in the company will help us serve our

clients better. Here’s Teresa in her own

words. -Vic

Strategic and analytical with an eye for

detail. Although my skill set is vast, my

expertise is in management and production

control. My greatest accomplishment

revolves in Customer Relationship

Management programs and developing

these programs to match the needs of

businesses. The result is greater

efficiency and effectiveness for both the

consulting business and its clients.

Even though my education lies in Medical

Office Technology and Principles of

Banking, I seem to always find greater

pleasure being behind a computer and

learning its operation. I LOVE TO LEARN!

I feel it builds value to your character!

Once I start on a project I have to finish

the project. It will absolutely drive me

nuts until it is complete. You know when

you try to lay in bed at night and “WHAM”

you’re wide awake and think about how to

fix it or

make it

better…

YEAH, that

is me!

If there’s

something

brewing in

my head,

“the wheel

is always

turning,”

my mind will play out the process to the

end result. At that point I can put the plan

into action. I guess you could say I’m a

well thought out process type of gal.

If I don’t know something, I ask or find a

way to find the answer.

These are my favorite quotes:

“Try not to become a man of success but

rather try to become a man of value.”

Albert Einstein

“An educated man is one who can

entertain a new idea, entertain another

person and entertain himself.” Sydney

Wood

L-R (Back Row) Husband Brian, Brothers Ron, Don, Son Brent, (Front) Daughter Nicole, Dad, Mom

Brandon, Clara, and I Are Getting Ready For the LSU Game

Page 5

Time Well Wasted: Leo Victor Horansky

I’m in bed. My cell phone rings on the night

stand. I look at the clock. It’s 3:38 AM on

the morning of August 26. Okay.

I pick up the phone and see Kristin on the

caller ID. She could only be calling for one

thing. I put the phone on speaker so Nancy

can hear.

“Hey Daddy, my water broke and we’re

heading for the hospital,” Kristin calmly

explains. She sounds good, but I can sense

an undercurrent of excitement. We don’t

keep her on the phone long. We know she

has to go. We tell her we love her and to let

us know how things are going.

Kristin is two weeks early, but there is no

doubt Leo is full term. He is a big baby for

a woman who is only 5 foot 2. She is happy

this day is here.

Kristin lives in the Cleveland area, so it’s

4:38 AM Eastern. By 9:42 AM, Leo Victor

Horansky is born. He weighs in at 8 lb 13

oz and is 20 inches long. Kristin is

relieved and happy. So is her husband

Drew. Big sister Juliet has a little brother.

We’re happy and thankful for a healthy

grandson. It’s all good.

Prior to Leo’s birth, we had a conversation

with Kristin as to how we could best help

her after Leo was born. We decided it was

best to wait a

couple of

weeks before

traveling to

Cleveland.

With Drew on

leave for two

weeks and

the Horanskys available to help, we could

A Moment To Enjoy Leo While He Naps Grandson Leo At Birth

Leo And Big Sister Juliet At The Park Nancy Pacifies Leo While He Waits For Mom And The Real Thing

Leo At Two Months

help more by waiting two weeks and then

spending a week in Cleveland,

We stuck with that plan and it worked out

by all accounts. We’ll be back in

November, at which time Leo will be

baptized a Catholic.

He is a sweet baby. As the second child,

everyone knew more as to what to expect.

Not just because Kristin is a pediatrician

but because there were no expectations of

everything being perfect.

There’s always a little chaos in the house

when a new baby arrives. We try to help

any way we can. We embrace the chaos

and are blessed to be a part of it as

grandparents.

Welcome, Leo!

Page 6

Time Well Wasted: Clara’s Birthday In Dallas

In October, our granddaughter Clara had

her second birthday party in Dallas. I have

to say, it was quite an event. There were

toddlers, babies, and expectant mothers all

over the place. I wouldn’t have missed it for

the world.

Brandon and Stephanie decided on “Ugga

Mugga - Clara is Two-rrrific!” as the theme

of the party.

For those who do not have a pre-school

child in the house, Daniel Tiger is the star

of a TV show on PBS entitled, Daniel Tiger’s

Neighborhood. It’s based on the

Neighborhood of Make-Believe from the

old series, Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood.

Ugga Mugga is a phrase used by Daniel

Tiger, indicating a rubbing of noses

between Daniel and his immediate family.

It’s very much the same as a kiss. It’s a

bedtime ritual before Daniel retires for the

night.

Clara simply thinks Daniel Tiger is the

best. When she goes to sleep for the

night, Brandon and Stephanie say prayers

with Clara. They give thanks for all the

gifts of the day and the people in their

lives. Then, there are the kisses goodnight

and then the Ugga Muggas, or rubbing of

noses, just like Daniel. Then it’s off to

those sweet toddler dreams.

There were plenty of chicken nuggets

from Chick-Fil-A, chips, cupcakes, and a

variety of other foods and drinks.

There were also some games, including a

large piñata of Daniel Tiger. The biggest hit

was the trolley. It was built by Brandon

using a wagon we’ve had since 1985.

Pulling the trolley with two or three kids

can be tough on the last hill.

Before the party, we had lunch with the

other side of Clara’s family, the Bernhards.

We enjoy their company because we have

much in common. We share family values,

religion, and, of course, our love and

appreciation for Brandon, Stephanie, and

Clara.

I think the party went very well. There was

always something exciting going on with

all the children there. That’s part of the

magic of a kids’ party.

Well done, Brandon and Stephanie!

Brandon, Clara (Daniel Tiger), and Stephanie Nancy, Clara, And Me

Daniel Tiger (Clara), Complete With

Red Hoodie, Ears, And Tail

Brandon, Clara, and Stephanie With The Bernhards

Page 7

The Last Time

The Last Time

From the moment you hold your baby in

your arms,

You will never be the same.

You might long for the person you were

before,

When you had freedom and time,

And nothing in particular to worry about.

You will know tiredness like you never

knew it before,

And days will run into days that are exactly

the same,

Full of feeding and burping,

Nappy changes and crying,

Whining and fighting,

Naps or lack of naps.

It might seem like a never-ending cycle.

But don't forget...

There is a last time for everything.

There will come a time when you will feed

your baby

for the very last time.

They will fall asleep on you after a long day

And it will be the last time you ever hold

your sleeping child.

One day you will carry them on your hip,

then set them down,

And never pick them up that way again.

You will scrub their hair in the bath one

night

And from that day on they will want to

bathe alone.

They will hold your hand to cross the road,

Then never reach for it again.

They will creep into your room at midnight

for cuddles,

And it will be the last night you ever wake

to this.

One afternoon you will sing “the wheels

on the bus”

and do all the actions,

Then never sing them that song again.

They will kiss you goodbye at the school

gate,

The next day they will ask to walk to the

gate alone.

You will read a final bedtime story and

wipe your

last dirty face.

They will one day run to you with arms

raised,

for the very last time.

The thing is, you won’t even know it’s the

last time

Until there are no more times, and even

then,

It will take you a while to realize.

So, while you are living in these times,

remember there are only so many of

them and

when they are gone,

you will yearn for just one more day of

them.

For one last time.

Author unknown

Well. I don’t know about you, but I had a

hard time getting through that one. It is so

true.

There’s a message… a message to all

parents with young children. A message to

my children. One day you will yearn for the

times when your children were very young

and depended on you so much.

I know. As a parent, some days you’re

dead tired and your baby needs you. You

keep going. You press on. You find that

last bit of energy. I promise you, it will pay

off. It will make you stronger. Your child

will grow up closer to you. Your child will

be a good parent to your grandchildren.

And many years later there’s our situation.

Nancy and I have taken our role as empty

nesters in stride… even embraced and

celebrated it at times. There is still a

yearning on occasion to go back to the

days when our kids were pre-school age.

Guess what? If you are blessed with

grandchildren, as we are, you can get

involved and get back to those days

again. If you’re lucky, you get to keep your

grandchildren or help your children with

the child rearing when you visit them.

Maybe you’re keeping your grandchildren

for an evening or a weekend or a week.

You’ll get tired a lot faster than you did

when you were in your 20s and 30s. You

know what to do. Press on. Fight through

the fatigue and exhaustion. Live it.

Embrace it. You never know when it’s the

last time.

Your grandchildren will be closer to you.

You’ll feel good about yourself. And…

you’ll show your children how to be

grandparents to your great-grandchildren.

I’m thankful for these chances we have to

nurture our grandchildren. To get dead

tired. To struggle with the routine. To do

our very best, despite the fatigue.

There’s a lot of upside, too. There are

times when your grandson or

granddaughter will grab your hand for

help. Hug your neck. Tell you, “I love you.”

Run to you full speed with arms

outstretched, waiting to be swept up by

you.

You don’t want to miss those times, my

friend. As the poem says, you never know

when it’s the last time.

been the purpose of Obamacare

from the beginning. It’s designed

not to work.

As Michael Cannon mentioned

earlier, United Healthcare, Aetna,

and numerous others are

bombing out, left and right.

Sadly, it was pure cronyism

driving many of these hospital

and insurance CEOs to go along

with Obamacare to gain favor

with Obama. They also figured if

the law required everyone to

have insurance, they would

benefit.

Back in the 2008 presidential

campaign, Obama said his real

objective was a single payer

Back in 2010, when those of

us took time to study

Obamacare, we knew there

was no way it was going to

work. It couldn’t possibly work.

We correctly suspected the

goal of Obamacare was to

wipe out the private sector

insurance market. When the

insurance market is in

shambles and you’re required

by law to have health

insurance, it only leaves one

place to go.

Where’s that? Why it’s the

federal government. That’s

(Continued from page 1)

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2016

system (government-run health

care). He also said the American

people weren’t ready for it… and

it would take 10, maybe 15 years

to get there. It couldn’t be done

overnight.

Given that, Obama has laid out a

strategy whereby the people

would actually demand it.

Obamacare was designed to

implode on itself, as it is doing

now. Now they’re expecting us to

cry out for government to fix it.

Isn’t it curious? Every time the

government gets involved in

something and messes it up, we

are expected to blindly believe

government will fix it.

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wouldn’t recommend this one,

either.

The Compound Effect by

Darren Hardy. This book is

based on a simple principle.

Decisions you make now are

(Continued from page 3) magnified as you go through life.

Decisions you made earlier in life

are magnified now. Hardy shows

how it’s never too late to start

making good decisions and

developing positive habits to help

you be successful in business and

in personal relationships.

Spy Secrets That Can Save Your

Life by Jason Hanson. I really

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just tell you how to protect

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Of Gorillas and Babies

snoring, anyway.

In any case, there were large

numbers of people who saw the

video of the gorilla dragging the

boy and worried more about the

gorilla than the boy. They will

“miss” a zoo animal they didn’t

even know existed until he was

humanely dispatched to save

the boy.

At the same time, in fact, every

day, 125,000 abortions will

take place. None of these

children will be given a name.

There are no headlines, no

candlelight ceremonies.

Nothing.

(Continued from page 2) A common method, called

Dilation and Evacuation (D&E), is

anything but humane. The

abortionist forces open the

mother’s cervix with a metal

device. He then inserts a suction

tube to remove the amniotic

fluid.

At this point, he takes a sharp

pair of forceps and begins to

tear the baby apart. First the

legs. Then the arms. Then the

rest of the body. The skull is then

crushed and child’s brain seeps

out of the mother.

The mother is then cleaned up,

handed a bill, and escorted to a

discreet exit in the building.

I’m sorry. I know this is difficult

to read. It’s the raw truth.

Those people who proudly say

they believe in a “woman’s right

to choose” should think about

what that really means. That’s

right. Think about it. Do you really

think you’re on the right side of

this?

If you’re one of those “pro-lifers”

like me, you can’t understand

why people are indifferent about

abortion. Some of those people

who protested killing a gorilla

think nothing of all the dead

human bodies in medical waste

containers around the country.

If I had to choose between a

gorilla and a baby (born or

unborn), a gorilla and a child, a

gorilla and a person of any age...

the gorilla’s going down. Every

time.