CHRIS THOMAS Lisa Harrison Interview 2012

8/11/2019 CHRIS THOMAS Lisa Harrison Interview 2012

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Hey Flash! Actually, I think Simon said both things, that ifthey build

the new CERN ( the frst one didn't accomplish its purpose, to

allow the negative ETs trapped on Earth to escape), its

operation certainly would be bad or the Earth, but its purpose

would be to allow the negative ETs to leave the planet! There's

a window deadline or the new one though, and it loo"s

unli"ely they will be able to fnish building it in time to meet

the date! #resumably then, the ETs will die, as they cannot

withstand the new re$uencies here!

I hope I don't have to go back and read all of that %imon #ar"es

thread again too! ( I onder hat Simon and ames "illiland ill say

about #$'s statements that the &antids and ion #eople don'tregister on the "ashic as living beings %

From&http&proectavalon)netforum*sho)))s+$homaspage

#hris& -Sure) .kay) $he /elon are a semi+physical race) $hey originate

in a "ala0y 1 if you look up at the night sky, the "ala0y is behind the

constellation of Sagittarius, but about 23 "ala0ies beyond the

constellation) Although, the /elon have access to several "ala0ies, like

the other semi+physical races do, they intended to stick to their on

Solar System)

4o, their %olar %ystem has two %uns * it+s a binary system *

and, eight planets) $hree orbit around one Sun, four orbit around

another, and the 3th planet orbits both Suns) I am trying to think of the


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names of the planets5 $here6s a 7arduk, there6s a $iamat, and a

4ibiru) Nibiru is also called nu, by the people that live on it!

Soin the alse annals that the nnuna"i created or our solar

system, they said that there as a -ar8 beteen the planets of

$iamat and and 7arduk, and the asteroid belt and our 7oon is the

result, if I recall rightly) According to #hris, it as actually the e0plosion

of 9 planets from our solar system that created the damage

responsible for the asteroid belt and our 7oon, hoever) :as there

actually a -ar8 of the planets $iamat and 7arduk in the /elon

system;


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destructive) So, in other ords, everything we do to build

something involves the destruction o something else! >ven,

doing something supposedly simple like taking oil out of the ground,

uses a massive amount of energy in order to do so, creates massive

pollution, and then reuires massive more amounts of energy to re=ne

that oil into something e can use). you loo" at the semi/physical

races, what they do is wor" with what is available on their

planet) So, if you ant to build a Bying saucer, for e0ample, they don6t

mine material in the ay that e ould) :hat they do isthey wor"

on very psychic levels! nd so, what they do is create a psychic

template or the shape o the crat they want to build)

And they use living plants to gro that shell) So, in other ords, the

plant gros C e0pands itself around the psychic template that6s been

built) So, its like an organic metal, almost) So, that6s the kind of

technological level that the semi+physical races ork at, hich is on a

very natural level 1 they only use hatever is available ithin their

environment) $hey don6t actually destroy anything)

And if you look atthe propulsion systems that all the semi+physicalraces use for their craft, they use the natural 0u1 o

electromagnetic energies that actually hold this 2niverse

together! I mean, forget about gravity) "ravity doesn6t e0ist) 3hat

we have is a conscious 2niverse that+s held together by

electromagnetic orces! %o they use those electromagnetic

orces as a means o propulsion! %o, in other words, they are

not ta"ing rom anything, they+re not destroying anything on

their planet, they+re not creating any pollution anywhere!

They+re using what is naturally available!

And the same, more or less, applies to the /elon) $he /elon technology

is based on that level, as ell) For e0ample, these 4&e+ computer


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discs are actually made rom something li"e yeast! Again, that6s

the nearest I can come to in terms to hat e have available on >arth)

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Henrik& .t+s a biological technology!

#hris& -Des, it6s a biological memory system, yes, that6s a good ay of

putting it) So, they put the ingredients5 hatever their euivalent to

yeast ould be put into a mold, and they psychically program that

mold) So, as that mold gros into the shape of the disc, it takes on the

imprint of hatever its been programmed to do) So again, its very

natural technology) Although, the5 /elons on their home planets do

mine for minerals C ra materials) Eut, again, they don6t destroy the

planet)8

#hris says above that the /elon are semi+physical and that they do not

destroy their planets , but then he contradicts himself and says the

/elon have used up everything on their planets) ))));;;

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@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@#hris says that most of the souls of the humans on earth are actually

non+physical beings ho came here millions of years ago) Det there

seem to be souls here at all di?erent levels of intelligence, e0perience,

sophistication, adaptability, -soul age8, etc) 3hy is that 3hat

about autistic people, people with 5owns %yndrome, etc! re

those conditions a result o "arma 6r are those semi/physical

souls who came here later and so have had a harder time

learning how to be more ully operational in physical bodies

:ill the individual souls ho ere once part of a uni=ed soul, that

became -soul groups8 eventually reintegrate back into one uni=ed

soul; I think #hris spoke of group souls somehere, but the idea I am


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aare of that the individual souls regroup again is from -$he 7ichael

$eachings8, if #hris is not aare of that systemthere is lots of info

about it online)%

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#hris&->?ectively,they destroyed most o the lie on all the other

planets! Earth managed to survive, and what she did was to

adopt part o one o the planets as the moon, because we

didn+t have a moon prior to this e1plosion occurring! %o the

moon is there because the Earth wanted7 well, .+m not

entirely certain what she wanted7 so the moon is sitting

there, and having in0uence on Earth 8 the Earth is in0uencing

the moon, and all the rest o it!9

:hy ere the to planets hich ble themselves up so unconcerned

about the damage they ould do to the rest of the planets;


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leave++ I don't think Simon said that, and I should have clari=ed that)

Apologies)

I didn't mean that it ould be a good thing to keep the ormhole open,

ust good for the >$s to leave)

Eut I think I do remember pretty clearly that he said the =rst #>J4

didn't do the ob)

So they have started construction on a ne one, and there is a narro

indo of opportunity for that one to ork, so it follos that the ne

facility may not even be built in time to be of use)If that happens, presumably they are stuck here for a long hile,

though if that's true, I suppose e don't kno if they ill be able to

ithstand the ne, higher freuencies on >arth)

I ould imagine they could create some technology that ould allo

for that, but apparently they are an0ious to leave at this point, and

certainly elcome to leave, too, from our perspective!!

$hat info may have been in one of the video intervies and not

transcribed or uoted or ritten here by Simon, so the search engine

ouldn't ork in that case)

$hanks Flash, you are one of the good ones too)

As to trusting anything anyone has ritten here, you kno very ell by

no, I'm sure, that you have to use your on discernment)
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:e can only speculate about this kind of information)

7aybe e are ust going to have to learn to read the Akashic Jecords

ourselves)

4o, that ould really be interesting!

http&proectavalon)netforum*shothread)php;K33LK+An+pdate+.n+

.ur+>volution+by+#hris+$homaspage3

A uestion has arisen from, to me, an unknon source through a

discussion forum) $he uestion is about the di?erence beteen the

energies of the M*th Faction, this niverse and the /elon)

It is a fundamental uestion hich I am surprised has not been asked

before) Jeally, I could rite a ne book to anser this uestion but

there is not enough time available for that to happen so it is a matter

of ansering the uestion in an essay format)

$he uestion as this&

N>S$I.4& I6m trying to clarify an understanding I have of -energies8

of the universe)

I understand from #$6s books that our universe as created ith the

idea of hat ould happen if everyone had free ill ith the rule of not

being able to take aay free ill from others) If everything is energy,

then our universe, along ith everything in it ould be created ithin

the energy of free ill) $he action of acting against free ill ould not

be possible because it6s not part of the -energy8) $he M*$H Faction

arrived ultimately -infecting8 our universe ith the ability to take aay

free ill)

4o, #$ states that the portal the M*$H Faction created is no closed

as of 9OO9, so no one can dra on these energies any longer) Hoever,
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I assume that those energies still e0ist) In the books that I have read,

#$ does not state these energies infecting the /elon) I tend to think

they have, since they are e?ectively taking aay our free ill)

. we generate enough o the ree will energies as a mass

consciousness, then, will it be possible to reduce those with

the :inected energies .s this what those mass meditations

are aiming at .s "eeping humanity in con0ict the :ood or

these negative energies, which is what is "eeping this cycle

going

Easically, I6m trying to make a correlation ith the energies of the M*th

Faction brought in and to comments from folks like Icke ho state that

the entities controlling the .lluminati promote con0ict, so they

can :eed o= the negative energies humans give o=!

. the portal is gone, then we become the main source o ood

or those remaining with the :inected >?th @action energies!

. believe it is un"nown i all >?th @action entities wereremoved!

A4S:>J& $his is a comple0 uestion hich gets to the heart of the

purpose and function of our niverse and our current state of

development as individual souls) $he answer also involves the

comple1ities o time, and how it is measured in di=erent parts

o our 2niverse, and how time relates to the Earth!

6ur 2niverse was Created >?,AB,DB,AA years

ago (as o DF>D)! That is, the number o :human

years ago! .n di=erent regions o the 2niverse, time is


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measured in di=erent ways and this will become

relevant later!

6urs is the frst 2niverse ever Created and was constructedaround the energy patterns o 'reedom o choice') In other

ords, every soul that has been #reated to e0ist ithin this niverse

has absolute freedom of choice over their actions) $he only -limiting

factor8 is that no soul can act in such a ay as to remove the freedom

of choice of another) $hat -niversal Pa8 is absolute and inviolate)

Hoever, other universes have been #reated since ours) In all, telve

universes e0ist at the present time ith the apparent intention of there

being thirteen in total) I am not trying to speak on behalf of the

#reator, ust e0trapolating information from the Akashic)

.n overall terms, these other universes have no relationship

with oursG they are not :multiverses in a $uantum physics

sense but totally independent energy :envelopes that are

imbued with energy patterns and characteristics that the

Creator wishes to e1plore!

The second universe to be Created e1plores the e1act opposite

o ours! .n other wordsH what i every soul within that universe

had the ability to remove reedom o choice This second

universe was not very successul! The energy patterns rom

which it was constructed generated chaosG so much so that it

only lasted about >I million (human) years beore it began a

process o decline and collapse! This second universe does still

e1ist but is very close to annihilation and most o its

inhabitants have returned to source (the Creator)!


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All of the souls that ere #reated for this second universe ere of a

-semi+physical8 nature) $his means that they had a physical form and

physical density and their souls ere integral to their bodies) In other

ords, their souls did not detach from their bodies but ere e?ectively

immortal in their embodied form) Their length o lie e1pectancy

was, e=ectively, as long as the lie o their universe!

"iven the chaotic state of their universe, the inhabitants tended to

form alliances and collect together in groups ith a common cause

(Factions%) sually this cause as the storage of energy to hich they

had many uses but, primarily, the reason seems to be purely depriving

other Factions the use of that energy) Jiven the underlying

energies o this second universe / the removal o reedom o

choice / the @actions tended to become controlled by one

individualG someone who was more aggressive than others!

This aggressive individual would then orce the other members

o the @action into becoming :drones / a situation not unli"e

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Those who lived within this second universe realised that the

decline and collapse had begun and they attempted to gather

together any and all energies to try to maintain their position

within their universe! Even with the pressures and urgency o

their universal collapse, they did not fght warsG there was no

history o violence between the various @actions! -owever, one

o the @actions realised that another universe e1isted and in

an attempt to gather as much energy as possible, they

constructed what our scientists would call a :wormhole!

$he scienti=c de=nition of a orm hole isan energy :tube that is

constructed rom two blac" holes positioned bac" to bac"! This

worm hole connected the second universe to ours with this

connection ta"ing place appro1imately A! million (human)

years ago!

The beings that entered our 2niverse, the "ashic calls the

:>?th @action!$here appears to be to reasons for this name&

=rstly, that as the name they gave to themselves ithin their on

universe and secondly, our 2niverse contains thirteen races so to


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mark their di?erence, our niverse also numbered them -M*8)

$he M*th Faction ere a semi+physical race) $his means that they

would be invisible to normal human senses! The semi/physical

races are constructed rom energy patterns that humans can

only perceive on a psychic level! .n appearance they were

about Im or >I oot tall and humanoid in orm!$heir skin as

reddish green in colour and very smooth and they ere androgynous)

$he only -markings8 they had ere a pronounced bony ridge that

e0tended from the top of their nose and across the top of the skull)

$heir eyes ere yello ith vertical irises) 6verall, a very reptilian/

li"e appearance)

Their purpose in brea"ing into our 2niverse was to collect

energy and transport it bac" to their own universe to maintain

their position within a universe that was in the early stages o

collapse! Jiven their history o energy gathering and stoc"/

piling in their own universe, they had developed technology to

achieve these aims and this technology they brought withthem into our 2niverse!

:hat is meant by -energy8 is a little diQcult to describe given

scienti=c lack of understanding) >nergy underlies, and is the basic

building block, of everything that e0ists) $his is ell described by

>instein6s $heory of Jelativity&

E L m cD

:hat this euation means is that&

> stands for energy

m stands for matter

c stands for the speed of light


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.r& The amount o energy that is contained within solid matter

is calculated by multiplying the mass o a substance by the

speed o light s$uared!$o give an e0ample&

:ater contains to atoms of hydrogen combined ith one atom of

o0ygen) $o calculate ho much energy ould be released from the

hydrogen contained ithin one litre of pure ater (hydrogen bomb%,

the calculation ould be&

>Rmc9

>R O)MMM 0 2OO,OOO,OOO 0 2OO,OOO,OOO

>R MO,OOO,OOO,OOO,OOO,OOO oules

:ater contains MMM grams of hydrogen or O)MMM kilograms and the

speed o light has been measured at AFF million metres

per second within our solar system!

Another ay of looking at energy and matter is that the speed atwhich light travels determines the density o solid matter! As

the alchemist Mohn 5ee put it in the >th CenturyH

:ny substance can be created by re0ecting light at

the correct angle!

All of this comes don to the fact that everything that e0ists is

constructed of energy hich means that the M*th Faction found a

hole universe full, hen they broke into our niverse) $he ay inhich they ent about gathering this energy and transporting it back

to their universe is not something I can describe, as we do not have

the vocabulary to describe the "ind o technology they used!

-owever, there is one device they used hich has become ell

knon, and that is a -black hole8)


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Elack Hole by Allain via :ikimedia #ommons

Eefore the arrival of the M*th Faction, black holes did not e0ist in this

niverse) blac" hole is a region o e1tremely dense energies

that bend space and time so much that it draws energy into

itsel! The blac" hole connects one region o space to another,

but in one direction only! Elack holes can be likened to a drinking

stra) If you put a stra into a liuid and then dra the air out of the

stra, the liuid rises up the stra and, usually, into your mouth) Elack

holes ork in very similar ays e0cept they were specifcally

designed to draw energy rom the region o space around its

entrance and deliver that energy to a specifc region where the

>?th @action could :harvest it! The energy could travel in only

one direction, it could not return down the blac" hole :straw

to where it was collected!


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collected bac" out through the collection end! &any blac"

holes have also been observed to collapse!

$he M*th Faction did not operate their energy -stripping8 devices

anyhere near to >arth but did considerable damage to other

areas o our 2niverse) So much damage was caused that it was

a closely argued decision between allowing our 2niverse to

continue in e1istence or to collapse it!

5ealing with the >?th @action was immensely dicult! 3e live

in a 2niverse where the removal o reedom o choice is not

allowed and so dealing with beings who brought with them

energy patterns that were designed to remove reedom o

choice proved almost impossible!

The Thirteen beings who maintain the balance o energies

within this 2niverse took a great deal of time to =nd a means of

overcoming the M*6s energy patterns 1 e=ectively, they had to

create undamentally new energy patterns rom re$uenciesthat did not e1ist originally in this 2niverse!In the end, the >arth

played a crucial role in overcoming the M*th Faction ith their eviction

from this niverse =nally happening in DFFD (human time)!

$his is here time becomes very confusing) The destruction o the

>? energies too" place in DFFD on Earth but D!I million years

ago in the region o the 2niverse most a=ected by the >?! @or

a more detailed e1planation o how time varies in di=erent

parts o the 2niverse, see my previous essay entitled :Time/

ines!

4eedless to say, time is also an energy and the range of freuencies of


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energy that e0ist ithin the niverse vary considerably certainly to a

far greater e0tent than e, humans, can currently comprehend) $his is

not a failing on our part e ust need the rest of the soul in the body

to be able to grasp the full range of knoledge that is currently not

available to us) $he most important aspect of the M*th Faction is that a

ay as found to destroy the energy patterns they brought ith them

and the reptilian beings that entered our niverse ere all evicted) For

more details of the M*th Faction see lanet >arth 1 $he niverse6s

>0periment and $he niversal Soul)

Hoever, the M*th Faction did have an impact on life on >arth) 3hen

the >?+s worm hole burst into our 2niverse, AA,FFF

souls rom the si1 non/ physical races were caught in

the blast! This means that they became contaminated

with energy patterns rom the >?+s universe * the

ability to remove reedom o choice!The "ashic does

not record e1actly what happened to these AA,FFF! The

personal e1perience o each individual soul is recorded withintheir 5N and these e1periences are not ully downloaded into

the "ashic until those individuals decide to return to the

Creator and leave this 2niverse! The activities o some people

can be trac"ed through the "ashic but only because o the

events those individuals cause to happen!

Hoever, the >? energy patterns can be trac"ed, to a certain

e1tent, and so there is some inormation available about the

movements and activities o these AA,FFF!

Again, the strangeness of time plays a part in their story) $he =rst thing

to remember is that althoughthese AA,FFF were contaminated


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with >? energies, the choice o whether they made use o

those energies was entirely that o the individual! In all,

something li"e DI,FFF o these souls reKected the >? energies

and returned themselves bac" to the normal energy patterns

o this 2niverse! This meant that about O,FFF souls made a

choice to ma"e use o these energies that allowed them to

remove reedom o choice! .nitially, these O,FFF attempted to

use the >? re$uencies to fght against the activities o the

>?th @action but, ater a while, they were deeated and orced

to wor" or the >?! t varying times, each one o these O,FFF

continued on their Kourney and came to Earth ta"ing on human

orm!

It must be remembered though that they were not reptilian in

orm! They were not reptiles hiding under a human s"in! 3hat

did mar" them out as di=erent were the changed energy

patterns they brought with them and it was these energy

patterns that, rom a psychic point o view, gave them a

:eeling, and perhaps a :shadow, o being reptilian!


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The frst o these contaminated souls to arrive on Earth did so

around AAF


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civiliQed &uslim world, thereby causing fve centuries o

warare and the death o millions

S.J#>

It is important to remember this fact& each o those who were

contaminated with >?th @action energies usually acted as

individuals! They did not create organisations, such as the

.lluminati, as they did not want to share their power with

others! They all wor"ed by themselves and used their ability to

remove reedom o choice to bring power and wealth to

themselvesG the idea o sharing that power did not ft in with

the >?th @action+s energies!

Jemember, the inhabitants of the M*6s universe formed themselves

into Factions ith one very dominant leader in order to gather to their

faction as much energy as possible an inherently sel=sh viepoint)

:hen translated into >arth culture, those ho ere contaminated ith

M* energies also acted in very sel=sh ays) The contaminating

energies made it impossible or them to share their power!

$he M*th Faction e0isted ithin our niverse for ust over M million

years) $hese are human years) 6ur solar system is

constructed rom energy re$uencies that are

compacted down to the point where they orm what

we describe as :physical matter! These energy

patterns are so condensed that we perceive time,

light and matter in ways that are very di=erent to the

other regions o the 2niverse! 6ne million years to us

will appear to be one year or one second in other


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regions o the 2niverse where di=erent combinations

o time, light and matter create other realities and

other perceptions!

The >?th @action was removed rom this 2niverse about D!I

million human years ago and all o their technology was

destroyed at the same time! To the semi/physical races, this

time period appears to be a matter o wee"s whilst to the non/

physical races it can appear to be li"e the blin" o an eye! Time

is strange stu=, certainly as ar as humans are concerned!

Jegardless of the huge range of time+scales involved, the M*th Faction

have been removed from the niverse and all o their energy

patterns have been removed with them! The last time that the

>?th @actions energies were made use o on Earth was in DFFDG

ten years ago! %ince then, those who were used to wielding

power by removing the choice o others have ound that they

can no longer orce people to ta"e actions against their own

choice!

$he M*th Faction energies no longer e0ist)

Human life, for the past ,OOO years, has been lived here our ability

to choose our actions has alays been intact) Pooking back through

human history, it might appear as though there have been many

occasions here our freedom of choice has been removed but this is

not necessarily because of individuals making use of the M* energies

they ere contaminated ith)

Human lives have been lived hilst e0ploring the possibilities available


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under $he Human lan) $hese lifetimes have been lived under the

direction of the higher self and the events that have occurred in each

lifetime have been planned by the higher self to gain the ma0imum

e0perience of living a human lifetime on >arth)%ometimes the plans

o the higher sel have placed us in situations where a choice

has to be madeH do we stand up to the bully 6r do we give in

to what they tell us to do ?+s wormhole did ma"e use o the ability to

remove reedom o choice, they were not necessarily

responsible or many o the ine$uities that many people

e1perienced during their lietimes! These ine$uities came

about by people ma"ing a choice and, in many instances that

choice was to not ma"e a choice but to do what someone elsetold them to do!

.rganisations, like the Illuminati, did not make use of M* energies 1

there is nothing ithin the Akashic to support that vie the Illuminati

do not have a M* energy signature 1the .lluminati and the other

organisations they control, have been ormed by a di=erent

energy pattern!

$he /elon

6ur 2niverse is peopled by many, many trillions o souls! These

are the ree/acting and ree/moving souls and not the souls


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who ma"e up gala1ies, solar systems or planets!

$hese free+moving souls divide into to groups&

$here are si0 -non+physical8 races)

$hese are souls that e1ist as pure soul energyG in orm they are

humanoid but they have no physical density! These si1 races

e1ist everywhere throughout this 2niverse and it is souls rom

these si1 non/physical races who ma"e up ! per cent o the

souls who have ta"en on human orm on Earth! 3e do not have

names or these si1 races! They are totally invisible to us, even

psychically, and their energy patterns are so ar above ours

that we cannot communicate with them, not even by

channelled means! 3e can only psychically communicate with

these souls when they in our solar system as they have

reduced and condensed their natural energies in order to

become human!

$here are also seven -semi+physical8 races)

$hese souls e0ist as physical beings but their bodies are considerably

less dense than ours) $heir natural state is ith the hole of the soulithin the body and their bodies e0ist for the length of time that their

soul e0ists) In other ords,they do not :die in the sense that

humans die but can e1ist or many millions o years in one

body!

The seven races are these (they are not named in any

particular order)H

Crystalline, Jreys,


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from a -soul storage8 1 this reuires a very comple0 e0planation hich

e have no room for here)

Pery oten when a new planet is colonised, those who have

colonised the planet will not use their soul origin name but will

ta"e on the name they use or that planet!

For e0ample&

:hen these beings have had channelled contact ith people on >arth,

they might have stated that they originate from the planet Tog) $his

statement ill be true, they are Togliths, but their soul origin could

be %irian and this has led to a great deal o conusion on Earth

as to who is who and where do they originate! This is why .

have always tried to stay with soul origins when describing

these races and their activities * to avoid conusion!

All of these M2 races have had contact and interaction ith the >arth in

one form or another over the history of the >arth) $he Sirians,

leiadeans, 4"# K3*, "reys and Elues have been visiting >arth, using

ships, for up to millions of years and their purpose has beenoverhelmingly helpful and peaceful) Eut, one semi+physical race has

had other ideas and these are the /elon)

I am not going to give a detailed description and back+story to /elon

history as this has been covered by several of my books particularly

$he Human Soul, roect Human >0tinction and $he Annunaki lan; or

$he Human lan; Hoever, since the /elon began to inBuence

activities on >arth, members of several of the semi+physical races have

been investigating /elon history and /elon activities to try to get to the

bottom of hat brought the /elon to >arth and hy they have acted in

ays hich have attempted to remove freedom of choice) $his more

comprehensive history is no included ithin the Akashic)


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$he /elon solar system e0ists is a gala0y that is tenty three gala0ies

distant from ours) It lies in a direction that is behind the constellation of

Sagittarius in our night sky) $he solar system is a binary system in that

it has to suns 1 one sun is a -red giant8 and the other is a -bron

darf8) $he description of both suns ould indicate that they are in the

process of decline and decay) In most solar systems, the sun is the

primary consciousness but in the case of the /elon system, the primary

consciousness is the main planet hich is called /elus) Also unusually

is the presence of a second primary consciousness hich is the red

giant sun)

In other ords, there is a dominant consciousness that forms the

primary planet and the hole solar system, /elus, and a secondary

consciousness that makes up one of the suns 1 e?ectively /elus M and

/elus 9) $he solar system contains eight planets and a number of

moons) $hree planets orbit the bron darf sun and four planets orbit

around the red giant sun) $he eighth planet orbits both suns) $hree of

the planets are inhabited the primary planet /elus, one planet called$iamat and the planet that orbits both suns called 4ibiru) A fourth

planet, called 7arduk, as also inhabited until one of 4ibiru6s moons

collided ith the planet causing the planet to become uninhabitable)

$he names of these planets ill be familiar to anyone ho has read the

Annunaki story that has been translated by Techaria Sitchin) Hoever,

you need to note that the story of these planets applies to the /elon

solar system and not to our solar system 1 see later)

$he /elon peoples have divided themselves into si0 di?erent -races8)

$his race division seems to be along the euivalent of -religious8 lines

in much the same ay as e on >arth could call ourselves 7oslem,


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eish or Euddhist etc, the /elon call themselves& undaa, .a, 7ila,

ohnaan, Annunaki and Hathor)

$he Annunaki live e0clusively on 4ibiru hilst the other races live in

-colonies8 spread out over the surfaces of both /elus and $iamat) $hey

are a technological and industrial race but have kept themselves very

much to themselves ithin their home gala0y) $hey have had very little

interaction ith the other races of our niverse as they seem to be

very insular and uninterested in hat occurs outside of their on

gala0y) $his is hy so little as knon about them before they decided

to make the move to our solar system)

$he /elus system as in a state of decline, the /elus consciousness

seems to have e?ectively given up on life and as sloly inding

don before returning to source) Hoever, one /elon ship left the

gala0y and encountered an energy Bo that as directed from the

niversal energies toards >arth) :hen the ship returned to /elus and

related the story of =nding the energy Bo, it caused a huge hiatus

that led the /elus M consciousness to believe that -he8 should follothe energy Bo as the energy as mistakenly believed to come from

-"od8 and the /elon peoples had obviously been specially chosen by

-"od8 to follo this energy)

Instead of being a solar system consciousness that as in decline,

/elus M appears to have taken on a religious+like fervour no believing

that -he8 had been chosen by "od and the /elon peoples must be

-"od6s chosen people8) "iven these ne revelations, /elus M

encouraged a form of religious schism ithin the si0 /elon races and all

si0 races began to vie themselves as -chosen8 and the race ho

could arrive at the end of the energy Bo =rst ould be the chosen of

both /elus M and "od) $his schism meant that they set about building


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bigger and faster ships than any of the other races to arrive at the end

of the energy Bo =rst)

If you contrast this ith human history, you ill see that on >arth e

declared ar on our religious rivals)

$he /elon, hoever, have no history of using eapons or of armed

conBict) It is important to remember this fact hen e go on to e0plain

/elon activities hen they arrived at our solar system) In other ords,

there ere no ars or battles fought, no -star ars8 or inter+galactic

ars, beteen the /elon and any other of the semi+physical races nor

did the /elon -attack8 >arth using ar+like eapons of any kind) It also

needs to be understood that no race ithin our niverse has ever

developed eapons nor have any ars taken place) It is only humans

ho have uniuely chosen to kill one another)

$he reports back from the semi+physical races investigations into /elon

activities also state very clearly that the /elon have had no contact

ith, nor did they use the energies of, the M*th Faction) $o reiterate&none of the si0 /elon races use any ar+like eapons, they have not

fought in any ars and they do not have access to the energies of the

M*th Faction)

/elus M as the =rst to arrive at our solar system 1 -he8 had left his

on solar system to be cared for by /elus 9 hilst the /elon races

developed ships poerful enough to travel to our solar system) He

arrived about M,OOO human years ago) $he =rst action taken by /elus M

as to attempt to displace the >arth6s consciousness) $his attempt as

repulsed by the >arth6s consciousness and by the >arth6s guardians)

It appears as though /elus M intended to be in charge of the >arth, and


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the hole solar system, by the time the /elon peoples arrived here)

:ith /elus M reected by the >arth, -he8 leaves the solar system and

travels to other regions of the niverse)

$he =rst of the /elon ships to arrive at our solar system did so about

9OO human years ago) Although the /elon -armada8 as folloing the

energy Bo from the niverse, they sent o? numerous ships to make

contact ith the other semi+physical races) In this ay, they developed

a uite detailed knoledge of the other races and their technologies)

:hen the /elon ships began to arrive, the >arth and the >arth6s

guardians ould not allo them access to the solar system) :ith their

access denied, each of the /elon races set about observing life on

>arth and each began to form a strategy for overcoming the >arth6s

guardians and the >arth6s obections)

In order to carry out their studies, the /elon began to implant souls on

their ay to >arth ith -spy+are8) $hese ere observing and

recording devices hich ere implanted into souls ithout their

approval and ithout their knoledge 1 a maor act of removingfreedom of choice) As their knoledge of human life increased, each

/elon race developed di?erent strategies and then put those strategies

into play at varying times)

For e0ample& $he Annunaki travelled back in time to ancient Sumeria

of about K,OOO years ago) As stated in Sitchin6s translations of the

Annunaki story, they dictated a story to a Sumerian scribe) $his story

as actually a combination of the early history of the Hebre peoples

mi0ed together ith the history of the /elon solar system) :hilst

Sitchin has alays maintained that the Annunaki fantasy story is the

basis of the .ld $estament, there are sources of information that have

come to light in the last 9O years hich can disprove Sitchin6s theory)


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Also, the .ld $estament is a history book based on the e0periences of

the Hebre peoples) It as ritten as a record of their e0periences

over a long period of time) As a natural part of riting this history, it

as added to as each phase as completed) In other ords, it as

ritten at a time hen the events described had been lived through

and, as such, as a record of those events ritten don by Jabbis 1 it

as not dictated to a scribe) Sitchin6s translations of the Annunaki

fantasy states that it as dictated as a complete story and not a story

that as ritten as it evolved in the same ay as the .ld $estament

as)

$he hole purpose of dictating this fantasy story as to make humans

believe that the Annunaki ere our creator gods and that the Annunaki

created us to be a race of slaves) :ith this story embedded into the

human consciousness, hen the Annunaki revealed themselves in the

present time, they hoped they ould be elcomed as our gods and

given anything they anted by humans) $he real basis of the .ld

$estament is to be found in the archaeological =ndings at "obekli $epeon the borders of Ira, $urkey and $urkistan 1 collectively knon as

-$he #ult of Angels8) $hese =ndings totally disprove the Annunaki

fantasy story)

$he .a and 7ila used channelled messages in an attempt to persuade

people to allo them access to >arth) $hese seem to have been

centred mainly on the islands of Haaii) $he undaa began to adopt

various disguises here they masueraded as members of the other

semi+physical races, again through channelled means) $he ohnaan

also adopted various disguises mainly as $he "alactic Federation,

Ashtar #ommand, $he "reat :hite Erotherhood, etc) $hey also took on

individual personas such as Pord 7etatron (later changed to Arch Angel


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7etatron% as ell as Pord Sananda (claiming to be the #hrist

consciousness% and many other individuals, Arch Angels and Angels 1

the source of their adopted Angel personas being the =ndings at

"obekli $epe)

$hey also made numerous claims to have returned to >arth to free

humans from the -prison8 e had been incarcerated in folloing a

series of inter+race and inter+galactic ars) Jemember, from above,

none of the niversal races have ever developed eapons nor have

any ars taken place anyhere aay from >arth)

$he Hathor also used channelled means to contact people) $heir form

of channelling as ith musical seuences to help people to heal

illness) Ey building up a folloing of their healing music, the Hathor

persuaded a group of people to sink to copper+lined shafts MOOm (222

feet% vertically into the ground) $hese copper tubes ere =lled ith

programmed uartG crystals and ere knon as celestoriums) $o

celestoriums ere built but only one became fully active) $he

celestoriums ere designed for one purpose 1 to be giant -tuningforks8 that resonated at freuencies that ere designed to evict the

>arth6s consciousness from the planet alloing /elus M to take control)

Fortunately, the >arth6s guardians stepped in and destroyed both

celestoriums before they could ful=ll their designed function)

/elus M, hoever, had di?erent ideas)

"iven that /elus M had been unable to remove the >arth6s

consciousness, -he8 looked around for di?erent ays to control events

on >arth) Humans have had a tendency to try and control others,

usually stemming from greed) $his is nothing to do ith the energy

patterns of the M*th Faction,although I am sure that individuals ho

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:ith the rise of the poer of money, those ho controlled banking

houses became more and more greedy and develop a ant for poer)

.ne person ho had a need as 7ayer Amschel Jothschild ho, along

ith Adam :eishaupt, established the Eavarian Illuminati in ML)

:eishaupt became a target for /elus M and, in a process that could be

described as a -alk+in8 took control of :eishaupt) In doing so, /elus M

controlled the Illuminati)

$he Eavarian Illuminati orked ith many poerful people and set out

an agenda for orld domination 1 the total control of all life on the

planet) Ey engineering events such as the French Jevolution, the

American Jevolution and the Jussian Jevolution, the Illuminati have

e?ectively controlled all aspects of human life and human thinking)

:ith the backing of /elus M (a solar system+siGed consciousness%, they

have had access to suQcient energy to allo them to achieve most of

their goals) $he goals they have not yet achieved are very much

underay and this is hy e have seen such an increase of

government and military control in recent years)

Hoever, the race is on 1 can the /elus M controlled Illuminati achieve

all of their aims before the end of 9OM9 hen people return to full

consciousness; + 4o)

niversal Jeactions

$he founding energies of this niverse are those of freedom of choice)

All souls that e0ist ithin this niverse have absolute freedom of

choice to choose their actions the only thing that cannot be done is to

act in such a ay that it removes the choice of another to act freely)

$he activities of the /elon have clearly broken this la and caused


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maor repercussions throughout the hole of this niverse)

$he actions taken by the /elon that have broken this niversal la and

energy patterns are these&

M) $he implantation of monitoring devices into people ithout their

knoledge or approval)

9) $he control of an organisation (the Illuminati% hose intention is to

totally control every single aspect of human life by taking aay the

choices of the individual)

2) Ey far the greatest act of removing freedom of choice as the

attempt by =rst /elus M and then by the Hathor of the removal of the

>arth6s consciousness against Her choices)

$hese actions broke niversal Pa and disrupted the energy patterns

of the hole niverse) If e on >arth ere not so close to completing

$he Human lan, the actions of the /elon ould have forced this

niverse to collapse in on itself and return to source 1 literally to

destroy this niverse)

$he /elon have not been contaminated by the energies of the M*th

Faction nor have they been forced to take any actions by the M*th

Faction) $he /elon acted on their on) $here is no clear anser as to

hy the /elon acted in the ay in hich they have) $he only

conclusions that have been reached is that 1 to put it into human terms

1 /elus M had some kind of -religious madness8 hich infected the rest

of the /elon races forcing them to see themselves as -"od6s chosen

people8 ho should travel to live on -"od6s chosen planet8 and this is

hat brought them to >arth)

7any attempts ere made, by the other races as ell as the $hirteen,


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to make the /elon return to their home gala0y and leave the >arth and

our solar system alone) $he /elon made many promises hich ere

never ful=lled) $he result as that the maority of the /elon race as

evicted from this niverse and no inhabit a ne solar system that is

free Boating in the non+universal void)

nfortunately somehere in the region of 2 million /elon managed to

avoid eviction) $he e0planation of ho they managed to achieve this is

immense and not something that can be e0plained here) $hese 2

million /elon have been consistently misleading and attacking humans

through channelled means in the hope that they can disrupt $he

Human lan6s conclusions and prevent humans from achieving soul re+

integration)

$hese remaining /elon are only capable of remaining around our solar

system because of the help that misguided humans are giving to them)

$hese are humans ho have been misled by the /elon ithout their

realising and ho continue to ork ith the bogus /elon organisations

like Ashtar #ommand, Arch Angels and Angels etc, providing theremaining /elon ith suQcient energies to maintain their position in

this niverse and attack the >arth) $he problem is that these people

totally believe that they are orking ith beingsentities that are doing

good and so they choose to continue orking ith them even though

the beings entities they are orking ith are /elon 1 this is an

e0ample of free choice in action and further proof of the /elon

deliberately removing freedom of choice) $here are thousands of

people hoping for, and asking for, some kind of alien intervention and

the /elon are presenting themselves as those ho ful=l this desire)

The Pelon are :eeding o= these human energies)

$he /elon have been condemned to e0pulsion from this niverse 1 all


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of the /elon) It is only the actions of some humans that are preventing

the niverse from returning to full balance) $he biggest problem is that

humans accept channelled messages ithout uestion) -If it is from a

non+human source then it must be something good8) If I said to you

that the sky is green, you ould demand proof hereas if a channelled

source said that the sky is green you ould say -really; I alays

thought it as blue 1 but if you say it is green then I ill alter my

perceptions to accommodate hat you say8)

It is this blind acceptance of these kinds of messages that has alloed

the /elon to take hold of many thousands of people on >arth) Also, as

e approach the end of $he Human lan, many people have realised

that time is no very short and that there appears to be a great deal of

ork still to do) $hese people are hoping that -someone8 ill come in

and take care of all of their problems for them) Again, the /elon have

created =ctitious beingsentities that make empty promises to take

responsibility for human inactions and fears)

.ver the years, I have spoken to many di?erent kinds of channellersho claim to be orking ith one race or another) I have alays

suggested that they uestion the source of these channelled messages

to =nd out if the source is ho and hat they claim to be) In the fe

instances here the channeller has challenged their source, they have

alays found them to be /elon) I have also spoken to a number of

channellers ho state that they are -uncomfortable8 ith the beings

and material they channel but have continued because the channelling

ork makes them -feel special8) In the years that I have been trying to

track don /elon activity, I have read a huge amount of channelled

material) $o me, virtually all of these channelled sources are obviously

/elon and every fe months, or years, the messages totally change

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Even the sources change their names! Ta"e or e1ample the

being who calls himsel &etatron! :-e frst began calling

himsel :ord &etatron and described himsel as being an

:scended %irian who had returned rom the universe to

which :he had ascended to undo the problems caused by an

inter/galactic war o many thousands o years ago in our

2niverse! .n recent months, this &etatron now describes

himsel as :rch ngel &etatron! :-e has changed rom

being an :scended %irian to being an :rch ngel and yet

the messages :he produces are accepted without any "ind o

challenge * you are either o %irian origin or you are an

:angel, you cannot be both!

.n other words, the s"y is green

In normal life, e uestion most of hat e are told but it seems that

hen e come to channelled sources, e seem to leave common

sense behind and blindly accept hat the source tells us no matter

ho ridiculous or suspicious the messages are) :e really do need tostop doing this) It is the blind acceptance of the messages from the

/elon that is the cause of so many of the current problems on >arth)


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most :spiritual! The only way in which these fnal Pelon can

be ully evicted rom this 2niverse is by humans reKecting them

and their deliberate lies and giving their ull support to &other

Earth!

:e, humans, are here on >arth to =nd ansers to many uestions and

e have been inordinately successful in so doing) In the last ,OOO

years, e have orked very closely ith 7other >arth to =nd the

ansers needed to complete $he Human lan) $he Human lan is a

cooperative venture by the >arth and humans orking together and

the solution to >arth and human problems can only be resolved by the

>arth and humans) 4obody from outside can do anything on our

behalf nobody can step in and solve these problems for us or to take

on our responsibility to ourselves and the >arth 1 to do so ould break

the free choice the >arth and humans made hen e began $he

Human lan)

:e have found the ansers e needed to =nd by humans and the

>arth orking together, even ith this situation of humans choosing tosupport the /elon, there is nothing to prevent us from completing $he

Human lan and achieving soul re+integration) $his ill be achieved,

despite the problems caused by human gullibility and lack of

responsibility, before 9MM9M9)

$o vie a pdf copy of this article click here&

http&thespiritguides)co)ukchristh)))UofU>nergy)pdf

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Pisa Harrison intervie ith #hris $homas

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intervie ith #hris $homas 1 lots of good C interesting info) :ill

attempt to lay it out is a couple+three parts)


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.ctober MK, 9OM9 Intervie tM

Pisa& #hris has been somehat psychic since the age of and has the

ability to read the Akashic Jecords and I ant to elcome #hris$homas)

#hris& Pisa it6s nice to be here)

Pisa& Povely, no in one of your intervies I did hear you talk about

having the ability uite young to read auras) Dou seemed to develop

psychic ability uite young but it asn6t really supported, and you

suppressed it somehat)

#hris& 4o) 7y mother had comparatively strong #hristian vies and so

anything that had to do ith psychic abilities as heavily froned

upon, to put it mildly)
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Pisa& So can you really suppress it, can you do that kind of thing, can

you sitch it o?, or did you ust stop talking about it;

#hris& Deah, it6s ust like everything else, it as ust a uestion of not

orking ith it and trying to think of something else, you kno)

Pisa& So you could stop yourself from seeing people6s auras;

#hris& 4ot entirely, but I stopped talking about it, and didn6t really

develop hat I could do)

Pisa& And hen did that change for you;

#hris& :hen I as early 9O6s) I met someone ho as developing

themselves into their on version of Ymedium+ship6, and so, really, I

started to pick it up from there and investigate things much more

deeply) I found that I had, like a lot of people obviously, that I had a

very natural healing ability) :hich I then anted to develop as much asI possibly could)

Pisa& And you mean ust energetic hands+on kind of healing;

#hris& Dup) And, also like a lot of healers, I found that I had an empathic

response ith the people I as orking ith) In other ords, I could

feel hat their problems ere ithin my on body) Eut I6ve managed

to =nd a ay of 4.$ hanging onto those feelings, if you like, so that by

recogniGing that they eren6t mine 1 they ere somebody else6s 1 I

could get rid of them) A lot of healers have problems actually ending

up ith an accumulation of their clients6 problems)


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Pisa& Deah, a very uncomfortable state to be in I6m sure)

#hris& Ah, yes very) And then I made a conscious decision one day to

get into hat people call Ypsychic surgery6) And so, that6s the ay I

developed along those lines) >ventually, hat I ended up being able to

do as to literally read inside people6s bodies, a bit like an 7JI

scanner) I could actually see in 2+dimensions and in real time hat as

actually going on)

Pisa& 4o hat e6ve seen here in Australia of psychic surgery is

footage from predominantly Indonesia, usually ith the agenda to

paint it as a fraud) It is people literally putting their hands in somebody

else6s body) :ere you getting to that point;

#hris& Des, and I decided not to) Again it felt to me as though I had a

clear choice) I could go either ay) I could go into hat they called the

intrusive psychic surgery, or non+intrusive psychic surgery, and Ithought of putting my hands inside someone6s body ould scare the

life out of me, never mind the one I6m orking on) So I thought I6m not

going to go don that route) P.P!

Pisa& P.P! I don6t actually blame you at all5 lol)

#hris& P.P! It is, you kno, uite fascinating in the hilippines they do

have a tradition) nfortunately, you do also have a lot of charlatans

orking in those kinds of ay by secreting little blood clots, around the

place C all that sort of thing) So I felt that if I can ork ithout even

touching the people, then it6s proof to me that I6m doing hat I think

I6m doing, and it6s proof to the person I6m orking ith that e6re dong


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something that is genuine but also di?erent)

Pisa& :hen it comes to the Akashic, though, I6m interested in a couple

of sort of practical aspects of the Akashic Jecord) :here does the

Akashic reside; If e talk densities, or dimensions, or realms + here

ould you say the Akashic lives;

#hris& Jight))) $here are actually multiple layers to it) So hat you

actually have is an Akashic of people, so on a human level) All the ord

Akashic means is YJecord6 so it6s pure and simply a record of events

that occurred) So there6s an Akashic that orks ith the >arth and ith

human activities) $hen there6s Akashic that orks at solar system

level) $hen there6s another layer that orks at the "alactic level, and

then obviously there6s then the overall picture hich is part of the

niversal Akashic)

So essentially, it6s recorded ithin a scienti=c ay I suppose you could

say it6s recorded ithin Space$ime) It6s actually recorded ithin

energetic sirls ithin the actual structure of the niverse itself)

Pisa& So ho does this relate to hat e call the collective

consciousness;

#hris& Des, you could see the collective consciousness as being one

layer of the Akashic)

Pisa& So lets say, for an e0ample, the collective consciousness is an in+

the+moment repository of the potentials, as ell as the thoughts and

the various potentials as to the ay events could go, and yet once it6s

done, once it6s happened, it becomes part of the Akashic;


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#hris& >ssentially yes) :e live in a niverse that is constructed of the

energies of Yfreedom of choice6) So literally every soul that e0ists ithin

this niverse has absolute Yfreedom of choice6 to choose their actions)

:hat you cannot do is to act in such a ay that removes somebody

else6s choice to act freely) So hat you have on a human level& :e all

have our Yfree choice6 so e e0ercise that free choice in taking the

decisions e do to carry on ith our lives) Eut once our decision is

made then a =0ed point occurs, if you like, and it6s that action that is

recorded rather than , as you say, the potentials and the possibilities)

Pisa& So if you anted to read potentials and possibilities, you6d look at

the layer that is the collective consciousness, and if you anted to look

at the history, you6d look at the level you call the Akashic)

#hris& uhmmm5 yes) (Paugh% It6s an immensely complicated uestion)

I mean to anser properly)

Pisa& .)X) "ood anser) (Paughs%

#hris& Eut yes, that6s a reasonable summation of it) $here are alays

potential situations hich can and cannot occur, and then it depends

on hat choices made, either individually or collectively, as to hich

direction that potential is taken)

Pisa& :hen you say that you can 'read' the Akashic))) :ith regard to

language))) hat language is the Akashic ritten in;


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for me, I have a very strong connection ith my on Higher Self) And

so, basically e ork together if you like to look for hatever ansers I

happen to be looking for at the particular time) $herefore, the ansers

come through the Higher Self and then into any room they can =nd in

this craGy brain of mine) And then my brain translates it into the

images, or ords, or thoughts, to =nd the anser)

Pisa& So ho much of it is left up to your personal interpretation; Ho

much do you bring to it;

#hris& Hopefully nothing) $his is hat I try to do) $he essential test to

me is to 1 if I6m looking for the anser to a uestion 1 is to ask that

uestion from about 9K di?erent directions) From as many directions as

I can possibly think of) So that hat I6m actually homing in on is the

reality of the situation 1 of hat actually did occur) Eecause it is very

easy to put an interpretation on it from your on lifetime6s e0perience)

And so I try very hard to avoid that by asking as many uestions as I

can think of to try and ork out really hat the event as)

Pisa& :hen did you realiGe that hat you ere doing as reading the

Akashic;

#hris& Again, it ould have been sort of mid 9O6s)

Pisa& And ho;

#hris& (laugh% Actually I6ve never thought about that one) 7y very =rst

book + $he very =rst manuscript I ever rote 1 I really anted to look at

hat Human history as all about 1 :hy e6re here, hat e6re doing,

and hy e6re doing it) And so I set about on that really 1 of unraveling

hat is the reality of human history rather than the rubbish that is in


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the history books) And so I ust began on that process) It seemed a

perfectly natural ay for doing it at the time)

So obviously, it as me orking ith my Higher Self, and it as

presumably hatever my Higher Self had planned as the ne0t thing I

as supposed to do in my life as to get this manuscript) So, that's

ho I got started) And I6d come across something that as

contradictory to hat the history books say5 So I6d think about that

and then ask various uestions around the Akashic, and then I6d =nd a

reference to it somehere) :hether it as to people I didn6t kno

speaking, like to strangers speaking on a bus, or hatever) I6d =nd

that they ere having a conversation about the point that I as trying

think about) .r, I6d pick up a book somehere and I6d =nd a reference

to hat I as looking at, and =nd that there as a con=rmation of hat

the Akashic said, rather than hat the history books said) And so,

really, it became a developmental process from that, and I found that

every time I did come up ith an anser to something, hich as

contradictory, someho or other it as con=rmed)

So then gradually over a fe years, I learned to recogniGe hat as

the Akashic and hat ere my on thoughts, and that I could trust

hat as coming from the Akashic)

Pisa& 4o one of the ords you use, and that I haven6t heard before, is

the ord '/elon') :ho are they; .r, hat are they;

#hris& :ithin the niverse there are M2 races of beings ho are, if you

like, human siGed) $heir souls have an energy pattern that ould

roughly correspond to hat humans are) So L of these races are

entirely non+physical) In other ords, they e0ist purely as a soul

energy) $hey have no physical form or physical density) Eut the outline


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of the energy that they6re constructed from is basically humanoid) And,

VVZ of the souls that e0ist on >arth ho originate from these L races)

So e6re 1 essentially, all Humans are aliens in some respects if you

like)

Eut, then e have in beteen these non+physical races and the full

physical Human e have, hat the Akashic describes as semi+physical

races, and there are of them) So these are the guys, ho F.s, the

aliens, and the "reys, and all the rest) So, they6re all part of the semi+

physical races)

4o one of the semi+physical races calls itself /elon) 4o they

originate from a "ala0y that in the night sky is in the direction of the

constellation of Sagittarius) It6s about 29 "ala0ies beyond it) Eut in the

same ay that humans, you kno, you6re human, IYm Human, you

ouldn6t call yourself human) Dou6d call yourself Australian, I6d call

myself :elsh, or eish, or "reek, or #hristian, or 7oslem, or hatever

it is + e ouldn6t say Human) And so the /elon themselves are made

up of L di?erent races in the same ay as Australian is one Jace,:elsh is another race)

So the /elon divide themselves up in that same ay, and there are L of

them) $hey usually call themselves by hatever their race name

happens to be rather than call themselves /elon) $he L races are the

Anunnaki, the Hathor, undaa, ohnaan, .a and 7ila) I6m sure a lot of

people have heard of the Anunnaki, a fe less people probably recall

the Hathor) Some ill have heard of the .a and 7ila, particularly in

Haaii I understand here the .a and 7ila have concentrated on in

their communications to >arth) And so that6s ho they really are)

And the /elon are a strange race in many respects in that they6ve kept


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themselves very much to themselves) $hey didn6t travel out of their

home gala0y as it ere, unlike say the leiadians, or the "reys, ho

get pretty much everyhere hen it comes don to it) So the /elon

stayed ithin their home "ala0y, but someho or other had a

revelatory moment and decided they ould come to >arth and ith

basically the intent of basically removing people o? the planet so that

they could take over the planet for themselves)

4o, I kno that sound like the script from a YE6 sci+= movie but this is

hat they6ve been doing ever since for the last 2OO, or so, years)

Pisa& So, to recap + there are M2 races that are essentially human siGed

and the soul is human siGed)

#hris& Deah, human shaped anyay)

Pisa& L of them have no form, they6re ust energetic and VVZ of

humans here on >arth are from these races) $here are then that are

semi+physical , one of hich is called the /elon, but the /elon haveithin it L races)

#hris& Des)

Pisa& So hen you say they had a revelatory moment to come here, e

ere already here then;

#hris& Des this only occurred 2KO years ago) 4o, let me rephrase that a

little bit + MOOO years ago it occurred in human time frames + MOOO

years ago they had this revelatory moment) It then took them LKO

years ust to get here)


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Pisa& So hat about the concept that e have been interfered ith for

a lot longer than that;

#hris& :hat do you mean + the Anunnaki story from Sitchin6s material;

Pisa& $hings like that))) Deah))) the interference on this planet goes back

MOOO6s of years)

#hris& Jubbish)

Pisa& .h .)X) (Paughs%

[Sitchin6s $ranslations of the Anunnaki 7aterial + A Fabricated Story[

#hris& 4o, 4o, I understand a lot of people believe in this very strongly

because of things like Sitchin6s translations of the Anunnaki material)

4o, I have read pretty much all of Sitchin6s books on his translations,

and I think the most interesting thing about it is + a proof, if you like,that this is actually a fabricated story) It6s made up by the Anunnaki)

If you think of the .ld $estament hich Sitchin says it is the basis of

the Anunnaki story) If you think about the ay the .ld $estament is

ritten, hat you have is& it6s ust a record, it6s a story book of all the

peoples that are ithin the story + ho they travelled, ho they

moved, and ho they ended up in #anaan) And that6s all it is) It ust

says& this is hat e did and this is ho e did it + kind of idea)

If you research in translations hat virtually every section of hat the

stories says, this story is being dictated to a scribe) In other ords,

somebody turned up ith a full story already put together, and they6re


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dictating that story to someone hose taking it don into clay tablets)

$hat doesn6t happen) 4ot if it is genuine history, then it doesn6t happen

that ay) It6s ust ritten as people ho are undergoing and living

through it 1 it says ell e6re going here 1 Dou kno e6re travelling

from >gypt to #anaan, and this is the e0periences e have had along

the ay)

Pisa& :ell if the /elon only turned up 2KO years ago, as there another

presence here prior to them that came here to mess around;

#hris& 4o, not really) I6ll tell you))) I6ll give you a brief history of the

niverse) >ven uicker than Stephen Haking can do it&

$he niverse =rst came into being roughly M* Eillion years ago, and

that6s about the only date the scientists seem to have got right, as far

as the Akashic is concerned) $he purpose of the niverse is& $here is a

#reationary Source out there + shall e say, hoever you ant to

describe it 1 ho had a thought& [:hat ould happen if;[ $hat6s about

the only ay I can describe ho these things ork) So 'hat ouldhappen if'))) there ere souls ho had free choice and freedom of

movement throughout space ith all the energy patterns necessary to

support and sustain that life;

And that6s the reason for the niverse) Easically, hat ould happen if

every soul that as in this niverse had Yfreedom of choice6;

$he niverse is a #onscious Eeing + Its Another Soul +

It Has #hoices + It #an


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conscious being, it6s a soul itself, made up of M2 separate beings, M2

separate souls) Eut then ithin that you have hat e look at as a

structure of a gala0y is actually a consciousness itself, as ell + its

another soul)

So everything that is ithin the niverse is alive) It has consciousness

and has choices that it can do hatever it is that it chooses to do) Eut

part of the purpose of the niverse as then to ork ith souls ho

are of this Human scale) So that e had choices to move freely around

the "ala0ies and have e0periences and e0plore hatever e chose to

e0plore)

Pisa& So that e ere compatible no matter here e ent;

#hris& Des) And that6s ho it as originally, and then these L non+

physical races said& -:e6re missing something)8 Dou kno& -e can

interact ith every other soul in the niverse, but e can6t touch

something, e can6t feel something physically8) And so a decision as

then made collectively ithin the niverse to think of& -hat ouldhuman life be like;8 So the semi+physical races ere brought into

being (as a sort of half+ay stage, as it ere% and then humans, or the

>arth started to form and our solar system started to form)

So basically, the L non physical races ere =rst created MOO 7illion

years ago) So you, as a soul, are MOO 7illion years old) $hen the semi

physical races came into being, ere created speci=cally to be semi

physical about 2O 7illion years ago) Eut in beteen, about *O 7illion

years ago, the solar system started to form, came into being, started

to look at hat kind of life it anted to have C ho it could e0press

life) So, I kno the scienti=c vie is that the >arth is * Eillion years old)

Eut that6s based on a meteorite that has come from somehere, no


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one knos here it came from, that as found on the >arth a fe

years ago) $hey put it through some testing euipment and came up

ith a =gure of * Eillion years)

:hich I think is completely a lot of rubbish and actually scientists

themselves say it6s a complete load of rubbish, because hen

scientists =rst started orking out ho old life as on >arth , they

came up ith a =gure of 9K 7illion years and that6s hat the Akashic

says) $hat 9K 7illion years ago life started to develop on >arth)

Pisa& So does that mean that >arth Humans are the pinnacle of

evolution in terms of vessels that hold soul mass;

#hris& 4o) :e6re ust another layer of e0perimentation ith choice) See

everything that6s souls that e0ist on this planet6s niverse is of human

scale is eual) :e6re all the same) 4o one6s di?erent, hether e6re

non+physical, semi+physical or human) :e6re all essentially eual) So

there6s no such thing as pinnacles of development) It6s ust another

level of e0ploration of hat is possible)

Pisa& I guess hat I meant in terms of pinnacle is the most physical

vessel)

#hris& Alright in those terms& Des) $he human is the densest form of life

in the niverse, hichever ay you ant to look at that)


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4othing like a human e0ists anyhere else in the niverse) .nly ithin

our solar system can human life e0ist in the form that it6s in)

Pisa& So does that mean that all the >$s are essentially inter+

dimensional in terms of as opposed to e0traterrestrial;

#hris& m))) they6re both, because >$s cannot e0ist in their normal

state ithin our solar system) $hey have to alter their energy patterns

and their physical density for us to see them) $his is hy you get so

many reports of F.s suddenly disappearing from sight or you couldnYt

see an >$ inner eye kind of thing) It6s because their energy patterns

are entirely di?erent to ours) $hey don6t 4A$JAPPD e0ist at the kind of

energy compaction levels that e e0ist at) So to come into our solar

system they have to actually alter their energy patterns uite radically

to make themselves visible)

Pisa& And hat are your thoughts on let6s ust pick a couple of ell

knon >$s that are supposedly here because the "reys and say theJeptiles) :hat are your thoughts on hy they6re here and hat their

agenda is;

#hris& $he "reys are an interesting bunch) So that6s your classic >$ you

kno ust over a metre tall, grey skin and big black eyes) $hey don6t

actually have big black eyes, $heir eyes are actually bright yello ith

vertical irises) It6s ust the energy patterns ithin our solar system

means they literally have to shield their eyes or otherise they ould

get damaged) So they basically ear eye shades)

$hey have physiological problems) $hey see their bodies as being

unstable and in the process of deteriorating5 and so, they6ve come to


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>arth to learn about human physiology to see hether they can learn

about a more physical form that they can adopt to themselves to make

their body stronger) $hat is essentially hy the "reys are here)

Pisa& $hat sounds like nature made a mistake some ho in making

them)

#hris& 4o, not really because everything is an e0periment) 4obody

knos hat these things are) $his is hy e6re here to =nd out hat

happens) $he reason hy the semi physical races are there is to =nd

out hat happens) And so, as far as the "reys are concerned, that6s

ho they see their body in that they have slight problems ith it)

It6s not a maor problem, ultimately to sort the "reys out, but they6re

here as much out of curiosity as anything else to see hat they can

learn from humans)

Pisa&


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Pisa& :ould that be the ones depicted in Indian culture sort of like the

blue


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basically) :hich is located in the night sky somehere in the arc of the

leiadian stars, but many gala0ies beyond the leiades) $hey are the

ones ho orked ith the >arth more than any other race, because

they are master geneticists)

So if the >arth ants a ne plant form, or a ne animal form designed

to ork on >arth, then she ould call in these beings from the 4"#K3*

star system and they ork closely ith the >arth to develop a ne

form of life) $hey really are superb at hat they do, ithout any

agenda, to help hatever planet reuires their help)

4"#K3* star system

.bserver& :arrington #ollegiate

$elescope& Faulkes $elescope

Pisa& And hat about humanity herself) :ere they involved in the

creation of these di?erent races on >arth;

#hris& 4o) It is ust bio+diversity) Dou kno people ere black skinned

live in hot climates because a black skin is most appropriate for a hot

climate) Pike people ith paler skins live in cooler climates because

that6s more appropriate to the kind of climate)

Pisa& Eut if VVZ of humans are from the non physical races are e

representing at least L of those races;

#hris& :ell yes, each of those races do fall into distinct races) So they

are in separate from each other) So yes, they ill be represented on

the earth as being slightly di?erent, but I mean e ouldn6t be able to


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tell the di?erence) >ven a very good psychic ouldn6t be able to tell

the di?erence) Eut there is a certain amount of variation in human

form 1 and obviously look at the apanese people, they tend to be fairly

short ith that sort of yelloish colour skin, and then you look at the

4ordic races hich are very tall ith pale skin) So, there are variations

that could reBect people coming from one of the L non physical races,

but really it6s much more to do ith human genetic patterns and

energy patterns ithin particular regions that create the variation in

human form)

Pisa& So you said the only ones that really pose a threat are the /elon)

Eut hat kind of threat;

#hris& :ell essentially they ant humans o? the planet) :hen they

=rst came here about 2KO years ago, as I said, they took a look at the

place and each of the L /elon races took on a di?erent strategy) So the

Anunnaki concocted a story hich is Sitchin6s translations) It6s based

on certain facts that they6ve also embroidered considerably to make it

look as though they are man6s creators)

So hat the Anunnaki hoped as that the humans at this time ould

get hold of Sitchin6s translations, and elcome them as our gods and

elcome them in hen they turned up, at the present time, that6s hat

it6s all about) 4o the Anunnaki story is a combination of stories so if

you go ay back into history hat you =nd is& $here is an

archaeological dig going on at the moment in a place called "obekli

$epe) :hich is on the borders of 4orthern Ira, southern $urkey and

$urkmenistan I think it is)

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All that is there is an old temple comple0, hat archaeologists are

describing as the oldest comple0 ever found on earth hich they date

to being M*,OOO years ago, but the Akashic dates it as more ,OOO

years ago) \lease 4.$>& #hris, in a private email to Herbert, corrects

his misstatement by clarifying this point, as he, in fact, meant to say

that the Akashic dates this comple0 at being M3,OOO years ago, putting

it in par ith the dating of the yramids of >gypt, South America, $ibet)

See post ] MK*)^ ust don the road form "obekli $epe is the ancient

biblical city of r of the #haldeas, hich is here Abraham originated)

$he .ld $estament is all about Abraham and his descendants, and also

udaism, #hristianity, and Islam) $hese all originated from Abraham)

$his area around "obekli $epe they called '>den') And, they ere

attacked by a race ho came from the north, ho they called 'gods')

So this is the origin here it says in the .ld $estament -$all ale "ods8

coming from the 4orth and mating ith the locals) So hat you have

is))) em ) ) ) if you look at the people of $urkey and Ira at the moment

they are pretty much of the same appearance) $hey are of mediumheight, dark+haired and olive skinned) So you can imagine people at

that time living in >den suddenly =nding themselves confronted ith

people ho are fair+skinned, fair+haired and something like 3 or V foot

tall)

Eecause hat these tall northerners ere, the people that invaded this

area around r de #haldeas ere hangovers from a di?erent human

race hich scientists called gigantopithicus) And they no longer e0ist

on the planet) So they have no den actually attacked these northerners and they


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destroyed them all, they killed them all, massacred them totally)

$his is the reason hy they left >den as to get aay from the fact

that they had killed their gods) $ravelled don into >gypt, and then

became the eish race, hich then formed the .ld $estament and

these stories have been ritten as e0periences of hat they had

e0perienced as a race) So, that part of the Anunnaki story of these Y$all

ale 4orthern gods6 came don C mate ith the inhabitants and they

create this ne genetic strain) $hen on top of that, ithin Sitchin6s

translations, you have planets that are talked about hich are actually

the planets of the /elon home solar system, and events that occurred

ithin the /elon solar system) So, the planet called 7arduk hit one of

the moons of another planet and dislodged a lot of that planet) Dou

kno that sort of thing)

And you also have a planet called 4ibiru ithin the Anunnaki/elon

solar system) 4o, the /elon solar system has))) um))) V planets)))

(can't remember o? hand, its been a hile since I looked at this

stu?))))%, but V planets, and its got 9 suns) 4o, 2 planets)))er))) or)))hichever ay it is; )))can't remember o? hand))) 2 planets orbit

around one sun, and * planets orbit around the other sun, and then

one planet orbits both suns) So it has a huge orbit and that6s 4ibiru)

And the Anunnaki originate on that travelling planet) And so, hat

they6ve done is to create a story that combines very early human

history C their on history to try and make us believe that e are their

creation 1 that the Anunnaki created us + but it6s a false story)

4o, I6m not saying Sitchin made it up for hatever reason, because in

fairness, having read all of Sitchin6s books, he has done his e0treme

best to translate these clay tablets that are ritten in Sumerian

cuneiform riting that have been buried in the sands for KOOO years)


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So I6m not saying he6s rong, I6m saying the story itself is false)

Pisa& Eut if they6ve only been her 2KO years, e eren6t doing a real

good ob it either before then so) ) ) Paugh

#hris& :ell if you ant to look at real human history, it6s very di?erent

again to ho the historians have reported it) As far as I6m concerned,

you kno, the early form of human life that appeared on the planet, I

don6t kno hat =gure they put to it these days 1 about *O 7illion

years ago or something lik

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CHRIS THOMAS Lisa Harrison Interview 2012