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Case Study A Wired Internists Perspective Peter Basch, MD MedStar Health e-Commerce Leadership Team

Case Study A ÒWiredÓ InternistÕs Perspective · Individualized marketing MedicineÕs second curve ¥$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ Why should you care? Consumers Better care Efficiencies

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Case StudyA ÒWiredÓ InternistÕs

PerspectivePeter Basch, MD

MedStar Health

e-Commerce Leadership Team

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ÒWhy Doctors Hate the NetÓForrester - 3/2000

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Everyone Else Loves the Net

Conferences

News/information (if coupled tosomething else)

Transactional portals

Billing/claims

Rx services

Direct sales of non-rxmerchandise

Data mining

Individualized marketing

MedicineÕs second curve

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Why should you care?

Consumers

Better care

Efficiencies$$$$$$

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Why am I here?

¥ Practicing physician

¥ Successfully incorporated EMR and theInternet into daily practice

¥ Among the top 5% in productivity

¥ I love what I do

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Why should physicians care?

¥ We are hurting/hassledÐ Decreasing income

Ð Increasing workload

Ð Information overload

¥ Loss of professional status

¥ Disintermediated from patients

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Why are physicianÕs hurting?

¥ Only ~60% of day is potentially reimbursable¥ Demands on non-reimbursable time ↑¥ Reimbursements for lab services (formerly 25-

30% of an internistÕs income) mostly gone¥ Reimbursements ↓¥ Inconsistent, illogical, and constantly changing

rules/formularies¥ ↑ Criminalization of medicine

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Essential Physician Tasks

¥ Evaluate/document and respond to lab tests

¥ Evaluate/document and respond to imaging studies

¥ Evaluate/document consults

¥ Phone calls - patients, VNA, MDs, hospitals, pharmacists, PBMs

¥ Evaluate prior medical records

¥ See patients

¥ Document patient visits

¥ Generate rxs

¥ Generate referrals

¥ Complete forms

¥ Research patient specific problems

¥ Self education

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Reimbursable Physician Tasks

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Reimbursable Physician Tasks

¥ D

¥ d

¥ d

¥ d

¥ d

¥ d

¥ Appropriately coded and documented patient visits

¥ d

¥ d

¥ d

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XXXFraud & Abuse

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Essential Physician Tasks

¥ Evaluate/document and respond to lab tests

¥ Evaluate/document and respond to imaging studies

¥ Evaluate/document consults

¥ Phone calls - patients, VNA, MDs, hospitals, pharmacists, PBMs

¥ Evaluate prior medical records

¥ See patients

¥ Document patient visits

¥ Generate rxs

¥ Generate referrals

¥ Complete forms

¥ Research patient specific problems

¥ Self education

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Direct patient care/Nonbillable(average 10 hour day)

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Inside the Exam Room

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Direct patient care time -(what happens in those 15 min pt visits)

PreviewH&PReviewDocsNote

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Time perception- what the physician sees -

Constant

Motion

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Time analysis

+ =

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Time analysis - drilling down

¥ 6/10hrs in direct patientcare

¥ 2/10hrs in face to facetime with patients

¥ Patients donÕt care aboutthe spinning wheelsbehind the scenes

Face/Other/Nonbillable

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How should you addressphysicianÕs needs?

¥ Think physician centric

¥ Think global, present as physician centric

¥ Address workflow and point-of-care

¥ Respect physician attitudes/state of mind

¥ Must not Òadd one more thingÓ

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How I addressphysicianÕs needs?

¥ E-healthcare = Òone less thingÓ

¥ Built up Òfrom the bedsideÓ¥ ↑ efficiency/productivity/revenue

¥ ↑ quality/access/convenience & ↓ errors

¥ Address/explain technologyÐ neutral

Ð disruptive

Ð facilitative

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Principle of taskconsolidation/distribution

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Example of prescriptions

¥ Paper workflowÐ in addition to making correct dx

and treatment plan:

Ð check record for prioruse/appropriateness of meds

Ð check formulary

Ð check PDR for info

Ð check PDR on other meds forinteractions

Ð write rx

Ð write rx in med list

Ð write rx in visit note

Ð pharmacy callback

Ð med recall

Ð med stats/outcome

¥ Ideal workflowÐ write rx in exam

room

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Example of prescriptionsConsolidation/Distribution of workflow

EMR

Doctor Patient

RXChecks record for prioruse/ appropriateness

Checks formulary & auto-substitutes by class

Auto-fills routine info

Check interactions

Checks adverse reactions

Writes rx - print/fax/secure email

Auto-fills in medlist

Auto-fills chart note

Pharmacy callback

Recalls

Outcomes data/research

o

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Sales call #1

ÒWould you buy an electronicprescribing tool from this man?Ó

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Problem/Solution -electronic rxs

¥ The pitch - easier than calling PBMs, ↑ patient convenience

¥ My counter - I donÕt call PBMs, wrong solution for wrong problem

¥ My problem - medical assistants spends 4-6 hours/day phoning in acutecare rxs (to local pharmacies), with >1hr/d on hold

¥ His response - a mechanism for generating electronic rxs to pharmacy;service will improve/expand once pharmacies accept digital signatures

¥ The actual workflow todayÐ not directly from patient record

Ð only for limited mail order pharmacies

Ð pharmacy callback and verification procedure required

¥ ÒDid I mention that we get paid per transaction by the pharmacy?Ó

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How stupid am I? -electronic rxs

¥ Questionable benefit to patient

¥ Does not solve my problem

¥ Adds to my workload

¥ Adds to my staffsÕ workload

¥ Makes money per transaction for vendor

I am supposed to pay for this???

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Example of referralsConsolidation/Distribution of workflow

EMR

Doctor Patient

ReferralAuto-pulls correct form

Auto-pulls correct spec. list

Specialist list can becustomized by provider/IDN

Auto-presents rules

Auto-fills form

Prints/faxes/email tospec/health plan

Writes in EMR

Stores copy securely

Lost referrals

Billing disputes

Utilization data

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Sidebar on Referrals

¥ Physicians refer to their friends

¥ GUARANTEE - build an electronicreferral system that makes referralcreation, storage, and retrieval a processthat takes seconds (eliminating forms, useof multiple directories, callbacks,additional employees, etc), andÉÉÉ

¥ We will forget our friends in a heartbeat!

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Example of lab/imaging studiesConsolidation/Distribution of workflow

EMR

Doctor Patient

TestsAuto-pulls correct form

Auto-selects lab/facility(MD and/or IDN selection)

Prints/faxes/emails order

Writes in chart note

Reports auto-complete

Reports auto-enter as dataelements

Auto-disperses into flowsheet

Reporting generatespatient notification

Lost tests

Utilization data

Protocol adherence

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The Promise of Clinical Reporting

¥ The problem - physicians need betteraccess to reports

¥ The solution - the Internet is the perfectmedium to deliver - ÒAny report,anywhere, anytimeÓ

¥ Is that really the problem, and does thesolution create additional problems?

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The case against consumer-centric clinical reporting

Process Results management¥ Confidentiality/ patient

release

¥ Altering thepatient/physiciancontract

¥ ÒLifetimeÓ recordmanagement is time-consuming and notreimbursable

¥ Useful?

¥ Dangerous?

¥ Disruptive?

Cost?

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Can consolidation/distributionof workflow change physician

productivity?

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Adverse financial trends -actual & projected

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EMR - Year #2patients seen

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Another look inside theexam room

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Anatomy of a visit (post-EMR)

¥ Visits are quicker

¥ More Òface-timeÓ

¥ Chart preview &review are quicker

¥ Document creationhelps make note

¥ Note completion -often done as pt leavesroom

PreviewH&PReviewDocsNote

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Direct patient care/Nonbillable(average 10 hour day)Then---------------Now

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Face/Other/Nonbillable (average 10 hour day)Then---------------Now

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My dayThen---------------Now------

¥ Pre-office hours - hospitalrounds

¥ 8-9am - lab review

¥ 9-12pm - patients

¥ 12-12:30pm - overrun

¥ 12:30-1:15pm - dictate

¥ 1:15-1:30pm - lunch, journals

¥ 1:30-4:30pm - patients

¥ 4:30-5:00pm - calls

¥ 5-5:45pm - dictate

¥ Post-office hours - hospitalrounds, journals

¥ Pre-office hours - WebMD

¥ 8-8:20am - labs/letters

¥ 8:20-11am - patients

¥ 11-12:00pm - lunch/calls/Medscape/websurf

¥ 12:00-5pm - patients

¥ 5-5:45pm - records, mail

¥ Respond, triage/return callsthroughout the day

¥ Read and respond to e-mailthroughout the day

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Structural changes

¥ On-time

¥ Walk-ins

¥ Lunch hour

¥ Email

¥ Website

¥ Collaborative literature searches

¥ Hospital rounds

¥ Journals

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What then is an e-physician?

¥ Not a necessarily a techno-geek

¥ Use tools of the Web/I.T.

¥ Re-connected to information

¥ Re-connected to the patient/consumer

¥ More efficient/productive/successful/happy

¥ Able to look towards medicineÕs second curve

¥ ? Re-connected to hospital/IDN

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