Big Bang vs. Creation

Big Bang vs. Creation

Big Bang vs. Creation

Are we being told all the evidence or just selected information to support a

particular idea?

Creation CosmologyCreation Cosmology

“Fifteen to twenty billion years ago a big bang, or explosion, occurred, creating the universe. The universe began as an infinitely dense, hot fireball, a scrambling of space and time.”

“Fifteen to twenty billion years ago a big bang, or explosion, occurred, creating the universe. The universe began as an infinitely dense, hot fireball, a scrambling of space and time.”

The Handy Space Answer Book, 1998The Handy Space Answer Book, 1998

The Big BangThe Big Bang

The Big BangThe Big Bang

Original Matter

Expansion of space and timeExpansion of space and time

A Universe With No Center

Does this sudden explosion of nothing into something (the universe) sound like a miracle?

Big BangBig Bang

The Big BangThe Big Bang

“[The big bang] represents the instantaneous suspension of physical laws, the sudden abrupt flash of lawlessness that allowed something to come out of nothing. It represents a true miracle…”

“[The big bang] represents the instantaneous suspension of physical laws, the sudden abrupt flash of lawlessness that allowed something to come out of nothing. It represents a true miracle…”

Paul Davies, physicist and evolutionist, in his book - The Edge of Infinity, describes the big bang this way:Paul Davies, physicist and evolutionist, in his book - The Edge of Infinity, describes the big bang this way:

Why is this more scientific than In the beginning God created?

17 times the Bible declares that God stretched the heavens

2 Sam 22:10 Job 37:18 Isaiah 51:13Psalm 18:9 Isaiah 40:22 Jeremiah 10:12Psalm 104:2 Isaiah 42:5 Jeremiah 51:15Psalm 144:5 Isaiah 44:24 Ezekiel 1:22Job 9:8 Isaiah 45:12 Zechariah 12:1Job 26:7 Isaiah 48:13

2 Sam 22:10 Job 37:18 Isaiah 51:13Psalm 18:9 Isaiah 40:22 Jeremiah 10:12Psalm 104:2 Isaiah 42:5 Jeremiah 51:15Psalm 144:5 Isaiah 44:24 Ezekiel 1:22Job 9:8 Isaiah 45:12 Zechariah 12:1Job 26:7 Isaiah 48:13

God Stretched the HeavensGod Stretched the Heavens

God Stretched Out the HeavensGod Stretched Out the Heavens Isaiah 42:5 This is what God the LORD says— he who created the heavens

and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it:

Isaiah 44:24 "This is what the LORD says— your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself,

Isaiah 45:12 It is I who made the earth and created mankind upon it. My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts.

Isaiah 51:13 that you forget the LORD your Maker, who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth, that you live in constant terror every day because of the wrath of the oppressor, who is bent on destruction? For where is the wrath of the oppressor?

Jeremiah 10:12 But God made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.

Jeremiah 51:15 "He made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.

Isaiah 42:5 This is what God the LORD says— he who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it:

Isaiah 44:24 "This is what the LORD says— your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb: I am the LORD, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself,

Isaiah 45:12 It is I who made the earth and created mankind upon it. My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts.

Isaiah 51:13 that you forget the LORD your Maker, who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth, that you live in constant terror every day because of the wrath of the oppressor, who is bent on destruction? For where is the wrath of the oppressor?

Jeremiah 10:12 But God made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.

Jeremiah 51:15 "He made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom and stretched out the heavens by his understanding.

Is the Big Bang True?Is the Big Bang True?

2,000 years of incorrect interpretation Science is needed to understand Scripture The authority of Scripture is in doubt The Earth is not a special place

2,000 years of incorrect interpretation Science is needed to understand Scripture The authority of Scripture is in doubt The Earth is not a special place

If the big bang is true then:If the big bang is true then:

Big Bang vs. CreationBig Bang vs. Creation

Order of Appearance (Evolution) Order of Appearance (Bible)

1. Sun/stars existed before the Earth

2. Sun is Earth’s first light3. First life = marine organisms4. Reptiles predate birds5. Land mammals predate

whales6. Disease/death precede man’s

sin

1. Earth created before sun/stars

2. Light on Earth before sun3. First life = land plants4. Birds predate land reptiles5. Whales predate land

animals6. Disease/death results from

man’s sin

The order of events in the creation is inconsistent with the evolutionary model.

The Big BangThe Big Bang

There is no special place in the universe

The universe is homogeneous

There is no center to the universe

There is no special place in the universe

The universe is homogeneous

There is no center to the universe

The Big BangThe Big Bang

Redshift Cosmic background radiation Element abundances

Redshift Cosmic background radiation Element abundances

Evidences used to support the big bangEvidences used to support the big bang

Edwin HubbleEdwin Hubble

Moving towardMoving toward Moving awayMoving away

Light SpectrumLight SpectrumRedRedBlueBlue

Compressed (blue side) Stretched (red side)

UVUV IRIR

Redshift of StarlightRedshift of Starlight

Redshifts are used to describe the expansion of the universe – the distance of a galaxy from the earth due to the stretching of the light waves.

Hubble’s DiscoveryHubble’s Discovery

Hubble RefinedHubble Refined

RedBlue

Redshift InterpretationRedshift Interpretation

We should observe redshifts at all distances along the light spectrum (big bang model)

Galaxy 1

Galaxy 2

Galaxy 3

Redshift ValuesRedshift Values

Big bang model predicts a homogeneous universe

Big bang model predicts a homogeneous universe

BlueBlue RedRed

Blue Red

Distinct quanta (1-million light year intervals)Distinct quanta (1-million light year intervals)

What we observe

Hubble LawHubble Law

RedshiftsRedshifts

“Astronomers have confirmed that numerical values of galaxy redshifts are ‘quantized’, tending to fall into distinct groups. …

That would mean the galaxies tend to be grouped into (conceptual) spherical shells concentric around our home galaxy.”

“Astronomers have confirmed that numerical values of galaxy redshifts are ‘quantized’, tending to fall into distinct groups. …

That would mean the galaxies tend to be grouped into (conceptual) spherical shells concentric around our home galaxy.”

Russell Humphreys, Ph.D. Physics, Technical Journal, 2002

Russell Humphreys, Ph.D. Physics, Technical Journal, 2002

Implications of Quantized RedshiftsImplications of Quantized Redshifts

“…the quantized distribution of galactic red shifts, observed by various astronomers seems to contradict the Copernican principle and all cosmologies founded on it – including the big bang.”

“…the quantized distribution of galactic red shifts, observed by various astronomers seems to contradict the Copernican principle and all cosmologies founded on it – including the big bang.”

Russell Humphreys, Ph.D. Physics, Starlight and Time, 1994, p. 128.

Russell Humphreys, Ph.D. Physics, Starlight and Time, 1994, p. 128.

Redshifts and Galaxy DistancesRedshifts and Galaxy Distances

Concentric circles 1-million light years apart

Concentric circles 1-million light years apart

Milky WayMilky Way

Has this been confirmed and what does it mean?Has this been confirmed and what does it mean?

Confirmation of Quantized RedshiftsConfirmation of Quantized Redshifts

“There is now very firm evidence that redshifts of galaxies are quantized …”“There is now very firm evidence that redshifts of galaxies are quantized …”

W. G. Tifft and W. J. Cocke, Global redshift quantization, Astrophysical Journal, 1984.W. G. Tifft and W. J. Cocke, Global redshift quantization, Astrophysical Journal, 1984.

Redshift AnalysisRedshift Analysis

Confirmation from HubbleConfirmation from Hubble

“… the redshift distribution has been found to be strongly quantized in the galactocentric frame of reference.”

“… the redshift distribution has been found to be strongly quantized in the galactocentric frame of reference.”

W. Napier and B. Guthrie, Quantized redshifts: a status report, Journal Astrophysics and Astronomy, 1997.W. Napier and B. Guthrie, Quantized redshifts: a status report, Journal Astrophysics and Astronomy, 1997.

What does this mean to the big bang?

A Special PlaceA Special Place

“Newly published data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS), led by Max Tegmark of the University of Pennsylvania, shows that our galaxy is centered on a great concentric distribution of galaxies…

“Newly published data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS), led by Max Tegmark of the University of Pennsylvania, shows that our galaxy is centered on a great concentric distribution of galaxies…

John Hartnett (Ph.D. Physics), Journal of Creation, vol 18(1), 2004, p. 9.John Hartnett (Ph.D. Physics), Journal of Creation, vol 18(1), 2004, p. 9.

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If this map is correct, the evidence seems to suggest that the so-called ‘cosmological principle’, upon which all of big bang cosmology is based is wrong.”

If this map is correct, the evidence seems to suggest that the so-called ‘cosmological principle’, upon which all of big bang cosmology is based is wrong.”

John Hartnett (Ph.D. Physics), Journal of Creation, vol 18(1), 2004, p. 9.John Hartnett (Ph.D. Physics), Journal of Creation, vol 18(1), 2004, p. 9.

Halton ArpHalton Arp Key actor in the debate on the

origin and evolution of galaxies in the universe.

Staff astronomer at the Mt Wilson and Palomar Observatories in California for 29 years. Earlier in his career, he was Edwin Hubble's assistant. 

He has earned the Helen B.Warner prize, the Newcomb Cleveland award and the Alexander von Humboldt Senior Scientist Award. 

Key actor in the debate on the origin and evolution of galaxies in the universe.

Staff astronomer at the Mt Wilson and Palomar Observatories in California for 29 years. Earlier in his career, he was Edwin Hubble's assistant. 

He has earned the Helen B.Warner prize, the Newcomb Cleveland award and the Alexander von Humboldt Senior Scientist Award. 

Quasars and GalaxiesQuasars and GalaxiesQuasar (Markarian 205)Galaxy NGC 4319

Halton Arp on RedshiftHalton Arp on Redshift

“The fact that measured values of redshift do not vary continuously but come in steps—certain preferred values—is so unexpected that conventional astronomy has never been able to accept it, in spite of the overwhelming observational evidence.”...

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“The fact that measured values of redshift do not vary continuously but come in steps—certain preferred values—is so unexpected that conventional astronomy has never been able to accept it, in spite of the overwhelming observational evidence.”...

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Halton Arp Quasars, Redshifts and Controversies, Interstellar Media, Berkeley, California, 1987.

Halton Arp Quasars, Redshifts and Controversies, Interstellar Media, Berkeley, California, 1987.

Halton Arp on RedshiftHalton Arp on Redshift

“For supposed recession velocities of quasars, to measure equal steps in all directions in the sky means we are at the centre of a series of explosions. This is an anti-Copernican embarrassment.”

“For supposed recession velocities of quasars, to measure equal steps in all directions in the sky means we are at the centre of a series of explosions. This is an anti-Copernican embarrassment.”

A New Big Bang BombshellA New Big Bang Bombshell

An open letter to the scientific community by 229 scientists, May 2004

An open letter to the scientific community by 229 scientists, May 2004

New Scientist, www.cosmologystatement.orgNew Scientist, www.cosmologystatement.org

An open exchange of ideas is not tolerated

The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical entities, things we have never observed

An open exchange of ideas is not tolerated

The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical entities, things we have never observed

In no other field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical objects be accepted

The big bang can boast of no quantitative predictions that have been validated by observation

In no other field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical objects be accepted

The big bang can boast of no quantitative predictions that have been validated by observation

The big bang theory cannot survive without fudge factors

The big bang theory cannot survive without fudge factors

Evidence Against the Big BangEvidence Against the Big Bang

Redshift Cosmic Background Radiation Galaxy formation Spiral Galaxies Supernova Remnants (SNR) Distribution of galaxies 1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics Medium and heavy elements Star formation

Redshift Cosmic Background Radiation Galaxy formation Spiral Galaxies Supernova Remnants (SNR) Distribution of galaxies 1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics Medium and heavy elements Star formation

The meaning of “very good” in Genesis 1:31 Death before sin The Genesis Flood was not worldwide Colossians 1:16 “all” does not mean all

things What do the heavens declare: God or

evolution? The authority of Scripture

The meaning of “very good” in Genesis 1:31 Death before sin The Genesis Flood was not worldwide Colossians 1:16 “all” does not mean all

things What do the heavens declare: God or

evolution? The authority of Scripture

God’s creation was not 6-days God’s creation was not 6-days

Implications of the Big BangImplications of the Big Bang

Big Bang vs. The Bible

Big Bang vs. The Bible