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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG ‘Working together’ How the RIPE NCC and the RIPE community can have a productive relationship with LEA

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Page 1: ‘Working together’ How the RIPE NCC and the RIPE community ... · So why the RIPE Database ... - IP addresses, AS Numbers - Contact information - Reverse DNS delegations - Routing

RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG

‘Working together’ How the RIPE NCC and the RIPE community can have a productive relationship with

LEA

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Now, the RIRs communities include LEAs, Governments and Regulators, we should embrace it, not fight it

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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 3

Why are we here

• We have been dealing with LEA since 2008 when they reached out to us

• They wanted to understand what we did and how we do it

• Since then we have had many interactions with LEA, Governments and regulators all over our service region

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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 4

So why did they?

• What is the RIPE data base

• What information does it have that MAY be useful to LEA

• Training/Webinars on how to access that information

• Workshops on the understanding of how the internet works - transport layer

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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 5

So why the RIPE Database

• Public Internet resource and routing registry database

- IP addresses, AS Numbers

- Contact information

- Reverse DNS delegations

- Routing policies

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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 6

Non-Public Data

• Only provided if a Dutch court order or other legally binding order is presented by a Dutch LEA

• LEAs and other organisations operating outside of the Netherlands are required to follow the mutual legal assistance treaties (MLAT) procedures

• The RIPE NCC will evaluate each order

• If an order is considered illegal or of a non-obligatory nature, the RIPE NCC will not comply and challenge it

https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-588

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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 7

LEA Request to the RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 8

Since then • Signed an MOU with Europol Dec 2017

• Member of the EC3 AG - Communications

• Member of Interpol’s Global Cybercrime Expert Group

• Follow all discussions from the PSWG

• We are used as centre of excellence on issues regarding IP addresses, CGN discussions for example

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The Internet Number Registries

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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 10

Quality of the Registration Data

• RIPE NCC does controls - Before the registration - After the registration

• Through contractual relationships - Between the RIPE NCC and the LIRs

• Verifying compliance with RIPE policies

• Performing audits, Assisted Registry Check (ARCs)

• Changes must be supported with documentation

https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-657

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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 11

PDP 02-2017

The goal of this proposal is to give the RIPE NCC a mandate to regularly validate "abuse-c:" information and to follow up in cases where the attribute is deemed to be incorrect.

https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/current-proposals/current-policy-proposals

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RIPE NCC | 25 February | Cooperation SIG 12

Timeline

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Thank you