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Are you a Are you a

SecuSecularistlarist??(The person in left was described by the right as secularist. If any of them is a secularist, I am not

a secularist! This presentation has been in repeated circulation. I modified same with my observations. Modifications are in brackets.)

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Then please answer these questionsThen please answer these questions for yourselffor yourself

(This statement is a psychological trap. It presumes I said (This statement is a psychological trap. It presumes I said “secularist” to the first question. Why answer myself? I “secularist” to the first question. Why answer myself? I wish to tell my answers to all. Let everyone realize the wish to tell my answers to all. Let everyone realize the

facts)facts)

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There are nearlyThere are nearly 5252 MuslimMuslim countries.countries.

(only 24 countries declared as Islamic states not 52!)(only 24 countries declared as Islamic states not 52!)

Show oneShow one MuslimMuslim countrycountry which provideswhich provides HajHaj

subsidy.subsidy.(Unfortunately Govt got into the trap in 1970 in a (Unfortunately Govt got into the trap in 1970 in a hurry to protect sudden increase in fares due to hurry to protect sudden increase in fares due to

rise in oil price and is unable to get out in view of rise in oil price and is unable to get out in view of losing popularity. I wish NDA should have reversed losing popularity. I wish NDA should have reversed

it!)it!)

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Show oneShow one MuslimMuslim country country wherewhere Hindus Hindus are extended are extended

the specialthe special rights thatrights that MuslimsMuslims are accorded inare accorded in

India?India?

(Why do you want Hindus be given such privileges? Are (Why do you want Hindus be given such privileges? Are our Muslims given special rights for a favor in return from our Muslims given special rights for a favor in return from other Muslim countries to Hindus? Remember they don’t other Muslim countries to Hindus? Remember they don’t give any privilege even to Indian Muslims. In fact Shi’as give any privilege even to Indian Muslims. In fact Shi’as and Sunnis do not give any respect or privileges to each and Sunnis do not give any respect or privileges to each others. Hindus have their own character and Hinduism others. Hindus have their own character and Hinduism

preaches non-aggression and tolerance. Let us not learn preaches non-aggression and tolerance. Let us not learn from Muslims what we Hindus should be. Lest we may from Muslims what we Hindus should be. Lest we may become Muslims! Be a Hindu and be proud of being become Muslims! Be a Hindu and be proud of being

Hindu. Always copy / learn from a better people not from Hindu. Always copy / learn from a better people not from worst.worst.

The social and financial status of Indians (migrated The social and financial status of Indians (migrated Hindus) in other countries is not comparable to Indian Hindus) in other countries is not comparable to Indian born Muslims. Do not compare with Pakistan . It is a born Muslims. Do not compare with Pakistan . It is a

failed country.)failed country.)

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Show one country Show one country where thewhere the 85% 85%

majority craves for majority craves for the indulgence ofthe indulgence of thethe

15%15% minority.minority.

(Things would have been different if 85% crave for (Things would have been different if 85% crave for 15%. But good lot of Hindus are divided by some 15%. But good lot of Hindus are divided by some Hindu fundamentalist parties forcing every other Hindu fundamentalist parties forcing every other

group to woo 15% to their side. Advantage group to woo 15% to their side. Advantage Muslims! Hence they get better deal here than Muslims! Hence they get better deal here than

those in Islamic Pakistan!!!)those in Islamic Pakistan!!!)

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Show oneShow one MuslimMuslim country, whichcountry, which has a Non-has a Non-Muslim as itsMuslim as its PresidentPresident or or

Prime Minister.Prime Minister.

(Will we gain any out of that? Show me o ne country that (Will we gain any out of that? Show me o ne country that has 15% of another religious born population. We are has 15% of another religious born population. We are talking as if we elected a Imam to president post? Can talking as if we elected a Imam to president post? Can you tell one reason why we never elected a Muslim as you tell one reason why we never elected a Muslim as

Prime Minister. Prime Minister. There is one exception where a Hindu fundamentalist There is one exception where a Hindu fundamentalist party in power wanted to woo Muslims by selecting a party in power wanted to woo Muslims by selecting a

Muslim as President!)Muslim as President!)

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Show oneShow one MullahMullah or or MaulviMaulvi who haswho has

declared adeclared a 'fatwa' 'fatwa' againstagainst terrorists.terrorists.

( Yes we can’t find. They didn’t do it even in Pakistan ( Yes we can’t find. They didn’t do it even in Pakistan when their people were killed. May be they are afraid that when their people were killed. May be they are afraid that they would be first targeted by terrorists! Mullahs know they would be first targeted by terrorists! Mullahs know very well that terrorist have no religion except they use very well that terrorist have no religion except they use

the name of religion and also they have no respect or soft the name of religion and also they have no respect or soft corner to Mullahs.)corner to Mullahs.)

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HinduHindu-majority -majority Maharashtra, Bihar,Maharashtra, Bihar,

Kerala, Pondicherry , etc. Kerala, Pondicherry , etc. have in thehave in the past electedpast elected

MuslimsMuslims as as CM’sCM’s, ….., …..Can Can you ever imagine ayou ever imagine a

Hindu Hindu becomingbecoming thethe CMCM of of MuslimMuslim - majority- majority J&KJ&K??

( You are quoting past in four states. We have elected ( You are quoting past in four states. We have elected Muslims as CMs not because of their religion. They were Muslims as CMs not because of their religion. They were

democratic choice. If not we should have 15% Muslim CMs democratic choice. If not we should have 15% Muslim CMs at any given time. Why quote only handful of states? Why at any given time. Why quote only handful of states? Why

other states did not elect Muslims as their CMs at least one other states did not elect Muslims as their CMs at least one in 60 years? Is it because of Hindu prejudice? Nope! in 60 years? Is it because of Hindu prejudice? Nope!

Democracy did not produce a Muslim CM in the remaining Democracy did not produce a Muslim CM in the remaining states. Finally what is suggested above should we ask for states. Finally what is suggested above should we ask for Hindu CM in J&K or should we bar Muslim as CM in other Hindu CM in J&K or should we bar Muslim as CM in other

states?)states?)

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In 1947, when India was partitioned, In 1947, when India was partitioned, the the HinduHindu population in population in PakistanPakistan was was about about 24% ….24% ….Today it is not even Today it is not even 1%.1%. In 1947, the In 1947, the Hindu Hindu population inpopulation in East East PakistanPakistan (now Bangladesh) was (now Bangladesh) was 30% 30%

….…. Today it is about Today it is about 7%.7%. What happened to the missing What happened to the missing

Hindus?Hindus? Do Do HindusHindus have human rights? have human rights?

(About 7 million Hindus migrated to India and 7 million (About 7 million Hindus migrated to India and 7 million Muslims migrated to Pakistan. They drove Hindus and we Muslims migrated to Pakistan. They drove Hindus and we

drove Muslims! That means almost all Hindus returned. The drove Muslims! That means almost all Hindus returned. The left over even now is less than 1%. Then whom are you left over even now is less than 1%. Then whom are you

referring as missing Hindus. Just after partition was made referring as missing Hindus. Just after partition was made there were attachs on Hindus. Some Hindu patriot must there were attachs on Hindus. Some Hindu patriot must have stayed back and protected Hindus there. When all have stayed back and protected Hindus there. When all were running away by carts and trains sri Advani took were running away by carts and trains sri Advani took

flight to India! )flight to India! )

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In contrast, in In contrast, in IndiaIndia, , MuslimMuslim population has gone up from population has gone up from 10.4%10.4% in 1951 to about in 1951 to about 14%14%

today; today;

……whereas whereas HinduHindu population has population has come down from come down from 87.2%87.2% in 1951 in 1951

to to 85%85% in 1991. in 1991.

Do you still think that Do you still think that HindusHindus are fundamentalists? are fundamentalists?

(Worthy point. Yet this increase in 60 years does not (Worthy point. Yet this increase in 60 years does not warrant any panic. This happened because of birth warrant any panic. This happened because of birth

control policy. This control was exercised by educated control policy. This control was exercised by educated without much of religious bias. Most Muslims are without much of religious bias. Most Muslims are

uneducated and hence live in poverty! I have seen many uneducated and hence live in poverty! I have seen many educated Muslims going for birth control. Solution to this educated Muslims going for birth control. Solution to this

problem is making FP compulsory as done in China. problem is making FP compulsory as done in China. Muslims may not agree but will all Hindus agree? I wonder Muslims may not agree but will all Hindus agree? I wonder why NDA did not try this. They have been vocal on this FP why NDA did not try this. They have been vocal on this FP

policy.) policy.)

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In India todayIn India today Hindus Hindus areare 85%. 85%. IfIf Hindus Hindus areare

intolerant, how comeintolerant, how come MasjidsMasjids andand madrasasmadrasas are are

thriving? thriving? How comeHow come MuslimsMuslims are are

offeringoffering NamazNamaz on theon the road? road? How comeHow come MuslimsMuslims areare

proclaiming 5 times a day proclaiming 5 times a day on loudon loud speakers that there speakers that there

is no God exceptis no God except Allah?Allah? (None can say Hindus are intolerant. They are most tolerant (None can say Hindus are intolerant. They are most tolerant and most peace loving. This does not mean Nathuram Godse and most peace loving. This does not mean Nathuram Godse and followers of his philosophy are not Hindus. It does not say and followers of his philosophy are not Hindus. It does not say higher cast people who are doing atrocities on lower cast are higher cast people who are doing atrocities on lower cast are

not Hindus. Can anyone say Naxlites are not Hindus? There are not Hindus. Can anyone say Naxlites are not Hindus? There are always exceptions. We should admit that we have intolerants always exceptions. We should admit that we have intolerants and also terrorists among us. There are many Hindu temples and also terrorists among us. There are many Hindu temples still in Pakistyan. Let us not trigger them to demolish those still in Pakistyan. Let us not trigger them to demolish those

too.) too.)

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WhenWhen Hindus Hindus gave togave to MuslimsMuslims 30%30% of of BharatBharat for a for a

song, why shouldsong, why should

Hindus Hindus now beg for their now beg for their sacredsacred places atplaces at Ayodhya, Ayodhya,

MathuraMathura AndAnd Kashi?Kashi?(who gave what to whom? Please note 30% of Bharat got (who gave what to whom? Please note 30% of Bharat got

separated. Hindus did not own it. It belonged to the separated. Hindus did not own it. It belonged to the natives of that area! natives of that area!

And whom are you begging for Ayodhya, Mathura and And whom are you begging for Ayodhya, Mathura and Kashi? You want to reverse the history! Did Muslims Kashi? You want to reverse the history! Did Muslims

object for renovation of Somanath temple? Let us not join object for renovation of Somanath temple? Let us not join hands with those who want to drive a wedge for vote hands with those who want to drive a wedge for vote

catching. Did you not notice that the PM who silently got catching. Did you not notice that the PM who silently got Masjid demolished was dragged down by the Hindu Masjid demolished was dragged down by the Hindu

fundamentalists for the sake of power!) fundamentalists for the sake of power!)

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Why Why GandhijiGandhiji objected to the objected to the decision of the cabinet and decision of the cabinet and

insisted that insisted that Somnath TempleSomnath Temple should be reconstructed out of should be reconstructed out of public fund, not government public fund, not government funds. When in January 1948 funds. When in January 1948

hehe pressurized Nehru and pressurized Nehru and Patel to carry on renovation of Patel to carry on renovation of

the the MosquesMosques of Delhi at of Delhi at government expenses?government expenses?

(Until plebiscite in Feb 1948 Junaghad was not part of India. I (Until plebiscite in Feb 1948 Junaghad was not part of India. I wonder how Gandhiji who died in January is dragged in to wonder how Gandhiji who died in January is dragged in to

this controversy. Was such a decision taken at all by Nehru’s this controversy. Was such a decision taken at all by Nehru’s cabinet to reconstruct with public funds? In 1948 Gandhiji cabinet to reconstruct with public funds? In 1948 Gandhiji asked to remove the scars made by (tolerant and peace asked to remove the scars made by (tolerant and peace loving ) Hindus during partition riots. It was a penalty to loving ) Hindus during partition riots. It was a penalty to

Government for its inability to protect. But Somnath temple Government for its inability to protect. But Somnath temple was defaced by a uncultured Muslim invaders in history. Does was defaced by a uncultured Muslim invaders in history. Does anybody know why Somnath temple issue came up suddenly anybody know why Somnath temple issue came up suddenly

after several centuries. Why it was not reconstructed till after several centuries. Why it was not reconstructed till 1948, when Swaminarayan Mandir could be built in Junagadh 1948, when Swaminarayan Mandir could be built in Junagadh

in 1828)in 1828)

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Why Why Gandhi Gandhi supported supported KhilafatKhilafat Movement Movement (nothing (nothing

to do with our freedom to do with our freedom movement) and what in turn movement) and what in turn

he got?he got?

(By supporting Khilafat Movement, Congress won the (By supporting Khilafat Movement, Congress won the hearts of one sect of Muslims and they happily joined hearts of one sect of Muslims and they happily joined

freedom struggle. Muslim league dominated by other sect freedom struggle. Muslim league dominated by other sect did not join hands in Khilafat Movement and preferred to did not join hands in Khilafat Movement and preferred to be a puppet in the hands of British Raj. And please note be a puppet in the hands of British Raj. And please note neither Muslims got anything nor Hindus lost anything in neither Muslims got anything nor Hindus lost anything in

Khilafat Movement due to Gandhi’s support. Whereas Khilafat Movement due to Gandhi’s support. Whereas Hindu fundamentalists are trying to gain by exploiting Hindu fundamentalists are trying to gain by exploiting

this issue ) this issue )

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If If MuslimsMuslims & & ChristiansChristians are are minorities in Maharashtra, minorities in Maharashtra,

UP, Bihar etc., are UP, Bihar etc., are HindusHindus not not minorities in J&K, Mizoram, minorities in J&K, Mizoram,

Nagaland, Arunachal Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya etc? Pradesh, Meghalaya etc? Why are Why are HindusHindus denied denied minority rights in these minority rights in these

states? states?

(I really don’t get head or tail of this argument. If you (I really don’t get head or tail of this argument. If you start listing minorities state-wise soon demand will get start listing minorities state-wise soon demand will get

down to village-wise in the above states where Hindus are down to village-wise in the above states where Hindus are in minority!)in minority!)

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When When HajHaj pilgrims are given pilgrims are given subsidy, why subsidy, why HinduHindu pilgrims pilgrims to to Amarnath, SabarimalaiAmarnath, Sabarimalai & &

KailashKailash MansarovarMansarovar are are taxed? taxed?

(Please note pilgrims to Manasa Sarover do get subsidy. (Please note pilgrims to Manasa Sarover do get subsidy. Strictly speaking Hindus should get such a subsidy not Strictly speaking Hindus should get such a subsidy not

only to these four places to other many pilgrim centers in only to these four places to other many pilgrim centers in India and abroad. And also should extend this subsidy to India and abroad. And also should extend this subsidy to Sikhs to Nanakram in Pakistan, Christians to Vatican etc. I Sikhs to Nanakram in Pakistan, Christians to Vatican etc. I wonder, will such action justify subsidy to Haj pilgrims! wonder, will such action justify subsidy to Haj pilgrims!

Do you know who started this and when was it started? If Do you know who started this and when was it started? If you get this information, you will find a reason. AirIndia you get this information, you will find a reason. AirIndia charges more fare to Haj pilgrims than normal as it is a charges more fare to Haj pilgrims than normal as it is a charter flight instead of offering group concession! Do charter flight instead of offering group concession! Do

you know that several Muslims object to this subsidy as it you know that several Muslims object to this subsidy as it amounts to anti-Islamic dole. Regarding taxation, answer amounts to anti-Islamic dole. Regarding taxation, answer lies in knowing why pilgrims to Tirupathi, Varanasi etc are lies in knowing why pilgrims to Tirupathi, Varanasi etc are

not taxed. Don’t say it was religious bias and what is not taxed. Don’t say it was religious bias and what is charged is not tax.)charged is not tax.)

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When When ChristianChristian and and MuslimMuslim schools can teach schools can teach BibleBible and and

QuranQuran, ,

……. Why . Why HindusHindus cannot teach cannot teach GitaGita or or RamayanRamayan in our in our

schools?schools?

(There is no bar on such teachings in Hindu schools. In (There is no bar on such teachings in Hindu schools. In fact there are several schools doing that. ‘Our schools’ I fact there are several schools doing that. ‘Our schools’ I suppose you mean government schools or government suppose you mean government schools or government curriculum. Bible, Quran and Gita are not to be on state curriculum. Bible, Quran and Gita are not to be on state

curriculum. I wonder what it would be, if state starts curriculum. I wonder what it would be, if state starts giving Gita Bhashyam! This would be another version to giving Gita Bhashyam! This would be another version to

be added to available different versions of Gita be added to available different versions of Gita Bhashyam. Let Geeta have its sanctity.) Bhashyam. Let Geeta have its sanctity.)

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Do you admit that Do you admit that HindusHindus do do have problems that need to have problems that need to be recognized? Or do you be recognized? Or do you think that those who call think that those who call themselves themselves HindusHindus are are

themselves The problem?themselves The problem?

(Everyone has problems. Hindus can’t be an exception! Not only (Everyone has problems. Hindus can’t be an exception! Not only they should be recognized they should also be addressed. they should be recognized they should also be addressed.

However the major problem is with those who claim to be sole However the major problem is with those who claim to be sole representatives of Hindus. Shankarachryas, Jeeyer swamys etc representatives of Hindus. Shankarachryas, Jeeyer swamys etc who read and understood vedas are pushed aside by pseudo who read and understood vedas are pushed aside by pseudo Hindus & political leaders with no knowledge of vedas are the Hindus & political leaders with no knowledge of vedas are the

problem.)problem.)

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Why post - Why post - GodhraGodhra is blown is blown out of proportion, when no-out of proportion, when no-

one talks of theone talks of the ethnic cleansing of 4 lakh ethnic cleansing of 4 lakh

HindusHindus from from KashmirKashmir??

(Ethnic cleansing is issue of Jihadi terrorists. None gains (Ethnic cleansing is issue of Jihadi terrorists. None gains anything by blowing it out of proportion. Kashmir is an anything by blowing it out of proportion. Kashmir is an

issue of geography, history, religion and political. issue of geography, history, religion and political. Whereas post-Godhra is a political issue targeting one Whereas post-Godhra is a political issue targeting one

religious group for grabbing power in that state. No issue religious group for grabbing power in that state. No issue ever in this country can be comparable to that of ever in this country can be comparable to that of

Kashmir.) Kashmir.)

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Do you consider that - Do you consider that - SanskritSanskrit is is communal and communal and UrduUrdu is secular, is secular, MandirMandir is is

Communal and Communal and MasjidMasjid is Secular, is Secular, SadhuSadhu is is Communal and Communal and ImamImam is secular, is secular, BJPBJP is is

communal and communal and Muslim leagueMuslim league is Secular, is Secular, Dr.Praveen BhaiDr.Praveen Bhai

TogadiaTogadia is is ANTI-NATIONALANTI-NATIONAL and and BhukariBhukari is is Secular, Secular, VandeMatharamVandeMatharam is communal is communal

and and Allah-O-AkbarAllah-O-Akbar is secular, is secular, ShrimanShriman is is communal and communal and MianMian is secular, is secular, HinduismHinduism

is Communal and is Communal and Islam Islam is Secular, is Secular, HindutvaHindutva is is

communal and communal and JihadismJihadism is secular, and at is secular, and at last, last, BharatBharat is communal and is communal and ItalyItaly is is

Secular?Secular?(None says so. Why this question? Why add Bharat (BJP) and Italy (None says so. Why this question? Why add Bharat (BJP) and Italy

(Sonia’s congress party in the last paragraph?).)(Sonia’s congress party in the last paragraph?).)

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Why Why TempleTemple funds are spent funds are spent for the welfare of for the welfare of MuslimsMuslims and and Christians,Christians, when they when they

are free to spend their are free to spend their money in any way they like?money in any way they like?

(Although no such direct spending is quotable, Government control on (Although no such direct spending is quotable, Government control on temples is objectionable. Yet I find even the Hindu fundamentalists when temples is objectionable. Yet I find even the Hindu fundamentalists when

got power in center or states did not de-link Temple properties from got power in center or states did not de-link Temple properties from Government’s controls. Do you know why NDA at centre or BJP in states Government’s controls. Do you know why NDA at centre or BJP in states

did not do so? BJP does not propose this even in their manifesto! Let did not do so? BJP does not propose this even in their manifesto! Let Yeddurappa try it in Karnataka.) Yeddurappa try it in Karnataka.)

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When uniform is made When uniform is made compulsory for school compulsory for school

children, why there is no children, why there is no Uniform Civil CodeUniform Civil Code for for

citizens?citizens?(Is there any connection to school uniform and Uniform (Is there any connection to school uniform and Uniform

Civil Code? Do you want to drop demand for Uniform Civil Civil Code? Do you want to drop demand for Uniform Civil code if uniform is removed in schools! Uniform Civil Code code if uniform is removed in schools! Uniform Civil Code is a must for creating homogeneous society. I wonder will is a must for creating homogeneous society. I wonder will Uniform Civil Code create a homogeneous society in our Uniform Civil Code create a homogeneous society in our heterogeneous society or should we find a way of living heterogeneous society or should we find a way of living with it. If Uniform Civil Code is thrust, we may find many with it. If Uniform Civil Code is thrust, we may find many partitions in our country. Muslims may not be the only partitions in our country. Muslims may not be the only

obstructers of this Uniform Civil Code. Think why Hindu obstructers of this Uniform Civil Code. Think why Hindu fundamentalists did not talk about this when in power. fundamentalists did not talk about this when in power. By By saying Uniform civil code are we saying imposing Hindu saying Uniform civil code are we saying imposing Hindu code on all? If not tell me which civil codes will be picked code on all? If not tell me which civil codes will be picked up from Islam? Instead of UCC, it would be better to ask up from Islam? Instead of UCC, it would be better to ask

Muslims to opt for Muslim law , that prescribes lashing in Muslims to opt for Muslim law , that prescribes lashing in public, amputation etc.) public, amputation etc.)

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In what way, In what way, J&KJ&K is different is different from Maharashtra, from Maharashtra,

TamilNadu or UttarPradesh, TamilNadu or UttarPradesh, to have to have Article 370?Article 370?

(To know this we need to know Instrument of accession (To know this we need to know Instrument of accession that was executed between India and Maharaja of J&K. that was executed between India and Maharaja of J&K.

But Maharashtra, Tamilnadu, U.P etc were directly under But Maharashtra, Tamilnadu, U.P etc were directly under British Raj unlike J&K. We threw out Indira Gandhi out of British Raj unlike J&K. We threw out Indira Gandhi out of power without considering she diluted / nullified Article power without considering she diluted / nullified Article 370. Remember instead of scrapping this during their 370. Remember instead of scrapping this during their NDA government, Hindu fundamentalists have wooed NDA government, Hindu fundamentalists have wooed

Muslims by running bus service for Kashmiri Muslims to Muslims by running bus service for Kashmiri Muslims to travel to Pakistan. And they took pride that their PM travel to Pakistan. And they took pride that their PM

travelled in the first bus!)travelled in the first bus!)

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Abdul Rehman AntuleyAbdul Rehman Antuley was was made a trustee of the made a trustee of the famous famous Siddhi VinayakSiddhi Vinayak

TempleTemple in Prabhadevi, in Prabhadevi, Mumbai ….Can a Mumbai ….Can a Hindu Hindu - say - say

MulayamMulayam or or LalooLaloo – ever – ever become a trustee of a become a trustee of a MasjidMasjid

or or Madrasa?Madrasa?

(That says how much Antuley won the hearts of Hindus. (That says how much Antuley won the hearts of Hindus. You can not rule out the possibility of Mulayam or some You can not rule out the possibility of Mulayam or some

one else to take such a post, provided they don’t mind to one else to take such a post, provided they don’t mind to have the ire of Hindus.) have the ire of Hindus.)

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Dr. Praveen bhai TogadiaDr. Praveen bhai Togadia has has been arrested many times on been arrested many times on

flimsy grounds. flimsy grounds.

Has the Has the Shahi ImamShahi Imam of of Jama Jama MasjidMasjid, Delhi, , Delhi, Ahmed BhukariAhmed Bhukari been arrested for claiming to been arrested for claiming to

be an be an ISI agentISI agent and and advocating partition of advocating partition of

BharatBharat??(Who claims what ‘he is’ is not important. Whereas what (Who claims what ‘he is’ is not important. Whereas what

they are is important. Some will cause riots when jailed and they are is important. Some will cause riots when jailed and some will cause riots when not jailed. That decides who some will cause riots when not jailed. That decides who should be arrested. Are we not innocent enough not to should be arrested. Are we not innocent enough not to

understand why Bhukari claimed himself as ISI agent? Collect understand why Bhukari claimed himself as ISI agent? Collect some proofs, not his statement, and lodge a complaint in some proofs, not his statement, and lodge a complaint in

Delhi police station and see results.) Delhi police station and see results.)

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Can this happen anywhere, Can this happen anywhere, except in a except in a HINDU HINDU NATION - NATION -

BHARATHBHARATH??JAI HIND !!!JAI HIND !!!

(Yes this can happen, not in a Hindu Nation, but in this country. (Yes this can happen, not in a Hindu Nation, but in this country. And it happens not because of Muslims or Christians but And it happens not because of Muslims or Christians but

because of dubious and divisive behavior of Hindu because of dubious and divisive behavior of Hindu fundamentalists.)fundamentalists.)

A A MuslimMuslim President, A President, A Hindu Hindu Prime Minister and a Prime Minister and a

ChristianChristian Defence Minister Defence Minister run the affairs of the nation run the affairs of the nation

with a unity of purpose.with a unity of purpose.(If congress does it, it is called as wooing of minority votes. If BJP does (If congress does it, it is called as wooing of minority votes. If BJP does it, it is on unity purpose. Both do it to grab power and to retain power. it, it is on unity purpose. Both do it to grab power and to retain power.

What else is the reason for selecting a Christian for vital defence by BJP What else is the reason for selecting a Christian for vital defence by BJP lead NDA? Why even before disproving the Kargil allegations this lead NDA? Why even before disproving the Kargil allegations this

Christian Defence Minister was reinstated by our Hindu fundamentalists! Christian Defence Minister was reinstated by our Hindu fundamentalists! Same Hindu fundamentalists selected a Muslim to be our President. Do Same Hindu fundamentalists selected a Muslim to be our President. Do

you believe that he was treated as representative of Muslims of this you believe that he was treated as representative of Muslims of this country?) country?)

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Please forward it to as many Please forward it to as many Indians as possible.Indians as possible.(I wish this reply too to be forwarded)(I wish this reply too to be forwarded)

"Hinduism is not a religion it "Hinduism is not a religion it is a way of life.is a way of life.

-Swami VivekanandaSwami Vivekananda(Yet our Hindu fundamentalist call it a religion and (Yet our Hindu fundamentalist call it a religion and

compare it with other religions!)compare it with other religions!)

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This is not prepared This is not prepared by/for any political by/for any political

party/group party/group (shoulder searching)(shoulder searching)

… … these are the these are the observations & the observations & the

thoughts of thoughts of

a Citizen Of Indiaa Citizen Of India(at last after so much of hard work why lie like (at last after so much of hard work why lie like

this? Is this not dubious behavior of Hindu this? Is this not dubious behavior of Hindu fundamentalists?fundamentalists?

There are a lot more issues in this country that There are a lot more issues in this country that call our attention then why spread this religious call our attention then why spread this religious

hatred!)hatred!)

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What is said in it?What is said in it?

Under the banner ‘pseudo secularism’ this Under the banner ‘pseudo secularism’ this is being circulated for the past 3 years or is being circulated for the past 3 years or more.more.

It drives you to feel that things are bad on It drives you to feel that things are bad on Hinduism front in our country.Hinduism front in our country.

All the matter put herein is false or half All the matter put herein is false or half truth. truth.

Continuation of this will spoil our minds.Continuation of this will spoil our minds.

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My analysis on situation:My analysis on situation:

Nazi took Germany into their hands by slogan Nazi took Germany into their hands by slogan ‘return of German pride’. The country was ruined ‘return of German pride’. The country was ruined as Hitler was keen to have more countries under as Hitler was keen to have more countries under his flag. Pride did not return but enemy returned.his flag. Pride did not return but enemy returned.

Russia was taken over by Communists by the Russia was taken over by Communists by the slogan ‘equal rights & socialism’. The leaders slogan ‘equal rights & socialism’. The leaders were keen to spread communism to other were keen to spread communism to other countries. Life of people did not improve but countries. Life of people did not improve but poverty was equally distributed.poverty was equally distributed.

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The situation…The situation… Muslim league propagated that partition as Muslim league propagated that partition as

freedom from Hindus. They got Pakistan but the freedom from Hindus. They got Pakistan but the people there lost everything including freedom.people there lost everything including freedom.

Mao brought communist revolution to improve Mao brought communist revolution to improve lives of peasants and workers in China. He was lives of peasants and workers in China. He was keen on annexing other countries. Workers keen on annexing other countries. Workers became slaves and peasants lost their lands.became slaves and peasants lost their lands.

Islamists, talk of Jihad on Christians and Hindus, Islamists, talk of Jihad on Christians and Hindus, keep collecting money and ammunition. Now keep collecting money and ammunition. Now they kill their own men.they kill their own men.

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The situation…The situation…

How was it possible for those leaders to How was it possible for those leaders to drag people to wrong side?drag people to wrong side?

Did they have majority with them?Did they have majority with them? Not really! Only a few stupid and Not really! Only a few stupid and

hardcore fundamentalists got attracted hardcore fundamentalists got attracted to the emotional slogans and supported to the emotional slogans and supported them. them.

The remaining majority were silently The remaining majority were silently watching.watching.

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The resultThe result In all those cases control went In all those cases control went

into the hands of fascist / into the hands of fascist / fundamentalists / communists fundamentalists / communists etc., who never cared people etc., who never cared people and never respected public and never respected public

interestsinterests. .

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ConclusionConclusion

Never be silent spectator. Be careful while Never be silent spectator. Be careful while reading or listening not to get carried away by reading or listening not to get carried away by what is communicated. what is communicated.

StudyStudy

AnalyzeAnalyze

DiscussDiscuss

Understand Understand

Act judicially.Act judicially.