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    Has social media made politics more accessible? Or is it just another platform for party politics?

    Danny Saxby

    Applied Journalism Research

    Project

    Has social media made politics more

    accessible? Or is just another

    platform for party politics?

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    1. Introduction.

    Over recent months we have seen, in rather dramatic scenes, why it would be folly to disregard such

    tools as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube as mere fads. The Obama campaign revolutionised the use ofsocial media as a political tool. Two Parliamentary candidates have been sacked because of their use of

    twitter, and huge viral campaigns seem to burst into life through facebook and twitter. Often breaking

    into the tabloid press and television.

    Whilst this research is intended to examine the effect of social media upon political debate it is worth

    explaining why the majority of the word count has been set aside for one social media website in

    particular. Twitter is a relatively new and basic medium for communication. And on first inspection itseems, almost in every aspect, to be fundamentally unfit for the purpose of intellectual debate. Users

    are restricted to only 140 characters per tweet, seriously limiting ones capacity for vigorous

    discussion. The majority of the twitter community are younger people, to whom politics is a redundant

    concept that does not require their input.

    Yet despite its obvious flaws the BBCs Question Time, The Daily Politics and This Week, have also

    jumped aboard the Twitter bandwagon. It is likely that the motivation for this originates in the younger

    demographic of the behind the scenes production staff. But nonetheless it is of importance.

    2. Literature Review

    Due to the nature of the subject finding literature that is both up to date and relevant is difficult. There

    are many books which discuss the wider issues of politics and the internet, not so many discussing

    social media. Books such as theRoutledge Handbook of Internet Politics (2009) andInternet Politics

    (2006) discuss many of the issues around how formal politics has adapted in the internet age. Both

    books discuss the potential of the internet to take politics out of the hands of elites and to widen

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    Debates and Question Time. Both journals found that twitter lends itself to reactionary opinion driven

    discussion rather than in-depth debate. However, Anstead and OLoughlin (2010) did find that just

    over 40% of all tweets around Nick Griffins appearance on Question Time were interactive, suggesting

    a sharing of ideas and opinion.

    3. Methodology

    This piece of research uses both quantitative data collection and qualitative data analysis in order to

    fully understand a relatively new field of study; how are our politicians are using social media.

    For a duration of seven days from 18th

    January 2010 until 24th

    January 2010 I recorded each Tweet

    broadcast by every Member of Parliament on Twitter, of whom there were 107 (see appendix I) at that

    time. Each Tweet was categorised into one of the following;

    Party Political An attack on another democratic party or individual associated with

    another democratic party or view.

    Party Rhetoric Hyperbole involving the party of the author.

    Party Policy An attempt to promote or discuss party policy.

    Minutiae Insubstantial utterances of the authors daily life and routine. For example the

    contents of their lunch or waiting for a train.

    News Comments on a news event/story.

    Blog Advertising their blog.

    Constituency Comments regarding the authors constituency.

    Parliamentary Anything involving Parliamentary business.

    Other Tweets which have an unclear topic or subject and are therefore cannot be

    categorised.

    Each Tweet can only be allocated to one category, so for those Tweets that could be placed into more

    than one category I ensured that they were placed into the most salient category, and that this action

    remained consistent throughout the data collection process.

    As well as recording the contents of the Tweets, the following types of Tweet were also recorded;

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    Data analysis is then used to come to comprehensive conclusions. Expert interviews were also used for

    this purpose, although they were difficult to secure because of the timing of 2010 General Election.

    4. How our politicians use Twitter.

    The following graph shows the break down of MPs on Twitter by their party affiliations.

    What is noticeable is that the Labour party has over 60% of the twittering MPs. Therefore we would

    expect to see, in further data analysis, that the Labour party output, as a percentage of the total output

    by all the MPs, would be around 60% also. However the Labour MPs far overreach this. As the

    following charts show, Labour MPs dominate Twitter in relation to interaction.

    Links by Party

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    Number of MP's using Twitter

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    73% of all links posted over the seven days came from Labour MPs. This is important to note because

    twitters 140 character limit can be a severe restriction.

    Therefore the use of links as a means of sharing ideas and alerting people to commentary and debates

    is essential in order to ensure depth and quality of discussion.

    Retweeting the process of publishing other peoples tweets to your followers, with attribution to the

    original author is another important way of communicating ideas.

    Once again it is the Labour party which dominates, with 92% of the retweets over the seven days

    coming from Labour MPs.

    Replies are a way of directing tweets at other users by using their @-prefixed username. This can be in

    order to conduct a conversation, to mention another user for example, I have been canvassing today

    with @JohnSmith - or to direct a tweet to another users attention. For example, @JohnSmith you

    might find this link interesting.

    RT's by Party

    6%

    92%

    2%

    Conser vat iv e Labour Lib Dem

    Replies by Party

    3%7%

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    This chart shows that over the seven days 90% of the replies came from Labour MPs. What these

    three charts show is that, whilst they make up just over 60% of the MPs on twitter, the Labour MPs

    are producing between 70%-90% of the interactivity on twitter. So it is the Labour Members of

    Parliament who are interacting most with their followers. Andrew Walker, co-founder of Tweetminster,

    a website which collates politicians tweets, comments;

    Labour have less of a strong central message going out through social media, but they have a

    lot more activists out there tweeting and retweeting. The Lib Dems are pretty even handed,

    theyve got some great bloggers and theyve got a fairly active party stream but there arent

    that many of them by volume so I guess thats why they dont feature heavily in the numbers.(Andrew Walker, 2010)

    What is also clear is that, although many of the tweets from the dataset fall into the parliamentary

    and constituency categories, a large amount concerns party political statements and party rhetoric. As

    the following graph shows.

    This would suggest that, although politicians recognise the need to be accountable and accessible

    about what they are doing in Parliament and addressing local constituency issues, they are using the

    Tweets

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    content of the link, and therefore the tweet is without meaning. That isnt to say that the other

    category should be ignored as merely a collection of redundant tweets to which a category cannot be

    assigned. What it indicates is, not just a lack of general understanding of the medium, but also an

    underlying superficiality. Shane Greer, executive editor of Total Politics magazine, surmises;

    The short format encourages simplification. But ultimately, thats what political campaigns

    are about. Theyre not about substantive discussion, theyre about condensing a message.

    (Shane Greer, 2010)

    Another important element of social media, aside from content and interaction, is audience. Twitter

    allows users to see other users tweets by following them. The five most followed MPs (as of 18th

    January 2010) are as follows;

    MP Followers

    John Prescott 15,379

    David Milliband 9,243

    Nick Clegg 8,512

    Tom Watson 7,851Grant Schapps 7,383

    The mechanics of twitter are such that, essentially, an audience must be earned, and that audience will

    be drawn towards you because of the subject matter and content of your tweets;

    if you follow the right people and they supply the right content then youre more likely to

    enjoy the stuff theyre giving to you. Its a self-selecting mechanism, you know, youre filtering

    through people whose opinion you trust(Andrew Walker, 2010)

    For MPs without name recognition they have to build up that audience through posting good quality

    content, it can therefore be concluded that a high level of followers is recognition of a good use of the

    medium.

    Theoretically the politicians with most followers have the most influence on twitter as they have the

    largest audiences. But the audience is not necessarily passive, they have the potential to be active. So

    perhaps it would be wiser to think of those Members of Parliament who interact most with their

    audience as more influential. As the table below shows, the most interactive MPs are, once again, all

    Labour;

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    people is advantageous, but that does that mean that, through retweeting, those with less followers

    cannot reach an audience beyond what is immediately available to them.

    However, those MPs who do take a more interactive approach, may well find twitter a much more

    valuable resource. Many politicians are using twitter as a broadcast medium when, through interaction

    with others, twitters allows for a measuring of the public mood, to see which issues are really worrying

    people and for what reasons (Andrew Walker, 2010). For example;

    The Digital Economy Bill, its been huge on twitter and none of the campaigns have referenced

    it, I havent seen Brown or Cameron or Clegg or any of the senior party figures on the TV

    talking about this bill, which is, potentially, going to be limiting peoples broadband access

    hardly any MPs have leveraged that to make their campaign more effective, to reach out

    there. And that is the problem youve got thousands and thousands of people screaming

    about an issue in the public, right in the public eye, in a very public medium. And actually, its

    reaching out and reaching the press in other countries its so big. And yet here in the UK the

    politicians arent doing that, theyre pushing out oh check out my manifesto

    (Andrew Walkers, 2010)

    Although the data analysis shows that it is Labour MPs who appear to be the most interactive we must

    remember that there are individuals from the other parties who also interact with their audiences;

    I would say, taking a step back from that, it is very much about the individual. Lynne

    Featherstone for the Lib Dems, Jo Swinson for the Lib Dems, outstanding in terms of how they

    tweet and blog. Compared with Douglas Carswell, whos active with his tweeting, but he never

    replies to people.

    (Andrew Walker, 2010)

    The table below clearly shows that, although the Conservative MP Douglas Carswell is using twitter as

    a tool for advertising his blog, he isnt then interacting with his followers. He is using it purely as a

    broadcast medium. Where as Lynne Featherstone and Jo Swinson demonstrate a better use of the tool,

    as a means of interaction as well as directing traffic.

    Douglas Carswell Lynne Featherstone Jo Swinson

    Blog Replies Blog Replies Blog Replies

    Monday 1 0 2 0 0 0

    Tuesday 1 0 2 0 0 0

    Wednesday 1 0 2 1 0 0

    Thursday 1 0 3 1 0 0

    Friday 0 0 2 2 1 0

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    Theyve [the other candidates] gone for a kind of candidature approach to social networking

    and, you know, thats ok, that works with someone with the face recognition of Michael Foster,

    the sitting MP I thought, well, how do we tap peoples enthusiasm for social networking in

    a way which isnt going to be a real turn-off. And what I decided to do was to try and get it to

    help the campaign I was running, rather than getting people to say, oh Nick Perry, I want to be

    his fan, or whatever.

    (Nick Perry, 2010)

    Nick Perry has set-up facebook groups concerning parking charges at the local hospital, and the future

    of the local fishing fleet which is under threat due to fishing quotas. Both are key issues in the

    constituency he is campaigning in and both of these groups have around thirteen hundred members

    (Nick Perry, 2010).

    Facebook is a very different social media tool, connections between users are symmetrical and so there

    is instantly a two-way conversation. This may be of more use to politicians wishing to reach a mass

    audience. And, because of the type of content people put onto their facebook profiles, it is much easier

    to target people (Walker, 2010).

    There is often an argument as to whether twitter can be regarded as part of the public sphere, a new

    place for people o debate and engage with issues. And perhaps, while twitter is not a new public

    sphere in itself, it could be said to be an extension of the existing public sphere;

    a public sphere that has democratic significance must be a forum, that is, a social space in

    which speakers may express their views to others and who in turn respond to them and raise

    their own concerns.

    (After Habermas,2005, p.133)

    This central tenet, a public forum on which views and ideas can be shared and argued between users, is

    the basic function of twitter.

    And as a compliment to the existing public sphere, of broadcast and print journalism, twitter is proving

    to be a useful bolt-on. Before twitter, Question Time Viewers could text in their comments, and other

    Question Time viewers could see those comments by using ceefax. Now, using twitter, not only can

    other viewers see the comments, but they can reply to them and start a debate, or retweet in agreement,

    after which someone else might come back with a reply. This has created a whole new level of

    interaction around political events, not just like Question Time and the Prime Ministerial Debates, but

    also around breaking news, press conferences and Parliamentary business. This is an instantaneous

    commentary;

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    some evidence of debate topics being discussed, the communication was more so

    reactionary and evaluative. For example, the most frequent term during the opening segment

    from twitter was drinking we assume people were inventing drinking games to play along

    with the debate. Later in the debates we see terms like -5 or +2 becoming salient where

    people were keeping score on which candidate won which point.

    (Churchill, Kennedy & Shamma, 2009, p.6)

    Once again, we can conclude from this analysis, that twitter is not a tool for in-depth debate. But, its

    power lies in being able to tap into a huge, instant, reaction to live events. Yes, that reaction may be

    superficial, low level opinion, but it does allow you to see what people think.

    In their academic journal, The Emerging Viewertariat: Explaining Twitter Responses to Nick Griffins

    Appearance on BBC Question Time (2010), Nick Anstead and Ben OLoughlin observe that,

    throughout the duration of the programme, a total of 55,962 tweets were published which, in some

    way, were related to Question Time; of which 26.76% were replies and 15.81% were retweets (Anstead

    & OLoughlin, 2010). From this they conclude;

    that interaction through real time digital technology such as microblogging will

    increasingly be combined with more traditional modes of media consumption to create new

    dynamics and modes of participation among citizens. Second, these forms of real time

    participation in political events present an opportunity to explore individuals political relations,

    understandings and motivations.

    (Anstead & OLoughlin, 2010)

    But this still doesnt address the question of engaging a new audience with politics. Bill Thompson, a

    journalist who regularly blogs on technology and social media, declares;

    I dont think twitter will really do much for engagement. Those who tweet and arent interested

    in politics will ignore it, or stop following those who do engage.

    (Bill Thompson, 2010)

    Of course there will be people with views which reflect minority opinion, as Tweetminster observed

    during Nick Griffins Question Time appearance, where four tweets per second were being posted in

    connection with the event (Walker, 2010). People were agreeing with Nick Griffin, and perhaps they

    should have the freedom to do so, but they were in the minority. This egalitarian, level-playing field,

    perhaps makes twitter a very democratic place to discuss issues. And, as Andrew Walker observes,

    social media has a great ability to self-regulate;

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    6. Reactionary, Superficial and Shallow: Does Twitter

    encourage mob rule?

    Early last year a Danish psychology lecturer, Anders Colding-Jorgensen, conducted an experiment in

    an attempt to understand the psychology behind online viral campaigns. He tasked his students to

    create a facebook group, with the express intention of getting as many followers as possible. Anders

    also took part in the experiment himself, creating a group that protested at the alleged demolition of

    Copenhagens landmark stork fountain. The group reached 27,500 members in just three days.

    Fascinatingly, in the group forum, it was detailed that the group was in fact just an experiment and that

    the beloved fountain was not under threat. And so, through some basic interaction, people joining the

    group could discover that the cause was just an agent provocateur. What was found was that, although

    some people did notice this, their ability to tell others is severely limited. Anders Colding-Jorgensen

    surmises;

    The result was depressing: it was very difficult for these people to communicate to others that

    the group was not real. This was mainly because people didnt use the group for information,

    but as a badge, to communicate their support for the cause to themselves and others

    Some of them shared the group [with] friends or wrote a message on the wall, but very little

    of the wall posts were containing direct messages or containing questions directed at otherpeople. Instead of discussion, the wall contained almost the same 5-6 messages, repeated over

    and over again

    (Virkeligheden.dk, 2009)

    What was also noted was that, because of the rate of messages being posted (2-3 per minute), the few

    messages which did attempt to communicate the real motives behind the group were very quickly

    swamped by the repeated messages of shock and outrage at the supposed cause, and so, in further

    analysis, it is concluded that 75% of the people who joined the group actually believed the fountain

    was under threat. This illustrates that there is an element of superficiality to social media based viral

    campaigns. And that large numbers hamper the ability for discussion.

    The speed and the enormity of viral campaigns such as the We Love the NHS campaign where

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    It is assumed that these viral campaigns encourage a mob mentality. Illustrated recently by the anger

    surrounding Jon Venables after he was taken back into custody;

    There are hundreds of Venables-related groups on facebook, all hysterically shouting how he

    must be hung!, should rot in jail 4eva!, should die, die, die!. Ah, modern technology.

    Pros: iPods. Cons: Internet lynch mobs.

    (The Guardian, 2010)

    Anders Colding-Jorgensens facebook group experiment does prove that people arent always willing

    to interact with the cause or subject in any depth; its merely about associating yourself with that cause.

    And even more importantly, as the momentum builds behind a campaign there comes a tipping point

    where debate and reflection is almost impossible, as so many people are posting comments and

    messages that nobody can fully digest them or respond.

    It is clear that what must not happen is that a mass viral protest on twitter must not be mistaken as the

    debate. Rather, it is a basic recognition ofthe need for a debate, which must then cross over into the

    public-sphere where it can be deliberated in-depth and for a significant period of time.Michael Burke has described social media as the collapse of the culture of deference (Moral Maze,

    2010). Perhaps there has been a collapse in the culture of deference, though this shouldnt necessarily

    be treated as a negative thing. Neurobiologist Kenan Malik responded to Buerks assertion by stating

    that he is wary of the condemnation of twitter, for encouraging a mob rule mentality, because;

    those denunciations are all to often an elitist argument against the democratic process.

    (Moral Maze, 2010)

    This assumes that any opening up of political debate, however reactionary or superficial, is, on the

    whole, a good thing for society. After all, how many people discussing these issues in the local pub

    have paid any more attention to the detail? (Andrew Walker, 2010) In that sense we must assume that

    the collapse of the culture of deference is not because of social media but rather a reflection of society

    in general.

    The problem with social media is that it appears to represent a new public sphere for debate.

    Journalist Brendan ONeill warns;

    I am completely in favour of mass discussion and the public being genuinely involved in a

    serious debate about the future, about the world, about politics. But twitter, and blogging to a

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    And she may well have wished that they still didnt because within hours Conservative tweeters and

    bloggers had scoured Ellie Gellards tweet and blog archive, found a blog post where she called on the

    Prime Minister to stand down, and alerted the press. Several newspapers ran with the story, The Times

    even placing it on the front page;

    Ellie Gellard, 20, who blogs as the Stilettoed Socialist, told Mr Brown after a by-election

    defeat that it was time to get your coat and go. Yesterday she urged Labour to embrace the

    power of the Internet, but by mid-afternoon the party was ruing her use of social media and

    asking why no one had picked up on her remarks.

    (The Times, 2010, p.7)

    Andrew Keen highlights how social media has been used to attack political opponents, in a highly

    personal way, in the USA;

    During the November 2006 congressional elections, one of the most watched videos onYouTube was a campaign advertisement for Vernon Robinson, the Republican candidate for

    North Carolinas Thirteenth Congressional District. The video was a distasteful attack on Brad

    Miller, Robinsons Democratic opponent. Instead of spending money on cancer research, Brad

    Miller has spent your money to study the masturbation habits of old men the commercial

    announced.

    (Keen, 2007, p.66)

    Where as, only recently, platforms such as YouTube and facebook were being used as the tools to

    deliver attacks on individuals. Social media has now become a rich source of stories, potentially

    thousands of which lie waiting to be discovered, for traditional media.

    7. Conclusions.

    Data analysis clearly shows that the Labour party MPs have a more interactive approach to socialmedia though there are individuals from other parties who also do this well. This group could perhaps

    be described as an elite. They are highly familiarised with the platform, mostly from the Labour

    party, and though their following appears to be average it is most probably as indicated through the

    MPs own high-level of interaction an active, rather than passive, audience.

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    Twitter is perhaps best described as a collection of networks rather than a single entity (Moral Maze,

    2010). And twitters potential to bring people into political debate is centralised around events (Walker,

    2010), such as Question Time, which have the potential to bring together the Westminster network - of

    politicians, bloggers, activists and journalists and the majority who use twitter to connect with their

    own networks of likeminded people. However, as has been illustrated over recent weeks, social media

    cannot compete with power of television to broadcast a message to tens of millions of people. It is a

    complement to that; facilitating the sharing of ideas and opinion, anchored around a central theme or

    event, which non-partisan users can dip in and out of, and to which politicians can gauge opinion;

    Recent research has even indicated a stimulus effect on political participation when discussion

    among heterogeneous networks is combined with hard news media use.

    (Chadwick & Howard, 2009, p.145)

    And as more politicians and journalists join twitter it seems probable that a time will come when the

    risk of politicians saying something offensive such as former Labour PPC Stuart MacLennon

    (Guardian, 2010) - or not walking the party line, will become such that parties will either ban

    politicians from social media or heavily restrict its use. The Ministerial Code requires that all

    departmental announcements be cleared with Downing Street first (Ministerial Code, 2007), already

    limiting the spontaneity of social media somewhat, for cabinet and junior ministers. And so although

    social media has not yet come under the influence of the party machines in a centralised capacity. If

    politicians continue to abuse the tool this does seem inevitable. And as people realise that there is a

    partisan uniformity, in terms of content, people will be less and less engaged when they come into

    contact with politicians through social media.

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    Appendix.I. MPs on Twitter as of 18th January 2010

    Conservative

    Labour

    Lib Dem

    Plaid Cymru

    SNP

    Respect

    SDLP

    Adam Afriyie

    Adam Price

    Alison Seabeck

    Alistair Carmichael

    Andrew George

    Andrew Gwynne

    Andrew Rosindell

    Andrew Slaughter

    Andy Reed

    Angus Robertson

    Anne Snelgrove

    Ann Keen

    Ann Widdecombe

    Anthony D Wright

    Ben Bradshaw

    Celia Barlow

    Chris Bryant

    Christopher Huhne

    Crispin Blunt

    Danny Alexander

    Dari Taylor

    David Cairns

    David Chaytor

    David Drew

    Elliot Morley

    Eric Joyce

    Eric Pickles

    Frank Field

    George Galloway

    Gillian MerronGisela Stuart

    Graham Stuart

    Grant Shapps

    Greg Mulholland

    Harriett Harman

    Hazel Blears

    Hywel Williams

    Ian CawseyJames Brokenshire

    James Plaskitt

    James Purnell

    Jim Knight

    Jim Murphy

    John Denham

    John Prescott

    John SpellarJo Swinson

    Julia Goldsworthy

    Kerry McCarthy

    Kevin Brennan

    Lembit Opik

    Nadine Dorries

    Nicholas Clegg

    Norman Lamb

    Parmjit Dhanda

    Patrick McFadden

    Paul Clark

    Paul Rowen

    Pete Wishart

    Phil Willis

    Phyllis Starkey

    Sadiq Khan

    Sandra Gidley

    Sarah McCarthy-Fry

    Shahid MalikSion Simon

    Stephen McCabe

    Stephen Timms

    Steve Webb

    Susan Kramer

    Tessa Jowell

    Tim Farron

    Tom BrakeTom Harris

    Tom Levitt

    Tom Watson

    Vera Baird

    Vincent Cable

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    II. Face to face interview with Andrew Walker, Co-Founder of Tweeminster and founder of Thin

    Martian Digital Creative Agency.

    Thin Martian Offices, Cowper Street, Islington, London. Wednesday 14th April 2010.

    DS: Danny Saxby

    AW: Andrew Walker

    DS: Do you think Twitter is a good tool for getting through to those people who arent interested in

    politics? Because I think thats what the politicians think, theyre all going for it thinking, theres a load

    of people there and I can broadcast to them. But obviously, its not that simple.

    AW: No. Theres always this interesting argument between you know, theory versus reality. Theres

    that thing about aftershave, theory and reality. The theory of aftershave is that you splash it on your

    face and women come flocking out of the woodwork and you know, youre this fabulous dude. The

    reality is that you splash it on your face, go oohhh, and it really stings, and you walk around with a red

    face. And I think, taking that, with Twitter, especially with Twitter, but with social media in general,

    what I think politicians have got wrong is that they think; ok its a younger demographic, we know that

    its primarily, the most active group is sort of 25, sorry 24, to 35 age group. The fastest growing group

    is 36 to 54. And the 18 to 24 age group is very active. Young people are disinterested in politics,

    theres likely to be a low a turnout. So conventional wisdom would mean, hey if we go and use social

    media we will reach younger people. What theyve don wrong with that of course is the fact that all of

    our activity is tightly competed for. Your sharing your online time with your emails, with your mates

    on Facebook, downloading movies and tracks and as a result, you know, theyre not reaching those

    people because those people arent going to Twitter for their political fix. So yeah the theory is we can

    talk to the kids, but thats not going to work, but something else has happened thats more practical.

    Whats happened is this kind of organisation of, or collection, of influencers, which is very strong on

    Twitter. Its what Paul Staines, who runs the Guido Fawlkes blog, calls the Westminster Bubble.

    Youve got all the major journalists, columnists, editors, TV channels, mainstream media, pundits,

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    people than they did through the other media channels. Certainly everything thats said about

    competing for time as far as TV advertising, to posters, to radio, to the newspaper. I mean how many

    young people are going to pick-up the paper and go Im reading a leader by Peter Mandelson, or

    someone like that. Again its quite small numbers. So I think you can also say that within the audience

    they are reaching more younger people, getting more bang for their buck, than they would be

    otherwise. But, you know, I dont think theyre reaching a new audience. And the other thing of course

    is that I dont think theyre using the right way in trying to reach a new audience, thats the problem.

    Theyre broadcasting, as opposed to actually using it to engage with people. And I think thats a big

    challenge.

    DS: The thing about Twitter is that, unlike Facebook, if Im following you youre not necessarily

    following me, where as with Facebook the connection is symmetrical.

    AW: Yeah.

    DS: So do you think the mechanics of Twitter can be a boundary towards reaching people?

    AW: And also there is nothing worse, for a certain kind of user, to me certainly, you follow someone,

    you send them a few messages and if they dont follow you back, it breaks that connection, youre left

    less interested in what they have to say. And I found it very interesting, and at Tweetminster of course

    Im connected to loads of people whove got no idea who I am and if I send them messages from my

    private account theyve got no idea who I am, and so they dont respond. You start to see that people

    use Twitter for different tools. Sorry, getting back, youre right. With Facebook its more about

    relationships. With Twitter its less about relationships, a lot of the people I follow, I dont have any

    relationship with them and Ive no intention to. But Im interested in the link that they post. Thats

    probably one of the most interesting uses of Twitter. Its a bit like a search engine for things you dont

    know youre looking for. And certainly most people follow politicians and pundits and bloggers, less to

    talk with them and engage with them, more to see the link that theyre looking at. So my Twitter feed

    comes up, I might 20 or 30 links that during the course of the day are really interesting links that I

    havent had to go out and search for. And search engines arent delivering the same results, because

    there is so much data out there that they cant filter it fast enough Last week I was on holiday I wasnt

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    the UK it hasnt worked the same way, its much more about being able to tune into the pulse, you

    know, whats happening right now in current affairs? What can we do about it? And what should our

    position be? And I think politicians using it very effectively as a sort of opinion poll mechanism, thats,

    yeah,

    DS: So by following the right people youre filtering the right news towards you?

    AW: Exactly yeah, if you follow the right people and they supply the right content then youre more

    likely to enjoy the stuff theyre giving to you. Its a self-selecting mechanism; you know youre

    filtering through people whos opinion you trust, and thats what makes them influencers. If you look

    at the people who post links on bit.ly and you go to bit.ly and you see how many people have clicked

    on that link, you know, you will see that some of them, you know, if I posted a link I might a few

    people, I might a hundred people, click on it, look at it and say oh thats amazing, isnt that

    interesting. I have a social media start-up so I post something about usability or tech then Ive got

    people who are following me who are interested in that and Ive done a little bit of filtering with that

    there. If I tweet hey look at this, this is an amazing article about something to do with politics no ones

    that interested, if politicians tweet that you see a huge amount of clicks. So its not just about the

    filtering, its about people who are good at filtering different things. Youll probably follow geeks, like

    me I guess, if you want someone whos going to be following links about tech. Follow politicians and

    youll see stuff about politics. And bloggers and most people in-between, you know, will use it

    different things. Its a great search engine like that, and in a way thats how politicians should be using

    it more effectively, and not, you know, theyre pushing their message out there when its a really really

    important tool for actually measuring the pulse of where things are going and seeing where

    conversations are moving, seeing whats hot right now. Look at the Trafigura scandal, now thats a

    classic example of twitter being a great catalyst for something really exciting. Now Private Eye had

    already covered that story some weeks before, but its got a very small readership, it hasnt got out

    there, and the people who read Private Eye are the people who read Private Eye, you know. If youre

    every going to reach people in the states, as soon as enough people in the UK were talking about it it

    started trending and then the US kicked in and it turned into this massive thing. Jan Moir, here article

    about Stephen Gately, which is the other one which everyone always mentions. Again, massive

    activism which lasted 48 hours where everyone got pissed off about something and posted about it on

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    AW: Thats very interesting because I would kind of expected the Lib Dems to feature more heavily in

    that. Im not surprised how the Conservatives performed in these numbers. Because, what weve found

    with our analysis, is that the parties use the tools differently. Labour have less of a strong central

    message going out through social media, but they have a lot more activists out there tweeting and

    retweeting. The Lib Dems are pretty even handed, theyve got some great bloggers and theyve got a

    fairly active party stream but there arent really that many of them by volume so I guess thats why

    they dont feature heavily in the numbers. The Conservatives, they are much less interactive, but, if you

    look at the number of links theyre pushing out here, and you compare that with the number of retweets

    and the number of replies, you see that theyre good at pushing stuff out but theyre not good at

    responding and they tend not to be very interactive.

    DS: These numbers are just the MPs, some people say the Tory activists are more influential than their

    MPs.

    AW Well Tory bloggers are a lot more influential, Id say than almost any other group youll find

    online. Guido Fawlkes, Iain Dale, Tim Montgomerie are really really strong voices, and have much

    more impact than the Labour bloggers. Even the sort of rising stars of blogging, like Ellie Gellard and

    Will Straw, they just dont carry the clout that those guys have. I would say youre right though.

    Conservative supporters and Conservative bloggers have a lot more clout than Conservative MPs

    online, on twitter, certainly. Conservative MPs tend to be fairly strict. There are two that stand out.

    One is Grant Schapps who is, you know, I think an excellent tweeter, very accessible; genuinely I think

    he ranks up there as being a very good user of the technology. I think the other one that stands out, for

    less positive reasons, is Nadine Dorries, who has tended to get into a lot of arguments on twitter with

    people and can be very forthright with her views. And its very entreating, especially the clashes shes

    had with Kerry McCarthy. Its very entertaining, and in a way its a good use of the mechanism but is

    also shows the danger of using it because, you know, getting into arguments inn a stream of micro-

    posts, you cant really follow the argument and its just like a stream of angry tweets. But these figures

    are great, really interesting stuff. And it does bear out. The only thing I would say is, probably off the

    record but do feel free to record it, when you publish these numbers the Tories and the Lib Dems who

    read this are going to come back and say oh you working for the Labour party. And unfortunately one

    of the really interesting things weve found is that when you push out figures you push data out there

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    market place to operate in because there are these sort of rational agendas which of course means that

    the power of the medium is quite challenging. Because the real strength of social media analysis is

    what youve done here. You can look at this and you can actually draw meaningful conclusions about

    each parties communications strategy from the way that they are using twitter. Thats very interesting.

    The problem is that, if you then, you know, use that data as part of your analysis, as part of your

    research and push it out there, you know, the responses will be oh yes, but youre a member of the

    Labour party. But there is one other thing which is interesting here though, that it would be interesting

    to do an analysis on facebook because the Conservatives have been very active on facebook, and the

    reason for that is because they feel theyve got to be demographically targeting. So if you facebook you

    know you can reach a group of 50 year-olds or, you know, a group of OAPs or grandmothers or

    mothers or what have you. Where as with twitter its difficult to know who people are. So, you know,

    youll probably find that in terms of posting messages on facebook groups the picture is kind of

    reversed. So what we might be seeing here is a picture, this is through one channel, and on facebook

    its the other way. But yeah, its very, its very interesting.

    DS: Would you say facebook is a better tool for getting at people and getting them engaged in politics?

    Because you can target demographics?

    Andrew: Yeah, I think it is. I think for only one reason. The examples Ive seen which are very good,

    the Lib Dems, people say Jo Swinson, shes very active on twitter. She has a facebook group where

    you can contact her and ask her questions through her facebook page. She say, through doing that, she

    can reach more people than can come to her surgeries. She says its just a way to through put more

    people, its a way I can more interactive, I reach more people. So, you know, shes found facebook to

    be very affective. The Lib Dems also have consultations in the West Country about road planning and

    new bridges and stuff like that. Where they create these groups and gather peoples opinions. In twitter

    theyre not using it the same way, you know, theyre seeing it more as a sort of chat and broadcast

    medium. But you can channel a lot more opinion. So its not qualitative, but quantitatively its very

    valuable. So if you want to know what people think in depth, with a sort of qualitative analysis,

    facebooks the way to go. If you want to know what 20,000 opinions are about a major event, positive

    or negative, fairly base level stuff, thats the way to go with twitter. The difference is that neither one

    can do the whole picture but what were finding is that our polls on twitter track to with a couple of

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    of people screaming about an issue in the public, right in the public eye, in a very public medium. And

    actually, its reaching out and reaching the press in other countries its so big. And yet here in the UK the

    politicians arent doing that, theyre pushing out oh check out my manifesto, look at this, were on

    the chancellors debate and etc etc.

    AW: I think these figures back it up as well, these are the most followed MPs and these are the MPs

    who posted the most replies over the seven days. Its all Labour again.

    AW: Yes they are more interactive. Now Andrew Gwynne, Manchester, hes very very active. Very

    popular with the grass roots. If you follow Grace Fletcher-Hatwood, Andrew Gwynnes been heavily

    involved with her in the creation of MobMonday. Which is a great use of social media, were they

    organise a phone back and they organise people through twitter to do telephone canvassing, great.

    Kerry, obviously shes Labours new media spokesperson, shes always been very active and she has a

    high profile. Tom Watsons a very interesting guy. He and Tom Price were the first two MPs to be on

    twitter. And infact it was Tom Watson, a conversation between him and my business partner Alberto,

    that lead to the creation of tweetminster. Tom Watson as saying I think this is very interesting, I think

    we should get politicians on it. Tom has pushed an awful lot of activity round the DE bill. Whats

    interesting is, if you look at it, he has more followers than the official spokesperson, and more

    followers than the most active and interactive politicians. Part of that is because he always taps into the

    issues. He recently, the week before last, blocked the passage of the libel act, the amendment of the

    libel bill, a lot of people can out to say why and he used the platform brilliantly to say look, this

    amendment is addressing one problem in the system but its not addressing all those issues around

    copyright, things that have been raise by the pressure groups. And by doing that hes drawn an awful

    lot of attention to it. But Tom Harris, he doesnt reply to as many people, but hes very important

    because he was the minister who tried to blog and tweet whilst having a ministerial position. And had

    to resign eventually over various things he put out there, and has said ever since, you cant be a

    government minister and a blogger and a tweeter. Obviously Ed Balls, the Milibands have tried to get

    along, but obviously they have a very safe, very controlled policy. Weve meet Tom a few times and he

    feels that the value in it is about building trust and I think thats very important But yeah, roughly these

    figures are working at as about the same here. Youve got three times as many Labour MPs. We

    actually did some analysis looking a people who followed parties And when we took out all the

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    an impact in the, you know, Ellie Gellard situation. You know, journalists find breaking stories and its

    a way for people to draw their battle lines. It has been very negative, in some respects. The reason its

    been so negative is because its a very close race. And, ultimately, parties have got a certain amount of

    safe support and theyre squabbling, or theyre campaigning, very hard for that 10% in the middle that

    they need to convert. And because of that strategists have told me, in confidence so naming no names,

    that when its such a close race its the wrong time to go out there with big ideas, its the right time to

    try and discredit the other party. Thats the logic behind the sort of negative campaigning, focusing

    very much on the opponents shortcomings as opposed to focusing on your own positives. So weve

    seen a bit of grass roots activism, weve also seen a bit of fighting and bitching and what have you.

    Weve also seen, this year, which is very different, is the role of twitter in combination with TV. In the

    chancellors debate we saw about 20,000 tweets in that hour. You saw there how people were reacting

    in real time and how people were doing. And at the end of it all the parties claimed victory, what we

    saw, and this is where twitter is important, is that based purely on the poll side of it, we can see that

    Cable was the most popular, Darling was second and Osborne came third. Which is what we expected

    to see, because we know cable is supremely popular. However the analysis is really interesting. What

    we found is that the sentiment score for Osborne went up a little bit, but he was pretty much the same

    when he finished. For Cable, his sentiment score went right up, but the next day came right back down.

    And with Darling the same thing, he sort of went up and down through the show. By the end of it he

    was right up and the next day he was back down. Osborne remained steady and strong. So actually who

    won the debate? Its easy to be popular and get a good hour on TV but the next day, you know, youre

    back down in the dumps. Thats what happened really for Cable, and thats kind of what happened for

    Darling. Osborne? He came out of that just as strong as he went in. So although he came third in the

    popularity steaks, he didnt nearly as bad as the press were predicting. In fact he did much better. So

    Osborne probably won the debate, even though he didnt put in as good a show as the others. But the

    interaction between social media and other mediums, social media and newspapers, thats where a lot

    of the links come from, social media and TV, thats where all the conversations start. What are people

    talking about on twitter? Theyre talking about what they watched on telly. You know, what theyveseen on the news or read in the papers. So its role in the election, its power in the election is this ability

    to connect people together and drive a conversation. I think the other thing thats important is that its

    all about whats happening right now. Someone asked me about posters, do you think political posters

    will make a really big difference? My answer to that is well they do for probably a couple of days In

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    AW: There are two answers for that. Good question, great question. Firstly anything that limits

    politicians ability to waffle is a great thing. And we have seen that there is a real value in having 140

    characters, from a data mining point of view, which is that in 140 characters its quite easy to spot key

    words. So as a way of communicating its very efficient but of course you cant have a long, deep, rich

    debate. Its not the right mechanism for that. And its the same as, you know, you cant have a row with

    your girlfriend, boyfriend, over text. It doesnt work, you need to get on the phone and have a phone

    call. However, thats, I think, ok, because, you know, in the same way, sorry, let me put this another

    way. You cant have a debate over twitter, no thats true you cant. But you can draw attention to a

    debate, you can direct people to a debate, you can have all the banter around a debate and the debate

    can take place somewhere else. Also, it makes you aware of these debates. Ill be honest; the Digital

    Economy Bill hadnt passed me by by any means. You know I wasnt in a position, time-wise to

    investigate the bill, when I first heard about it. When people started posting links about it on twitter,

    thats when I got more involved. And I got the depth from watching the clips on youtube and the blog

    posts, thats where I formed the opinion. That wouldnt have happened if it hadnt of come onto my

    radar through twitter. You cant fulfil a debate through it, but you can start one. And starting a debate

    is, in many respects, half the battle.

    DS: Once you start a debate, where would you take it then?

    AW: Yeah, thats kind of where it falls down a little bit because, you know, twitter has a short attention

    span. Trafigura, lets not forget that was massive. It forced the over turning of an injunction that was

    highly suspect, it broke the story into the mainstream media. It was terrible PR for Carter Ruck, and a

    week later everyone was talking about something else. The people meanwhile, in the Ivory Coast, who

    were dieing and having their environment destroyed by this shipping accident, this oil, those people,

    that situation is still ongoing. So the debate doesnt go on for very long on twitter. So you start the

    debate on twitter, but it go on very long.

    DS You mentioned Trafigura and Jan Moir. There is an argument that its to easy to join in these

    debates. You know, you join the facebook group or retweet and youre in the numbers. How many of

    those people took the time to read the articles? Is it to superficial?

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    methodology, and said all were doing is testing the method used in the Japanese experiment. And our

    initial projection gave Labour a one point lead over the Conservatives, suggesting a small labour

    majority or a hung parliament. Since then weve released two sets of figures, one giving a small

    conservative lead over Labour, and one this week showing Conservatives and Labour about level and a

    bit of boost for Plaid and the Greens. Ok, so it should have been an academic experiment. The press

    release went out, most of the papers picked it up, ITN did a piece on it and people say oh can twitter

    predict the election? Tweetminster predicts the results of the election. Actually were not, were

    testing out a predictive model. Then you get people saying this is crazy, of course the Conservatives are

    going to win, of course theres going to be a hung parliament. We had one guy, a blogger called Tory

    Bear, whos not a fan of Tweetminster, started saying that, you know, those lefties t Tweetminster

    predict a Labour win. You have to sit there and take it on the chin, but on the other hand you have to

    accept that people dont read it, people didnt read the methodology and go oh this is a predictive

    model from data mining company. They read oh heres some guy whos thrown some tea leaves in a

    bowl and is now telling the result of an election labour cant possibly win. You know everyones got

    an opinion. Christ, get in a taxi and listen to some of the crazy stuff they come out with. Where do they

    get their opinions from?

    DS: One of the things about twitter is that it gives everyone a level playing field, is that a good thing?

    AW: Well, you know, look at Nick Griffin when he was on Question Time. We were monitoring all the

    tweets and there was a real storm of tweets, three times as many as there were during the chancellors

    debate. Which shows you how engaged the public were. We were registering about four tweets a

    second. And what we saw was that there were a couple of people of said give the man a chance, you

    know, and hes got a point there. Clearly out of step with the views of everyone else and some people

    were tweeting saying dont you love your country, dont you want to stand up for Britain?, echoing

    the points that Nick Griffin was making, which to a lot of people dont make sense. You know, its like

    the BNPs idea that there is a black police officers association so there should be a white police officersassociation. And you know, it doesnt take a genius to work out that the white police officers

    association is the police. So theres some basic logical misunderstanding. And what we found was that

    there were some people saying, no, hes right. And they should be able to get up there and say their

    piece but they should also expect to get shouted down by the majority who say no youre wrong I

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    with chatrooms they could all get together and be racist, they had these sort of dark, dingy meeting

    rooms where they got together, so I think its a good thing.

    DS: There is a theory about twitter that, through the process of retweeting, people who arent interested

    in politics can be accidentally exposed to political ideas and debate. Do you agree with that?

    AW: Yeah, retweeting is interesting. With my agency hat on, we did the campaign for the Anvil DVD.

    The rock band Anvil. We did a lot of measuring of retweeting there. And what was really interesting

    was, if you were a certain age, middle-aged man, and youre into heavy metal, youll like Anvil. But

    whats interesting is that your friends will like Anvil. Anvil has, over 6 months, Anvil had about 400

    hundred retweets. But when we added all that up we reached a couple of million people through that

    retweeting. Now admittedly, about million of those were from Coldplay retweeting because theyve got

    a lot of followers. But, from 400 hundred people retweeting, we reached somewhere in the region of

    25-30,00 ordinary Joes. All of whom were interested in rock music. And for politicians, having their

    stuff retweeted is, yeah, its an excellent way to expose people to politics. Because everyone is political

    about something. However, what I suspect is that, and this needs to be studied, is that if you retweet

    something about the environment, people are much more engaged. If you retweet something about

    party politics, people will switch off. You know, party politics is not interesting in a way in which the

    environment, the economy and that kind of stuff is. And so its single-issue politics that I think is good

    for retweeting, Im not sure that party politics goes the same way. David Wright calls the Tories scum

    sucking pigs and then claims his tweets had been edited, which, technically, is impossible. And then

    he tries to delete his tweets but people have already got it, and the link is already out there. Peopled

    used our search engine, unfortunately for him, to bring up his whole archive of tweets, to see that, you

    know, the words scum, sucking, Tory and pigs feature in various combinations regularly. More

    regularly than perhaps they should.

    DS: And there was the Labour PPC who recently got sacked because of what he said on twitter.

    AW: Ahh yes, as I said, recently Ive been out of the loop I bit.

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    the Lib Dems. Or, and there are politicians like Grant Schapps and Nick Clegg doings this as well, who

    have tried to speak more to people, to be more engaged. Because you know, theyre aware of the fact

    that they need to be talking to people to rebuild that trust. The jury is still out on which is the right way

    to go. I think that, youre voting for youre local MP, so for a local MP its a no brainer to talk to the

    local people, one-to-one, to be more accessible. And also that is good for democracy, to have your

    elected representative where you can reach them, it doesnt matter if, you know, only one in a thousand

    communications gets through to them and they get back. Its still more, its more accessibility, and I

    think its a good thing. I think the flip side of it is though yeah, youre going to have people whop

    embarrass you, but you need to train people more effectively. And for some reason, and you know

    weve seen this on other forms of social interaction, you know, people will get naked on a webcam

    with a total stranger, in a way they never would if they met them in a bar. People will give people their

    bank account details and their passwords in chatrooms in a way you never would in the real world. And

    with twitter politicians will say stupid, crazy off the leash remarks, which they would never dream of

    saying on TV or in a newspaper article, but they say it on twitter. Ultimately theyve got to get wiser

    about it, an I think we are seeing less and less of it. At the moment were in a situation were probably a

    lot of people will voting in protest at the Labour government rather than voting for their local politician

    who can deliver them excellent services and I think you need to rebuild that trust between people and

    politicians and I think you do that by being more accessible.

    DS: And at the moment you would agree that the Labour party is by far the better party at that?

    AW: I would say yeah. The numbers, the numbers youve got here and the numbers weve got, show

    theyre more interactive.

    DS: Is that because they let their MPs just get on with it?

    AW: Well, yeah. Theyve been less organised in controlling the message. Maybe less now, we areseeing a bit more party control. But yes they have been more interactive, I think the Lib Dems as well

    have been more interactive. Both Labour and the Lib Dems have been more interactive the

    Conservatives. Some Conservatives have been very strong in their communication; Im thinking Grant

    Schapps and Nadine Dorries The numbers game tells us Labours better at it but I would say talking a

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    AW: The best advice I heard was Krishnan Guru-Murthys advice, which is, if youve got a twitter

    strategy, its probably rubbish. My advice would be probably, dont tweet so much what youre having

    for lunch. Let people know where you are, what youre doing and they want to know where you stand

    on the issues. Use the tool for that. In the same way that you would use print journalism or broadcast

    journalism. But also use it to follow up your other communications in an integrated format. What

    twitter does, what facebook does is it allows you to stitch together TV, radio, constituency meetings;

    its a sort of communications glue. You can bring all this tuff together, and by doing that you extend

    the life of each piece. You know, I did a piece on the radio tell me what you think about it, on twitter,

    you know. Use it to add to the value of existing communication channels, be interactive with people,

    and also, you know, dont let it rule you. Dont think you have to answer every message because you

    dont. And remember that jokes, in text form, are more misunderstood. You know, were having a

    conversation and with realising it you can smell me, you can see my skin colour change; you can see

    my posturing and facial expressions. Im giving you a huge amount of data about whether Im being

    positive or negative. And Kerry McCarthy says the she hates using emoticons, she think that theyre

    twee and she doesnt like using them. She thinks that she could because people are getting when shes

    being serious and humorous. So thats the important thing, dont try and be funny, be honest with

    people, be accessible.

    III: Face to face interview with Liberal Democrat PPC for Hastings and Rye, Nick Perry.

    Hastings and Rye Liberal Democrat Constituency Office. Hastings, East Sussex. Friday 9th April 2010.

    DS: Danny Saxby

    NP: Nick Perry

    DS: How important is the Internet to your campaign? You said when we were arranging this interview

    that it was useful because it was free?

    NP: The Internet is crucial in terms of our campaign, I mean, Ive got a thirtieth possibly of the funds,

    or campaign donations anyway, that Labour and the Tories have got. So theyre looking at sixty, sixty

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    DS: I see youve got a Facebook group in support of the Hastings fishermen, which is really tapping

    into a local issue.

    NP: Yeah. I dont know if the other politicians would say the same but they havent really done it the

    same way. Theyve gone for a kind of candidature approach to social networking and you know, thats

    ok, that works with someone like the face recognition of Michael Foster, the sitting MP. I think hes

    got something like five hundred people on his network and Amber, the Tory, has something like three

    hundred I think. Interestingly I think Amber has support from all over the country rather than

    particularly local. And I tried the same initially, you know I set up a page for myself and, you know,

    my Dad and his cat were on it. You know, that was it. And I thought, well, how do we tap peoples

    enthusiasm for social networking in a way which isnt going to be a real turn-off. And what I decided

    to do was to try and get it to help the campaign that I was running, rather than getting people to say,

    ooh Nick Perry I want to be his fan, or whatever. Because relatively speaking, as somebody whos

    quite new to the area, its going to take time to build the kind of profile that Michaels got, you know,

    after living here for sixty years, sixty five years. Erm, and having various different roles in the local

    and the county council. So, erm, I just had to decide what campaigns are important to me and what

    difference I wanted to make, and err, I chose those, and then use the social networking to try to develop

    peoples awareness of those campaigns. And thats been quite successful, you know, sort of sort of

    , you know, we want fairer parking at the Conquest Hospital, and we have about thirteen hundred

    members, similarly for the fishermen site. So, errr, thats really important to me this week because that

    means that Ive been able to, when I , Ive got a separate kind of bulletin email, which has about 900members on it, thats means that, you know, Ive been able to reach three and a half thousand people.

    Quite err and you know on the list there are some kind of key opinion formers in different areas of

    the constituencies life. So, just by the touch of a button and without any cost to us I can reach three and

    a half thousand people, which, you know, for a party like ours is incredibly important. So yeah, there

    you go, social networking has been a real change in the capacity of the smaller parties since the last

    election, erm, I dont think there was anywhere near as wide a usage of proficient usage of these sortsof technologies in 2005.

    DS: Have you thought about how youre going to turn those three and a half thousand people into

    votes?

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    and see exercise to see what difference it makes to our vote share, when we get the results on May 7th,

    May 6th.

    DS: And youve got a blog as well?

    NP: Yeah, Ive got a blog, also free. Provided by Wordpress. And so err, we have a constituency

    website, paid for, which is run by a company based in Folkestone, ermm, which provides quite a lot of

    the Liberal Democrat websites across the country. Erm, so for the constituency party we have a website

    and I have my blog, and thats probably had about twelve thousand hits, over a two year period, and I

    dont know how good or not that is but it certainly, erm, its viewed regularly.

    DS: Do you get much feedback on the blog?

    NP: Yeah I, not necessarily about the content of the blog, the blog is a filter for people to get in touch

    with me, and what Ive tried to do is erm, yeah so what Ive tried to do with the blog is to encourage

    people to contact me by email, and the more emails we get the more easier it is for us to communicate.

    DS: And youve got a Twitter account?

    NP: I mean, I do tweet. I probably, during the election campaign Ill probably tweet once a day or

    something to tell people what Im doing. That isnt the biggest source of following I dont think,theres probably about eighty or ninety people following me, Im not quite sure. I dont use twitter

    much myself, in terms of following other people particularly so I dont really know how people use

    twitter themselves to follow me. Erm you knw, I put things up there incase people are interested but it

    hasnt been as big a, err, campaign as the blog really

    DS: When starting your campaign did you think about how to use these tools? Did you think we canjoin twitter, start a blog and then use twitter to direct people to the blog?

    NP: Erm, yes, I mean its a case of trying to cross refer, er, and I also, up until the election campaign I

    also had a weekly column on the local papers website which I would direct people to my blog and also

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    additionally to that is an encouragement to use it because it is, you know, its a good way of contacting

    people, it what seems to work about social networking is people remain relatively anonymous in the

    way that they contact you, so you do it by the network rather than by email address

    IV: Face to face interview with Hilary Benn MP, Secretary of State for Food and Rural Affairs. Leeds

    Town Hall, Leeds, West Yorkshire. Monday 18th

    January 2010

    DS: Danny Saxby

    HB: Hilary Benn

    DS: Do you think that connecting to a new generation of voters through technology is necessary, such

    as social network sites as twitter?

    HB: I dont tweet myself; I have colleagues who do though. You cant get your message across in, is it

    only 140 characters? But it is essential to communicate with young voters but presentation of yourpolicy, meeting and speaking to people in person by knocking on doors is still the best way.

    DS: Do you think its a good thing for politicians to be on twitter?

    HB: I dont know you tell me. Some of my colleagues are on it. Im not sure.

    DS: But what being connected with your constituents? Directly?

    HB: Yes, I suppose that is a good point. I always get emails saying, Dear Mr Benn, or whoever is

    reading this because people expect my secretary not me, to be reading and replying. I always reply

    letting people know that it was me who read it, I think thats important. So anything that allows us to

    be direct is a good thing yes.

    V: Email interview with Alberto Nardelli, Co-Founder of Tweetminster. 5th March 2010.

    DS: Danny Saxby

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    DS: Do you think it has played a role in encouraging politicians to use Twitter?

    AN: I would hope so. I think it made it easier and speeded up the rate of adoption. Twitter's growth,

    use by media and the upcoming election of course all helped too.

    DS: Do you think Twitter is a useful tool for engaging those people who normally don't engage with

    politics?

    AN: Yes and no - Twitter helps those already engaged to better connect and share information with

    people who are interested in issues, but maybe not so actively interested in politics directly. Meaning it

    puts people in touch with politically relevant information far more quickly. The majority of the

    population isn't though on Twitter, yet I wouldn't underestimate the influence Twitter has on

    mainstream media and in helping people organise activities which have an impact offline.

    DS: And do you see some politicians taking their same old message onto Twitter and expecting to

    reach a new audience which isnt there. (After all people will only follow you if you say something

    worth listening to)

    AN: All politicians use Twitter differently - some are engaging, others only broadcast their message.

    The more compelling ones though have both more followers and reach than others.

    DS: Is Twitter, and its 140 characters, a good tool for debate?

    AN: Twitter is communications platform, not a debating tool.

    DS: We've seen how the Obama campaign utilised social media to co-ordinate an old fashioned grassroots organisation. Do you think this where the advantage of Twitter lays? As a tool for organising

    rather than debating?

    AN: Absolutely even if in the UK we're seeing it more used as space to attack political opponents than

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    against Trafigura and Jan Moir and the we love NHS campaign. How many of those people who

    retweeted comments and used the hashtags had actually read up on the incidents and come to their own

    conclusions?

    AN: While there is a number of people who simply retweet messages, it's also true that within the

    stream of information there are alternative voices and sources of information - this makes it much

    easier actually for people to discover alternative view points than if they read only one newspaper for

    example. The masses aren't of course always right, but that's besides the point - in an open platform

    competitive view points more easily compete. As a rule of thumb, opens always beats closed.

    DS: Is Twitter an aid to democracy? Or is too superficial to have any real impact?

    AN: Think previous answer replies to this too - as a yes.

    VI: Email Interview with Shane Greer, Executive Editor of Total Politics Magazine. 16th

    April 2010.

    DS: Danny Saxby

    SG: Shane Greer

    DS: Do you think Twitter is a useful tool for engaging those people who normally don't engage withpolitics? And do you see some politicians taking their same old message onto Twitter and expecting to

    reach a new audience which isn't there. (After all people will only follow you if you say something

    worth listening to)

    SG: Generally, no. The biggest issue in that regard is that many of the people engaged in political

    discussions on Twitter are already political. So, in a direct sense, it's not a great for directly engagingwith non-political people. But it is a great medium for spreading a message further (for example, if the

    media pick something up from Twitter (consider how Henry MacRory uses Twitter to spread the

    Conservative message to the media)). But there are some exceptions to this. Consider Sarah Brown.

    She has over 1 1 million followers and the vast majority will not be political She clearly can spread

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    DS: We have seen how the Obama campaign used social media to create a grassroots organisation and

    to encourage people to donate millions of dollars. Are the British political parties using social media in

    a similar way? Or are they letting their members work out how to best use social media on their own?

    SG: The British political parties are, but to varying degrees of success. The LibDems aren't doing very

    well at all. Labour have a site called MembersNet which connects activists and helps them mobilise

    and organise. But it's the Conservative Party which is really leading the way online.

    MyConservatives.com is the centrepiece of the Tory operation, helping them recruit new activists,

    organise current ones, raising money for candidates online etc. Nobody in the UK is coming close to

    achieving the success that Obama did, but I think that's more down to the inability of British political

    parties to innovate in the way US campaigns do.

    DS: Would you agree that vast number of people who follow politicians and political commentators on

    Twitter are already politically active? If so, how can it be use to reach those people who aren't

    politically active?

    SG: Yes. I think my answer to the first question pretty much covers this.

    DS: Are the British political parties using social media to its full potential? Which political party would

    you say is the most active and competent online?

    SG: See my answer to the third question.

    DS: Over the past few days we have seen a Labour PPC sacked because of Twitter, and Labour activist

    @BevaniteEllie attacked in national newspapers for a blog she wrote 18 months ago. Whats your view

    of these stories?

    SG: Labour were right to sack the PPC, but they should have done it sooner (his Tweets were over aperiod of time, and some senior Labour people were following him). I think this was perhaps the first

    great example of a British politician really messing up online, and I think we'll see a lot more of it in

    the years ahead. As for Ellie Gellard, I don't have a problem with someone changing their mind. But

    i liti h t b f l b t h t ' id i th t it h t i th f t

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    DS: Danny Saxby

    BT: Bill Thompson

    DS: Do you think Twitter is a useful tool for engaging those people who normally don't engage with

    politics? And do you see some politicians taking their same old message onto Twitter and expecting to

    reach a new audience which isn't there. (After all people will only follow you if you say something

    worth listening to)

    BT: I don't think Twitter will really do much for engagement. Those who tweet and aren't interested in

    politics will ignore it, or stop following those who do engage. I think it can be valuable for reinforcing

    connections, for spreading news quickly and for asking questions of those putting forward positions or

    points of view.

    DS: Is Twitter, and its 140 characters, a good tool for debate?

    BT: Twitter can be used to engage in debate, but the problem is not so much the lack of space - 140

    characters is ok to express a view - but the complexity of extracting tweets relating to a specific topic

    from the flow, threading them in any reasonable way and keeping up with what's going on. It's more

    appropriate for a quick back and forth on a topic than a longer form conversation - and that has limitedvalue in the political process, I fear.

    DS: We've seen how the Obama campaign utilised social media to co-ordinate an old fashioned grass

    roots organisation. Do you think this where the advantage of Twitter lays? As a tool for organising

    rather than debating?

    BT: I don't think Twitter is good at this - too few people are connected, there is no guarantee tweets

    will be received and tweets are too public, in general. A lot of work has been done over many years to

    make email delivery reliable and many more people can receive email on the move than use Twitter

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    though they may do a lot to raise awareness that could then be capitalised on by proper campaigning.

    Tom Watson's book Causewired is a good examination of the potential of the network to galvanise

    causes.

    DS: Is Twitter an aid to democracy? Or is too superficial to have any real impact?

    BT: Any tool that helps people communicate directly is an aid to democracy, however small the impact

    it may have. Twitter has a lot to offer, but it's not going to save the world.

    VIII: FOI Request to UK Cabinet Office

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    Please acknowledge receipt of this letter as a Freedom of Information request. I am writing to you in

    order to obtain copies of any documents/memos/E-Mails, issued by any Government departments,

    setting out protocols/guidelines on the use of Social Media by both Ministers and backbench MPs.

    By Social Media I mean websites such as YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, as well as blogs.

    Yours Sincerely,

    Danny Saxby

    (Results included Civil Service guide to social media and a copy of the UK Ministerial Code)

    VIIII: FOI Request to Mayor of London Offfice

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    Dear Mr. Saxby,

    Thank for your inquiry on 10 March 2010.

    The Mayor communicates with Londoners using every appropriate and practical tool possible,

    including twitter. He also receives more than 6000 pieces of correspondence every month. This is

    clearly a considerable logistical challenge and a small team of people who process these exchanges

    help the Mayor. All communications however reflect his personal views and the authentic voice of the

    Mayor.

    Thank you again for your interest.

    Kind Regards

    Debbie MazsMarketing

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