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DjardRegistered Member

Date Joined Dec 2010Total Posts : 342

Posted 12/31/2010 7:13 PM (GMT -5)

My preference for playback of my work is nylon string guitar. I tried the other guitaroptions available in the impressive list of instruments; but each sounds like the musicis played with a lot of reverb, making it difficult to distinguish some of the notes. Ilooked in the "Playback Settings" and found nothing related to my problem. I have HPturned off (so that my rit. will work properly). I doubt my soundcard is the cause asother music software I use sounds OK. Is there some other setting in Finale 2011 thatwill give the guitar playback a more natural sound, or maybe a plug-in is availablethat renders a more natural sound?

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COBIRegistered Member

Date Joined Nov 2003Total Posts : 237

Posted 12/31/2010 9:46 PM (GMT -5)

You don't say what setup and instruments you are using: SoftSynth? GPO? MIDIinstruments? Other VSTis?

It's next to impossible for us to know how to help you with so little information.

Chuck BeckSwan-Cross, Ltd.www.swan-cross.comMy setup: Windows XP (Home); CPU 2.8 GHz; 2GB RAM; Finale 2008, 2009, 2011b;GPO 4

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jms3musicToo Many Ideas in my Head


Posted 1/1/2011 10:07 AM (GMT -5)

Presuming Finale works the same as PrintMusic in this respect, then if you select PlayFinale through VST, it will deactivate the built-in Mixer's Reverb area. Many VSTinstruments have their own built-in reverb options (and perhaps other sound-tweakingoptions as well), and it is also possible to use VST effects which include reverboptions.

Perhaps another tactic to try is using a DAW for final mixing, which is what I do. Ispend a lot of time in PrintMusic doing the actual composition, including making useof the reverb settings built into the VSTs I use. Then I export each staff's audio (notMIDI, due to personal preference) and import each of those audio files to theappropriate track in my DAW (Reaper) to perform final mixing there: reverb, chorus,stereo positioning, adding sound effects when warranted, etc. I also find that byworking this way, even though I can achieve a good balance of all the musicalelements in PrintMusic, I can achieve a far greater balance of the elements by doingthe final mixing in a DAW.

Music hobbyist working with:* PowerSpec B307 Pentium Dual-core 2.70GHz Windows 7 Professional* Finale PrintMusic 2010a & 2011a* Casio WK-200 Keyboard* Garritan Personal Orchestra 4 & World Instruments* Numerous VSTs and Soundfonts* Vocaloid Miriam v1.1.1.0* Music Maker 16 Premium Edition

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Posted 1/9/2011 7:09 PM (GMT -5)

Clicking on "MIDI/Audio" in the upper text menu, I saw that "Play Finale through VST"was already checked. So I tried the "Play Finale through MIDI." It worked. Yay! Thankyou. Thank you. I see that DAW is no longer h'ware. Reaper sells for about $150. I'm definitely goingto look into that option. In the meantime, I wouldn't mind adding a little reverb or EQ. I saw nothing in "AudioSetup." Pressing Ctrl+Alt+I for the VST instrument console lets me use ARIA PLayerwith Garritan Ambience, but then ARIA Player that came with Finale 2011 does notrecognize *.mus files, which is kind of odd. I figure I could save the score file and use an app like Audacity to edit and mix thesound. Are there any VST effect options in Finale 2011 for reverb, EQ, etc.?

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jms3musicToo Many Ideas in my Head


Posted 1/9/2011 7:14 PM (GMT -5)

I can't answer most of the questions since I use PrintMusic and not Finale, but as forReaper, you may qualify for the reduced pricing, which is $40 - but act fact, becauseonce Reaper 4.x is released, the licensing prices will go up. The good thing is thatgetting the license now entitles free updates until Version 5.x is released. Reaper alsocomes with a number of included effects, plus there are many effects which will workwith Reaper (VST effects, for example).

Music hobbyist working with:* PowerSpec B307 Pentium Dual-core 2.70GHz Windows 7 Professional* Finale PrintMusic 2010a & 2011a* Casio WK-200 Keyboard* Garritan Personal Orchestra 4 & World Instruments* Numerous VSTs and Soundfonts* Vocaloid Miriam v1.1.1.0* Reaper v3.7.x* Music Maker 16 Premium Edition

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Date Joined Dec 2010

Posted 1/11/2011 11:21 PM (GMT -5)

Wow! I'm on it. Say, if I experience any technical problems with Reaper, will I havebought the "grim" version?


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Kevin N6Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2011Total Posts : 4

Posted 1/13/2011 6:15 AM (GMT -5)

Found how you can control the reverb. This was driving me crazy also. Use the (Midi/Audio) dropdown, goto Instrument Setup, VST Instruments. I will make a window pop up. In this window click on the button next to (Effects) Garritan Ambience. Itlooks like a pencil. This open the reverb maker. Adjust the wet and dry mixes. Try the drop down presetsalso. Ballroom 1 almost has no effect. This adjust the Garritan instruments. To use the Aria player click the pencil button next to the (Aria Player). Hope this answers so much, did for me. Kevin

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winknotesRegistered Member


Posted 1/13/2011 9:14 AM (GMT -5)

I've pretty much given up on the Ambience reverb and use controller 91 (reverbdepth). Since the Aria player has reverb in the plugin itself this works pretty well. Thisway I can create hidden expressions with differing amounts of reverb and apply todifferent sections of the orchestra/ensemble. I can also decrease the amount of reverbwhen the texture gets full and increase when the texture thins out as well.

Steve Winkler

Finale 2009cGPOGPO4JABB3

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Jari WilliamssonRegistered Member


Posted 1/13/2011 10:28 AM (GMT -5)

winknotes said...

I've pretty much given up on the Ambience reverb and use controller 91(reverb depth). Since the Aria player has reverb in the plugin itself thisworks pretty well. This way I can create hidden expressions withdiffering amounts of reverb and apply to different sections of theorchestra/ensemble. I can also decrease the amount of reverb whenthe texture gets full and increase when the texture thins out as well.

But OTOH, if you are on Fin2009c, you're using a very different reverb functionalitycompared to Fin2011.

Jari Williamsson

Windows XP, Pentium 42.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM

www.finaletips.nu - The Finale Productivity Tips site


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Posted 1/13/2011 10:52 AM (GMT -5)

Jari Williamsson said...

But OTOH, if you are on Fin2009c, you're using a very different reverbfunctionality compared to Fin2011.

Oh yeah? How so?

Steve Winkler


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Jari WilliamssonRegistered Member


Posted 1/13/2011 12:38 PM (GMT -5)

winknotes said...

Oh yeah? How so?

In Fin2009, Ambience reverb can't be applied or bypassed locally, it's only a globalsetting. And the panel settings for reverb in the Aria player isn't available in theFin2009 Aria player.

Jari Williamsson

Windows XP, Pentium 42.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM

www.finaletips.nu - The Finale Productivity Tips site

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Kevin N6Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2011Total Posts : 4

Posted 1/13/2011 9:22 PM (GMT -5)

Sorry, I forgot to add the version I was using. 2011.

Kevin

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Posted 1/14/2011 11:22 PM (GMT -5)

Jari Williamsson said...

In Fin2009, Ambience reverb can't be applied or bypassed locally, it'sonly a global setting. And the panel settings for reverb in the Ariaplayer isn't available in the Fin2009 Aria player.

I see what you're saying. In my case though I seldom use the Finale player but havethe full version of GPO4 which does let me get to the reverb settings in each instanceof the Aria player. That's when I use hidden expressions. It would work better if theAria player let you load convolution impulses though. Oh well, I guess you can't haveeverything......for now :)

Steve Winkler


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Posted 1/22/2011 12:33 AM (GMT -5)

Kevin, your steps worked. Yay!

Winknotes, where abouts in Aria Player can I find "Controller 91 (reverb depth)"?

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