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Jared Taylor, Special to AR News, January 9, 2011

We have all heard by now of the attempted murder of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords on

Saturday. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) reportedly issued a memo claiming that

the shooter, Jared Loughner, has some connection with American Renaissance. We have received

a copy of the memo, the relevant portion of which we reproduce here:

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This is so hopelessly wrong that it is hard to believe it is a genuine government document. No one

by the name of Loughner has ever been a subscriber to American Renaissance or has ever

registered for an American Renaissance conference. We have no evidence that he has even visited

the AR website.

American Renaissance condemns violence in the strongest possible terms, and nothing that hasever appeared in it pages could be interpreted as countenancing it.

AR is not anti-government, anti-Semitic, or anti-ZOG, as is clear from the 20 years of back issues

that are posted on our website. The expression ZOG has never appeared in the pages of AR, and

we have has always welcomed Jewish participation in our work. Many of the speakers at

American Renaissance conferences have been Jewish.

Although the name Gabrielle Giffords has appeared in news articles we have excerpted on our

website, AR itself has never mentioned her and has certainly never criticized her policies.

Finally, Gabrielle Giffords is not the first Jewish female elected to such a high position in the US

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government. Barbara Boxer has represented California in the Senate from 1993, and Diane

Feinstein has done so since 1992. There are at least six Jewish congresswomen listed by

Wikipedia as currently serving in the House.

If this memo is typical of the research done by the Department of Homeland Security, our country

is in serious danger.

I telephoned DHS today to try to get the bottom of this nonsense, but apparently there is no

homeland security on Sundays. The person who answered the phone said no one is there and that I

should call back on Monday morning.

Fortunately, some of the media organizations that have been reporting this story have contacted

me, and have reported my assertion that American Renaissance knows nothing at all about Jared

Loughner, that we condemn all violence, and that we cannot possibly be described as anti-Semitic.

Even Mark Potok of the SPLC was quoted today as saying, Jared Taylor is not an anti-Semite.

We will report any further developments.

Update: Fox News is now saying that the memo is not actually from DHS but from a local law

enforcement organization that probably received information from DHS. It now seems possible

that the memo came from Arizonas Counter Terrorism Information Center (AcTIC)

Whatever the case, it is very sloppy, irresponsible crime fighting.

(Posted on January 9, 2011)

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1 me_leelee wrote at 2:05 PM on January 9:

Well said, Jared Taylor. I had hoped you would write a response to DHS today. Thank you for

AR.


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2 Susan wrote at 2:30 PM on January 9:

How sad is it that our government would try to single out this organization. I would demand

an apology ! This government is out of control. Unreal.

What happened yesterday is very sad. I pray for the families and friends that were involved

with the shooting.

We the people will continue to say what we mean and mean what we say at the Ballot Box

again in 2012.

I heard this guy was a pot head. The mind is a terrible thing to wasteand the Liberal

progressive Dems want POT LEGALIZED ?

Okay..go ahead and do it and there will be a lot more of this happening. Pot is a mind altering

drug and people who use it do weird sick things !

Wake up America !

3 Fake Name wrote at 2:33 PM on January 9:

Wow, I left an anonymous comment. I have affiliation with this website without registering

my name!

4 Anonymous wrote at 2:34 PM on January 9:

While I deplore the mendacious attempt to link this shooting to American Renaissance, I alsointerpret this ham-handed and easily falsifiable effort of Homeland Security (what an

oxymoron!) and the so-called mainstream media to be testimony to the increasing

readership and influence of American Renaissance. Fight these tyrants with every legal means

at your disposal, but also take their attentions as a sort of compliment.


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Full Text of Jared Lee Loughner Delusional Rant on Conscience Dreaming

posted 8th January 2011 in Media, Mysteries, Politics, Questions by Jim Cook

The following is the full text of a YouTube rant by Arizona 8th District gunman Jared Lee

Loughner, who appears to have gunned down several people and shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffordsin the head today:

Hello, my name is Jared Lee Loughner.

This video is my introduction to you! My favorite activity is conscience dreaming; the

greatest inspiration for my political business information. Some of you dont dream sadly.

Firstly, the current government officials are in power for their currency, but Im informing you

for your new currency! If youre treasurer of a new money system, then youre responsible for

the distributing of a new currency. We now know the treasurer for a new money system, is

the distributor of the new currency. As a result, the people approve a new money systemwhich is promising new information thats accurate, and we truly believe in a new currency.

Above all, you have your new currency, listener?

Secondly, my hope is for you to be literate! If youre literate in English grammar, then you

comprehend English grammar. The majority of people, who reside in District-8, are illiterate

hilarious. I dont control your English grammar structure, but you control your English

grammar structure.

Thirdly, I know whos listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people,

who dont know this accurate information of a new currency, arent aware of mind control and

brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldnt have happen.

In conclusion, my ambition is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a

few days, you know Im conscience dreaming! Thank you!

This is a portrait in words of a man immersed in paranoid delusions, struggling to write

grammatically incorrect paragraphs about others grammar, convinced that mind control and

brainwashing and a strange new currency is all around him. Its a sorry portrait of a man who

has come to a pathetic end, complaining about his own civil rights while taking away the right

of other people to simply live.

A question which surely will emerge over the next few days: how did a paranoid delusionalman end up with his hands wrapped around a Glock? Had he encountered the authorities in

any circumstances before? If so, how did he obtain the weapons used to carry out his bizarre

attack?

Update: It appears that as a Pima Community College student, Jared Loughner was removed

from the campus for causing a disturbance (talking), an act that led to his conclusion that all

police are Unconstitutional. So there was some contact between Loughner and the

authorities on the occasion of bizarre behavior, making the question of his possession of a

Glock a reasonable one to investigate.

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2011/01/08/full-text-of-jared-lee-loughner-


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6 john wrote at 2:37 PM on January 9:

One has only to fly anywhere within the US to realize that DHS is a living, functioning parody

of government run amok and employing the otherwise unemployable. I doubt that the average

IQ of DHS employees exceeds 85.

Visitors from Europe, Asia, and Latin America are dumbfounded by the antics of thisridiculous make-work federal agency.

One has only to watch these buffoons at work to feel profoundly insecure. Their absurd

comments about Jared Taylor and AmRen to the effect that theyre a threat to national security

speaks volumes about the delusional nature of the mindless dregs who comprise this bunch.

7 German wrote at 2:40 PM on January 9:

If they were just Anti-White, there would be a lot of other organizations to attack.

They clearly just want to attack the Amren Conference!

Jared should sue them until they excuse for their Slander.

BTW: If you search American Renaissance on Youtube, you will see the many Jewish

speakers on the conferences.


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8 Kenelm Digby wrote at 2:40 PM on January 9:

Firstly, and obviously American Renaissance is merely a monthly magazine (which contains

nothing more than articles pertaining to White racial self-interest), and has never, ever been a

membership organisation nor political movement in any way shape or form so the mere idea

of links to Amren is arrant nonsense of highest order.

There is, of course, the Amren website which you are reading at the moment, but this merely

one admist many hundreds, indeed thousands of such internet open political forums in which

current political topics (which in any democracy worthy of he name), are openly discussed

and debated.In common with other forums of the genre Amren does have its own political

bias -which, again, is of White self-interest.

Secondly - and literally - the dead bodies of the murder victims are still warm.To fling blame

around like confetti on such an occurrence, with, apparently no police investigation of the

accused murderer being executed let alone published, is irresponsible to say the least and

bordering on the criminal.

Thirdly, the mere fact that those controlling the MSM have, apparently, a ready made script

just waiting for the first excuse and opportunity to release it (ie White supremacist nut linked

to Amren), shows that those who control the MSM are genuinely afraid of Amren, the

essential message of Amren and the fact that Amren is attracting readers and getting its

message across.

The upshot is this:

Amren is getting too uppity - lets slap it down.

9 tom wrote at 2:41 PM on January 9:

The liberals are going to squeeze every last drop of opportunity from this incident.

I predict calls for gun control, the fairness doctrine, limitations of speech, you name it.

It sickens me that the focus is on so called anger at the government.

Excuse me, but we have a right to be angry and express it. The government is destroying our

nation!

But yesterdays shooting was the work of a demented psycho. Not the work of someone who

can even put left or right into context.

Again, I expect Washington and the liberal media to use this ugly event to attack the tea party,

conservatives, average Americans, and anyone else upset at the conduct of our government.


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10 Tom Iron wrote at 2:53 PM on January 9:

I wouldnt fall all over myself explaining. These bums in DHS dont like us and no way will it

help to try to explain ourselves. Let anyone who has any interest just come on the site and see

for themselves what is being said. It will be obvious to any lucid person, there isnt any hate

being spread on Amren.

I hope this is the last explanation Mr. Taylor will offer. We have nothing to hide. What is

obvious is the govt. is trying to portary Amren as a terrorist sympathizing organinzation and it

isnt.

Well said Mr. Taylor.

Tom Iron

11 LOUDMOUTH57 wrote at 2:54 PM on January 9:

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) reportedly issued a memo claiming that the

shooter, Jared Laughner, has some connection with American Renaissance.Yeah, whats the

connection?Was Jared Laughner a writer for amren? Was Laughner a member of the AmRen

staff? Was Laughner an editer at AmRen? If they connect him to AmRen because he read

some of the articles provided in the AmRen magazine or made comments on the page that is

really pathetic.If we find out Jared Laughner reads people magazine or watches Oprah can we

connect Laughner to TV shows and magazines he reads or comments about. I wish AmRen

would not even respond to these outrageous allegations.Outrageous allegations are still

ridiculous even if they come from the department of homeland security.As a matter of fact

The Department of Home Land Security has made many idiotic allegations in the past year.

12 Thomas wrote at 2:55 PM on January 9:

Tom, anger at the government takes many ugly forms. Who wouldnt view this morons

actions as anti-government? Remember the Alfred P Murrah Federal Office Building in

Oklahoma City? So many forget that the second biggest civilian attack on the United States

was perpetrated by a white American.


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13 David Macko wrote at 2:56 PM on January 9:

As a charter subscriber to American Renaissance and an attendee of most of its conferences, I

think that we should interpret this attack as another backhanded compliment that we are

greatly increasing our effectiveness in our efforts to preserve the White race and the Western

Christian civilization which it created.

I think it is also worthy of mention that Fox News carried that misinformation this morning

along with an attempt by its reporter to claim ignorance of American Renaissance. Better to

have open enemies rather than enemies masquerading as friends.

As a former Libertarian candidate for Congress and for State Representative in Ohio I

certainly hope that attempts to assassinate politicians and candidates remain very rare.

In fact the only assassinated Congressmen whom I recall within the past century were Larry

McDonald on September 1, 1983, by the Soviets over Sakhalin Island on Korean Airlines

Flight 007 (unless the alternate theory that he was kidnapped and imprisoned by the Reds is

correct) and Leo Ryan by members of Jim Jones gang in Guyana in 1978.

The last attempted assassination of Congressmen in the United States was by Puerto Rican

nationalists in the House of Representatives in 1954.

Whatever the case, we need to make sure that the enemy does not use the incident to further

deprive us of our God-given, Constitutionally guaranteed rights, especially those specified in

the First and Second Amendments.

For life and liberty,

David Macko


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14 Support to Amren wrote at 2:58 PM on January 9:

Hi! Jared. Its been a long time since I viewed this site, but every time I come back - I find

new facts. I am comforted by the work youve done.

I have been brought back here, with probably many others, too, because Amren is being

shamelessly scapegoated and falsely connected to a guy who has been described by friends asa liberal and a left-wing political radical, a person who favored the Communist Manifesto.

Most of all, I find it a tragedy that media and the DHS can seek so low as to accuse people

with connection to a group simply by watching a video online.

Amren does not deserved to be slandered in such calculated and rotten way. Amren is not

anti-Semitic, not anti-gov, and the funny thing of it all is that most Amren articles dont come

from Amren writers themselves, but from the media and other sources of information. You

collect them from all corners and bring it here - allowing people to decide for themselves

without giving your own personal opinion. So, its incredibly mischievous what is being

reported of this fine, yet very simple groups of researchers and writers, because that is all

Amren is: a base of writers, thinkers, and researchers. Youre not a violent group. What areyou going to do, throw pens and scholarly works, books at people?

It makes little sense that the DHS would proclaim you are committed to these things, when

your group, leadership, and everyone involved in Amren is so opposite, and professionally

dedicated to solving issues through dialogue and research.


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Jared Lee Loughner, suspect in Gabrielle Giffords shooting, posted message online saying

please dont be mad at me

Jared Lee Loughner, the alleged gunman in the Tucson shooting of the US congresswoman

Gabrielle Giffords, had been behaving increasingly erratically in recent months.

The 22-year-old army reject had posted rambling videos online in which he made statements

about mind control, Swat teams and the gold standard. On his MySpace page he posted a

photograph of a handgun resting on top of a United States history textbook.

The motivations for the shootings remained unclear. The Pima County sheriff, Clarence

Dupnik, described Loughner as mentally unstable and said he may have had an accomplice.

In October 2007 Loughner was cited in Pima County for possession of drug paraphernalia, a

charge that was dismissed after he completed a diversion program, according to online

records. He has kind of a troubled past, I can tell you that, Dupnik said.

Former schoolmates said Loughner, who remains in police custody, smoked marijuana and

was prone to outbursts in class.

In one YouTube video he described himself as a US military recruit, but the US army

confirmed he had been rejected for military service in 2008 for reasons it could not disclose.

Loughner had been a student at Pima Community College, but one of the videos he posted

online was considered so disturbing by campus administrators that they suspended him in

September.

Loughner and his parents attended a meeting with college officials who said he would require

mental health clearance if he wanted to return, the New York Times reported.

Investigators have been scouring Loughners MySpace page, which was removed within

minutes of him being identified as the suspect. At about 5am on Saturday, he had written:

Goodbye [] Dear friends Please dont be mad at me.

In one of several internet postings, Loughner suggested the government was trying to take

advantage of him in some way. One video was called My Final Thoughts: Jared Lee

Loughner!.

In another posting, he wrote: All humans are in need of sleep. Jared Loughner is a human.

Hence, Jared Loughner is in need of sleep.

He also wrote about terrorism. If I define terrorist, then a terrorist is a person who employs

terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon. I define terrorist, he wrote. If you call

me a terrorist then the argument to call me a terrorist is ad hominem. You call me a terrorist.

His YouTube page listed a series of favorite books, including Animal Farm by George Orwell

and Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

In a video featuring text against a dark background, Loughner described inventing a new US

currency and complained about the illiteracy rate among people living in Giffordss

congressional district in Arizona.


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16 BT wrote at 3:03 PM on January 9:

The Liberals will stop at nothing to place blame on any and all right wing organizations or

publications.The liberal mindset is closed and they cannot admit that one of there own is at

fault here.

This person was sick and delusional and no one group can be the blame.If they want to blame

someone they should blame themselves,taking God out of the schools,kids grow up without asense of direction and Liberals will never approach or question someones Ideas or ideology

because they feel diversity and individuality is a good thingWell this is the result when

everyone runs around without anyone noticing the signs.


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Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot; At Least 6 Die Last Updated 7:43 p.m. ET

TUCSON - Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., was shot in the head and an aide was killed

Saturday when an assailant opened fire in an area where the lawmaker was meeting with

constituents, officials said.

The shooting rampage claimed six lives, including a 9-year-old child and U.S. District Judge

John Roll, officials said. Thirteen more were wounded at the scene, including Giffords. Five

were listed in critical condition and five were in serious condition. All had come out of

surgery by Saturday evening.

Giffords was one of those in critical condition, but Dr. Peter Rhee, trauma director at the

University of Arizona, said he was about as optimistic as I can get in this situation that she

will recover.

Initial reports by CBS Affiliate KOLD that the Congresswoman was among the fatalities were

corrected by her press people, who told KOLD that she was alive but in emergency surgery.

The assailant fired into an area where the Democratic lawmaker was hosting a Congress on

Your Corner event at a Safeway supermarket.

The gunman began just spraying everybody at point blank range. It wasnt like he was

picking people out, he just began shooting at everybody who was close to him and kind of aconstricted area, Dr. Steven Rayle, who witnessed the shooting and offered medical attention

to the victims, told CBS News.

Rayles said the suspect had a determined look on his face. And he just began shooting,

wearing dark clothes, a little bit shabbily dressed, and he really, I think thought he

would be getting away.

A person at the scene, possibly one of Giffords aides, tackled the suspect, Rayles said.

Officials say he has claimed sole responsibility for the attack.

CBS News correspondent Bob Orr reports that the gun recovered at the scene is a 9mm Glock

pistol. Sources earlier said it was equipped with an extended magazine. There is no word on

the number of rounds fired.

The suspects exact motivation was not immediately clear. Federal law enforcement officials

were poring over captured versions of a MySpace page that belonged to Jared Loughner and

over Youtube video published to the Internet weeks ago under an account Classitup10 and


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18 Question Diversity wrote at 3:11 PM on January 9:

What is the possibility that this suspect in the Tucson matter was linked to AR in that he

was one of the leftist goons who tried to disrupt the 2010 Conferences, or wants to try again in

2011?

He might have tried to murder one of us.

BTW, DHS, how is that investigation of the terrorism against the 2010 AR Conference

coming along?

Personally, I think the suspects motivation is irrational and personal:

http://tinyurl.com/2we87xx

I wont name him, even if the rest of you do. If it was eternal infamy he wanted, Im not going

to give it to him. The more anyone says his name, the more this encourages copy cats.


Only three ways one can interact with AR: (1) Subscribe to the publication, (2) Attend the

conferences, (3) Post to this website. This suspect never did 1 or 2, that has been confirmed.

As for 3, as heavily moderated as is this medium, I highly doubt any of his postings would

ever be approved, as most of his other writings on the internet have very poor grammar and

are incoherent in their topic development.


Id never heard of AmRen before this. I dont doubt for a moment your statement that you are

not anti-semitic, etc., Mr. Taylor. Fact is, if the SPLC says youre bad guys, then I can only

assume you are not. A bigger den of liars than SPLC this country has never known.

There is a conspiracy here, and it is a conspiracy to tie the actions of a very sick young man to

legitimate political dissent. They will succeed in some manner or other, as they always seem

to do with the media on their side. The shooter appears to be a textbook schizoid, and

deserves treatment and our prayers if I am right, or the gas chamber if I am wrong. It has

absolutely nothing to do with politics, and I am utterly disgusted that people of any stripe

would try to take advantage of it.

From this everyday citizen,

Carry on.


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Eric Cantor is House Majority Leader. IIRC, hes the highest ranking Jewish member of the

U.S. House in its entire history. One reason why Rahm Emanuel was loath to leave the House

to become Obamas first CoS is because Rahm wanted to be the first Jewish Speaker, so none

have risen to that level.

22 Nologo wrote at 3:30 PM on January 9:

Giffords is the first Jewish U.S. representative to be elected in Arizonaif media reports have

misrepresented this that is fair, but by and large, the only reports I have read have stated:

Giffords is the first Jewish U.S. representative to be elected in Arizonanot what you have

stated, first Jewish female elected to such a high position in the US government. I think it is

more than fair to point out most media reports have the correct representation.

Making it still something of import if his motives turn out to have had that in his

schizophrenic mind


As a citizen we need to exercise our power. We need to vote. And we need to boycott all

products advertised on biased and fear based media on both the right and the left. Those who

portray the world as a fearful place are in business ONLY because we pay for it through the

purchases of their advertisers products.

For example, FOX NEWS reaches 1% of the country. If the rest of us boycotted them and the

others advertisers they would be out of business.

Would someone start a website to kick this off? I want a list of the advertisers.

24 Nightowl wrote at 3:43 PM on January 9:

This man sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic. His rantings on numbers BCE sounds like

the ramblings of Colin Ferguson with 93 charges because its the year 1993 or the crazy

character Jim Carey played in some movie about Numbers. On his Myspace page he allegedly

said stuff about wanting to be a woman reminiscent of that John Mark Karr fellow who made

the fake Jon Benet Ramsey confession. It seems this guy was a firecracker about to go off nomatter what and someone would have been the victim whether a John Lesson or people at a

post office. The left is so vitriolic about their creaming in November they have to smear the

Tea Party and everyone who stands in the way of their miserable transformation of our

country with every act of senseless violence that occurs.


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25 Chip Anderson wrote at 3:47 PM on January 9:

If you will recall, someone in this administration did say, Never let a serious crisis go to

waste. Im certain that the free speech exhibited by American Renaissance doesnt fit their

agenda.

Chip

26 Rex wrote at 3:48 PM on January 9:

DHS and Fox News are two of the most dangerous and yet pathetic phenomena to be found in

modern America.

Also, dont forget, there is now a real-world link between the SPLC (Shysters Profiteering

Like Crazy) and the DHS. One of the SPLCs highest officials now sits on the DHS Working

Group on Countering Violent Extremism.

27 Grouch wrote at 3:54 PM on January 9:

I live in Phoenix and was listening to the news when this story broke. I have been keeping up

to date on the shootings that killed 6 and wounded Rep. Giffords. As has been said, these

kinds of actions do not belong in our society. In the first hours after this shooting, there was

mass confusion on the networks. Fox news even reported that Rep. Giffords was dead. (They

did however recant that strongly upon the news that she in fact, was alive.) And then the

political finger pointing began. The Tea Party. Sarah Palin. And the latest, American

Renaissance. Never heard of you. And having memory of Janet spouting off aboutright-wing extremists which , (according to her), included the military. She also claims that

the southern border of Arizona is more secure than ever before. I personally doubt she

knows where that is.

But is is clear to me, that she merely pulled your organizations name out of thin air so that

she could deflect the failed responsibility of her own office. Kudos to you for your stringent

denial.


Yes, indeed, this is a travesty. I visit the website for American Renaissance often. I do so to

get the pulse of what is going out there in the world that many people would viciously deny

is happening; while they cast a blind eye to adverse events that impact our daily lives and

freedoms as Americans. God help this once proud country of ours,I fear our present

government now more than ever.


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29 Victoria wrote at 3:59 PM on January 9:

Is it too far-fetched to suggest that AmRen might have been incorrectly associated with this

shooting because Jared Loughner sounds a little bit like Jared Taylor?

I can just imagine a grunt at DHS who was on-call for the weekend putting together an

emergency intel memo, and as hes writing the thing up hes talking to a family member orbuddy who says Jared Loughner sounds familiar hey, isnt he the guy who does

AmRen? And it makes it into the memo.

30 Jeddermann. wrote at 4:02 PM on January 9:

I telephoned DHS today to try to get the bottom of this nonsense, but apparently there is no

homeland security on Sundays. The person who answered the phone said no one is there and

that I should call back on Monday morning.

If this is a typical response, and I fear that it is, we are all in terrible peril. And Greta lookedbetter before her face job, what does that say?

31 McGilicuddy wrote at 4:04 PM on January 9:

Good news from the New York Times regarding this supposed government memo:

Officials at the Homeland Security department said Sunday morning they do not believe the

document is from their department.

32 Anna wrote at 4:07 PM on January 9:

I am Jewish, and have subscribed to Amrens magazine for a couple of years now. Ill tell you

what I think is going on here: Amren is perhaps the most intelligent, non-stereotypical

representative of the voice of White people, and the Left (which includes those running our

current govt) wants to quash that. They cannot afford to have sensible, educated, intelligent

ppl representing the voice of White people!

Why else would they slander Amren? That, and perhaps they are seeking to shut down the

conferenceagain?

33 NBJ wrote at 4:13 PM on January 9:

As an avid reader and visitor to this site, I was astonished to see AmRen the focus of such

misinformation and flat out lies on Fox news today. Coming from the DHS, we are indeed in

serious trouble Mr. Taylor. Know this though: Those of us that know this site and followed

your work over the years will defend you and AmRen to the very end when we see this

nonsense posted anywhere on the web.


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34 Georgia Resident wrote at 4:18 PM on January 9:

It should send a very clear message when the first connection fingered by the government in a

case of attempted assassination is an organization with no established connection to the

perpetrator. Jared Taylor is charitable enough to chalk it up to incompetence, while I smell a

rat, and it reeks of a smear campaign by a government-funded department to attack one of the

few groups that unashamedly promotes the interests of white Americans.

35 Kenelm Digby wrote at 4:24 PM on January 9:

Suppose Loughner was in the (regrettable) habit of watching Fox News every evening.

Then we could say with equal justice that Loughner had links with Fox News.

36 Cogitator wrote at 4:32 PM on January 9:

Never let a crisis go to waste. In this case it can be used to smear all the political enemies ofthe socialist/fascist left.

Had they not used this as an opportunity to attack those they disagree with, I would have been

surprised.


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37 Observer wrote at 4:33 PM on January 9:

From the fragmentary information leaking out the Loughner investigation, I have concocted a

plausible scenario.

Loughner is a bright but confused pot-smoking youngster with libertarian inclinations.

He was arrested on a minor drug-paraphernalia charge some years ago and entered the usual

diversion program.

Presumably the US government was informed of his case.

For some reason, probably aimlessness and frustration at the sight of American civilization

falling apart, he decided to join the US Army.

He was doubtless better qualified than most applicants until he hit the drug conviction

roadblock.

He was probably told that he could join up if he got his conviction expunged, a routine matter

for young people with no other criminal problems.

He applied to the court for expungment, but the court said the case had been automatically

dismissed after six months.

There could be no court action on expungment as there was no official record of a conviction.

He then went back to the Army to tell them there was no conviction to expunge.

The Army no doubt said that he had a drug record, and they could not take him until he got

the court to clear up the case.

He became furious, stuck between two intransigent bureaucracies.

When he heard of Giffords Congress on the Corner event, his frustration with the US

Government led him to fire wildly at her and the crowd.

Homeland Security is now trying to blame American Renaissance and Sarah Palin.


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38 John PM wrote at 4:36 PM on January 9:

American Renaissance condemns violence in the strongest possible terms, and nothing that

has ever appeared in it pages could be interpreted as countenancing it.

Well put Mr. Taylor,

American Renaissance has never advocated violence at any point, either on the website or in

the monthly publication. Quite the contrary, it has openly been opposed to the very sort of

random acts of violence we see with yesterdays horrific shootings in Arizona, or the general

deterioration within our society that has allowed the population to become almost numb to

such atrocities. Moreover, both the website and the magazine point out instances where such

acts of violence are ignored by the national media, simply because they are not sensational

enough, or the victim is of a non-protected group and being victimized by those of the

protected groups in this country. A great case in point, was this news article run on AR on

1/3/2011 : Police Believe Child Was Killed With Welding Torch:

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2011/01/police_believe.php

This Jared Loughner, seems to have been quite an unbalanced individual, who surprisingly

leaned to the Marxist left politically, not the racially realistic right. This is much to the dismay

of people who do encourage and even applaud such acts of violence against both elected

officials and private citizens (NAACP, SPLC, La Razaetc.) in the name of equality and

diversity. See this article:

http://tinyurl.com/2b2lzre

One wonders, for example, how he got the idea to turn an aborted fetus into a baby bomb?

It certainly didnt come from the AR website or even Fox News, it was the usual suspects who

preach tolerance in the name of multicultural hate and intolerance.

As always, God help us all!

39 fred wrote at 4:38 PM on January 9:

Id like to know where DHS is getting its information. Unless Im mistaken some of its past

intelligence has come from Mr Potoks own $PLC hustle. Regardless, Im more interested

in the motive for their spreading of false and malicious rumours. If their goal was to scareaway Amrens readers then Id say its backfired. All they have done is strengthen my resolve.


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40 E Pluribus Pluribus wrote at 4:42 PM on January 9:

The crazed young man who killed six people in Arizona appears to have the logical capacity

and judgement of a small child. There is something wrong with his brain. I suspect an MRI of

his brain would reveal lesions (black spots).

But in any case, if I were a Department of Homeland Security investigator trying to establisha connection - where none exists - between an imprisoned, mental defective young

person and American Renaissance, I would employ methods use by investigators during the

pre-school pedophilia panic of 80s. These techniques produced thousands of arrests and

almost no convictions. The proto-typical case was McMarin Preschool.

Heres how McMartin investigators confirmed their own strong suspicions from

Wikipedia:

The interviewing techniques used during investigations of the allegations were highly

suggestive and invited children to pretend or speculate about supposed events. By spring of

1984, it was claimed that 360 children had been abused Later research demonstrated thatthe methods of questioning used on the children were extremely suggestive, leading to false

accusations. Others believe that the questioning itself may have led to false memory syndrome

among the children who were questioned.

http://tinyurl.com/2felke

If DHS investigators have a suspect with a child-like mind with no direct connection to

Amren but still have strong suspicions of such a connections, why not confirm those

suspicions with McMartin techniques?

It certainly worked for the McMartin prosecutors - until it all came tumbling down.


This memo was concocted for the sole purpose of getting disinformation out for political

mileage.

Thats what our political discourse has come to. Shameful, disgraceful opportunists. Wretched

business all around.

I first heard of this fabricated connection - of the Arizona murderer to AmRen - from Juan

Williams this morning on Fox News Sunday.

All this reporting is so ridiculous it comes off as a frantic and deliberate attempt to get some

eyes off the ball and focused somewhere else.

I pray for all the victims as well as their loved ones.


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42 Clytemnestra wrote at 4:48 PM on January 9:

Why is the media NOT focusing on why Gabrielle Giffords was really targeted for

assassination by Jared Loughner? Look at her. Until the shooting, few knew Gabrielle

Giffords-Kelly was Jewish. She does not look, sound, or act like an east coast NYC liberal.

She looks like any fresh-faced, Midwest matron youd find at an evangelist church. This blue

dog Democrat, was careful to straddle slightly left of the issues to offer the least offense toanyone, like the Democrat version of Elizabeth Hasselbeck. So why did she arouse this

whackos ire? Could it be, that even with her Democrat Party affiliation, she more closely

resembled a Neoconservative Republican? IMO, shes the Democrat that RINO, John

McCain, should have been if he were more conservative!

Giffords has a very cozy relationship with a lot of Arizona Republicans who even

uncharacteristically endorsed her for re-election rather than actively fielding and running a

candidate against her. The RINO Rule 101 in Getting Elected has always been to run a

campaign to the right, but govern center-left. Well, it looks to me like Giffords won her seat in

a conservative state like Arizona by employing this gambit, confusing and angering her leftist

shooter.

More attention needs to be called to his angry she is dead to me diatribe he posted after she

defied Pelosi to get re-elected. Pelosi wasnt fooled; she went out of her way to recruit blue

dog Democrats to lure conservatives away from RINO Republicans, knowing that these

Freshman Democrats could/would not buck her on anything important. Giffords didnt fool

Pelosi, but she DID fool Jared Loughner!

IS DAILY KOS INVOLVED IN ARIZONA MURDERS? My CongressWOMAN voted

against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me! eerie Daily Kos hit piece on Gabrielle

Giffords just two days before assassination attempt; repeated use of word

This nonsense with Loughner reminds me of how violent and vindictive the Left is prepared

to get against ANY woman they think is straying off their plantation. There was Playboys

leftist writer, Guy Cimbalos hate sex fantasy concerning ten Conservative women he would

like to rape:

Obama promised us the dream of post-partisanship-a cuckoo land where party affiliation and

factional animosity were forgotten. Turn on cable news or open any newspaper, however, and

youll quickly discover that the dream has yet to materialize. But there is a way to reach

across the aisle without letting principles fall by the wayside. We speak, naturally, of the hate

f***. We may despise everything these women represent, but g*dd****t theyre hot. Let thehealing begin.

May I add that ALL the women the Left want to discipline in this despicable fashion are

Neoconservatives, relentlessly cheering the War on Terror and shaking their pom-poms for

Middle Eastern wars?

From this POV, literally raping a treacherous whore like Gabrielle Giffords was not an

option for a homosexual like Jared Loughner, but a symbolical, metaphorical rape was. Freud

would have a field day with this. The very shape of a gun barrel is phallic and the area

encompassing the trigger is testicular in shape. It stands to reason that he purchased a handgun

as a surrogate male organ, filled it with bullets as lead semen so that he could forciblyenetrate Giffords bod in the miso nist fashion called for b the Loon Left.


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43 An American citizen... wrote at 4:50 PM on January 9:

Why attack American Renaissance for what an evil loner has done? My husband and I

attended one of your conferences several years ago only to be threatened outside the building

by a group who disagreed that equality for all should include Caucasians. Police were brought

in for participants protection. I remember Dr. Levy, a professor and guest speaker, who

needed protection at his university for presenting the truth about race relations. I alsoconversed with several Orthodox Jewish participants who were impressed with the way the

conference presented Jews as a race and a religion. Everyone had a chance to ask experts on

race relations any question. In order to learn more, I bought the book RACE, EVOLUTION,

AND BEHAVIOR by another guest speaker J. Philippe Rushton. Has any one informed the

authorities that his book is being used by the Baltimore City Police Department so police

officers may better understand race relations? The seminar was very informative and

professional. At least there were dialogues and not racist monologues that squash freedom of

expression in favor of one race over another.

At first, I used my real name on this post, but changed it to An American citizen after

remembering the harassment received from others outside your professional conference on

race relations. That is the real shamea citizen is threatened for being a Caucasian. But then

so is every patron of American Renaissance.


NYT: http://tinyurl.com/2a338ne

The suspect has been working up contempt toward Giffords since 2007. A whole year before

anyone south of Juneau knew who Sarah Palin was, and two years before the Tea Party

Movement started brewing. At that time, before she really worked up a voting record,

Giffords was thought to be somewhat conservative (which, as you can read in my own post, I

dont believe anymore.)

45 jack ryan wrote at 5:07 PM on January 9:

The Duke Lacrosse Team was as innocent as American Renaissance is in this. But, look at all

the pain and suffering that occured until the persecution ended.

Please stand strong and stay on offense.

These anti White forces are just testing out their rumor mongering, slanger powers.

Anytime you see these lies, slanders being spread - make the calls, write the letters, send the

faxes and send the e-mails. Never allow lies against our people to go unchallenged.


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46 Mary wrote at 5:19 PM on January 9:

To Jared Taylor and all of you here,

I too am disgusted with Fox news for placing this baseless/outlandish attack on AmRen right

smack on the front page of their website. I can hardly believe it as there is NO evidence at all

to link him in anyway here.Sarah Palin is their number one target now it seems, I am amazed at how much hysterical hate

is being lobbed at her as well, another innocent party.

Good luck with your conference, I would love to be there.

Stay safe friends,

M.

47 Kanwilsal wrote at 5:25 PM on January 9:

As a White South-African with Jewish friends, I was shocked at the ferocious false media

accusations. I have visited this website daily over the years and no one has ever even hinted at

violent action of any kind. We have lots of problems here but I am forced to say, thank God I

live in Africa. Over here we know our media is lying, it seems sad that Americans

unfortunately still trust theres if this type of unfounded smearing they are going to endure by

there news agencies.


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48 WR the elder wrote at 5:30 PM on January 9:

Richard Cohen, CEO and president of the Southern Poverty Law Center, is now working with

the Department of Homeland Security. See this document, and go to the end.

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/hsac_cve_working_group_recommendations.pdf

Our pal Rick is listed right there among the members of the Countering Violent Extremism

Working Group. That document says nothing about stopping jihadists, but does advocate

stepping up programs against hate crimes and extremists. With Cohen defining the terms,

we know what will and will not be regarded as dangerous extremism:

Dangerous extremists:

Any pro-white group whatsoever.

Any anti-illegal immigration group.

Any pro-immigration reduction group.

Any militia.

The Minutemen.Pro gun groups.

Opponents of homosexual marriage.

Constitutionalists.

Tea Party activists.

Ron Paul.

Chuck Baldwin.

Not dangerous extremists:

Advocates for illegal immigration and La Reconquista of the United States, among them

the Brown Berets.

Antifa members who issue death threats against employees of hotels that host a non-violent

pro-white group.

A leftist who writes a screed in which he gloats over the prospect of millions of white

conservatives dying.

Blacks who hold a black nationalist conference, where the speakers include leaders in the

Nation of Islam.

ACORN.

Unrepentant Weather Underground founder, William Ayers.

Now you know why the DHS refuses to control our borders but is hard at work creating a

police state here within America. The left sees the DHS as the perfect vehicle to enforce theiragenda, just as Cheka was for the Soviets.


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49 Grob Hahn wrote at 5:40 PM on January 9:

As pro-white organizations go, American Renaissance has both a broader appeal to more

mainstream white Americans. While it completely avoids any ideology-specific though

engineering. Its no surprise a ready-made script was prepared for this. Its no shock the press

also takes advantage of a crisis. And its no surprise the media has attempted to go after a

pro-white organization with pure lies and opinions instead of verified facts. That DHS hasbungled this is not a shock but it IS terrifying. The fact they are wasting time with AmRen is

very telling.

The fact of the matter is that ALL white people are considered to be racists and must never be

allowed to regain the kind of control they had 60 years ago. Therefore ANY possible

expression of pride in white culture or a desire to advance a white cultural agenda will be

viciously attacked. The barrage doesnt require truth, only tenacity. Eventually whites are

expected to capitulate and then send everyone home from the festival.

All this has done for DHS is made them look like fools while driving people to amren.com tofind the truth for themselves. You just cant buy that kind of promotion, too bad it can

courtesy of a murderous maniac. Its important though that we get the message out

consistently and constantly that Being white is NOT an act of racism.

Grobbbbbbbbbbbb

50 Enoch Powell wrote at 5:53 PM on January 9:

If anybody is to blame for this shooting it is the left-wing fascist Democrats. For decades the

Democrats have been preaching the gospel of the empowered victim (read loser). This isstraight out of Lenins book of tactics. Victimhood has been defined as sainthood by the

leftists and anyone who feels left out or marginalized now has a reason to feel that they are

morally superior. They have learned this in government schools. Many victims will also feel

entitled to violently lash out. We see it all the time now and its always those who feel that the

world owes them an apology, a living, recognition, etc. The shooters at Columbine definitely

fit the leftists profile of self-proclaimed, self-righteous victims/beautiful losers and Ill bet

you this latest shooter does too.

Of course its usually lively, vibrant diverses who feel justified about acting out violently

especially against Whites, but at this point anyone who feels they are a victim has been

empowered by left-wing fascists to take revenge any way they see fit. This is just one moredisgusting facet of the evil left-wing narrative espoused by the Democrats.

And of course the leftists cant blame themselves. They have no morals or ethics and dont

really care who gets killed as long as they can blame somebody besides themselves. Just look

at the deadly nature of ObamaCare and any other leftist legislation for that matter. This is also

consistent with the leftists plan to make it illegal to defend ourselves against violent attack.

Leftists would much rather we be killed by insane, self-proclaimed victims or just common

criminals (also the darlings of the left). Leftists are all liars, cheats and thieves.


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WaPo: http://tinyurl.com/2fttceq

The suspect was disruptive and disorderly in an algebra class he took at Pima Community

College this past summer.

Personally, this is probably material he should have mastered by the end of his first year in

high school.


Thanks to this memo, American Renaissance is the 8th most searched phrase on Google

today.

53 Mike wrote at 6:07 PM on January 9:

I cant tell is this is media bias or just political ignorance.

Even if the killer was an AmRen reader and an immigration restrictionist (and there is no

evidence he was) why would he want to kill a blue dog democrat who was moderately

supportive of tougher immigration laws and was a friend of Arizonas governor? Wouldnt he

pick someone who was explicitly open borders?

If there was any ideological motivation to this killing, it was because the victim was a

progressive on economic matters and the killer was vaguely libertarian in their opposition to

socialised medicine and paper currency not backed by gold. However, dont expect anynuanced political analysis by todays MSN. Anything which goes beyond a simple binary left

v right portrayal of politics is way too much for them.

54 Fred wrote at 6:10 PM on January 9:

Loughner is obviously mentally ill. Theres no more to it than that. Just read his comments

where he gets worked up about grammar (grammar?). I suspect any politician who was at that

location near to Loughners home would have been the target on that day.

55 John PM wrote at 6:27 PM on January 9:

Personally, I think it all does boil down to incompetence. Somehow, someway, because Mr.

Taylor has the first name Jared, like this Marxist loon and murderer, a connection was made.

An unfortunate and idiotic connection to be sure, but what else is to be expected?

As always, God help us all!


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56 Whiteplight wrote at 6:29 PM on January 9:

I have posted on Amren since 2006. I have subscribed since 2009. I have observed that while

some posters have made anti-Jewish remarks, I have never seen an article or editorial that was

anti-Jewish or concerned itself with any conspiracy theory about Jewish national or

international takeover or control.

Here is what I think is going on - my two cents, if you will;

The Southern Poverty Law Center has declared war on Amren, and perhaps on Jerrod Taylor

personally. I just saw reports this morning on both CNN and Fox News that mention SPLC

and their opinion on the shootings. Fox News is currently (3:15pc PST) reporting on the

SPLCs accusation of Amren as a watched hate group. Fox represented SPLC as an org that

tracks hate groups. (Again, why arent they helping poor people?) The latest article presented

here on Amren concerning SPLC was about their $190 million dollar in assets and an offshore

bank account.

It looks like the confrontation is nearing. They called Amren a fake thinktank. Fox Newsdid post Mr. Taylors response in a shorter version. But the way it was done appeared overall

to be damaging. The net effect will likely be that more Independents will find Amren to see

for themselves. This is one good reason that posters should think a moment before they hit the

POST button. The SPLC no doubt would like all posters on Amren to be watched by them

using Federal funds as a contracting agency. What a scam!

57 BannerRWB wrote at 6:59 PM on January 9:

39-Fred: Id like to know where DHS is getting its information. I have the same question. I

can not imagine that Janet Napolitano herself has enough specific awareness of AmRen to

have agreed to post such a comment. Also, if she had done research on AmRen herself, Im

sure she wound NOT have allowed such a comment to be made in the name of her

organization. (I admit, I do have a little faith left in her, although it is wearing quite thin at this

point.) Someone within her staff has a decidedly anti-American, anti-White bias and she is

either wholly clueless as to how that individual (or group) is leading her around, or she herself

is truly an anti-American, way-left zealot. Also, this current DHS posting reminds me of the

briefing she gave in the past where her great fear was that of seeing Middle-aged, White,

retired Military types becoming the next set of terrorists Again, I just do not believe that

she came up with that herself; someone inside DHS (or else a contracted analyst type

organization) is feeding her this stuff, and shes taking it in, hook, line and sinker, and thenpushing it out as if she has some great level of knowledge. Otherwise, for all you DHS

analysts who may now be reading these postings, when searching for terrorists, please

consider looking at other groups, such as, oh, maybe, Muslim Charity organizations with

ties to the Middle East? Maybe the Black Panther Deny Whitey the vote folks? Both of

those sound like real pro-America type organizations. Otherwise though, for DHS to post such

blatant non-truths about AmRen is just appalling and for whoever the DHS analysts are on

this one, they need to get a new job.


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58 Eric wrote at 7:08 PM on January 9:

If anyone out there is still hesitant to believe that the press lives in a world of extreme

leftwing bias, just compare the media reaction of this shooting with that of the Fort Hood

attack.

When this happened I knew that it would turn out the shooter was a) mentally ill and b) eitherleft-wing or apolitical, much like a Mark David Chapman type. I also realized that no matter

the what the instance, this event was going to be used to demonize those that the leftist media

hate the most, the white-middle class movement called the tea party. I was right on both

accounts, now I see that AmRen is the latest to be slandered. Fellow AmRenners know the

score, they wouldnt hate us if we werent telling the truth.

59 NiveusVir wrote at 7:09 PM on January 9:

Mr. Taylor and American Renaissance, you have one of the finest publications out there. Its

apparent that every day youre focused on honesty and integrity - two things that most in themedia despise.

In the two years that I have been a subscriber, I do not recall one instance of any thing at all

encouraging violence or hatred from American Renaissance. The discussion and

encouragement of violence here is not minimal; its nonexistent.

I believe the critics and the agenda-driven media most fear honesty, something that is

abundant here. Its your decency that has placed you on their list. Your intelligent approach

has made them desperate.

They are looking for any angle they can find to make things difficult for you. You arecertainly aware of their types MO.

You have many loyal supporters, and you have earned that following, as a result of your

decency. Keep up the good work.


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60 E-Nomad wrote at 7:34 PM on January 9:

This entire issue is very reminiscent of that scandal a few years back concerning the first

Mass Effect game.

Fox News came on out, brought in a distinguished guest and together they went through the

night declaring it the most pornographic game ever created.

Said guest later recanted her statements when it became obvious (through a large public

outcry)that the game didnt even feature any genuine nudity, let alone pornographic content.

The entire issue was heavily overblown, Probably on purpose to gather an audience and boost

ratings.

At the end of it all, Fox looked like the stooges they are, and life carried on.

And theyre at it again.

For the same exact reason. Ratings.

With just as much concrete proof they had last time.

Zero.


I think it would be a good idea for you to hold a press conference on Monday to not only

denounce this nonsense, but also to set the record straight about AmRen.

This is an ideal time (they rarely come about) to introduce AmRen to the American public and

show how this organization is not about hate, but rather about love - love for our heritage, our

culture, and for liberal Western democracy, which we are trying hard to preserve.

62 Right Again wrote at 7:44 PM on January 9:

Ive warned many times on this site that the Diversity Loving Feds (they say they love

Diversity, but dont expect elite White fed employees to ever surrender their own jobs in the

name of embracing Diversity) will shut down Amren and all unapproved websites. All they

need is a flash point event, and this shooting is the one.

The good news is, lets hope that the Amren connection will drive some traffic your way so

that more of White Humanity can see the good work you are doing in moving the country in

the right direction to a better future when most Whites openly declare any support of

Affirmative Action as hate speech.


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63 Formulaic Resistance wrote at 7:56 PM on January 9:

Youve got a case here for libel. Demand justice. Use the most power force on the planet:

progressive rhetoric of victimology.

Use the Civil Rights / Restorative Justice trick and get results.

Make your demands thus: demand they recognize their error, then demand they acknowledge

the hurt they caused, then demand they apologize to you, then demand restoration of your

good name, and do it all while saying We cant heal as a society until DHS does the right

thing. We have more work to do. Our work is unfinished. We are marching forward to a better,

more equitable and just society, but we must all first heal from this ugly episode of bigotry

and intolerance. On then can reconciliation begin as we live our commitment to universally

held values.

The whiners have been winning in this country since 1946. We have enough evidence by nowto see how they use language tricks to get what they want. Learn how to whine like the

winning whiners!


At least one news organization appears to be honest about this situation. Fox News just

displayed an excellent discussion about this organization, its beliefs, and reported that Mr.

Jared Taylor was called and answered all questions. Thank You, Mr. Taylor and may all of this

nonsense soon cease.


I am so grateful that I found this site, and even more grateful that it actually exists and that

there are still a few people around that understand where this country is really headed. There

is nothing racist about this site as there are thousands of organizations with the same ideals for

other races, yet because whites want to stand up and be heard, we are labeled racist.

I live in Portland OR and will be looking into finding out if there are members from this area

that would like to get together.

God bless us all.Peace!

DS


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66 Susan Cummings wrote at 8:04 PM on January 9:

In the land of OZ, it is always opposite of what they say, write and express. I have never heard

of AMRE, but did decided to find out for myself; and though I may not agree with some of

your beliefs, I do not believe the shooter of the Arizona tragedy had any affiliation to this

organization; if anything, you may have been targeted due to your association with the

TeaParty, and your stance on illegal immigrants. Again, its important to think in terms of thereverse, or opposite. This organization is against illegal immigrants, etc., and the fact this

event took place in Arizona tells me something more cynical is really happening.


Observations:

The perp is an obvious schizophrenic. His vague thoughts on mind control are almost

diagnostic.

Maybe Amren has a friend at Fox. Publishing an obvious false accusation was an enormous

favor to Amren and should expand readership substantially. If you are white and you have had

some feelings of injustice, you will learn much here.

I hope that Hannity and others bring the fact that this other Jared read the Communist

Manifesto to the publics attention many times.


Good for you Jared at least that creep st splc is honest.You are the furthest thing from Anti-Semitic.

And I never understood Amren to be against the existence or for hatred of other racesjust

sensible about intergroup conflict and the need to pursue policies that make sense instead of

nonsense.


http://tinyurl.com/22oxu7u

From Fox News


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63: There is still the unresolved matter about the leftist terrorism against the AR conference

last year. DHS was supposed to be investigating that. If DHS really was behind this memo

(and its not yet clear they were), then a civil rights/libel suit could be brought against DHS,

(there is sovereign immunity, but the civil rights laws create an exemption), and that is the

stick to the carrot of forcing DHS to get rolling on this investigation, among other things. Ifthey find out the particular leftist goons, then AR can sue them for tortious interference. (I.E.

of the contract between AR and the first hotel).

66: I only speak for myself, but my general observation about ARs view of the Tea Party

Movement is ambivalence. Which matches my own opinion, incidentally. There are plenty of

stories and archived comments here to demonstrate that.


It is expected, and unfortunate, that the left have decided to use the horrific behavior of aderanged just-over-teenager to demean and marginalize all Americans and conservatives who

want to protect and defend our constitutional rights, and our belief in limited government and

free speech.

They have targeted Sarah Palin, and branded all conservative commentators as culprits in a

conspiracy that they have concocted to explain the behavior of a young man who, on his own,

decided to murder innocent people.

Even the friends of the congresswoman are citing the cause of this event as being based on

conservative thought or ideals.

We as a nation are experiencing what those in Nazi Germany experienced as power hungry

national socialists blamed all of Germanys problems on jews, and used their beliefs to engage

in similar mass murder. The left now has the support of homeland security, and other

democrat leaders, and a large number of liberals who are looking to blame someone, or

some group for the anti-social behavior of a single person. It doesnt solve any problem to do

this, but it does make it clear that the left is irrational, hateful, and dangerous to our freedoms.

72 Courtney from Alabama (formerly known as Courtney) wrote at 8:47 PM on January 9:

Every time the media pulls something like this, they just give us thousands of more converts

to our cause by publicizing the website. Chances are, most people who come check this

website out will find it harmless, and that they actually agree with it.


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Hi .A bit of topic but still on topic as far as How far will the left go to smear or silence

opposition. Tonight the UK police removed the official BNP candidate from Oldham at the

request of the labour party candidate, the BNP candidate had done nothing wrong apart from

oppose government policy - we have one party with three names otherwise known as the

LibLabCon - and highlight the plight of young white children who are being raped by gangsof immigrants. It seems the police in Britain now have a mandate to interfere in the political

process.


2 Susan:

After this weekend, Im re-evaluating my position about legalizing weed. Im certainly glad I

never developed that habit. Even if weed was legal, I highly doubt I ever would have, because

I have known that it is a dangerous mind-altering drug, and even more dangerous if one, likethis suspect seems, to have the genetic predisposition to schizophrenia. Probably the right

paradigm is that using/possessing isnt criminal but users are forced into detox, while dealers

and big time transporters are punished severely. There simply must be some sort of societal

cue against this stuff.

BTW, there is no such thing as medical marijuana, and there never has been. There is a

legal prescription drug called Marinol, that gives the benefits of the resin of the cannabis plant

for those who are suffering maladies that medical weed is said to alleviate, but isolate only

the theraputic compounds and leave out the hallucinogenic. Im beginning to think that

medical marijuana is the last refuge of a habitual stoner.

75 Christopher wrote at 8:54 PM on January 9:

Once again Jared Taylor stands heads and shoulders above his detractors.

The DHS memo is clearly intended as a smear campaign against AR.

It is shameful that Fox News chose to air this lie, while the person responsible is likely rolling

over laughing that the main-stream media went on air with a memo containing Anti-ZOG.

Shameful.


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76 Super Dave wrote at 8:55 PM on January 9:

The DHS has morphed into a left wing dirty tricks and smear machine under the Obama

administration. I call on them to drop the pretense of non-partisanship and merge with

ACORN, La Raza, NAACP and SPLC. Perhaps if the DHS busied themselves with actually

guarding this nations borders and protecting Americans from the Mexican drug cartels &

criminals instead of monitoring and harassing right wing and pro-white organizations then wewouldnt have a state of anarchy on the U.S.- Mexican border.

The left wing hyperventilators at the Huffington Post are already circulating the Amren-Jared

Loughner connection as established fact. Wouldnt it be poetic justice if we were ever to learn

that Loughner was an avid reader of the Huffington Puff (sic) and Daily Kos?

77 John wrote at 8:56 PM on January 9:

Fox News and The Huffington Post are living proof that American society is rapidly

devolving. At the current rate of decline, well probably see Marvel Comics become a leadingnews source in two to three generations. God help us all

Hang tough Amren! You are and will continue to be a beacon of reason.


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Thinking about what 66 and 71 say above, for those of you who are new, and once again, I

speak only for myself, there is really no great love for Sarah Palin here. The main reasons are

immigration related She approved the opening of a Mexican consulate office in Anchorage

while she was Governor, she said that deporting illegal aliens was inhumane, and while he

supported SB 1070 and Gov. Jan Brewer in theory, she turned right around and endorsed JohnMcCain, Mr. Amnesty and Open Borders, for Senate. (Some of her apologist use the excuse

that she had to, because she was his running mate in 2008, and if she picked Hayworth, she

would open herself up to flack that she demanded that we make John McCain President in

2008 yet hes somehow not qualified to be a U.S. Senator in 2010. Maybe so, but her

problems of political expediency are of no care to me Politics to me arent games or

amusements, theyre real life with real actions and real consequences. She might be playing

for fun, but we should be playing for keeps.)

A few of us take issue with her unqualified support for endless Middle Eastern military

involvement. And it is perfectly clear that she would govern as a racial egalitarian as

President, therefore, nothing will really get better.

As it is, when she resigned as Alaska Governor a year and a half ago, that was tantamount to

her announcing she was not running for President, and she knew it. Its far more lucrative for

her not to be President than to be. And it raises the obvious question: If she cant handle the

heat of AK-GOV, how can she handle the heat of the White House, which is way hotter?

Personally, I think the 2012 Republican nominee will be a dark horse, someone that not even

one in 10,000 people could recognize by name right now. That someone will be either way

more or way less conservative than the Republican Party lamestream He or she would have

to be either one of those things in order to differentiate him or her self from the speculatedcontenders, who are all pretty much neo-con/lamestream conservative copies of each others.

Again, thats just me.

79 just me wrote at 9:05 PM on January 9:

While sure I dont agree with everything Ive read on this site I like to visit to check out

different viewpoints. I visit left wing and many other liberal and conservative websites for the

same reason: to consider the opinion of others.

Ive never read a single word on this site advocating any kind of violence. In fact when Iveseen Mr. Taylor on Russia Today he came across as one of the most respectful and eloquent

speakers Ive ever heard.

The irony is that the only violence associated with this AmRen thing is the rabble that tries to

disrupt the peaceful assembly and 1st amendment rights of the AmRen conferences. Where

are the authorities when they are really needed to protect civil and Constitutional rights?

Sadly, no where to be found.


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85 John Engelman wrote at 9:26 PM on January 9:

If this matter brings more people to American Renaissance, it will be a good thing.

Nevertheless, people should access the website, and make up their own minds about AR.

There are some wild and woolly websites out there on the internet. I belong to one internet

forum where some posters advocate secession from the United States. This is nothing like thathere.

Jared Loughner would probably find American Renaissance too civil for his tastes. I doubt

that one of his rants would have made it past the moderators.


73: Is that related to the special election in the Oldham East & Saddleworth constituency?

From what I read, the Labour Party will win it easily, and in fact, as the Labour candidate

barely won it over the LibDem back in May, this is probably a clue of the Coalitiongovernment not being that popular. So why would the Labour Party candidate care that much

about the candidate of the party that could probably finish no better than fourth? Are they still

worried about the BNP peeling off Labour voters in the long run?

If that Labour candidate does win big, this will probably mean that Cameron and Clegg and

their people will all close ranks, and there will be no early elections, and that the next national

ones wont happen until the promised May 2015. Neither party can afford any election in the

near future, because theyll both lose out.

I recall that back in 2001, a BNP candidate finished in third somewhere in Oldham. Was it that

constituency?

87 Can't think of a good name yet wrote at 10:13 PM on January 9:

What if he was a subscriber? Is one expected to get a mental health report before processing

an order for a subscription to a newsletter? Absurd.

Hope this isnt the start of yet another anti-free speech campaign, but I wouldnt mind a few

more people checking out AR because they read the Homeland Security agents rot. Wonder if

the government is that stupid!


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JD Hayworth was just on the Bill Cunningham show. He said that the Sheriff of Pima County,

the good leftist Hispanic-loving hack, by running his mouth, has probably ensured that the

Federal justice system could never give this suspect the death penalty. Judge Roll was

murdered, but the Nutty Sheriff says that his presence at the Safeway was incidental, meaning

that the suspect didnt or couldnt have deliberately murdered a Federal judge, meaning nofirst-degree murder with Federal object. Of course, Congresswoman Giffords is going to make

it (knock on wood), and its clear that the suspect targeted her. But since shes going to live,

no Federal death penalty is possible.

This is why I want the state to have first crack at him. All the state prosecutor has to do is

prove premeditated murder of any person within the state.


Arent there something like over a million acts of violence against whites by people of colorevery year? Why is it always whites or conservatives who must scale back the dangerous and

hateful rhetoric? Doesnt the overwhelming amount of violence against whites count for

anything. Now they are engaging in group attacks and gang rapes.

Why is it considered divisive to want to end affirmative action programs? Now opposing this

or that health care plan is divisive. This is just more whites are bad. People of color are

good, propaganda. Now even our ideas are bad and shouldnt be heard. As if they havent

been being silenced anyway.

90 M wrote at 10:31 PM on January 9:

I dont know if you can libel a publication.

And for those bashing Fox News why? Theyve broken the left-wing chokehold on the

news and struck fear into the hearts of the left-wing haters. Theyre on our side.

I love AR. I have been subscribing to it for 17 years. But as valuable as it is, it does not have

have the reach of a network with 3 million viewers.

Do we want to go back to the time when news was news only if Walter Cronkite and the New

York Times said it was?


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Have to correct myself in 88 Dont think the state can do Murder 1 either, b/c the suspects

only target is going to live. If there is no evidence that he targeted Judge Roll, and, assuming

the loose lip Sheriff is right, there can never be, no jurisdiction could pursue the death penalty.

AZ can bring six counts of Murder 2 and one count of attempted murder, and the Feds canbring one count of Murder 2 of a Federal judge and one count of attempted murder of a

member of Congress. That should be enough to keep him confined for the rest of his life, and

Im guessing in prison, it wont be a long one.

92 West wrote at 11:19 PM on January 9:

As others have said, you should thank the incompetence that led to you being publicized. Im

one of those whod never heard of you.

Still, its strange to see all the attacks on FoxNews. I thought I might be at a liberal site. Whatdo you want, perfection? Or to win the battle against political-correct bigotry?

Why not use this opportunity to expose the Pima County Sheriff as an ardent reverse-racist

who calls the states anti-illegals law racist, disgusting and stupid and says he wont

enforce it? Yet he complains about so-called vitriol from conservatives. Why not expose how

the AP is slanting the coverage all that it can? Liberalism is all about hypocrisy and double-

standards and that is openly on display for this crime.

Besides, did anybody actually read Greta von ACLUs blog? Some staffer (aka colleague)

named Jennifer Griffin could have spent very little time to discover Jared Taylors statements

on Jews and AmRen. But she didnt. Id bet shes in the automatic mode of liberals whotarnish conservatives as racist at every turn. She messed up. You all should be glad. Jared

Taylor should get some serious air time out of this, as the innocent victim of the mess-up who

gets to publicize AmRen. For goodness sakes, take 1 or more Jews to the studio as well. Rub

the medias nose in it.


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93 Mike Harrigan wrote at 11:27 PM on January 9:

First, my condolences go out to the survivors of those murdered in this terrible incident and

my prayers go out for the complete recovery of those who survived this madman.

What kind of irresponsible reporting has Fox News sank to? I would expect this type ofhatchet job reporting from cnn, msnbc, cbs, nbc, and the rest of the extremely biased

mainstream media. But Fox News?? They have at least APPEARED to be fair in the past. I

guess this means they have joined the ranks of the rest of the med

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