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All About DiceDice have been around for at least 5000 years and are used in many games.
Knucklebones of animals, which are approximately tetrahedral in shape were used – and still are in some countries.
All About DiceSix sided dice have become common place, but it is possible to make dice with different numbers of sides.
Platonic solids are often used as the regularity of their shape makes them ‘fair’.
All About DiceWhen rolling 2 six-sided dice, how many different possible totals are there? Are they all equally likely?
Rolling a double is often the way to start a game, or to get out of some difficulty, how likely is it that you will roll a double?
Rolling a ‘double six’ is even more challenging, how likely is it?
All About DiceOne way to obtain all the possible outcomes is through using a two-way table.
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
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All About DiceIt is obvious from the table that the chance of obtaining a total of 12 is far less than the chance of obtaining a total of 7.
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All About DiceIs it possible to put values on the dice so that the different totals obtained are all equally likely?
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All About DiceThis is one way, but it’s probably not very helpful for use in a game for everyone to always roll the same!
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All About DiceCould you make two different totals?
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All About DiceThis is a solution…
However, it’s probably not that useful for a game, and die B is redundant because whether you get the higher or lower total is determined by die A.
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2 3 3 3 4 4 4
2 3 3 3 4 4 4
2 3 3 3 4 4 4
2 3 3 3 4 4 4
2 3 3 3 4 4 4
2 3 3 3 4 4 4
Die AD
ie B
All About DiceThere are 36 different outcomes and so far we have seen:• 1 total in 36 different ways• 2 totals, each in 18 different ways
Thinking about the factors of 36, the number of different outcomes could potentially be:
1 2 3 4 6 9 12 18 36
Using any numbers, could you devise 2 dice so that there are 36 different totals? Can they be 1 to 36?
All About DiceHere’s one solution:
Again, it’s probably not that useful for a game.
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12 13 14 15 16 17 18
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
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Die AD
ie B
All About DiceWhich of the following could dice be created to give:• 3 totals, each in 12 different ways?• 4 totals, each in 9 different ways?• 6 totals, each in 6 different ways?• 9 totals, each in 4 different ways?• 12 totals, each in 3 different ways?• 18 totals, each in 2 different ways?
A restriction is that neither die can have the same number on all 6 faces.
All About DiceHere are some solutions, but there are many others:
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0 1 2 3 4 5 6
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
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0 1 2 3 4 5 6
0 1 2 3 4 5 6
0 1 2 3 4 5 6
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
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All About DiceHere are some solutions, but there are many others:
+ 1 1 2 2 3 3
0 1 1 2 2 3 3
0 1 1 2 2 3 3
3 4 4 5 5 6 6
3 4 4 5 5 6 6
6 7 7 8 8 9 9
6 7 7 8 8 9 9
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0 1 1 2 2 3 3
0 1 1 2 2 3 3
3 4 4 5 5 6 6
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All About DiceHere are some solutions, but there are many others:
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0 1 1 1 2 2 2
0 1 1 1 2 2 2
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2 3 3 3 4 4 4
2 3 3 3 4 4 4
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All About DiceIn a very simple dice game, you and your opponent choose a die each and then roll it. The one who rolls the highest number wins.It couldn’t be simpler!
On the next slide are the nets of the 3 dice.Which one would you choose and why?
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All About DiceYou might like to make the dice and test them out to see which one wins most often.
Checking it mathematically, we could again use two-way tables.
Complete the tables on the following slides, recording which dice would win each time.
All About Dice
Yellow wins ___ timesBlue wins ___ times
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All About Dice
Blue wins ___ times Red wins ___ timesRed wins ___ times Yellow wins___ times
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All About DiceThis might seem quite unusual:• Yellow is better than blue• Blue is better than red• Red is better than yellow
This is a special set of dice and such sets are called ‘non-transitive dice’.
It’s a bit similar to the ‘Rock, paper, scissors’ game where there is no best item overall, it depends on what the other person has.
All About DiceIn a variation of the game, there are 3 players who each have one of the dice. They roll the dice at the same time, the highest number wins.
Which die would you choose?
You might like to make the dice to test them.
Can you think of a way to find all the possible outcomes?
All About DiceOne approach is to construct a tree diagram, as shown on the following slide, another is to list all the outcomes systematically in a table.
Each number appears twice on each dice, but has only been listed once as they are all equally likely. (If we listed them twice, we’d simply repeat the tree or the table; would this make a difference to the final probabilities?)
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Check along each of the branches to find out which colour wins each time.
Yellow Blue Red2 1 32 1 52 1 72 6 32 6 52 6 72 8 32 8 52 8 7
4 1 34 1 54 1 74 6 34 6 54 6 74 8 34 8 54 8 7
9 1 39 1 59 1 79 6 39 6 59 6 79 8 39 8 59 8 7
All About DiceThe result for this may also be surprising.Yellow and Blue are equally as good as each other, winning 10 times out of 27 and Red is slightly worse, winning 7 times out of 27.
All About DiceThere are other sets of numbers that create non-transitive dice.Another set of 3 non-transitive dice are given on the next slide and then a set of 4 non-transitive dice are on the following slide. These are known as ‘Efron’s Dice’ after Bradley Efron who devised them.They are given in order, so that each die is beaten by the previous one.What is the probability of winning each time?If all 3 (or all 4) dice are used, is there a ‘best’ or worst’ die?
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Teacher notes: All about diceThis activity looks at six sided dice and students consider variations of numberings including sets of ‘non-transitive’ dice. Many of the activities are problem solving in nature.
It is assumed that students are familiar with the outcomes when rolling two dice, but the activity begins with a few questions to consider to recap on this before moving on.
Teacher notes: All about Dice
» Students should have the opportunity to discuss this with a partner or in a small group
» Students should sketch or calculate (as appropriate)
Teacher notes: All about diceSlide 4: students should discuss. This is a short opportunity to recap on previous learning.Answers: not all equally likely. Chance of a double is 6/36 (or 1/6). Chance of a double six is 1/36.
Slide 13: Different groups of students could be set different ones to tackle. This problem solving activity is trying to help students really understand the structure of what happens to the totals.
Questions: • Is it possible to make all the totals consecutive?• Is it possible to make all the totals consecutive even numbers?
Teacher notes: All about diceSlide 18: students should discuss and justify their responses. This should prove interesting as there is no ‘best’ die. The ‘right’ answer is that you should choose your die based on what your opponent has chosen – similar to Rock, paper, scissors – which students may be familiar with. (As an aside, The Big Bang Theory explains a development of this game: Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock.)Each dice beats the subsequent one with a probability of 5/9
Slide 28: the set of 3 dice are very similar to the original set of 3 in that they also have a probability of beating the subsequent on with a probability of 5/9, but this time there is one die which is best if all 3 are thrown together – the blue die has an 11/27 chance of winning whilst the other two each have an 8/27 chance of winning.
Teacher notes: All about dice
Slide 28: (cont) with the 4 dice, each one beats the following one with a probability of 2/3 of winning.
If all 4 dice are rolled, C will win 4/9 of the time, D will win 3/9 of the time and A will win 2/9 of the time. B will never win.
Acknowledgements
Dice pictures from http://www.laputanlogic.com/articles/2004/12/011-0001-6358.html
Pictures and info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice#mediaviewer/File:Knuck_dice_Steatite_37x27x21_mm.JPG