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jiaren0826

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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:18 am Download Post  Post subject: Airship

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Airship is the best way to SurviveScientists discovered in terrane records , the latest Earth's magnetic polesreverse took place in about 780,000 years ago, if then there are a compass,it should point to the north now. The Earth's magnetic poles every 100,000to 300,000 years reversed once, but the cycle is not stable, when will thenext Earth's magnetic pole reverse, it difficult to predict(don't believeNASA). But we know that magnetic has lowered! Scientists to conduct long-term observations of the Earth's magnetic field, they found, the Earth's

magnetic field changes over the past 400 years than in the past 150 years isweakening at a faster rate. Earth's magnetic field is very importance forhumans, there is protected from the solar wind(the high-energy chargedparticles), these particles is very dangerous to people and the satellite.Classical theory holds that the centrosphere is the liquid iron-nickel materialcomposition.Most Scientists believed that the reasons of the magneticreversal is that the centrosphere's speed and direction of movementchanged. At first, the centrosphere do vortex motion in a certain direction,faster and faster, then slower and slower, until a pause for a short time;then moving in another direction for vortex movement, faster and faster,

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and then slower and slower, then pause for a short time, and so on.Obviously, this will cause instability in the crust. The result is earthquakesand volcanic eruptions.If a disaster like movie《2012》really happens, do you have 1 billion ? Can

you get a ticket? In fact, you do not need spend 1 billion to survive in 2012.I designed the "Light of World " airship, the top of the airship is solar cell,this airship use a mixture of hydrogen gas and helium gas, the bottom of theairship is living area composed of the module(3.5mX3mX2.5m (length Xwidth X height)).we provides not only from Budgeted class room to Luxuryclass room for customers, but also for some very special customers,providing ultra-luxury cabin, ultra-luxury cabin will use your own design,

manufactured complete suit to your needs, I believe there is one class foryou always. at the same time, 10% -50% of your pay will be use in theconstruction of relief tank, which try to save people and biology. Airship willbe cruising at an altitude of 8 km on geomagnetic poles, so you can surviveon such a huge disaster.In ordinary time Airship act as the role of luxury Airship, in the disaster ityour best choice for refuge.The airship is now in R&D stage, welcome people to join, or to providevaluable advice. For details, please contact jiaren0826@gmail.com. Somepeople may have no confidence in this airship, in fact, the airship's technicaldon't difficult , we will make the most of existing technology, existing high-tech materials. in addition I would like to introduce TheHindenburg(Registration: D-LZ 129), was the longest flying machines of anykind, as well as the largest airships , length 245 meters, 41 meters high,Volume 200,000 m3,The Hindenburg is Manufactured in 1931-36, March 4,1936 launch flight,we can make it in 1931, so we can make it now!!! Of course, we don't make The Hindenburg. we will make a better airshipbecause of Science and technology's development .

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Hero4Hire4Forum Moderator

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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:44 pm Download Post  Post subject:

Will you take a check drawn on the First National Bank of Uniroyal FirestoneGoodyear? (:sigh:) Utter balderdash! The absolute last place I want to be in

just about any extreme disaster, except possibly very localized flood, is in anair ship. It never ceases to cause me to wonder at these "one hit" supersolution to all our 2012 problems worthless ideas and products folks that liketo roll through here, post spam and junk then never to be seen or heardfrom again. Why yes, we do want and encourage a wide variety of viewpoints, philosophies, thoughts and solutions this one is just ludicrous.

If there is a pole shift (while I do believe pole shifts do occur, I'm not soldon one happening 12/21/2012), the winds (lets not even talk aboutlightening and hail) alone will be at least hurricane strength if not muchstronger. I can just see you floating along in your airship if there is a meteorimpact, super volcano or full out nuclear exchange.

I for one would want to be underground at sufficient elevation and propertopography to avoid flooding. Will one of these air ships have the space andlift capabilities and flight duration ability to carry aloft all of the tools,supplies, food, arms and ammo, building materials, etc. required to start

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rebuilding anew after the calamity? I for one don't see a "possible" 2012related event as a light switch turn on kind of moment. If something doesoccur, it may possibly be years in the unfolding and require multiple years inthe survival and recovery effort.

You will be better served at one of those web sites that believe in faeries,unicorns, elves and dragons. If we come across as the moon beam brigadehere that's unfortunate, because we are NOT! Okay, bring on the indignantresponse.

This is getting to be like the old Gong Show. Perhaps we need to set up apanel of judges. Hey Wookie, you interested in being a talent judge for ournew 2012 version Gong Show? We'll even let you bang the gong. {BONG}NEXT!_________________A knight is sworn to valor. His heart knows only virtue. His blade defendsthe helpless. His might upholds the weak. His word speaks only truth. Hiswrath undoes the wicked. - Old Knight's Code

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jiaren0826

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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:03 pm Download Post  Post subject: Re:

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this is not a "one hit" super solution to all problems,it no such a supersolution except move to another planet.this airship will be cruising at analtitude of 8 km on geomagnetic poles(importance: this is stratosphere) inairship you can survive on earthquakes and super volcano(wish it nothappen in geomagnetic poles）in R&D stage，I do not need customer,I need

copartner.PS: my english is not good,so some of your text i do not understand.

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jiaren0826

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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:46 pm Download Post  Post subject: Re:

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Hero4Hire4:why are you say "Will you take a check drawn on the First National Bank of Uniroyal Firestone Goodyear?",in my country,i know Goodyear just make

tyre.if you think this solutions is just ludicrous. why??of course，this airship do

not carry building materials, etc.this airship will save people.your are right,If something does occur, it may possibly be years in the unfolding andrequire multiple years in the survival and recovery effort.

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DrunkWookiee

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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:01 pm Download Post  Post subject:

Hero4Hire4 wrote:

This is getting to be like the old Gong Show. Perhaps we need to set upa panel of judges. Hey Wookie, you interested in being a talent judgefor our new 2012 version Gong Show? We'll even let you bang thegong. {BONG}NEXT!

LOL I'm in!!!!

There's so many holes in this plan, I'll only bother with pointing out thebiggest which is your altitude of 8km. That altitude increases your weightrequirements, expense, and risks considerably.

8km is 26,667 feet. That's classified as Extremely High altitude. Apressurized cabin and oxygen are mandatory. A 3257 liter aircraft oxygentank, pressurized at 3000 psi weighs approximately 48 lbs (if it's made out

of lightweight kevlar or carbon fiber) and would provide approximately 60man-hours of oxygen if you used an oximizer to conserve rather thancontinuous flow.

I don't know how many people you would carry or how long you would stayaloft but let's say 12 people for 72 hours. That's 15 tanks of oxygen at 720lbs for the tanks alone. That's not counting the weight of all the valves,regulators, manifolds, oximizers, and hoses for 15 tanks.

You'll also need emergency oxygen systems with tanks and masks shouldyou experience a catastrophic depressurization. That adds even moreweight. ACLS type tanks will last approximately 40-90 minutes at sea level.Cut that by about 75% at your altitude. You'd have to perform a rapid

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emergency descent to about 12,000 feet in about 20 minutes or run out of oxygen and possibly face all kinds of nasty altitude related medicalconditions like altitude sickness, motion sickness, hypoxia, pulmonaryedema, and cerebral edema.

You're also increasing your medical requirements due to the abovementioned medical conditions and you'd need appropriate medical supplies(since you can't land and go to a hospital) to treat them like portablehyperbaric chambers, pulse oximeters, chest tubes, and a drill (if cerebraledema is severe enough you're gonna have to DRILL A HOLE IN THEPERSON'S HEAD). More weight. Will you even have a medical professionalon board who is qualified to treat pulmonary and cerebral edema?

If the airship actually starts to go down and crash, you'll not only needparachutes, you'll need HALO gear at that altitude. That could be up toanother 100 lbs of weight per person. It costs $3500 USD for ONE HALOjump. It takes 10 jumps to get freefall certified and I'd imagine it would takeatleast that same amount for HALO certification. Are you going to go

through the added time, expense, and effort to get every passenger not onlyfreefall qualified but also HALO qualified?

Then there's the temperature. Temperature drops 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit forevery 1000 feet in altitude. At 8km you're looking at subzero temperatures.You'll need a heating system (more weight) and every passenger will haveto wear insulated HALO jumpsuits incase you face a catastrophicdepressurization or you have to ditch.

And if you do have to ditch, you'll need appropriate ditch gear for 12 people.Alaskan/Canadian standard ditch kits are the most comprehensive andthey're not cheap or light. Plus you'll need over-water ditch gear likeliferafts, desalinators, shark repellant, and maybe even immersion suits.None of this stuff is cheap or particularly light when it comes to equiping 12people.

With all of the above in mind, lets call it approximately 3000 lbs of extraweight. That's 1.5 TONS. Plus the extra costs of equipment and trainingwhich could run over a million USD for 12 people. Then there's all theincreased risks which are substantial.

The 8km altitude alone is enough to call this plan an epic fail.

GONG!!!!!

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jiaren0826Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:59 am Download Post  Post subject:

we make oxygen,do not carry. we do not need parachutes.the problem yousay we can solve by design.we know the altitude of 8km increases weight requirements, expense.butthat let airship more safe.thsi airship will be a largest airship.

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Wookie!You've exceeded yourself, nicely done. I was VERY impressed. Way to GOfor the score! You get the gold star post award for that rebuttal (whew glad I

wasn't on the receiving end).

jiaren0826I've got to give 0.00005 % of a point for persistence. Here I was thinking

that Wookie had beaten you to a bloody pulp and you would have to quit thedebate field to recover and let your wounds mend, yet I find you’re still inthe squared circle beckoning for more pummeling.

(Note to Wookie: Try not to leave too much of a mess, the cleaning staff wasnot happy the last time you ripped off that other guys arms and legs.)_________________A knight is sworn to valor. His heart knows only virtue. His blade defendsthe helpless. His might upholds the weak. His word speaks only truth. Hiswrath undoes the wicked. - Old Knight's Code

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:47 am Download Post  Post subject:

jiaren0826 wrote:

we make oxygen,do not carry. we do not need parachutes.the problemyou say we can solve by design.we know the altitude of 8km increases weight requirements,expense.but that let airship more safe.thsi airship will be a largest airship.

Ok you're the expert who knows EXACTLY what is going to happen andhence the 8km altitude to avoid it.

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:04 am Download Post  Post subject:

Hero4Hire4 wrote:

Wookie!You've exceeded yourself, nicely done. I was VERY impressed. Way toGO for the score! You get the gold star post award for that rebuttal

(whew glad I wasn't on the receiving end).

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jiaren0826I've got to give 0.00005 % of a point for persistence. Here I wasthinking that Wookie had beaten you to a bloody pulp and you wouldhave to quit the debate field to recover and let your wounds mend, yetI find you’re still in the squared circle beckoning for more pummeling.

(Note to Wookie: Try not to leave too much of a mess, the cleaningstaff was not happy the last time you ripped off that other guys armsand legs.)

LOL YAY ME!!!!

BTW the only "One Hit Super Solution"tm that I've seen that was halfwayplausable was a submarine.

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Hero4Hire4Forum Moderator

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:22 am Download Post  Post subject:

I like that submarine idea myself and lusted after one for a bit. It was just

that 78 million dollar price tag for the one I want (hey if you've got to go, goluxury, no surplus rust buckets used in my plan) custom built by US

Subs.

http://www.ussubmarines.com/submarines/phoenix_1000.php3 

I know I could solicit on the forum for a investor. They can put up themoney for my one stop and only sure fire best solution for all our 2012related survival needs. Perhaps I should consult with a Nigerian or Ghanaian

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adviser to help me put together a proposal and solicitation package._________________A knight is sworn to valor. His heart knows only virtue. His blade defendsthe helpless. His might upholds the weak. His word speaks only truth. Hiswrath undoes the wicked. - Old Knight's Code

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:03 am Download Post  Post subject:

Niiiiiice. I'd want torpedo tubes and/or a deck gun. Or get an old rust bucketmilsurp one that already has tubes for an escort. If you could afford 78million, you could probably drop a few more for the escort boat lol. Hell, just

start your own ark fleet like the one in the film 2012 using submarines lol.

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jiaren0826

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:51 am Download Post  Post subject:

DrunkWookiee wrote:

Hero4Hire4 wrote:

Wookie!You've exceeded yourself, nicely done. I was VERY impressed.Way to GO for the score! You get the gold star post award for

that rebuttal (whew glad I wasn't on the receiving end).

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jiaren0826I've got to give 0.00005 % of a point for persistence. Here Iwas thinking that Wookie had beaten you to a bloody pulp andyou would have to quit the debate field to recover and let yourwounds mend, yet I find you’re still in the squared circlebeckoning for more pummeling.

(Note to Wookie: Try not to leave too much of a mess, thecleaning staff was not happy the last time you ripped off thatother guys arms and legs.)

LOL YAY ME!!!!

BTW the only "One Hit Super Solution"tm that I've seen that washalfway plausable was a submarine.

I think depth charge do not need hit submarine directly because waterpressure.

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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:13 pm Download Post  Post subject:

jiaren0826 wrote:

I think depth charge do not need hit submarine directly because waterpressure.

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I think SAM do not need hit airship directly because shrapnel.

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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:36 pm Download Post  Post subject:

DrunkWookiee wrote:

I think SAM do not need hit airship directly because shrapnel.

I mean tsunami have huge water pressure.

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DavisBenthall

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:27 pm Download Post  Post subject:

Yeah but where the hell do you get a torpedo?caralluma fimbriata | unique article wizard

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