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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA :

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v. : 15 Cr. 317 (KMW)

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DEAN SKELOS and :

ADAM SKELOS, :

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Defendants. :

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Recorded Telephone Calls

ADAM SKELOS Cellphone

Call Date: March 28, 2015

Call Time: 5:19:58 PM

Session Number: 4182

Participants: ADAM SKELOS

DEAN SKELOS

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[Start: 00:45]

ADAM: I'm kind of --

DEAN: What's doing?

ADAM: -- freaking out. Ann's doing the, the

budgeting and stuff, you know --

DEAN: Um-hum.

ADAM: -- going through bills. I'm just kind of

freaking out because --

DEAN: Okay.

ADAM: -- of everything and --

DEAN: Dad's here to help, so just remember.

ADAM: What's -- what helps?

DEAN: I said Dad is here to help.

ADAM: Oh.

DEAN: Don't freak out.

ADAM: No, I don't want that kind of help,

though.

DEAN: I know.

ADAM: Like, I'd rather have a --

DEAN: I know, I know, I know.

ADAM: Yeah (indiscernible)

DEAN: Don't freak out. It'll work out. It

always does.

ADAM: All right.

[STOP: 01:21]

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[START: 02:01]

ADAM: I can't even have a conversation with you

because you're in fucking politics, about everything, you

know, it's just frustrating.

DEAN: It is.

ADAM: You know what --

DEAN: It is.

ADAM: -- I, I, I honestly hate the, the job now.

Like, you've been doing it for 30 something years. I'm

going through a rough time. I want to have a conversation,

just, you know, you could give me real advice rather than

oh, everything'll work out. It sucks.

DEAN: No, I can give you advice. Talk to me.

ADAM: No, no, no, you can't because you can't

talk normally because it's like fucking Preet Bhararas

listening to every fucking phone call. It's just --

DEAN: Yeah.

ADAM: -- fucking frustrating. All right?

DEAN: It is. It is, but I can give you advice.

ADAM: All right. Well, if you think of

something, let me know.

[Stop: 02:42]