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A FUN, FREE-RANGE CONVERSATION ON WELLNESS WITH

AYURVEDA EXPERT SWAMI TIRTHA

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SHOW DESCRIPTION:

The Autoimmune Hour welcomes back Ayurvedic expert Swami Tirtha. He’s

affectionately known as the Orange Cowboy and is the #1 bestselling author

of The Ayurveda Encyclopedia. He has presented to the White House

Commission on alternative medicine and in this visit to The Autoimmune

Hour we have a ‘free-range,’ top of mind chat about creating and

maintaining wellness including:

• What to do with the change of seasons to maintain optimal health,

• How to incorporate seasonal eating,

• How to trust your intuition and what to do about unconscious bias,

• Dealing with the dualities of life and fear

• Ways to recenter your self through energy exercises

Plus so much more….

Swami Sadashiva Tirtha is a monk, a natural-born shaman, healer, and

psychic medium/channel. His mission is to help bring world peace through

each individual finding joy in their heart and peace in their mind. Visit

Swami's website and get a free Tibetan Bowl sound bath meditation mp3 at

https://OrangeCowboy.com

INTERVIEW HIGHLIGHTS

This episode with Swami Tirtha is about the changing seasons and how to adapt to it but, as always, Swami and Sharon go down a few ‘rabbit holes’ to share Swami’s wisdom on a lot of things.

0:03:52.1 They begin with the switch from summer to fall and how we can strengthen ourselves to adapt to the change. Swami connects food ─ what we eat ─ to how we adapt to the changing weather, that when it gets chilly, we eat warmer or cooler foods.

Swami shares some guidelines but says that our intuition is our best guide.


0:10:53.6 Swami now talks about the three different Ayurvedic body types ─ air, fire, and water ─ and how some people especially those with an autoimmune condition have a combination of two or three.

0:16:25.9 Again, he emphasizes that everything, in theory, sounds great but the key is that we have to listen to our intuition and our body and what makes us feel good.

0:22:18.5 At this point, they talk about truisms ─ trusting your intuition and the idea of oneness ─ and as Swami says, “As long as we keep thinking of anything in terms of dualities, we're doing ourselves and our hearts a disservice.” As an example, he pointed out that male and female both have the same challenges when it comes to listening to intuition when Sharon commented that women allow themselves to be talked out of things much easier than men.

0:26:36.1 Swami excitedly shares some of his energy exercises and “seeing light.” Then, the conversation shifts to the “spiritual” with God and the angels and how it's always a better choice to do what God says.

0:41:36.6 Towards the end of the show they talk about taking ownership of one’s own healing and two great mantras ─ “Keep breathing” and “Thank you for making this the best moment possible.”

Finally, Swami tells everyone how to find him, his books, and his website.

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Here's the host of the show, Sharon Sayler.


SHARON SAYLER: Welcome, everyone, to The Autoimmune Hour. Oh my

gosh, another fantastic episode! I am so excited to be with you here on

another episode.

Here we are changing seasons already. It seems like we were at 95 one day,

and the next day, we're at 65. It's a shock at how fast the weather changes

here in the Pacific Northwest. I had to pull out the long sleeves and the

slippers here.

And that's why I asked our dear friend who’s been on several times because

he is just an absolute wealth of knowledge. He is Swami Tirtha, also known

as the “Orange Cowboy.” And he is on today because we're going to talk

about the Ayurvedic perspective of changing seasons and how we can adapt

to it.

I called him the other day and I said, “Brrr, it's cold” and he said, “Yes, and

there things we can do about it.”

Let me introduce Swami. He's a number one bestselling author who has

presented to the White House Commission on Alternative Medicine. His

speaking clients include top medical universities like Johns Hopkins and he

has more than four decades of teaching wellness and consciousness.

He is also a joy expert ─ which you'll absolutely find ─ helping individuals

and groups develop more joy in their lives and improve their personal and

professional lives.

We're going to talk about the emotional, the physical, the financial, the

spiritual ─ the whole gamut ─ today.

He is the author of the Ayurveda Encyclopedia and the Ayurvedic Primer. His

latest book is 21 Days to Joy.

As you, guys, know, we're just going to go down any rabbit hole that Swami

and I feel like. So just buckle your seatbelts.

Welcome, Swami! It's great to have you back.


SWAMI TIRTHA: Joy, joy, joy, Sharon! It's so great to be back.

SHARON: Awesome! Tell us a little bit about what happens when the

seasons change. To me, here, at least, in the Northwest, it seemed like a

very quick change and I wasn’t ready.

SWAMI: It's a very interesting point because, sometimes, the change

happens but it doesn't last. So it suddenly got cold here very fast also in

Upstate New York but, usually, we have an Indian summer where it's warm

again. And so, the time frame that we're looking at is really a key factor.

The 21st, I believe, is the first day of fall. We've got about another week of

summer so, technically, it's a very cold end of summer.

SHARON: Yes, technically! But, brrr, I had to bring these slippers out.

SWAMI: I almost turned the wood stove on. I couldn't bring myself to do it.

So we do want to speak in generalities as opposed to quirks. Just on the

East Coast, we have this big hurricane thing going down south. They're

evacuating people in the South Carolina and North Carolina shorelines.

These are kind of anomalies that are happening as opposed to the

generalities. So please keep that in mind during the conversation today,

folks, because you'll say, “Hey, that's not what's happening” and that may

not be what's happening for a few days but we have to just look at both as

short-term anomalies and, in general, patterns.

SHARON: Since the show does play in podcasts so people could be listening

at a later date than when we're recording it here, talk to us about what

happens when ─ here, at least, in the Northern Hemisphere ─ we're

switching from summer to fall? How do our bodies adapt? Can we help

strengthen our bodies to adapt to the changing weather?

SWAMI: Absolutely! It's such an interesting question. Ayurveda has that

third-eye vision of seeing things. It's like if one thing is coming to a close,

then another thing is starting to open up.


The body is going to go through changes. Just like we have to put on a coat

when it gets chilly or turn the heat on when it gets chilly, we also change

what we eat to warmer or cooler foods.

The tricky part is that it's going to be a little bit of a brain fuzz when we talk

about this because, according to Ayurveda ─ let me use an analogy to start

with just because it doesn't make sense otherwise.

You bake something. You're baking a pie or baking potatoes. When it comes

out of the oven, it says, “Let it cool for some time. It's still cooking inside.”

That's how Ayurveda looks at the fall. There's actually excess heat in our

bodies during the fall time. And the best way I can make sense of it is that

we have the heat of the summer that has heated us up and even though the

temperature outside is starting to cool down, we're still getting hotter

somehow.

I always say, “Try it out for yourself” because only then does it work. And it

really does.

I think the closest thing that makes sense to me because this is one of those

Ayurvedic things that's hard to wrap my head around, quite frankly is what I

call the “concept of the Indian summer.” It does get cooler for a while but,

suddenly, it heats up again. We go back into the seventies or eighties.

The approach that I'm going to share today is the notion that we get hotter

inside of us during the fall time.

SHARON: That's fascinating but I love your metaphor about taking

something out of the oven and letting it cool because it is continuing to cook

for a little while. That makes sense although I have to say my feet didn't

think that this morning. I had to put these slippers on.

SWAMI: Exactly right! I can't give you logical explanations but I do know

that in the fall, many people get the flu and colds. Something weird is

happening and it's not necessarily from the invisible eye.


When I follow the Ayurveda routine, I'll use other therapies as well to just

sort of keep myself in balance.

But something is happening in the fall, for sure. We all go through changes.

And if this works for you, then that's great. We don't know if it works for

everybody but this does work quite a lot.

SHARON: Okay, then let's jump in. What are some of the first things that

we should be thinking about as we prepare ourselves for the fall into the

winter?

SWAMI: For the fall, the people who are fire or Pitta dosha people will feel

this the most. If you're having too much fire, Ayurveda says you balance

that with colder things.

Fire is heat. So have colder things and that would be bitter or astringent or

even sweet taste. Sweet is cooler but it's actually more watery moist. Water

eases the fire and puts out the fire, the excess fire. And bitter and astringent

are cooler and they cool the heat also.

For example, most leafy greens are bitter. I can't even think of a food that's

astringent but they're the ones that make your face go ─

SHARON: Is it a lemon astringent? It does make my face wrinkle.

SWAMI: Sour is another taste that makes your face wrinkle but it's a

different kind of a wrinkle.

SHARON: Sour is not the same as astringent.

SWAMI: For astringent, the only one I know is neem. A neem is an

Ayurvedic herb that's fairly popular in America. If you're not sure between

bitter or astringent, they're both good for you.

So rather than start to bust our brains up here, we'll just say that anything

that's bitter or astringent, you're covered. And it doesn't matter which.

They're both helpful for you.

Goldenseal is extremely better if you're into herbs. If you have some

excessive inflammations or infection, that's something that's very good for it


because the infection or the inflammation is excess heat. Goldenseal is extra

bitter.

So that's an example of how that works.

Sweet foods?

Well, everything from wheat to, of course, whole cane sweets, maple syrup

─ that's why maple syrup comes around for us in the wintertime and we

save it for the fall time, and that's good, too.

SHARON: Fascinating! Are these things that we incorporate into our diet?

We just don't sit there and take two tablespoons of maple syrup. Do we just

incorporate these things that we're talking about into a general diet or do we

have to change our whole diet?

I've always been told to eat with the seasons. This is sort of like when the

cabbages and the squashes are coming out.

SWAMI: Exactly right! It's a really good point. Again, the fire people will

probably just do more of what they're doing.

Ayurveda says it's good to have a little bit of each taste with each meal ─

sweet, sour, salty, pungent, bitter, and astringent, all six tastes.

Again, it's always personal. You have to see how you're feeling. If you're

feeling a little bit heated or off, add a little more of the bitter, astringent, or

sweet.

The Vata people will do better with the sweets because bitter and astringent

really aggravate them. Kapha people do better with the bitter and astringent

and sweets aggravate the cough of the water people.

There are guidelines but we're our own best practitioner. Our intuition is our

best guide.

SHARON: If you're curious ─ he's talking about the Vata people, the water

and all of that ─ go to UnderstandingAutoimmune.com and check out all of

the other beautiful podcasts we have from Swami where he describes them.

We also have a little checklist.


Swami, just briefly, let's give them a couple of tips on the different types.

How would I know if I was fire or water?

SWAMI: The three main types are air, fire, and water. Air is people with air

excesses, what we call an “illness” or an “imbalance.” Excess of air or too

much air would be dryness such as dry skin. Too much air is gas or too

much air in the mind is where the mind is racing around and blowing all over

the place.

SHARON: Isn't that where “airhead” comes from?

SWAMI: And then, the fire people or too much heat would be heat rash,

heartburn, acid reflux, and hot temper. It's very simple to figure out what

your natural constitution or personality is.

Too much water is edema, water in the lungs, excess water retention like

excess weight or too much weight. If you've ever tried walking in water, you

know how slow it is to walk. Water in the brain is lethargy or the couch

potato syndrome and things like that.

SHARON: I just want to go down this rabbit hole for just a second because

I know we're going to get into deeper explanations.

But with autoimmune, sometimes, I would hear, “Yes, there are time when I

have had acid reflux as well as that brain fog as well as swollen ankles.”

Can you be all three when your body is sort of confused with an autoimmune

condition?

SWAMI: Absolutely! Most people are combinations of two and, sometimes,

all three. Let me just preface everything by saying this is for educational

purposes. I'm not here to treat, diagnose, prescribe, or heal any condition.

You see your local practitioner.

SHARON: What we're here today is just to give us this flavor like, oh,

maybe Ayurveda can help; this is something I didn't know about.

When you have an autoimmune and your body is confused, sometimes, you

end up with some of the symptoms of everything.


SWAMI: That's right. And then, Ayurveda suggests that you just go with

the one that's most prevalent. So if the swollen ankles are the worst, then

work on them. If the fog is there, then you work on that first or two of the

three.

The beauty of Ayurveda is that, normally, there's one thing that's out of

whack. But if there are two imbalances, then you use the third element. So

if you have too much water and too much fire, then the air will bring

balance.

You have that extra cushion of things to do. The Chinese system is either yin

or yang so if one is out of balance, you can use the other. But if they're both

out of balance ─ I'm not an expert on that, but it's harder. You only have

two things to work with.

SHARON: Sometimes, the three-legged stool is a little bit better. That

makes sense. So when we're looking at this as far as the change of seasons

and adding some of these things that you said to our foods ─ I want to go

back to this idea.

I was always told to eat with the seasons. But I find that's kind of hard in

today’s world because my grocery store just usually carries the same old

thing month after month. It doesn't seem to rotate with what I would call

the “seasonal foods.”

SWAMI: If you're living in the country, then there are all sorts of local

organic farmers. But if you're in the heart of the city, they do have these

famers come in to the farmers’ market.

SHARON: I love farmers’ markets.

SWAMI: They're fun. And, usually, you can get organic which is the

healthiest and you get what they're growing. They can only bring you what

they're growing. They can't bring you what they're not growing. That's sort

of helps that out.


And then, I would wonder about that because there are some super foods

that if they're really that good for you, is it okay to have them in the winter

time?

I love pineapple. Whenever there's pineapple in the store, even in the winter

I'll get it. It just makes me feel good.

SHARON: I think that's a critical key that you just said that I want to

underline: “It just makes me feel good.”

I can tell when I eat foods that don't make me feel good. And so, when you

said, “It just makes me feel good,” there are foods that just make me feel

good.

To me, that's a key sign that you're probably fine eating that food even if it's

out of season.

SWAMI: Absolutely! And if a fire person comes along and you say, “Well,

avoid onions,” and they say, “My father is an onion farmer; my mother is an

onion farmer. We've eaten onions since I was born,” then keep eating it

because you're used to it and you're acclimated to it. It's a part of your life.

It's a lot of common sense. Ayurveda says that it's best to listen to your

intuition and listen to your body because everything, in theory, sounds

great.

Does it work for you?

That's really the key.

Ultimately, Ayurveda is this spiritual discipline to help us discover our

intuition and discover our enlightened selves, not just the physical healing

condition.

SHARON: And I think it's critically important to listen to your intuition

because even in Western medicine, they're giving you stats like “Most people

will…” or “The study shows…” But there's always an outlier.

This is the science of Sharon. I'm just going to put that out there.


I've always had this feeling that people who have an autoimmune condition

tend to be a little bit more of the outlier where the common knowledge

maybe has to be tweaked to work for whatever is going on in their body

because, to me, autoimmune is being out of balance.

SWAMI: You raise an interesting point and I'd like to ask you a question, if

I may, because you're a master of autoimmune. In terms of thinking of a

cause of autoimmune, would it be a truism or maybe we haven't done the

research yet but have you found that more people or enough people who

have autoimmune have the habit of listening to the mainstream instead of

listening to their bodies and that's maybe why they got sick?

It's a thought that popped into my head.

SHARON: I'm not even sure if that's true just for autoimmune. I think it is

for a lot of us. Until we have that reckoning moment ─ I think, for me,

coming down with the autoimmune, I've always leaned towards eating

organic and doing things with the more natural organic lifestyle way.

But when I think about your question, to me, what is important to think

about is that idea of whether it was a toxin in your world or toxins or

whether it was stress or trauma or all of the above ─ too frantic a lifestyle.

I think all these things play into it because I can talk to a number of people

and they'll say, “Wow, when I changed my stress and started meditating

every day, I got well” or “Wow, I cleaned all the toxins out of my home and I

eat only organic food and I got well.”

To me, it's such a cumulative effect. As you know, you taught me a long

time ago that it's like this big bucket. When we get ill, the bucket is full and

overflowing and what we have to do is re-stabilize and rebalance that

bucket.

As long as we keep an open mind ─ I found many things through my search

for wellness. I had to use my own intuition on myself like, okay, is that right

for me?


And maybe my friends will say, “Sharon try this. It really worked.” But,

somehow, something inside says, hmm, no.

SWAMI: And I think that's the most important takeaway if anybody forgets

everything else we've talked about today. Don't you feel that's the most

important message probably of every conversation?

Listen to yourself. Listen to your intuition.

SHARON: Trust it, too. The times I've been talked out of it, I've later

regretted it whether I regretted it because it didn't end up the way I wanted

it to or I regretted it because I just allowed myself to be talked out of

trusting myself when deep inside I knew. I think that's an important thing to

know.

This is just a little bit gender related ─ the science of Sharon again, guys.

Women allow themselves to be talked out of things much easier. And I'm

always saying, “Please trust yourself. Go ahead.”

If you're on video, you saw Swami’s face. His eyes rolled there. So challenge

me.

SWAMI: Think about men who adopt the macho way: “You've got to be a

macho guy. You've got to be the provider.”

There are so many rules for the male that they don't have the opportunity or

they don't have the courage or they don't have the wherewithal, oftentimes,

to say, “Well, what do I believe about that? Am I going to stand up to all my

friends who say, ‘Be this way,’ when I feel this way?”

I think it may be a different motivation to listen to the gender but I think the

men have an equal amount of difficulty following their intuition.

SHARON: That's why I love this guy. These are the kinds of friends you

want, the ones that you really have spirited conversations with. I love this.

We need to take a quick commercial break. These are the kinds of friends

you want in your world, guys. We'll be right back.


Welcome back, everyone, to The Autoimmune Hour. I'm Sharon Sayler from

sharonsayler.com and we're having just a fun and spirited discussion with

Swami Tirtha today. He's also known as the “Orange Cowboy.”

He is the number one bestselling author of The Ayurveda Encyclopedia and

the Ayurveda Primer. His latest book is 21 Days of Joy.

What I love about Swami is that he's just a wealth of knowledge. And,

today, we're going to talk about seasons and seasonal change.

But I'm having so much fun just running down rabbit holes finding Swami’s

wisdom and sharing everything that we're coming up with.

We're just going to keep on running down rabbit holes for you because when

you're willing to explore, that's where you come up with breakthroughs.

Swami, thank you so much and thank you for bringing that perspective of

the macho into it. To be able to see the opposite viewpoint is critically

important.

SWAMI: There are certain truisms and one of them is to trust your

intuition. The other is the idea of universality, of oneness.

As long as we keep thinking of anything in terms of dualities, we're doing

ourselves and our hearts a disservice. There are, obviously, differences

between male and female but we all have the same types of challenges. We

all have to listen to our intuitions and we all have to buck the various

systems ─ male, female, age, all these things. And they all need to be stood

up to in our hearts.

Here's the thing. To go back to what you were saying earlier, there are so

many people who get the prognosis from their doctors, “This is incurable.

You'll have a week to live” or whatever, and the people say, “No way! I

refuse to accept and I'm going to ─” whatever. And they do.

SHARON: We just had Karen Hoyt on who, one day, all of a sudden,

suffered liver failure and they said she won't see Christmas. And here she is


eight years later. And I loved it because she was like, “Hey, thanks but not

me.”

I love it.

SWAMI: One of the things I'm challenging is the concept of aging. I refuse

to accept it. Why can't we live to 200, 300, or 400?

It's so prevalent in our society to say, “Oh, it's my aging. It's my memory.”

Everything is geared to that. But there are people who live in their nineties

and a hundred and they've got all their faculties; and they're huge

inspirations to me and to other people.

And so, whatever we're talking about whether it's an illness or age or gender

barrier or whatever the barrier is, you don't have to be angry. You don't

have to fight about it. But you don't have to accept it. Say, “Not me. Where

is the solution for me?”

SHARON: Awesome! I love that because accepting ownership of things

that aren’t true for us can keep us weighted down. I remember when I got

the diagnosis ─ the doctor is almost anointing you with this diagnosis and

he's telling you all of the terrible statistics. He calls them “outcomes.”

I'm like, “No, those are statistics. That's not an outcome.”

We had this spirited discussion because he thought I wasn’t “being real,

being realistic.”

I said, “No, how we think and how we talk about ourselves can come true if

we are really careful about what happens. Yes, I understand. I hear you

saying I have this imbalance in my system that you're calling an

‘autoimmune condition’ and I refuse ownership of it ─ meaning, I'm not

going to keep it. I'm going to get rid of it. It's going out with the local

garbage.”

SWAMI: Just in terms of the aging example, they say that you get stiff as

you get older.


Yes, if you sit in a chair for eight hours a day at work and come home and

sit on the couch for another six hours, you're going to get stiff.

That's not aging. Those are poor lifestyle choices.

SHARON: Yes. Don't they say that sitting is the new smoking or something

like that?

And that's so true. We had this wonderful discussion a couple of weeks ago

on hydration. They were talking about fascia and how that is really so

overlooked in this so-called modern age.

They're discovering that fascia is the hydration lubrication pump of the entire

system. She was describing how it doesn't have to be heavy duty exercise to

get the fascia to do its primary function to move the hydration throughout

your system. It can just be movement.

SWAMI: I'm so excited. I'll share this with you. I do some yoga and I do

some walking. I do some energy exercises and I do my energy exercises on

my walks. In one of my walks, I get this voice talking to me and saying, “So

here's energy like Qigong or karate. It's energy. You get the energy to flow.

But what's on the other side of energy?

It's light. That's what physics tells us. A particle of energy, the finest particle

of energy is also a wavelength of light.

So I said, “Okay, energy is a really good important thing to focus on but

we're not really yet focusing on the light and they're starting to show me all

these exercises and awareness of our light. And that's where Reiki and

lightworking come in ─ to light us up, to recognize that lightness in us.

SHARON: Tell me more. You've intrigued me. So how do we do that? How

do you do that in your walks?

SWAMI: Think of air. Our body needs air and if we're nervous and we don't

breathe. Everything shuts down. Our stress levels increase. But if we

breathe ─ haah ─ everything releases and the air flows again.


Imagine the light. I'll give you an example. The first yoga light exercise they

taught me is you have one hand straight up and then you start to do a back

twist. And right about in this position with my other hand, it feels like the

light is coming down into me.

SHARON: So I'm putting one hand up and then I'm doing like a two-thirds

twist to ─ does it matter

SWAMI: You'll do it both ways one after the other.

SHARON: You feel different this way, don't you?

SWAMI: Play around. I use the front hand up and the right hand down.

SHARON: Okay, so I'm switching my hands because I had my back hand

down, and even that felt different, too.

SWAMI: That might be for you, too. You're just letting your body guide

you. Suddenly, the light starts to pour in.

SHARON: Let's walk our audio listeners through it. So you take the forward

hand and put it up.

SWAMI: Start with your left hand and put it out in front of you and take

your right hand and put it just slightly above the horizontal of your shoulder

─ your ear. That's it.

And now, twist to your right and just feel the twist. No pushing, no forcing.

And as it starts to feel good, just see if you don't feel some light coming in

from heaven or something. And, usually, I stand up

What are you feeling? What are you experiencing?

SHARON: I'm getting warm and I feel a lot of energy. I can't say that I saw

light.

SWAMI: That's okay.

SHARON: But I felt a lot of energy and I have to just jump back a little bit

here. It's so interesting to me, Swami, because Dr. Cohen and Gina Bria’s ─

the hydration experts that we had on ─ suggestion for getting the


lubrication, the fascia to release the hydration was twisting. Isn't that

fascinating?

They didn't show us this movement but I can see how we can incorporate

that into not only bringing in the light but allowing our fascia to hydrate us.

SWAMI: Actually, part of a Qigong move for the liver is to twist to the left

and right. I integrated Qigong and yoga and then, just this year, it's like, oh,

the light is coming in.

This is really crazy stuff. But try it because as long as you feel good, you

don't have to see the light.

If I'm pouring water from a pitcher into a glass, I notice that if I pour it at a

45-degree angle, it feels like the light of heaven is coming into the glass.

SHARON: That's interesting. And I love all of this because we can play with

them whether you put your arms up and you can only twist a little bit or you

can twist a lot. This is just all about “do what feels right for you.” But I love

playing with this opportunity to see what you see, what you feel, what

you're hearing, and what sensations are happening for you.

And as I know Swami would say, “If it feels good, keep doing it.”

SWAMI: As you've said, “I don't feel the light but I feel much more

energy.” Awesome!

SHARON: I feel warmer. I got very warm so maybe that was the light but I

wasn’t seeing it.

SWAMI: And that's how we resolve your cold season out there.

SHARON: Yes. Every so often when I'm feeling chilly, I will do this ─

putting the one arm up and the other arm in the back at ear length and

twisting. It does make me warm. Isn't that fascinating?

SWAMI: And play around with the heights and the angles because you'll

find your discovery.


SHARON: True! And here we are both sitting so it's a little more awkward

to twist when you're bumping into a chair behind you.

SWAMI: You can always get a Chubby Checker record and do the twist.

“Come on, baby, let's do the twist.”

SHARON: Absolutely! That is another way to bring back joy, too.

SWAMI: Dancing is a really great thing. Just to round it out, like Reiki or

energy healing from a light worker, as we're called, lie down on your bed

and do some relaxation. Relax all the parts of your body and then imagine

energy coming in or imagine light coming in, whatever your belief system is

able to accept.

Picture energy coming in. Picture water flowing in and flowing from head to

toe and it's soothing you. And then picture the light coming in.

Or it's really ultimately coming from our hearts, from our souls if you can't

picture it that way.

SHARON: There are so many ways to picture it and so many ways to play

with it. And just play with it. There's no rule here.

SWAMI: Another thing in Ayurveda in the fall is to have moonlight bathing.

If you go out those days around the full moon, see that silvery light; that's

the kind of the light that I see in our bodies. And just call it to you. Imagine

it's gravity just bringing it down to you or picture heaven and just picture a

column.

See how this column of light is right behind me here in these wings.

SHARON: For those on audio, he has an amazing background.

SWAMI: It's a while column of light from heaven just descending and

blessing us. Picture that. And then, say, “I wonder if it could be inside of me.

Thank you for letting that light penetrate me. Thank you for letting me feel

and become one.” It comes back to the oneness again.


SHARON: We need to take one more quick commercial break. I just love

this. We're just exploring all sorts of fantastic ways of being with Swami

today. We'll be right back.

Welcome back, everyone, to The Autoimmune Hour. I'm Sharon Sayler from

sharonsayler.com and we're just having an amazing time with Swami today.

You, guys, could tell that when we get together, he and I just go everywhere

with our thought processes exploring all sorts of interesting ideas.

The concept of the show today is about seasons. And we've touched on that

a little bit but some of the things we've touched on really are season-less.

We can do them at any time to change how we're feeling.

But I want to jump back to seasons for a minute because I know that we'll

find another rabbit hole shortly. I know you have a couple of “avoid” tips for

the season. Let's get to them before we forget and run down some other

rabbit holes.

SWAMI: Right! As important as it is and how easy it is to have our bitter,

astringent, and sweet foods that feel right to us, it's important to stay away

from the hot things because if, in fact, you're feeling hotter in the season,

stay away from hot things.

So sour foods are hot ─ fatty foods, too much sun. But particularly for those

who have the habit of alcohol and cigarettes, those are heating so we do

want to reduce that if we want to feel better.

SHARON: Those are overall good suggestions regardless of the season. I

have a question about hot foods. Is something spicy like a chili pepper or

statement like that considered hot or just spicy?

SWAMI: That would be hot. Pungent, spicy, hot ─ sour and pungent are the

hotter foods.

SHARON: I don't worry able to that, anyway, because I've never been a fan

of spicy foods.


SWAMI: A lot of fire people don't like hot foods. A lot of this is quite natural

for some people.

SHARON: That's about trusting ourselves. I want to jump back into trusting

ourselves because a lot of people say, “I don't know if it was my intuition

talking or just some memory of a bad B movie I saw.”

SWAMI: That's a great question and it is a question I've asked myself a

number of different times on different parts of the journey. So when I

moved upstate, it's so quiet out here in the country. You hear nothing but

your own thoughts. And then you start to observe. There's no one you can

blame for how you're feeling because it's just you.

Then I started to realize, oh, I'm making my back tense. I have to do yoga

to release that but I can't blame that on anybody. There's something

suddenly going on.

And so, that's when I started to say, “Okay, I notice, sometimes, I hear a

voice and the voice gives me the right answers” and I say, “Okay, now, I'm

talking to God and I'm saying, ‘You really do give me the right answers but

how do I know if it's not me. So make me sincere when I ask for help

because I know I can tend to be not a wise guy but I do the opposite of

what's told.’”

SHARON: Polarity responder you are, Sir. That's why we get along.

SWAMI: It works in investing. You go against the psychological

But with God, you don't want to be the opposite of what God says. I don't

because I find it's always a better choice and I actually learned at a certain

point what I thought makes me happy when I hear God saying, “Try this

instead,” I say, “Isn't that funny? That's exactly what I wanted to do”

because I spent so much of my life being unhappy hearing God asking me to

do things.

When I actually realized they were actually better for me, I started to just

change. I changed my attitude like that.


And so, eventually, I said, “Okay, from now, I'm going to be consistent. I'm

going to assume everything I hear from You is from You. And if it's from me,

You're God, You can help me get out of that stuff.”

And so, He knows I'm going to be consistent as much as possible.

And that's how it really works for me to the point where my angels helped

me get my new car which is an orange Mazda Miata sports car convertible. I

wouldn't have gotten it because I would have all these negatives about

myself not getting a sports car. And they talked me into it.

And then, each time you believe and you trust and it works out for you, then

you have faith for the next bigger words that you hear coming to you.

SHARON: Right! I think it's critical to know ─ sorting it out, sorting out the

different voices that we hear. Are they true or not?

Having that compass that only comes through experience of letting you

know, okay, that's the voice I've heard before; those are the thoughts that

have always rung true before is helpful because when we first start out

trusting, what happens to us?

There's always a lot of second guessing at first. It's like, wow, maybe that

was my fifth-grade teacher’s voice.

SWAMI: Absolutely! Maybe it's cultural. Maybe everybody in my country or

in my religion believe that but I don't believe it; I really don’t and I have to

do something else.

SHARON: Gosh, we could just get into unconscious bias and we've already

touched on it several times today, haven't we?

I think it's important in healing, though, to understand my own unconscious

bias about healing. I was taught, “Have a cookie and you'll feel better” and I

have found out that that's not true for me but that was a very common thing

in my family that I still see some of the senior members of the family saying

to the younger members of the family.


That's an unconscious bias that I held for a long time ─ a cookie would make

me feel better. That's the idea of the comfort foods.

SWAMI: When Mommy baked those little chocolate chip cookies and you

got to lick the batter, those were happy times. So we're going to go to those

things now.

Sometimes, they're helpful. I mean, if we switch to organic and whole cane

sugars, that's not so bad ─ or gluten free for those who need that.

But, sometimes, it's not.

SHARON: I always like to say, “What did I see, hear, feel, and believe?”

because I have to question a lot of my things like “Do I know this or I just

believe it ─ somebody somewhere along implanted it and I just believed it or

do I know it?”

That, for me, is always a question I ask myself so I can get clarity for myself

including when I'm making medical decisions for my body. And that is about

taking ownership of my own healing.

I know that you're a huge advocate of that. We've talked about that at

length before ─ about taking ownership for your own healing because

nobody knows your body like you.

SWAMI: Exactly right!

SHARON: What are some things that we can do when we need to take

ownership of ─ I know you have these beautiful ways of telling people,

“Thank you but no thank you.”

Can you share with us a couple of the things that you've shared with me

before about how you talk to people and let them just be who they are?

SWAMI: It's such an interesting question because it answers the questions

we were talking about before as we start to listen to spirit or God or intuition

or whatever each of us like to call it. And I like to use to the word “God” or

“my angels” depending which one I feel is talking to me.


If I say to somebody, “Well, thanks for the tip but God is giving me another

direction,” that usually ends the harangue.

SHARON: I think calling in the big guns ─

SWAMI: You have to be careful because you could start to use that as a

crutch to say, “Oh, God is telling me to have three bowls of ice cream.” And

you have to be true to yourself.

But in terms of other people, I am a channel so I just channel things that

come through me. And they started telling me, “Oh, you really need to focus

on this and this and this” and I just started laughing and going, “Why are

they telling me what I have to do? They're a channel. I'm a channel.”

I just laughed that one off but if it kept on, I would have said, “Let me be

clear ─” and this is really an interesting point because communication is ─

for me, anyway ─ a huge challenge. What I hear and what I think I hear are

usually two different things.

So I started to say, “Well, let me make sure this is what I'm hearing. I don't

think you're saying this because it doesn't make sense but are you telling

me to stop listening to my channeling and do what you think you're

channeling?”

And then, they say, “Oh, no! That's not what I'm saying.”

Okay, that cleared it up.

SHARON: My famous words that I just absolutely tell people all the time ─

and you say it with a very kind voice; you don't say it with a stern voice ─ is

“Just so I understand, this is what I heard.”

Most often, it's like “No, no! That's not what I meant to say.”

There is this wonderful thing in one of my communications trainings early on

that I heard the phrase and I wish I could remember who to attribute the

quote to but it's very prevalent in neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) and

it's that the response you got back is the message you sent.

And so, people are always like, “Okay.”


Well, they didn't respond the way I wanted them to respond. How dare they!

Roll back the video tape. What was the message you sent? How did you say

it like your friend who was trying to tell you that maybe your channel was

off?

SWAMI: I have to always bring it back to me. I remember once with the

same person, weeks or months later, I said, “Oh, yes, the last time, you told

me A, B, C ─” she goes, “I didn't mean that. I didn't say that.”

I go, “You didn't?”

So I know I don't listen well. The statistics are that we only get ten percent

of our information from word, anyway, and I think that's a part of it. We rely

too much on that or we don't use it enough. I'm not sure what it is.

SHARON: And especially in medicine, though, that's a critical point that we

should make. We're just running out of time but Swami and I always do this

when we get together.

A critical point I want to make, though, is the idea that if we only get a small

bit of our understanding through the words and that you're sitting there at

the doctor’s office and what he or she is doing.

Words!

I always take a journal and write a lot of things down and I always go with

my journal that has questions that I've thought about in the previous weeks

or months before my visit as well because, as you say, words can fail us far

too often.

SWAMI: The other thing is that 90% of what's coming to us in the doctors’

office or everywhere is not words. So if the doctor is afraid of death and

they're talking to you about a life-threatening condition, they're

communicating fear to you so you are believing fear without even knowing it

unless you're aware.

Look at his body. Look at his eyes. He's afraid. She's afraid.


If you're talking to a surgeon, their solution is surgery. That's what they

were trained in. They say, “The best thing for you is surgery.”

“What about these other things?”

“I don't know. I've never trained in those things.”

So we have to understand that everybody is coming with their own biases.

And it behooves us if we want to have a good life to see those filters or, at

least, put up a filter and say, “Angels, protect me. Wrap me in white light

and only bring in the good stuff for me.”

SHARON: That's so true. It's so funny, Swami. It brings to mind that when

I got my diagnosis ─ I remember I've been seeing this professional for about

a year and trying to unravel what was going on, and then I had some very

significant symptoms where it became obvious what was going on.

I remember that she came in. She took one look and said, “Oh, I forgot

something.” But I knew internally that she didn't forget anything. Something

just happened. She took one look at me.

For those who don't know, dermatomyositis comes with a lot of skin rashes

so it's not pretty to look at.

And she came back with another physician whom I've never met. I didn't

know what it meant but with their body language, I thought, this is not

good.

I did hold my breath at that moment even though I “knew better” to take a

deep breath and clear yourself in those moments. Get as much life breath in

you.

I held my breath until I reminded myself, oh, keep breathing, Sharon. Keep

breathing. You'll do better if you keep breathing.

SWAMI: “Keep breathing” is a great mantra. And another mantra that I like

is “Thank you for making this the best moment possible.” If you're talking to

the doctor or a friend or a boss or an employee and it's starting to get tense


or even beforehand, you just say, “Thank you for making this conversation

the best possible outcome.”

In my experience, it always is.

SHARON: And it always is with Swami, too. We're out of time. I want to

have you tell everybody how to get your books, how to find out more about

you, what your website is, and all that good stuff because even though

Swami and have I had an agenda for our call today, we never stick to it and

we make it the best moment possible.

Thank you, love you! Tell us all about you.

SWAMI: If you're interested in Ayurveda, I have two books: the big book

The Ayurveda Encyclopedia and the then the itty-bitty book by comparison.

And these are all important and common questions people have asked me

over the last forty years including food plans and a couple of guided

meditations.

SHARON: And that's the Ayurveda Primer for those on audio. That's the

second book.

SWAMI: You can get them on Amazon. This one, The Ayurveda

Encyclopedia, was a number one bestseller for many years.

You can be certified in Ayurveda at thevedicschool.com. If you go to

orangecowboy.com, you'll learn about VIP Ayurveda because we all deserve

royal wellness ─ and royal wealth, too ─ health as well.

SHARON: We can have both.

SWAMI: The VIP Ayurveda is for royal wellness. Then, I have my 21 Days

of Joy course there. You can also look at my website,

talkingwithourangels.com. It's a TV show. This is my studio that I'm in right

now.

A lot of what we did today is what we do on that show ─ only we call it

“angels.” Other people call it “God” or “spirit.”

It's a lovely positive show on how to bring more joy into your life.


And if you go to orangecowboy.com, I have a free Tibetan bowl meditation

sound bath for you. You just put in your name and email address and then

you can download it and it just meditates you. You don't even have to do

anything.

SHARON: Swami, thank you so much for sharing your day with us. This

has been awesome. I always learn so much from you.

Everyone, have a great week whatever your adventures and join me next

time.

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