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    793F E.H. CHASSIS VALVE

    (Electro – Hydraulic Chassis Valve Diagnostic Supplement)

    TESTING & ADJUSTING PLUS

    TROUBLESHOOTING TIPS

    This document is a “Supplement” Guide!

    Always refer to the latest information available from

    Caterpillar SIS - using SSP serial # prefix, when

    troubleshooting any EH Chassis Valve Issues.

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    System Pressure Release

     Hydraulic System

    WARNINGPersonal injury can result from hydraulic oil pressure and hot oil.

    Hydraulic oil pressure can remain in the hydraulic system after the

    engine has been stopped. Serious injury can be caused if this pressure is

    not released before any service is done on the hydraulic system.

    Make sure all of the attachments have been lowered; oil is cool before

    removing any components or lines. Remove the oil filler cap only when

    the engine is stopped, and the filler cap is cool enough to touch withyour bare hand. 

    Brake

    To relieve the pressure from the brake circuit, move the engine start switch to the OFF

    position. This will activate a solenoid valve in order to release the hydraulic brake pressure

    from the brake accumulators.

    Brake Accumulators

    WARNING

    Hydraulic accumulator contains gas and oil under high pressure.

    Improper removal or repair procedures could cause severe injury. To

    remove or repair, instructions in the service manual must be followed.

    Special equipment is required for testing and charging. 

    REFER MEDIA NUMBERS: KENR8738  , KENR8579 UNDER THE APPROPRIATE

    HEADINGS FOR THE BRAKE SYSTEM ACCUMULATOR (SERVICE / PARKING). 

    Relieving the pressure in the brake circuit will not release the nitrogen precharge pressure

    in the brake accumulators.

    TOOLING GROUP REQUIRED:  CATERPILLAR ELECTRONIC TECHNICIAN (E.T),COMMUNICATION ADAPTOR GROUP & ADAPTOR CABLE ASSEMBLY.

    DIGITAL PRESSURE GROUP – PART # 198 – 4240 AND APPROPRIATE TRANSDUCERS.

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    Do you know what you are looking at

    and what to look for….?

    1. Visual inspection is vital for the correct operation of

    the “Full Hydraulic Brake System” on the 793F.

    BRAKE E.C.M. SOFTWARE FILE #__________________

    Model:_________________ Date:___________

    Serial Number:___________Service Meter

    Hours:_____________

    Visual Inspection 

    Hose Connections:ComponentDamage

    Oil Leaks: Oil Temperature: At least 55 Celsius 

    Oil Level in Brake Actuation Tank:

    Nitrogen Charge Pressure in ALL Brake Accumulators

    (1000 psi - +/- 50 psi) @ 21 Degrees Celsius   ____________ Psi

    Brake Holding Ability Test (1) 

    Engaged Brake  Engine Speed (rpm)  Engaged Brake  Engine Speed (rpm) 

    Service Brake Parking Brake

    Manual Retarder Secondary Brake

    ( 1 )The engine speed should reach a minimum of 1400 rpm before there is any machine movement. 

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    793F BRAKE CONTROL VALVE LAY-OUT

    Standard Control Valve # 285-5630

    (1) Diverter valve (front service brakes)

    (2) Diverter valve (rear service brakes)

    # 343-3181 XLP USES # 343-3182 

    (3) Solenoid valve (brake pump unloader)

    # 343-3181 XLP USES # 343-3182

    (4) Port for the service brake accumulator

    # 262-1955 

    (5) Plug (orifice for feedback dampening of diverter valve (9)

    (6) Port (parking brake pressure sensor)

    (7) Filter cartridge

    (8) Port for the parking brake accumulators

    # 2949048 

    (9) Diverter valve for the parking and secondary brake

    (10) Port for the pressure sensor for the oil supply

    # 343-3185 

    (11) Orifice for the brake charging "OR1"

    PS2-Pressure Brake Pump 

    (12) Valve (brake pump unloader)

    # 221-4511 

    (13) Plug "RAX"

    # 223-0016 

    (14) Port for return to tank “T2”

    797F ONLY  

    The front and rear relays / diverters are serviced as akit. They are matched to open at the same time. AlsoDiverter (1) for the front brakes, when the XLP is beingused, check that the

    ******VERY IMPORTANT NOTE******

    322-3795

     

    pilot assembly is underit. The pilot assembly is what makes the front brake

    pressure 80% of the rear (except when ARC is active). 

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    XLP Brake Control Valve Part

    #2839559 uses a different Diverter

    Valve for the Front & Rear Service

    Brakes.

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    (15) Port for the supply oil for the service brakes

    (16) Check valve (service brake accumulator)

    (17) Port "BCD" -

    # 163-1829 

    (18) Plug (orifice for return oil from diverter valve (2)

    NOT USED ON “793F” OR “797F”  

    (19) Plug (orifice for feedback dampening of diverter valve (2)

    (20) Port for the rear service brakes

    (21) Plug (orifice for feedback dampening of diverter valve (1)

    (22) Port for the front service brakes

    (23) Solenoid valve (front automatic retarder control)

    (24) Plug (orifice for pilot oil for diverter valve (1)

    # 279-6527 

    (25) Solenoid valve (rear automatic retarder control)

    (26) Port for the pilot oil for the hoist

    # 279-6527 

    (27) Port for the oil for the check valve for the TCS

    (28) Port for the parking and secondary brakes

    FRONT BRAKE COOLING DIVERT

    SOLENOID IS NOT USED ON THE

    793F OR 797F, BUT IS INSTALLED

    CAN BE USED FOR

    TROUBLESHOOTING A FAILED CO

    ELSEWHERE ON THE VALVE.

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    (29) Port for return oil for the service brake valve "T1"

    (30) Solenoid valve for the parking and secondary brake

    (31) Plug (orifice for pilot oil for diverter valve (9)

    (32) Control valve (traction control signal)

    # 279-6527 

    (33) Shuttle valve (rear service brake)

    # 171-5704 

    (34) Shuttle valve (front service brake)

    # 294-9050 

    (35) Port for the return to tank

    # 294-9050 

    (36) Main relief valve

    (37) Port for the supply oil

    # 320-8118 

    (38) Solenoid valve for purging the brake accumulator’s

    (39) Plug (orifice for purging the parking brake accumulators)

    # 294-9049 

    NOT USED ON 793F or 797F, th

    is the same as the “BRAKE

    ACCUMULATOR PURGE” Soleno

    valve Item # 38

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    (40) Port for the pressure sensor for the parking brake accumulator

    (41) Pressure reducing valve (pilot oil)

    PS 1 

    (42) Check valve (parking brake accumulator)

    # 294-9047 

    # 163-1829 

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    (43) Port for the pilot oil from the service brake pedal

    (44) Port for the pressure switch for the front brakes(45) Port for the pressure sensor for the service brake accumulator 

    (46) Port for return oil

    PS 3

    (47) Plug (orifice for the return oil from diverter valve (2)(48) Plug

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    (49) Plug (orifice for purging the service brake accumulator)

    # 4 STORB PRESSURE TAP CAN BEPLACED HERE TO READ “SECONDARY

    / PARKING BRAKE” ACCUMULATOR

    PRESSURE

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    (1) Diverter valve (front service brakes)

    (2) Diverter valve (rear service brakes)

    (3) Solenoid valve (brake pump unloader)(4) Port for the service brake accumulator

    (5) Plug (orifice for feedback dampening of diverter valve (9)

    (6) Port (parking brake pressure sensor)

    (7) Filter cartridge

    (8) Port for the parking brake accumulators

    (9) Diverter valve for the parking and secondary brake

    (10) Port for the pressure sensor for the supply oil

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    (11) Orifice for the brake charging "OR1"

    (12) Valve (brake pump unloader)

    (14) Port for return to tank "T2"

    (15) Port for the supply oil for the service brake

    (16) Check valve (service brake accumulator)

    (17) Port "BCD" NOT USED ON THE 793F & 797F 

    (19) Plug (orifice for feedback dampening of diverter valve (2)

    (20) Port for the rear service brakes

    (21) Plug (orifice for feedback dampening of diverter valve (1)

    (22) Port for the front service brakes

    (23) Solenoid valve (front automatic retarder control)

    (24) Plug (orifice for pilot oil for diverter valve (1)

    (25) Solenoid valve (rear automatic retarder control)

    (26) Port for the oil for the hoist valve

    (27) Port for the oil for the check valve for the TCS

    (28) Port for the parking and secondary brakes

    (29) Port for return oil for the service brake valve "T1"

    (30) Solenoid valve for the parking and secondary brake

    (31) Plug (orifice for pilot oil for diverter valve (9)

    (32) Control valve (traction control signal)

    (33) Shuttle valve (rear service brake)

    (34) Shuttle valve (front service brake)

    (35) Port for the return to tank

    (36) Main relief valve

    (37) Port for the supply oil

    (38) Solenoid valve for purging the brake accumulators

    (39) Plug (orifice for purging the parking brake accumulators)

    (40) Port for the pressure sensor for the parking brake accumulator(41) Pressure reducing valve (pilot oil)

    (42) Check valve (parking brake accumulator)

    (43) Port for the pilot oil from the service brake pedal

    (44) Port for the pressure switch for the front brakes

    (45) Port for the pressure sensor for the service brake accumulator

    (49) Plug (orifice for purging the service brake accumulator)

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    LIVE TESTING SPECIFACATIONS

    Test Specifications  Actual

    Value 

    Accumulator “Cycle Time” After System is Fully Charged,

    minimum of 10 cycles30 Seconds

    Accumulator Nitrogen Charge Pressure for the Service

    Brake & Park Brake

    1000 ± 50 psi

    at

    21° C (70° F) 

    Cut-In Pressure for the Service Brake 2100 ± 70 psi

    Cutout Pressure for the Service Brake 3000 ± 70 psi

    Service Brake Pressure at the Slack Adjusters for the StandardWheel Groups (Front & Rear)  675 ± 60 psi

    Service Brake Pressure at the Slack Adjusters for the

    Extended Life Wheel Groups

    FRONT

    525 ± 87 psi

    REAR

    670 - / + 58 psi

    Retarder Brake Pressure at the Slack Adjusters for the

    Standard Wheel Groups (Front & Rear) 675 ± 116 psi

    Retarder Brake Pressure at the Slack Adjusters for the

    Extended Life Wheel Groups

    FRONT525 ± 116 psi

    REAR

    670 -/+ 116psi

    Park Brake Release Pressure for the Secondary Brake System680 ± 70 psi

    Towing Valve Pressure (within 120 seconds of turning motoron)

    550 to 650 psi

    Main Relief Valve Pressure 3250 ± 50 psi

    Pressure for the Pressure Reducing Valve (Pilot Oil)600 -50 + 0 psi

    Pilot Pressure for the Service Brake Pedal 718 ± 22 psi

    NOTE: When the pump is at Low Idle condition, the cycle time is denoted as the time between Cut-

    out and Cut-in pressure. Quicker than 30 seconds on a fully charged system = LEAKAGE

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    WHAT IS THE DIFFERERENCE BETWEEN “STANDARD & “XLP”

    If the truck is equipped with the Extended Life Power

    Train (XLP option), the front brakes are equipped with

    three additional brake disc packs and the brake / chassis

    Valve includes an additional piston and sleeve. Since the

    surface area of the piston is smaller than the surface area

    of the service brake relay valve, the relay valve directs a

    reduced oil pressure to the brake piston. The reduced

    pressure is necessary due to the additional brake disc

    packs in the XLP option.

    The service brakes on the truck with the additional

    retarding will have three more discs and plates. The

    standard retarding front brakes are equipped with 10

    discs in the front and 15 discs in the rear. Additional

    retarding will have 13 discs in the front with the standard

    15 in the rear. To develop the proper proportion during

    additional retarding, the brake chassis valve will beequipped with an additional sleeve and piston.

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    THIS IS ONLY USED ON BRAKE CHASSIS CONTROL VALVE PART # 283-9559

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    E.H. CONTROL VALVE PRESSURE CHECKS AND

    AJUSTMENTS.

    # 3: Brake Filter

    #4: Pressure Tap for Main System Pressure & Stand-By

    Pressure.

    SPECS: Maximum System Pressure = 3250 psi - / + 50 psi

    Stand-By System Pressure = 150 psi +/- 150 psi 

    •  To see what the main system pressure is set to, go to

    the Brake ECM & override the parameter to OFF for

    the “Brake Pump Un-loader Solenoid” & observe

    what reading you have on your gauge.

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    •  Do not run test for any longer than 15 seconds.(Or

    you can just un-hook the two pin connector on the

    Solenoid)

    •  To see what your stand –by pressure is set at, let the

    system run at low Idle and cycle a few times. Then

    read what is on your gauge after system cut –out

    takes place.

    •  The only adjustment that can be made is for Main

    System Pressure, corrections are made on the main

    system relief valve. Item #2 

    PLEASE NOTE:

    Also when checking accum ulator charging, use a gauge to

    check the sensors in ET. The sensors could be causing the

    cut in / cut o ut to be off .

    A low main relief valve cou ld also cause a stal led charge

    where you wou ldn' t cut out.

    “ If th is is happening, then p erform the fol lowing tests”  

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    1. Brake Control Valve

    2. Main System Relief

    3. Brake Filter

    4. Pressure Tap

    5. Brake pump Un-loader Solenoid

    6. Lock-nut

    7. Adjustment Screw

    CUT-IN & CUT-OUT PRESSURE

    •  This pressure is measured at two different places,

    first one being on a pressure tap (A) located on the

    “Service Brake Accumulator” port and the second

    being on the “Parking Brake Accumulator” port

    pressure tap (B)

    NOTE: E.T. Not required for this test

    (1) 

    Install manual gauge.

    (2) 

    Disconnect 2 pin connector.

    (3) 

    Read manual gauge.

    (4) 

    Re-connect 2 pin connector.

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    PRESSURE TAP “A” SERVICE BRAKE

    ACCUMULATOR PRESSURE

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    •  This pressure is not adjustable and is controlled by

    the Pump Un-loader Solenoid & Diverter Valve.

    •  The pressure setting (after a few system cycles) for

    the cut-out is (3000 ± 70 psi). The cut-in pressure is

    70 percent of the cutout pressure. The cut-in

    pressure will be (2100 ± 70 psi).

    REMOVE THIS PLUG AND INSTALL

    STORB # 4 ADAPTOR & PRESSURE

    TAP TO READ “PARKING BRAKE

    ACCUMULATOR PRESSURE”

    PRESSURE TAP “B”

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    6V-3965 Test Fitting & #4 STOB

    MALE to #6 STOB FEMALE Adaptor.

    Notice the recess area, to allow

    installation into the recessed port in

    the “Brake Valve”

    Modified “PARKER” Test Fitting #4

    STOB, notice the recess machined at

    one end.

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    Leakage

    When the pump is at the low idle setting, the pressure

    will cycle between the cut-in pressure and the cut-out

    pressure. The cycle should occur in Approximately 30seconds @ an operating temperature of Approximately

    55 degrees Celsius or better. If this cycle occurs in less

    than 30 seconds, there is leakage in the system that must

    be corrected. (HOIST LEVER IN HOLD) 

    1. Start the engine. Allow the brake accumulators to

    charge fully. Minimum of 10 cyclesNote: Once the brake accumulators are fully charged, the

    cycle between the cut-in and cutout pressure will

    increase to 30 seconds.

    2. To locate the cause of the excessive leakage, shut

    down the engine with the engine shutdown control. Do 

    not shut down the engine with the ignition key. Theengine shutdown switch is located on the right side of

    the machine near the right hand ladder.

    3. The pressure in the brake accumulators will decrease

    because of leakage in the system and lubrication. If there

    is a significant leak, one system will decay more rapidly.

    4. Observe the pressure at the accumulators.

    Note: Before any components are removed, make sure

    that the brake accumulators have been fully discharged.

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    If the pressure for the service brake accumulator drops

    rapidly, check the following items:Check valve for the service brake

    Diverter valve for the service brakes

    Solenoid valve for the ARC

    Pressure relief valve

    Solenoid valve for purging the brake accumulators

    Solenoid valve for the brake cooling diverter "BCD"Control valve for the TCS

    Hoist control valve

    If the pressure for the parking brake accumulator drops

    rapidly, check the following:

    Diverter valve for the parking brakeSolenoid valve for the parking brake

    Solenoid valve for purging the brake accumulators

    Control valve for the TCS

    Check valve for the parking brake

    PLEASE NOTE: Als o on a 793F the primary (Service) should

    always bleed off b efore the secondary (Parking ). So thatdoesn 't tel l you th ere is an excessive leak on th e primary

    side. If secondary does fal l as fast as or faster than the

    pr imary side that would be a clue you have a leak on the

    secon dary accum ulators. 797F's have 4 accum ulators and

    may have more balanced leak dow n rates. 

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    (3) Diverter valve (un-loader)(4) Solenoid valve (un-loader)

    (5) Plug (orifice for pilot oil diverter valve for un-loader)

    If the pressure does not reach the standby pressure for

    the brake system, perform the cut-in and the cutout test.

    If the pressure at Cut-out (3000 psi) for the brake system

    is incorrect, inspect diverter valve (3), solenoid valve (4),

    and the orifice of plug (5).

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     P.R.V. (PILOT OIL) PRESSURE

    •  Pilot oil is used for the Hoist Control / Brake

    Cooling Valve.

    Place gauge @ this pressure tap to

    ecord Pilot Oil Pressure. 600 psi

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    •  Make sure hoist control lever (A) is in the

    “HOLD” position.

    •  If pilot system pressure requires correction,

    make adjustment at Item #2- Pilot Relief Valve.

    • 

    Turn adjustment screw clockwise to increasepressure, anti-clockwise to decrease pressure.

    Park Brake release pressure: Is controlled by a

    Proportional Solenoid Valve & Diverter Valve,

    which uses main system pressure. Park brakerelease pressure is checked at pressure tap #2

    and the pressure on the gauge must be at 680 ±

    70 psi.

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    Service Brake Pilot & Application Pressure Check

    (1)Pressure tap, Next Page

    (2)On this page = Pressure Tap 

    (2) Control Valve and Mounting, Next Page

    (3) Brake accumulator for the service brakes, Next Page

    (4) Brake accumulator for the parking brakes, Next Page 

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    Install at pressure tap item #1, with machine running and

    brake system fully charged. Make a few service brake

    applications then with the service brake fully depressed,

    record your value on the gauge – should be:

    718 ± 22 psi

    This pressure is also controlled by a Proportional

    Solenoid Valve & Diverter Valve, which uses main system

    pressure.

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    Slack Adjusters (1) 

    Slack Adjuster  Pressure At The Slack Adjuster (2)  Pressure At The Wheel (3) 

    Front Slack Adjuster

    Left Front Wheel

    Front Slack Adjuster

    Right Front Wheel

    Rear Slack Adjuster

    Left Rear Wheel

    Rear Slack AdjusterRight Rear Wheel

    ( 1 )The pressures should be approximately the same value. 

    ( 2 )Use the pressure tap on the slack adjuster. 

    ( 3 )Measure this pressure at the port that is labeled. "S" 

    NOTE: Your readings will depend on what Braking System

    you are working with “STANDARD” / “XLP”

    RESIDUAL SLACK ADJUSTER PRESSURE

    Residual oil pressure at the Front & Rear wheels should

    be approximately 3.6 to 8.0 psi. Max 

    NOTE: Low residual pressure indicates a failed slack

    adjuster. High residual pressure may indicate a failed

    slack adjuster or wrapped brake discs.