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777/787 Joint flying Review

WATS April 2016

B777/787 Joint Flying Review


Questions we asked

• Is 777/787 joint flying possible?

• What are the issues?

• How is it different from A320/330, A330/340 and B757/767 joint flying?


Source documents

• The Regulation – 1178/2011 (Licensing)

• AMC1 ORO.FC.240 (Ops)

• EASA OEB (Training)


The Regulation – 1178/2011

• FCL.710 Class and type ratings — variants

• Differences training

• Must fly variant within two years of differences training

• Training record must be kept


AMC1 ORO.FC.240 - Operation on more than one type or variant

• (i) the minimum flight crew complement specified in the operations manual is the same for each type or variant to be operated

• (iii) only aeroplanes within one licence endorsement are flown in any one flight duty period, unless the operator has established procedures to ensure adequate time for preparation.


OEB recommendations - Checks

• A proficiency check conducted on any B777-200 and -300 series, B777F and B787-8 series is valid for any

other variant, provided that the differences have been covered during the recurrent training, as per the

approved ODR tables.

• Consequently proficiency checks can be conducted on any approved B777-200 and -300 series, B777F or

B787-8 series FFS. However, operators should use simulators suited to their particular fleet and types of

operation.

• When operating more than one B777/787 variant, recurrent checks should be alternated between the

variants flown to the extent possible.

• 7.2 Line Checks

• As all B777-200 and -300 series, B777F and B787-8 series share the same single licence endorsement, a

line check on any variant is valid for all variants.


OEB recommendations - currency

HUD Currency

When operating the B787-8 as PF using a HUD, the pilot must have either:

• operated the B787-8 using the HUD as PF or PM; or

• completed a B787-8 HUD refresher training; or

• performed a proficiency check which included HUD operation within the previous 6 months.

• No special currency requirements are proposed when operating as PM.


Airbus family

• A330/350 joint rating

• New type rating for each type

• MFF – Mixed Fleet Flying concept - CCQ - Cross Crew Qualification

• Level C – typically 45/90 day currency

• TRIs require 15 sectors or 50 hours on the new type

• Alternate simulators every six months

• LVOs every six months


B757 - 767

• Same type

• Differences course

• Similar technologies and systems but control ‘feel’ different• Alternating six month simulator details


B777 - 787

• Same type

• Differences course

• Different technologies and systems but control ‘feel’ identical• No currency requirement mandated, but alternating six month simulator details

recommended by OEB


Size matters


777 Flight Deck


B787 Flight Deck



787 specific systems & procedures

• HUD

• FMS interface using EFB

• FMS functionality upgrades

• Limited Bleed Air systems

• Wing optimisation

• Electric Cabin pressurisation

• Thrust Asymmetry Protection

• These are all covered as ‘Training Areas of Special Emphasis’ (TASE) during differences/conversion training

• eLog*

• Charts*


787 specific systems & procedures

Training Areas of Special Emphasis’ (TASE) during differences/conversion training, vs survey findings during line operations

• HUD…………………………………………………………… No issue

• FMS interface using EFB………………………………………Identified• FMS functionality upgrades……………………………… No issue• Limited Bleed Air systems…………………………………….No issue• Wing optimisation……………………………………………….. No issue• Electric Cabin pressurisation…………………………….........No issue• Thrust Asymmetry Protection……………………………… Not seen


The challenge

• Greater density of information on 787

• CRM factors - EFB

• Harmonisation of techniques and procedures

• Training needs

• ATQP assessment

• Recurrent checking

• Currency


Response

• Focus on Human Factors/NOTECHS in training

• Handling qualities are ‘identical’ – think outside the box with training

• Develop processes to ensure ATQP harmonisation and fleet commonality (combined derates, special airfield training etc.)

• Follow OEB recommendations


We ran a survey, risk assessment and review

• More than 50 sectors flown

• No ASRs raised on surveyed sectors

• No FDR events on surveyed sectors

• Some clear themes


Themes

Technical

Procedures

• Minor procedure differences between types:

• Critical data procedure

• Wx radar operation

• MCP alt selection

Switch selections

• Muscle memory/wandering hands (radio tuning, display select panel, cabin chimes)

Memory items

• Stop calls reasons for RTO

Effect on Flight Safety

• Non identified


Themes

Non-Technical

Any differences?

• Lower SA on 777 (preparation and fewer aids – HUD/EFB/VSD etc.)

• More attention paid to briefing on both variants

• Capacity bucket fuller in pre-departure process (787), returns to normal on

taxi.

• Pre-flight procedures on either variant much easier after first attempt



I asked F/O for feedback and he said it was like flying with a normal line Captain and he noticed no difference - it that a compliment to me or a put down to the line community?


Risk Assessment

• Risks identified from survey, FDR, eBASIS, ATQP and the OEB report

• ATQP - any item requiring retraining on one fleet is retrained on BOTH 777 & 787

• FDQM– top three events reviewed on both fleets:

• All risks considered acceptable, some require review


Our goal

Extend joint fleet flying to all 777/787 TAHs – in progress

Fly AND train both variants – in progress

Extend joint fleet project to all 777/787 pilots??

Documents

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