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Exhibit 201

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Fast and Furious: The Anatomy of a Failed Operation Appendix I: Exhibits


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Exhibit 211

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1

RPTS MERCHANT

DCMN HOFSTAD

COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND

GOVERNMENT REFORM,

U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

WASHINGTON, D.C.

INTERVIEW OF: STEPHEN MARTIN

Wednesday, July 6, 2011

Washington, D.C.

The interview in the above matter was held in Room 2247, Rayburn

House Office Building, commencing at 10:00 a.m.

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Appearances:

For the HOUSE COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM:

STEVE CASTOR, CHIEF COUNSEL, INVESTIGATIONS

ASHOK M. PINTO, DEPUTY CHIEF COUNSEL, INVESTIGATIONS

CARLTON DAVIS, COUNSEL

HENRY J. KERNER, COUNSEL

SCOTT LINDSAY, MINORITY COUNSEL

JUSTIN KIM, MINORITY PROFESSIONAL STAFF

For the SENATE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY:

JASON A. FOSTER, CHIEF INVESTIGATIVE COUNSEL

BRIAN M. DOWNEY, INVESTIGATOR

MATT VIRKSTIS, MINORITY SENIOR COUNSEL

For the U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE:

MOLLY GASTON, ATTORNEY ADVISOR, OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS

For MR. MARTIN:

GREG SERRES, DEPUTY CHIEF COUNSEL, ATF

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Q So you said you were writing down the number of guns that

Mr. Patino bought, Mr. Steward had bought, and Mr. Moore had bought.

Do you remember at this point how many guns had been purchased total?

A 685-ish.

Q 685.

A Something like that.

Q Okay. This seems like a fairly high number, is that fair

to say?

A That's quite a few. That's fair.

Q Okay. So Mr. Leadmon and everybody left the room?

A Yes.

Q What happened next? What was the discussion that ensued?

A From my notes, I asked Mr. Chait and Mr. McMahon, I said,

what's your plan? I said, what's your plan? And I said, hearing

none -- and I don't know if they had one -- I said, well, you know,

there are some things that we can do. Ray Rowley, who was the southwest

border czar at the time, asked, how long are you going to let this go

on?

BY MR. CASTOR:

Q This is in January 2010?

A January 5th, that meeting, that's correct. Ray has since

retired.

So I said, well, here are some things that, you know, we might

think of doing. And we had talked about this before, we'd brainstormed

stuff, too, with Lorren. Lorren even talked about it. Kevin talked

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about it. Kevin O'Keefe had done a lot of trafficking investigations

in south Florida -- about identifying some weak straw purchasers, let's

see who the weak links are, maybe the super young ones, the super old

ones. Pole cameras, you know, put them up to see who is coming and

going, to help you with surveillance. The aerial surveillance, the

mobile surveillance, trackers. I said, you know, one of the first

things I would do is think about putting trackers, to help me keep track

of where they're going.

And I said, as far as going into Mexico, I said, have we thought

about putting trackers on them and let them -- follow them into Mexico?

Dan Kumor said, the Ambassador would never go for that. I said, okay,

fine. I said, I'm not going to pursue that anymore, assuming that.

Had we thought about putting trackers on them and following them

down to see where they're going across, to see where they go, who they're

in contact with, and where they cross the border, we might find out

something new and then, you know, interdict. And I got no response.

And I wasn't asking for one. I was just, you know, throwing this stuff

out.

Q You said this to who again, Mr. Chait?

A Mr. Chait, Mr. McMahon, Mr. Kumor. My boss was there, Jim

McDermond, who agreed with me because we talked probably daily.

Q Did any of those folks step up at that time and say, "Oh,

no, no, no. We've got another great plan in place"?

A No. No.

Mr. Davis. They were silent?

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Mr. Martin. Yes. And I don't know if they had one. I mean, they

could have. I don't know.

BY MR. CASTOR:

Q Do you remember if they were nodding their head, giving you

any nonverbal cues that, you know, this sounds like a bright idea that

you're suggesting?

A Not that I recall, no.

Q Or was it just like a blank look on their face?

A Just listening.

Mr. Kerner. Did you mention Hoover? Was he there, as well?

Mr. Martin. He was not.

So that continued. The tracker was a big thing because, you know,

we had talked about trackers before, maybe a month prior, when I found

out -- because, to me, that would be a common thing to do, try to put

some trackers on stuff, especially if you have .50-cals going.

And I was trying to work with Kevin O'Keefe, and Kevin O'Keefe

was trying to work with the ASACs through a side channel to try to get

them to contact the people that we could get the trackers from to put

on.

Somewhere during the meeting, Mr. Chait said that he had to go

to another meeting, and he left. Mr. McMahon said that he had to go

check some emails in a classified system, and he left. And then it

was just the rest of us talking.

BY MR. DAVIS:

Q Do you feel that the other meeting, checking the emails on

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me, you have five or six cartels. That's too many to go through. And

the major one's Sinaloa. And that seems to be the one that we're

getting a lot of traffic with, with Phoenix. So let's look at the

strategy, how we would do investigations, attack the southwest border

with the Sinaloa cartel.

So I tasked Ray Rowley, who is in the field ops chain, and Kevin

to sit down and come up with some kind of strategy -- and Lorren

also -- to how we could get with DEA, identify the structures of the

DTO, Sinaloa cartel, who is the head and who the flow chart is so we

could see who's who instead of when a gun pops up or a straw purchaser

tells us about something, we don't know anything.

ATF doesn't. DEA may, because they have the information but we

don't. So that was one task. The other task was, how can we -- rather

than just prosecute one straw purchaser over time, how can we take

information, how can we stretch it to use firearms to get into the DTOs

to find connections in Mexico? So that was the whole purpose.

Q Okay.

A And that was me as an OSII trying to do that for a field ops.

It wasn't our strategy. It was something that I could look and say,

let's see if we can do this and see if it will fly. Now it took

from -- that started, I think, in November, October, November, December

of '09 -- I don't remember exactly -- and didn't get published until

I think September of '10.

Q What do you mean, published?

A It didn't get put out. It wasn't a final product. So I do

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know, and Ray Rowley would know a lot because he was a southwest border

coordinator in the field ops and was very involved in it. And I know

that he -- again, very outspoken on firearms down in Mexico. And up

until the time he left and he retired, nothing happened with it. I

think they were just sitting for a while. So -- and then finally in

September, it was finalized. It was published and then emailed to the

SACs and everybody else.

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