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COIMMONWEALTZI of WRGINU Ofice of the Governor

Mark R. Warner Gavemar

August 22,2005

The Honorable Anthony J. Principi Chairman Base Realignment and Closure Commission 2521 South Clark Street Arlington, Virginia 22202

Dear Chairman Principi:

Thank you for the opportunity to be with you and the Defense Base Realignment and Closure Commission on Saturday. The Commonwealth of Virginia remains firm in its commitment to NAS Oceana and to meeting the needs of the United States Navy. The paramount and compelling factor in your decision, we believe, must be those interests. Tne Navy has been consistent in multiple testimonies in stating its strong belief that NAS Oceana not only best meets their needs for the foreseeable future, but also that only NAS Oceana meets those needs.

Attached you will find depositions taken under oath earlier today from Admiral Fred Metz USN (Ret) and Captain Phil Grandfield USN (Ret) which directly address some statements made by witnesses for the State of Florida concerning Naval aviation training and other issues. In summary these are:

Pilot training at NAS Oceana meets the Navy's needs - As noted in the depositions, no current military aviatian facility possesses completely optimal training characteristics. Both the 800-foot approach limit and the night time flying hours restrictions at Fentress are, in fact, Navy restrictions that have been made with the full understanding of the entire training experience. The Navy has stated that these are acceptable deviations. One musr also recognize that adjustments are necessary at Cecil, especially when departing Whitehouse, where a pilot makes a right versus left Nm because of encroachment.

Srsre Capitol Richmond. V~rginh 23219 (804) 786-2211 TTY (804) 371-8015 www.governor.virginia.gov

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Quantitative data, not opinions, are critical to assessing the comparison of Oceana and Cecil. What quantitative data are there to support the argument that training at Oceana is in any way inferior or increases risk to aviators?

Air Encroachment Is severe around former Cecil Field - The FAA data are compelling, and indicate that two of the top 10 heaviest air traffic route control activities across the nation are in Florida - Miami (ranked 7) and Jacksonville (ranked 8), with approximately 2.4 million flights each. In the airspace above Cecil, there is far more air congestion than the airspace above Oceana. At Oceana, Navy pilots remain in total Navy air traffic control, regardless of the training mission. At Cecil, Navy pilots would cross multiple FAA main air traffic routes to reach their training ranges. Florida argues that the F&4 would give Navy pilots priority, but they can never guarantee it operationally, especially in bad weather, given the level of air traffic saturation.

What quantitative studies have been provided to the Commission on the impact on the Navy training missions of the documented overall air congestion and air saturation in the skies over former Cecil Field?

Environmental Impact statement (EIS) Process and site remediation cannot be completed with the speed promised by Florida officials -The EIS process is regulated by federal law, mandating certain steps and processes. The introduction of military jets, especially with the level of activity contemplated, will require lengthy and major EIS activities.

Cecil Field remains listed on the National Priorities List as of August 22, 2005, as is shown on the following link www.e~a.govlrerrion4/waste/nr>l/n~lfln~cecnasfl.htm. Several operable units containing numerous specific cleanup sites remain on the National Priorities List as of this writing.

How can Florida promise that it can turn over the base free of environmental problems by the end of the year given the base's continued listing as a Superfund site?

Joint Training Opportunities are Greater at NAS Oceaaa - While there are numerous military installations in Florida, there is not the opportunity for full cross-senice training within a single flying cycle. Oceana possesses significantly greater opportunity for cross-service and joint-training activities with other Navy, Air Force, Marine and Army activities within a single flying cycle. This is due to Oceana's proximity to key operational and command hct ions .

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Shouldn't the entire training experience, from "wheels up to wheels down," be part of the comparison between Oceana and the former Cecil Field?

Certified Data on Costs are not available for Cecil - Beyond the sworn deposition, the estimated costs by Florida officials to re-establish operations at the former Cecil Field have almost doubled in the past 10 days. There is no guarantee that the costs will not continue to rise because of the absence of a detailed analysis by independent and knowledgeable officials. There are also no guarantees that timing commitments can be met. The BRAC Commission noted that it had run an independent COBRA analysis that places the costs in the $400 million range, and this differs from the Navy's $1 -6 billion estimate significantly.

While it is reasonable to assume there will be wide variances in costs given the short timeframe for carefkl analysis, who bears the burden if Florida is wrong?

In summary, Mr. Chairman, assertions and promises aside, the wide variance of information, coupled with the absence of critical data, underscores that a decision to close or realign NAS Oceana to a specific site -- going directly against the recommendations of the Department of Defense and the Navy -- can not and should not be made within a limited time window as part of the BRAC process. The Navy should be provided the tools to continue its tangible progress towards long-term Master Jet Base planning and be given the opportunity to develop such a facility on its own timetable.

Thank you for the opportunity to submit these comments. I appreciate your taking the time to consider the Commonwealth's views on this issue.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Sincerely,

Mark R. Warner

Cc: The BRAC Commission Members The Honorable John Warner The Honorable George AlIen The Honorable Thelma Drake The Honorable Randy Forbes

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SWORN STATEMENT OF

F R E D METZ, REAR ADMIRAL, U S N RETIRED

August 22, 2 0 0 5

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REAR ADMIRAL METZ: My name is Fred Metz,

Rear Admiral, United States Navy, retired.

I was i n t h e N a v y for 34 years. I had

seven major commands. I was stationed on b o t h the

E a s t and West Coast, where I had b o t h air and s e a

commands. I have 1,000 carrier landings, over 300

combat missions in Vietnam.

Of the variety of tours that I had , I was

a landing signal officer f o r five tours. One of my

l a s t jobs, I was a division head for a l l t h e aircraft

carriers in the Navy , all the air stations, and I was

the Department of Defense Navy representative for air

s p a c e .

I was concerned with the testimony given

by the Florida delegation to the Commission. Many of

the comments did not tell the complete position needed

to make a crucial decision f o r the base of t h e f u t u r e

of Nava l Aviation.

What is Florida offering the Navy?

Florida is offering the Navy land and a runway and

some buildings. To give that property to the Navy, a

very comprehensive EIS needs to be completed,

environmental impact statement, and I question t h e

timeline that's required for t h e BRAC process to

unfold for the EIS to be completed.

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We've heard a lot of promises. I am

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concerned r h a t the promises were not backed up with

actual f a c t s , and there was a lot of speculation made

would not be able to be completed to make the timeline

t h a t ' s r e q u i r e d by t h e BRAC process.

I One of the critical things the Governor

I of Florida said was that he was going to give Cecil to

the Navy, but we need to remember what he was actually

giving is l a n d and not the air space.

The actual air space around Cecil Field

I that is controlled by the facility includes up to 3,000 feet w i t h i n f i v e miles. Ceci l Field is a

tenant. The air s p a c e around Cecil Field that is

described is the limit of t h e i r c o n t r o l . I f you want

to go anywhere else, you h a v e to go to t h e FAA. You

cannot fly out of Cecil Field without permission. You

I h a v e to get clearances from the FAA to get in the

I We heard a lot in the testimony on

I Saturday about going to different areas and how it was not encumbered. Nowhere did we e v e r hear any

testimony from the FAA, who controls that air space.

I When I was doing air space matters in

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'91, one of the things that we recognized at that time

w a s the increased air traffic along the East Coast was

going to be detrimental to flying in certain ar,eas.

Cecil Field was one of them.

In 1993 the Navy did a very comprehensive

air space study in the area of Cecil Field. And the

concerns t h a t t h e y had a t that time was air space

encroachment around Cecil Field. There were many

consultations with the FAA, and the Navy presented a

lot of questions to the FAA a s far as t h e future

ability for the Cecil Field area to grow and t o be

accommodated also in the FAA structure.

Nowhere in any of the testimony did we

hear or was anything mentioned about F A A ' s approval of

the Navy returning to Cecil Field. We can buy the

land but we cannot control the air space. FAA must be

a major p l a y e r in t h e decision to move to Cecil F i e l d .

If the F-18s go to Cecil Field, they are

going to compete with commercial aircraft leaving from

3uffal0, Boston, New York. Thousands of airplanes a

day pass through the Cecil Field area. The Navy will

:hen be competing with those aircraft for airspace.

Another thing is, there is a proposal to

Lncrease the number of P-3s to go to NAS Jacksonville,

rhich further complicates the air issues in this area.

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A comprehensive study needs to be done

regarding airspace issues. Many questions have to be

answered before a decision for the future of Naval

Aviation can be made.

Is the FAA safely able to accommodate 285

airplanes into the area? Are they willing to

accommodate and can they support the air requirements

of those aircraft?

Have The airspace areas required for the

F-18 Super Hornet been established, which have never

flown out of Cecil Field?

Have they established routes to go to the

target at Pinecastle, which hasn't been in existence

at Cecil Field for four years?

Have they cleared the commercial

approaches into Orlando Airport for the construction

of the new r u n w a y with a major target area for maximum

utilization at Pinecastle?

There are many questions that we did not

hear the answers to that must be addressed before any

decision can be made to go to Cecil Field.

There may be ground encroachment at NAS

Oceana, however the potential air encroachment at

Cecil Field presently a n d also anticipated in the

future has to be addressed before any decision can be

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made.

L i v i n g i n t h e Harnpton R o a d s a r e a , I ' v e

h a d t h e o p p o r t u n i t y t o use some o f my p a s t s k i l l s a s

b e i n g a l a n d i n g s i g n a l o f f i c e r t o be a guest l e c t u r e r

at t h e L a n d i n g S i g n a l O f f i c e r S c h o o l h e r e a t NAS

O c e a n a w h i c h t r a i n s LSOs f r o m a l l o v e r t h e c o u n t r y .

I n t h i s c a p a c i t y I s t a y v e r y c u r r e n t i n

f i e l d c a r r i e r l a n d i n g p r o c e d u r e s ; I v i s i t F e n t r e s s a n d

I a l s o g o a b o a r d s h i p . I ' m v e r y c u r r e n t i n p r e s e n t

p r o c e d u r e s f o r a i r crews t o t r a i n a n d go a b o a r d s h i p .

A s w a s s t a t e d i n o t h e r t e s t i m o n y , F C L P ,

field c a r e l a n d i n g p r a c t i c e , a n d g o i n g a b o a r d s h i p i s

3 v e r y d e m a n d i n g p r o c e s s , b u t no p l a c e i n t h e Navy - -

3nd I ' v e f l o w n a t e v e r y f i e l d i n t h e Navy -- do w e

l a v e t h e o p t i m u m c o n d i t i o n s t h a t r e p l i c a t e t h e

: o n d i t i o n s we encounter on t h e s h i p . The way w e l a n d

)n t h e ship a n d the way we practice on t h e f i e l d a t

l i g h t i s n o t t h e same a n y w h e r e we t r a i n .

The pattern on t h e s h i p i s a v e r y

l e m a n d i n g p a t t e r n , but w e h a v e l i m i t a t i o n s a t e v e r y

i i e l d . The f i e l d t h a t the Navy i s c o n t e m p l a t i n g

) u i l d i n g i n N o r t h C a r o l i n a i s g o i n g t o have the

: a p a b i l i t y t o come c l o s e s t t o r e p l i c a t i n g t h e c a r r i e r

a n d i n g p a t t e r n t h a t we use a b o a r d s h i p a t n i g h t .

However , w e h a v e p r o v e n o v e r t h e years

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1 / since I started flying in 1960 t h a t the way that we do I

4 1 young aviators to safely land is tremendous.

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carrier landing practice now is acceptable, and our

safety record is amazing, and the ability for these

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I The Hampton Roads area offers the Navy

Being a lecturer at the LSO school, I

continually am in contact with the amazing, young

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pilots, the men and women, that fly the aircraft from

our carriers.

12 1 e d u c a t i o n a l opportunities, t h e y are provided a safe

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family so much. In addition to the excellent training

offered to t h e pilots, the family is offered excellent

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l9 1 life the Hampton Roads area has to o f f e r .

environment to raise their children, as well a s

excellent health facilities.

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What the Chief of Naval Operations said

People who come here, many w i l l end up

staying here when they retire. We have one of the

largest milltary retirement communities in the nation,

which is confirmation of the attractive q u a l i t y of

21 I in one of his first statement is, we need to worry

22 1 about combat readiness and family readiness. This

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area offers both. I can attest to the high morale of

the Officers, men and women, and their families that

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a r e a .

With regard t o j o i n g t r a i n i n g , we h a v e

many o u t s t a n d i n g f a c i l i t i e s i n t h e a r e a . Dam Neck

o f f e r s t h e s q u a d r o n s b a t t l e g r o u p t r a i n i n g . The F l e e t

I n t e l l i g e n c e C e n t e r offers a i r c r e w s s t r i k e t a r g e t

t r a i n i n g . T h e p r o x i m i t y o f t h e s h i p a l l o w s u s t o

c o n t i n u a l l y i n t e g r a t e t h e s q u a d r o n s and f a c i l i t i e s .

B u t more i m p o r t a n t l y , a s we have l e a r n e d

o v e r t h e l a s t 1 0 years, t h e r e i s n o t o n e s e r v i c e ; i t ' s

a j o i n t s e r v i c e .

H e r e a t Hampton R o a d s we h a v e t h e a b i l i t y

:O t r a i n w i t h e v e r y s e r v i c e : t h e A i r F o r c e a t L a n g l e y ,

:he s p e c i a l w a r f a r e u n i t s a r e h e r e i n t h e Hampton

t o a d s a r e a a n d c o n t i n u a l l y t r a i n w i t h t h e s e u n i t s . W e

: r a i n w i t h t h e M a r i n e a i r c r a f t down a t C h e r r y P o i n t .

le t r a i n w i t h t h e c o m b a t M a r i n e s a t Camp L e j u n e w h e r e

le have t h e a b i l i t y t o d o c l o s e a i r s u p p o r t . We a l s o

o t o F o r t B r a g g w h e r e we t r a i n w i t h S p e c i a l F o r c e s

Seyrnore J o h n s o n Air Force B a s e .

I t ' s a l l i n t e g r a t e d t r a i n i n g . No l o n g e r

i s i t just o n e Navy: i t ' s a j o i n t b u s i n e s s , a n d

:here's n o w h e r e e l s e on t h e East C o a s t t h a t affords us

;his ability.

We have t h e J o i n t Training Center here in

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t h e Hampton Roads area where we a r e a b l e t o a c t u a l l y

interface w i t h joint training worldwide.

When we deploy, we just don't go as a

ship, we go a s the whole unit. And the joint training

that is afforded t o us in the Hampton Roads area is

essential. Nowhere else can this be accomplished.

The biggest concern that I h a v e r e g a r d i n g

t h e C e c i l F i e l d o p t i o n i s t h a t t h e lack o f c e r t i f i e d

d a t a would make a n y such decision speculative and

risky. T h e Navy has a mission, and the Chief o f Naval

Operations and the Secretary of Defense know better

t h a n anybody how to accomplish t h a t mission.

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A u g . 22. 2005 1:25PM TAYLOE ASSOCIATES N O . 7785 P. 1

COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA AT LARGE, to wit:

I, Scott D. Gregg, R P R , a Notary Public for the

Commonwealth of Virglnia a t Large, of qualification in

the C i r c u i t Court of t h e C i t y o f N o r f o l k whose

commission expires J u l y 31, 2008 , do h e r e b y certify

t h a t the within pe r son , F R E D METZ, REAR ADMIRAL, USN

R E T I R E D , appeared before me a t Virginia Beach,

Virginia, as hereinbefore set forth; and a f t e r being

first duly sworn by me, t h e r e u p o n made t h e above

statement; t h a t h i s statement was recorded in

stenotype by me and reduced to typescript under my

d i r e c t i o n ; a n d t h a r the foregoing transcript

Constitutes a t r u e , a c c u r a t e , and complete t r a n s c r i p t .

I f u r t h e r certify that I am not related t o

nor otherwise associated with any party to this

proceed ing , n o r otherwise interested in the event

thereof. G i v e n under my hand and notarial seal at

2005- N o r f o l k ,

Scott D. Gregg, RPE

Notary public

Fred Metz, Rear Admiral, USN R e t i r e d

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SWORN STATEMENT O F

PHIL GRANDFIELD, CAPTAIN, USN RETIRED

August 2 2 , 2005

V i r g i n i a Beach, Virginia

DELIVER TO:

DELIVERY TO THE BASE REALIGNMENT AND CLOSURE .-

COMMISSION, ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA

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CAPTAIN GRANDFIELD: My name is phi1

Grandfield, former naval aviator and retired Navy

captain. I have about 4,000 hours of experience

flying F-148, F-4s, and F-18s. I also have ten years

of experience as a landing signals officer where my

primary responsibility was training naval aviators to

fly aboard the ship and prepare to fly aboard the

ship.

The decision to support the question

about what is best for the Navy and the future of

naval aviation should be the primary focus of the

decision on NAS Oceana or the former NAS Cecil Field.

Foremost, the decision must support quality of

training for F-18 fleet training squadrons and the

fleet squadrons.

Despite the interviews with NAS Oceana

pilots by BRAC commissioners and che articles and the

press quoting disgruntled pilots, NAS Oceana's

location with e a s y access with over-water and

air-to-ground range has provided quality training to

TACAIR pilots for decades.

Despite comments to the contrary, NAS

Oceana's resources continue to provide high-quality

training. There's never been any official Navy

statement referencing degraded training capabilities

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As stated before, each field has its own

pluses and minuses. The flight restrictions imposed

by the FAA upon operations at Cecil Field have been a

negative impact for years and will likely get worse a s

air traffic through Florida increases. The expanded

traffic flow into Orlando will likely adversely affect

the use of the Pinecastle bombing range in the future.

On the contrary, NAS Oceanats location

allows much improved synergy to train in accordance

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difference in measured readiness levels of NAS Oceana

squadrons and those based elsewhere.

Fighter squadrons at NAS Oceana need to

train with Navy E-2 squadrons, surface ships, Special

Forces, Marine Corps units at Camp Lejune, and a t MCAS

Cherry Point, as well as active duty Air Force

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with the DOD Training Transformation Guidelines,

particularly when compared to Cecil Field.

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enlisted training a s part of the Navy's Revolution In

Training and Sea Enterprise concept as well as joint

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enlisted and maintenance training.

The System of Systems for training

systems e x t e n d s into Homeland security with combined

area resources for force protection.

This consolidation of training assets in

the fleet concentration center will improve readiness

if NAS Oceana stays here in this area as well.

To emphasize my previous comments with

reference to field carrier landing practice

differences between OLF Whitehouse and OLF Fentress.

I reject the implications that aviators

are at any greater risk when flying aboard an aircraft

carrier if their field carxier landing practice

training was conducted at OLF Fentress, vice OLF

Whitehouse. The pattern differences that exist are

considered acceptable deviations in training and h a v e

served us well in t h e p a s t .

Cecil Commerce Field is only a guess a s

t o who gets hurt if we g u e s s wrong. The Cecil

proposal is immensely speculative and if adopted could

easily impair and degrade the Navy's readiness and

mission capabilities in the future.

We cannot create tomorrow's Navy by

relying on the opinions of yesterday's naval

leadership. The current Navy leadership and the

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Secretary of Defense have made their decisions crystal

clear: NAS Oceana must not be closed and remains the

best choice for naval aviation training on the East

Coast.

The Navy trains its people for demanding

skills, piloting aircraft, operating nuclear

propulsion on submarines, surface ships, and on and on

as I referred to in the System of Systems.

T h e r e is a n exemplary record of success

t o show how t h i s long-established training syllabus

has worked here at NAS Oceana. There's absolutely no

credible evidence t h a t pilots trained at NAS Oceana

are any less qualified and competent and capable of

those trained anywhere else.

NAS Oceana served us well for decades

with the resources that still exist today.

It's wrong to rely on the biased opinions

of a few disgruntled aviators and disregard and ignore

the informed, honest, and comprehensive statements of

the Chief of Naval Operations.

Only he has knowledge from every level of

command and every u n i t y in his organization concerning

the quality of training and morale of his people. And

the CNO has stated that he prefers to remain at NAS

Oceana.

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6 T h e Navy is a n increasingly complex and

interdependent organization and is moving away from

stovepipes formed of military organizations into the

System of Systems that I have described.

Moving a key element s u c h a s NAS Oceana

will h a v e far-reaching, adverse consequences to the

Navy's revolution training as it collocates in Harnpton

Roads.

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Aug. 22. 2 0 0 5

:OMMONWEALTH OF V I R G I N I A AT LARGE, to wit:

I, S c o t t D. Gregg, R P R , a N o t a r y Public for

che Commonwealth of V i r g l n i a at Large , of

qualification i n the circuit C o u r t of the City of

l o r f o l k whose commission expires July 31, 2008, do

hereby certify that the w i t h i n person, CAPTAIN P H I L

GRANDFIELD, R E T I R E D , appeared be fore me a t Virginia

Beach, V i r g i n i a , a s hereinbefore s e t forth; and after

b e i n g f i r s t d u l y sworn by me, thereupon made the above

statement; t h a t h i s statement was recorded in

stenotype by me and reduced to t y p e s c r i p t u n d e r my

direction; and that the foregoing transcript

constitute5 a True, a c c u r a t e , and complete transcript,

I f u r t h e r cextify that I am not r e l a t e d to

n o r otherwise associated with any party to this

proceed ing , nor otherwise interested in t h e even t

t h e r e o f . Given under my hand a n d n o t a r i a l seal at

Norfolk, 2005.

S c o t t D. Gregg, RPR

Notary Public

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EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR FAX COVER SHEET

DATE: August 22,2005

PLEASE DEILIVER THE FOLLOWING 1 5 PAGES (INCLUDING COVER SHEET)

TO: Bill Fetzer Senior Analyst Navy Team

FAX: 703-699-2735

FROM: Governor Jeb Bush Executive Office of the Governor

PHONE NUMBER: 850-488-5603 PAX NUMBER: 850-922-4292

MESSAGE: Attached is a copy of Florida's comprehensive proposal to reopen Naval Air Station (NAS) Cecil Field. The original document is being sent via Federal Express to arrive tomorrow morning, Tuesday, August 23,2005.

Thank you.

Governor Bush