130- Biohacking for Moms & Reversing Aging with ...Because if I can hack the Internet, I can hack this. And eventually, I got to the point where I was getting younger and my brain

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Episode130:BiohackingforMoms&Reversing

AgingwithBulletproof’sDaveAsprey


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Child:WelcometomyMommy’spodcast.

ThisepisodeisbroughttoyoubyMyGreenMattress.Ifyou’vebeenreadingWellnessMama,youknowthatIhaveusedandrecommendednaturalandorganicmattressesforyears.AndI’vetriedalotofthem.Wespendathirdtoahalfofourtimeinourbeds,especiallychildren.Sothisisonegreatplacetooptimizeandreduceexposuretoharmfulchemicals.We’vetried,likeIsaid,severaldifferentmattressesovertheyearsandIlovealltheonesthatwe’vetried.They’reallnaturaloptions.ButI’vebeengettingalotofrequestsforamorebudgetfriendlyoptionthatisgoodforkids.Whichiswhywhenourlittlestneededabiggermattress,weorderedonefromMyGreenMattress.TheyareGOTandGOLScertified,theyareGREENGUARDcertifiedandthey’recompletelynatural.They’realsomuchlessexpensivethanalotofmattresses.Soyoucancheckthemoutandfindoutmoreatwellnessmama.com/go/green-mattress.

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Katie:Hello,andwelcometoTheHealthyMomsPodcast.I'mKatiefromwellnessmama.com,andIamheretodaywithsomeoneIcannotwaittochatwith,DaveAspreyisthefounderandCEOofBulletproof.He'sthecreatorofBulletproofcoffeewhichyou'veprobablytried.He'shostoftheaward-winningpodcastBulletproofRadio,andhe'stheNewYorkTimesbestsellingauthorof"Headstrong".He'salsoadadoftwo,andhe'stakenhisbackgroundincomputertechnologyandappliedittothebody,tohelpthousandsofpeopleperformatahigherlevel.Andhe'sheretoday,we'regonnatalkaboutbiohacksyoucandoathome,howtoimproveyourmitochondria,andhowwecangiveourkidsthebestfoundationforlifelonghealth.Sowelcome,Dave.Thankssomuchforbeinghere.Dave:Katie,it'sapleasure.Katie:AwesomeIwouldlovetohearalittlebitofyourstorybecauseI'vehearditpersonally.ButI'dloveforeveryoneelsetohearitaswellbecauseI'veknownyouforafewyearsandinthosefewyears,Iliterally...Ithinkyou'reagingbackwardsyouseemtogetyounger.ButIknowthathasn'talwaysbeenthecase,socanyoukindatakeusthroughyourjourneyandwhatlifewaslikebeforeyoubecametheBulletproofguy?Dave:Oh,sure.Iusedtoweigh300pounds,andI'velost100poundsoffatandsincethenputonalittlebitofmuscle,butlosingthatmuchweightwasahugethingforme.ProblemisthisallstartedbecauseIwasoldwhenIwasyoung.IwasdiagnosedwitharthritiswhenIwas14.IwasobeseasateenagerandbythetimeIgotintomymid-20s,Ihadtriedworkingoutsixdaysaweek,anhourandahalfadayeatingalowfat,low-caloriedietandIcouldn'tlosetheweight.AndIjusthadthisvoiceinmyheadthat,Oh,maybeit'sbecauseI'mnottryinghardenough.MaybeIneedto


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eatevenlessorworkoutsevendaysaweekorwhateveritwas."Andoneday,IjustgottothisconclusionthatmaybewhatI'mdoingjustdoesn'twork,andIsortoffeltbetrayedbythemedicalprofession.AndIwenttothedoctorandsaid,I'mgettingbrainfog.Ican'tpayattentionatwork,mycareeristakingoff,butI'mreallyworried.Andhebasicallylookedatmeandsaid,"Maybeyoushouldtryandlosesomeweight."I'mlike,"How?"Hesaid,"Eathealthy."Whatdoesthatmean?Andhehadnothingtoofferme.AndIsaid,"Well,vitaminCmakesmefeelbetter."Andhesaid,"Stop,itcouldkillyou."AndIsaidwhataboutLinusPauling?LinusPaulingissomethingIwouldexpectadoctortoknowabout.ThisisaguywhowontwoNobelPrizeswhotook90gramsofvitaminCaday.Andthedoctorlookedmeandsaid,"Linuswho?"AndIsaid,"You'refired."AndIwalkedoutthedoor,andIspent$300,000,inthenextfiveyearshackingmyownbiology.AndjustdecidingI'mgoingtospendfourhoursanightuntilIliterallyfallasleepinmycomputerlearninghowthebodyworks.BecauseifIcanhacktheInternet,Icanhackthis.Andeventually,IgottothepointwhereIwasgettingyoungerandmybrainworksbetternowinmymid-40sthanitdidinmymid-20s.AndIstartedwritingsaying,wellfivepeopleknewwhatIknownow.Iffivepeoplecouldpickthatupintheir20s,itwouldsoradicallychangetheirlifeandmyblogwillbeworthit.AnditturnsoutIreach10millionpeopleamonth,andwellnowmyblogbecame"Bulletproof,"andalineofproductsthatthingsIcouldn'tbuy,thingsIwantedtouse.Butitallcamefromthisideaofhavingareallyoldperson'sbrainwithwhatwouldbeconsideredearlyonsetAlzheimer'sorcognitivedementiaorjustbraindysfunction,andbiologicaldysfunction,andbeingunwillingtoputupwithitanymore.Katie:That'sincredibleandI'mcurious,soyousaidyouspent$300,000andmanyyearsonthisprocess.I'dlovetohearacoupleofthethingsthatyoutriedthatworkedreallywell,andafewthatmaybewerecompletefails.Dave:Sure.Atthispoint,thenumberissubstantiallynorthofamillion.Thiswasgoingbacktothebeginningoftheblog.WhatIdidisIjustrealizedbecauseI'dhadsomuchcognitivedysfunction,justsomuchpainandwakingupfeelinglikeIhadn'tslept,andmybackalwayshurt.Myskinwasalwayspuffy,andIjustIdidn'tfeelright.AndIrealizedthemostimportantthingIcoulddowasinvestinthat.SoIwouldalwaystakeprobably20%ofwhateverImadeandputitintomyownbiology,assumingthat'sthebestinvestmentIcouldmake.AndwhatIdidatthebeginningis...okay,I'm26,sothisisgoingback20yearsorso,Iwenttoananti-agingdoctor.Andyoudon'tseealotofpeopleinmid-20sgoingtoanagingdoctor.Butthiswasthefirstguytogetafullhormoneworkup.Andwefiguredoutohlook,youhavelesstestosteronethanyourmom.Andalotmoreestrogenandyourthyroidisn'tworking,andyou'reactuallyathighriskforstrokeandheartattack.TheyactuallydiagnosedthatbeforeIwas30.Andyou'repre-diabeticeventhoughyouworkoutalotandyoueatwhatyouthinkisahealthydiet,andallthesethingsweresortoflike,"What'sgoingon?"Sogettingthedatahelped,andbackthenthiswasquiteexpensive.AndIalsowouldgooutandItriedalotofdifferentsupplements,someofwhichwerereallyeffectiveandsomeofwhichweren't.Ilearnedaboutalighttherapy15yearsagoandboughtmyowndevicesandnowlighttherapyisfinallycomingofage.AndIstartedlookingatokay,what'sgoingoninsidemyhead?IwenttoTibettolearnmeditationfromthe


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masters,thatwaswhereIfirsttriedyakbuttertea.WhichwasthegenesisfortheideaofBulletproofcoffee,whichIcamebackanddidalotoftweakingonthatoriginalidea.Andthroughthecourseofexploringwhatwasgoingoninmyhead,what'sgoingoninmybiologyandtryingthingslikeozonetherapywhichwasprofoundlyeffective,andlearningaboutmitochondrialfunctionandhowtoturnthatbackon.Itwasliterallythousandsoflittlethings,andwhatIfoundthatwasmostimportantwasstopdoingthethingsthatmakeyouweak,andthendothethingsthatmakeyoustrong.Therearesomanyofusrightnowwhowalkaroundtellingourselvesthatwe'redoingsomethingthatmakesusstrongerandmaybeitdoes.Butquiteoftenatthesametime,we'redoingsomethingthatalsomakesusweakatthesametime.Sowegetrandomresultsorit'suncomfortableorwedon'tdoit.Soit'sjustlessworktoquitharmingyourselfthanitistomakeyourselfbetter.Katie:Yeah.Thatmakessomuchsense,andyoutalkaboutmitochondriaalot.Ijustread"Headstrong"recentlyandyoutalkalotin"Headstrong"aboutmitochondria.Buttokindastartatthebeginning,foranyonewho'snotfamiliarwiththemanymorethanfreshmanbiology,canyoukindagogiveusarundownofwhattheydointhebodywhythey'resoimportant?Dave:Sureinseventhgrademaybeyoumighthearthisthing,thatmitochondriaarethepowerplantsofyourcells,andthere'safewofthesethingsfloatingaroundinsideeachcell.Andtheyusedtobeancientbacteria.Well,thestorywetellourselvesisthat2billionyearsago,weharnessedtheseorganismssothatwecouldhaveenergyfromfoodandair.Buttherealstoryisthat2billionyearsagotherewasacellfloatingaroundintheoceansomekindofacreature,probablyaparasitethey'renotreallysure,andthat'sourcellstoday.Andthentheseancientlittlebacteriafoundthecellandthey'relike,"Hey,thatlookslikeagreatPetridish,let'smoveinandtakeover."Andtheydid.Andthey'vebeenrunningthingseversince.Sothemitochondriaareinsidealmostallthecellsinyourbodyexceptforyourredbloodcells.Youhaveupto15,000oftheminyourneurons,inyourbrain,inyoureyes,andinyourheart.Andwomeninterestinglyhave100,000mitochondriapercellinpartsoftheirovaries.Andwhatmitochondriadoisnotjustmakeenergyforyou,theysensetheenvironmentaroundyouandchangewhatyourcellsareallowedtodo.Andwhattheywilldoevenwhengenesgetexpressedbasedonreal-timechangesinyourenvironment.Whatthey'redoingisthey'reworkingtokeeptheirPetridishalive,whichisyou,andtheyrunverybasicbacterialprocesses.Andthethreethingsthatmitochondriacareaboutarethesamethreethingsthatasinglecellbacteriafloatingaroundinalakewouldcareabout.Numberone,runawayfrom,killorhidefromscarythings.Numbertwoeateverything,numberthreehavesexwitheverythingelse.Andthisisagreatrecipeforkeepingaspeciesofbacteriaoraspeciesofmammalsaliveforever.Makesureyoudon'tstarve,makesurenothingkillsyou,andmakesureyoureproducethespecies.AndI'lljusttellyou,Katie,everythingI'veeverdonethatI'mashamedofwasamitochondrialbehavior,notsomethingInecessarilychosetodo.Becausetheyarestillinthere.There'saquadrillionofthemmoreofthemthantherearecellsinyourbody,moreofthemthantherearebacteriainyourgut.Andtheyaremakingmicro-decisionseverysecond.Andtheydecidethingslike,willyougetAlzheimer's,willyougetcancer,areyougoingtohaveafoodcravingrightnow,areyougoingtomakehormonestonight,willyougetdeepsleeptonight,willyouformnewneurons,whatwillyourskinlooklike.Andtheydothisbasedontheirinterpretationoftheenvironmentaroundyou


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andinsideofyou.Katie:Yeah,thatmakesperfectsensetooandIlovethatbecauseinthebookyoutalkaboutthatalot,howlikeyourmitochondriacontrolssomuch.Andyoumentionedlikeforinstance,forsomeonetryingtoloseweightorjusteathealthierthatgivingintocravingsisnotamoralfailing.ButalotofpeopleIthink,feellikeitis.Socanyouexplainthatalittledeeper,oflikehowthisaffectsourliveslikethatonadailybasisandwhatwecandoaboutit?Dave:It'sfunnythatyouaskedthatbecauseit'swhyIcallthebook"Headstrong"becausepartofthewordheadstrongisthatit'saboutbeingalittlebitstubborn,butit'salsoaboutmakingyourheadstrong.Sowillpoweritselfisyourabilitytomakedecisionsaboutwhattodo.Theproblemisthatmakingdecisionstakesenergyandenergycomesfrommitochondria.Soifsomethinglowerstheirabilitytomakeenergy,orifyouhavelowbloodsugar,let'ssay,youwillhavelesswillpowerbydefinition.Becausewillpowertakestheelectricitythat'smadebythesecellsandyouhavelesselectricity.Sorightwhenyou'regonnacallinyourwillpowertodenyacraving,youdon'thaveenoughchargeinyourbatterytousethewillpower.Sothen,someonesetsacookieinfrontofyou,andIrememberthissowellwhenIweighed300poundsintheafternoonmeetings.AndI'dsay,"I'mnotgonnaeatcookiesbecausethey'regonnamakemefateventhoughI'malreadyfat."Andthelittlevoiceinmyheadwouldsay,"Eatthecookie."Andthenmywillpowerwouldkickinandsay,"No."Andthenthevoicewouldcomebackstrongerandsay,"Eatthecookie."AndI'dsay,"No."Andthenwe'dgobackandforthlikeyoudowithatwo-year-old.AndthenalittlewhilelaterI'mlike,"Okay,I'lljusteathalfthecookie."AndthenIwouldfeellikesuchafailurebecauseIwasn'tstrongenough.ButwhatwasgoingonisthattheMSGandsugarthatIhadinmylunchcausedabloodsugarcrash.Sothepartofmethatwasscreamingforthecookiewastryingtokeepmybodyfromstarvingtodeath,anditwasgivingmethesesignalsthatgotprogressivelystronger.Andatthesametime,itwastakingawaymyenergytosayno.SonowonderIgaveintothecravings.It'sanormalthingtodo,butthecravingswerenotcomingfromme,theywerecomingfromancientbacteriathatarerunningthings.Andwhenyourealizethatthere'saseparateconsciousnessinsideofyouthatwantstodothesethreethingsandthatyoucancontroltheenvironment,soitwon'tgetinyourwaythat'showyougetontopofthesecravings.Whenyoueatenoughoftherightkindsoffatsuddenlyyourcellsdon'tfeellikethey'restarvingevenifyourbloodsugarmovesalittlebitupordown,andthenyoudon'tgetthecraving.Soyoudon'thavetousetheenergytosaynotothecraving,andthenyoucancongratulateyourselfforbeingagoodpersonandhavingmorewillpower,oryoucouldjustsay,"Well,Ihackedthatproblemsothevoiceinmyheaddidn'ttellmetoeatthecookie."WhenIdowhatIdowiththeBulletproofdietandespeciallywithaBulletproofcoffeethatcontainsanoilcalledBrainoctane,thatraisesenergyinthebloodthatdoesn'tcomefromsugar.Thereisnovoiceinmyhead.Youputthecookieinfrontofmeandit'slikeactually,I'mfull.Idon'treallywantthecookie.Andforme,thatwasveryliberatingasanobesepersonthatwaspre-diabetic.Itusedtobesuchahugepartofmylife,whenI'mIgonnahavelunch,what'sgonnabenext?Andtherewasalwaysalittleprocessrunninginmybrainsaying,"Youknow,what'sthenextmeal?Whatareyougonnaeat?Howareyougonnakeepyourenergyup?"Andit'scompletelydifferentwhenyoucanjustlookatfoodandsay,"IfIdon'teatthismeal,I'm


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gonnabefine.Nothing'sgoingtohappen.AndifIeatthismeal,I'mgonnachoosetoeatthestuffthatmakesmefeelgoodandtastegood."Butitisn'tbornoutofasenseofdesperationorlikeI'mgoingtodieorI'mgoingtocrashifIdon'tgetit.IneverhadthatwhenIwasyoung,andit'sprettyliberatingtojustgetcontrolofyourbiologythatway.Katie:Yeah,andI'vehearditexplainedaswelllikeforsomeonewho'shavingthosekindsofcravings,andhasthosekindsofbiochemicalissues,it'sliterallylikeifyoutrytotellyourself,"Justdon'tbreatheforawhile."Likeeventuallyyourbody'sresponseisgoingtomakeyoudoitbecauselikeyousaid,there'sabiochemicalthinghappeninginyourbody,andit'snotjustyourwillpoweratthatpoint.Ithinkjustthatalonecanbeveryliberatingtopeople,justtounderstandthatsotheydon'tfeellikeamoralfailure.Dave:Itisnotamoralfailingifyouarefat,andIwilltellyoufatpeople,havingbeenoneformuchofmylife,arethebestwillpowerathletesinexistence.Andit'sbecausewhenyourbodyistakingtheenergyyou'resupposedtouseforthinkingandfeelingandmovingandbreathing,andinsteadofdoingthatit'sputtingitintoexcessfatstorage,thatmeansthatyou'rechronicallydeprivedofenergythatshouldbegoingintoactivity.Andyouhavelessfreewillpower.Atthesametime,youareusingthatwillpowertotellyourselfnottoeatandtodoeverythingelsethatyou'resupposedtodoinyourlife.Likehavenormalemotionalresponses,andnotyellatpeopleyoucareaboutallthatkindofstuff.Anditwasjustreallyliberatingformetounderstandoh,thisisaseparateconsciousnesstryingtokeepmybodyalive,andthefactthatthishappensisn'tabadthing.Andeventothisday,Idonotexperiencecravings,unlessI'minareallytoxicenvironment.Andtherearecertainthingsinmycase,oneofthereasonsIwasfatandmymitochondriabroke,isthatIlivedinahousethathadtoxicmoldwhenIwasachild,andagainasayoungman.Toxicmoldbreaksyourmitochondriaandcausesyoutogainweightnomatterwhatyoueat.SoIwasdealingwithlessenergyandmorefatandblamingmyselfforit.ButtothisverydayifIwalkintoamoldybuildingandIstayinthereforalittlewhile,Iwillgetasugarcravingandwhatthatis,ismybodygoingwejustlostourability,mymitochondriasaying,"Welostourabilitytomakeenergythewaywedidbefore.Somethinggotintheway.Couldyoupleaseeatsomesugar."AndyouknowwhatIdoiskindofamazing,Ieatsomesugar.AndIdothatonceandIhavetherightkindsoffatatthesametime,andItaketoxinsbiddingsubstancesandmitochondriaenhancers,andI'mbackupandrunningagaininacouplehours.IfIdidn'tquote"giveintothatcraving,"Ididn'tlistentomybody,IwouldactuallycrashharderthanInormallydo.ItusedtotakemeamonthafterIwouldbeexposedtoreallytoxicenvironmentbeforeI'dfeellikemybrainwasbackonline.Now,it'sacouplehoursbecauseIunderstandthebiochemistry.Therearehundredsofmillionsofpeoplewhowalkaroundwithbrainfogmuchofthetimeorsomeofthetime.Andoftentimesit'sanenvironmentaltoxins,sometimesit'stoxinsformedinthegut,sometimesit'sbecausethey'reeatingabunchoffriedfood,andMSG,orfoodchemicalsthatarepoisoningtheirbrain,orit'sjustagingmitochondriadysfunction.Allofthatishackableandit'snoteventhathardwhenyouunderstandthesystemandyouhavethetoolsatyourdisposal.IwrotemylastcouplebooksspecificallytojustshowpeoplethisiswhatnoonetoldmewhenIwas25andstrugglingtofocusinameeting,nomatterwhatIdid.Icouldbitemylip.


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Icouldsqueezemyfingernailsintomypalmtotryandstayawake,andstayfocusedandjustapplyeverybitofwillpowerIhad,andstillnotrememberanythinginthemeeting.Becausemybiologywasn'tworking.Whenyourealizeyourbodydoesn'tlistentoyouverywell,itlistenstotheworldaroundyou,andafteritdoesthatitlistenstoyoutoseeifyouhavechronicanxietywhichitcandetectthroughthewayyourheartbeatchanges.Well,okaychangetheenvironmentaroundyouandinsideofyouincludingthefoodthatyoueat,includingtheairthatyou'rebreathing,includingthelightthatyou'reexposedto.Makingsimplechangesthatwaycanradicallyimprovetheamountofwillpoweryouhaveandtheamountofenergyyouhave.Andthesideeffectofthatisyoumightgrowabsandyoumightneednewpants,andthat'snotabadthing.Katie:Yeah,Ilovethatyou'rebringingthatvoicetotheconversationandtakingthatawayfromwhatforsolongwasjustlikecaloriesormacronutrientsorthesethingsthatpeoplewouldgethungupon.AndI'mcurious,soyou'vedonealotofresearchonthisandalsotrialonyourself,butwhatdoyouthinkaresomeofthebiggestfactorsthatareaffectingmitochondrialfunctionkindofacrosstheboardforallofus?Dave:Rightnow48%ofpeopleunderage40haveearlyonsetmitochondrialdysfunction,andeveryoneover40hasmitochondrialdysfunctioncalledaging.AndIwouldarguethat'salsoearlyonsetbecausewedon'thavetoagethewaywedo.Sosomeofthishappensjustbecauseovertimeyourmitochondriawearoutandtheydon'treplacethemselves.Sooneofthethingsyoucandotoforcethemtoreplacethemselvesisyouneedtoteachthesequadrillionbacteriafloatingaround,theyworkasasystembutthey'realsoabunchofindividualbacteriathatarenowlinkedintoourcells.Youteachthemyouknowwhat,ifyoucan'tmakeenergyquicklyyou'llhavetodie.Soyousendthemthisrulethatsaysonlythestrongsurvive.Oneofthewaysyoudothatishigh-intensityintervaltraining.Andhere'sthedeal,Ihavetwoyoungkids,Ihavebasicallythreefull-timejobs.I'mNewYorkTimesbestsellingauthor,Irunanaward-winningpodcast,andaventure-backedfoodcompany,Bulletproof,right?Sotheseareallthingsthattakeupmoretimethantheyshould.SoIdon'twannaspendtwohoursadayexercising.High-intensityintervaltrainingmeansthatonceaweek,yousprintfor60to90secondsrestforaminute,andthendoitagain.AndIdescribethatin"Headstrong"there'sabenefittoactuallylayingdownbetweenthesprintstocauseyourbodytorecoverevenfaster,butit'sthatintenseexhaustion.SamethingifI'mgonnaliftsomethingforweightlifting,IdothatonceaweekandIdoitusuallywithacomputer.WehaveawholelabinSantaMonicanow,wejustopenedlastweekactuallytothepublic,whereyoucanexhaustyourmusclesasfastaspossible.Thepointhereisyou'retalkingabout15minutesaweekofexercise,butyousendthisreallystrongsignaltothemitochondriathatsays,"Ifyoucan'tproducealltheenergyIwantrightaway,you'retooweak.Youcandie,andformanew,fresh,young,healthymitochondriacapableofproducingenergythatwillbedemandedbytheworldwelivein."Theotherthingthat'sinthebookthat'sreallyhelpful,issomethingthatpeoplelisteningwillnotlikemefor,forthefirstfourdays.Andeverymorningattheendofyourshowerwhenthewaterishittingyourfaceandyourchestturnitonfullblastcoldwater.You'lllastabouteightsecondsandswearthefirsttime,andthat'syourmitochondriatellingyouthatyou'regoingtodiefromthecoldwater.Youknowthat'saliebutyou'regonnagetoutofthewater.Theseconddayyou'llprobablygo20seconds,thethirdday40seconds.Andafterthefourthorfifthdaysuddenly,youknow


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whatthisdoesn'thurtatall.Infact,itfeelsreallygood.Andwhathappenedthereisthatthingthatsays,"You'regoingtodie,"wasnotyougoingtodie.Itwasyourmitochondriasayingtheweakonesofusaregoingtodie.Butaslongasyouconsistentlydothisyoufeelsuperchargedwhenyougetoutoftheshower.Yourskinlooksbetterandyouburnhundredsmorecaloriesthroughoutthedaybecauseofabriefcoldexposure.Youjusttoldthosemitochondria,"Ifyoucan'tmakeenoughheattostaywarm,getoutoftheway.Thereareotherthingsyoucando."Andthere'ssomethingcalledintermittentfastingwhichisapowerfultechniquebutonethat'sabitriskyforwomen.Andinthistechnique,youdon'teatfor18hoursadayeffectivelywith...yousleep.Youdon'teatwhenyou'reasleepusually.Andthen,don'thavebreakfast.Youcanhavecoffeeortea,eitherblackorthere'satechniquecalledBulletproofintermittentfasting.Wehaveonlycertainkindsoffatbutnocarbohydratesandnoproteinwhatsoever,andthenhavealatelunch,whichisaround2or3p.m.Andyoueatanicelunchandanicedinner.Andifyoudothatevenacoupletimesaweek,itjusttellsyourmitochondria,"Youbetterbewillingandabletolivefor18hourswithoutfood."Butifyoudothiseveryday,especiallyasawomanittendstocauserenaldistress,itlowerssleepquality,anditcancauseproblemswiththemonthlycycle.Sothisissomethingtodoacoupletimesaweek.Thesearethingsthatyoujustsay,"Hey,it'stimetobestrong."Andwhenyoudothatatthecellularlevelitrollsupandallofasuddenyouhavemorewillpower.Youhavemoreenergy.Youhavelesscravings.Yourbrainworksbetter,yourhormonesworkbetter,yourskinlooksbetter.Andontopofthat,oneofthemostimportanttoolsoutthereissomethingcalledketosis.Ithinkyou'vetalkedaboutitwithyourlistenersbefore.Butbasically,yourbodyhastheabilitytoburnsugarasaprimaryfuelsource,andithastheabilitytoburnfatasaprimaryfuelsource.Togointothisketosisfatburningmodeittakesaboutfourdaysofeatinglowproteinandverylowcarbohydratesandrelativelyhighamountsoffat.Andthisisagoodthingtogointosometimes.However,mostofuswithjobsandkidsandbusylivesdon'tnecessarilydothisveryoften.AndIknowbecauseI'vegonetotheAmericanAcademyofAnti-AgingMedicine.I'mpresentingtoaroomfullof3000anti-agingdoctors,andIsay,"Raiseyourhand,howmanyofyouhavebeeninketosis?"Everyoneofthosedoctorsintheroomraisestheirhand.They'veatleasttriedtodoingthislowcarbthing,andtheyknowthatit'sgoodforthem.AndthenIsaid,"Allright,howmanyofyouareinketosisrightnow?"Andyouseelike20handsgoup.Soweallknowit'sgoodbutnoonedoesit.ThehackforthatisaningredientinBulletproofCoffee,it'ssomethingyoucangetatWholeFoods,it'scalledBrainOctaneOil.Thisisanoilthatcomesfromcoconutoil,butit'sabout5%ofwhat'sfoundincoconutoil.Soyoucan'tgetenoughofitfromjusteatingcoconutoil.Anditcausesyourbodytomakeketonesdirectlythatwillgointoyourbloodasifyou'vebeenfastingforfourdayseventhoughyoudidn't.SowhatIdo...Idothisformykids,mywifewho'saphysician,andIdothiseveryday.WepouralittlebitofBrainOctaneintowhateverwe'reeating.AndwhenIhaveBulletproofcoffeeforbreakfastwhichismynormalbreakfast,it'sinthecoffee.ButI'llpouritonmysushi.I'llpouritinmyvegetables.I'lluseinmysaladdressings.Somybodyalwayshassomefatburningmoleculescalledketones,andthere'ssomebloodglucosepresent.Whenyoudothis,anytimeyourbloodsugargoesdownalittlebit,youdon'thavetheemergencyresponsein


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thebodyanymore,becausethecellsarelike,"I'vegotthisbackupenergysourcefromfat."Andthatradicallychangesyourappetitelevelsandthey'reevenstudiesthatshowmildketosis.WhichiswhatI'mdescribingwillchangetwodifferenthormonesthatcanradicallychangeyourrelationshipwithfood.Oneofthosehormonesiscalledghrelin.andlevelsjustverymildlevelsofketosisthekindyoucanachievewithbrainoctaneorbyfasting,orbyahigh-fat,lowcarbdiet.Itchangesghrelinlevelswhichmakesyoulesshungry.Andthere'sanotherhormonecalledCCK,andCCKisnotbroughttoyoubyCalvinKleineventhoughitkindofsoundslikeit.It'sthefullnesshormone.AndCCKlevelsgoupwhentherearemildlevelsofketosisintheblood.SoyoupourthisstuffonyourfoodoryougointotheketosismodeoftheBulletproofdiet,somepaleodiets.Iknowthatyourwork,Katie,youtalkaboutketosisaswell.Anyofthosewaystogetintoitwillautomaticallymeanyoulookatthisfood,andbeforeyou'veheardthevoiceinyourheadsaying,"Eatitoryou'lldie."Andallofasudden,thevoiceinyourheadsays,"Actually,I'vegotenoughenergyrightnow.Likeyoucouldeatitornot.Itdoesn'treallymatter."Tolookatfoodandhavetheabilitytomakearationalchoiceaboutwhetheryouwannaintroducethatintoyourbody,thatisoneofthemostliberatingthingsyoucando.Becausetheguiltandtheshameandthesortofbeatingyourselfupbecauseyouatethat,backaway.Becauseyou'reusuallyeatingitbecausepartofyourbodythoughtyou'regonnadieifyoudidn'teatit.Anditwasareasonablethingtodo.Therearepeoplewithemotionaleatingdisorderswhereyou'reeatingforloveorcompanyorthingslikethat,I'mnotgoingaboutthat.Butalotoftimesthesecravings,theseintensecravings,mostofusdon'tevenknowthedifferencebetweenhungerandcravings.Becausewe'reconstantlycravingbecauseweeatso-calledhealthywholegrainsoreatingchemicalsoreventypesofvegetablesthattriggerintensecravingsinusandwejustdon'tknowit.Somyworkhasbeenaroundshowingpeoplehowtoturnuptheenergyavailableforyourcellstomakeenergyandturningdownthesethingsthatcausecravings.Andthesideeffectislessinflammation,lesshungerandyoutypicallyloseweightwithouteffort.Butmoreimportantly,youhavetheenergytobringiteveryday,thekindofenergythatIwasdesperateforinmy20sthatIhadlost.IhavemoreenergythanI'veeverhadinmylife,andIruncirclesaroundpeople20yearsyoungerthanme.AndIjustloveitbecauseIbuiltthat,andit'snotthathardwhenyouhavetherightinfo.Katie:Yeah,Iloveit,andIbetthere'salotofwomenlisteningwhoaresayinglike,"That'sallgreat.I'mnotdoingthecoldthingbecausethat'shorribleandIdon'tdocold."AndsoIwannalikeechothatbecauseIwasthatwayforalongtime.Iwaslike,"Nope,I'lldoeverythingelse.Idon'tlikethecold,andwestarteddoingicebaths.Likenotjustcoldshowers,butlikefulloutsittinginabathtubfullofice.Andthefirsttime,likeyousaid,Icouldlastlike10seconds,andthenthenexttimeitwaslikeaminute.Andnowlikewe'lldolike30minutesicebathsontheweekend.It'slikeachallenge.Butitreallydoes,likethefeelingthatyougetwhenyougetoutofthatisabsolutelyincredible.It'ssecondtonone.AndI'malsogladthatyoumentionedyourkidsbecauseIwasreallyhopingwecouldtalkaboutthistopic.I'mguessingyoudon'tgettotalkaboutitasmuchon"Bulletproof."ButIknowthatyou'reverypassionateaboutraisinghealthy,amazingchildren,andI'vemetatleastyourdaughterandshe'sabsolutelyincredible.SoI'dlovetohear...likelet'stalkaboutparentingandyourparentingstrategy,whataresomeofthenon-negotiablesthatyoudowithyourkidstomakesuretheystayhealthy?


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Dave:Allright,I'mgoingtoanswerthat.ButfirstI'mgoingtobeterriblyrudeandI'mgonnatalkaboutboobs,isthatokay?Katie:Goforit.Dave:Okay.MywifeisaphysicianfromSweden.Shecouldn'tmaketheconferencethisyearbecausesheactuallyhadaconcussionbelieveitornot.Butourfirstbookwasaboutfertility,andIspentfouryearsdoingresearchtorestoreherfertilitybecauseshewasinfertile.AndIreallyduginonthisstuffandwehadourkidsat39and42.Butoneofthethingsthatshe'snoticedfromdoingthesecoldshowers,andthingslikethatis,Imentionthewaterhitsyouintheforeheadandthechestisthatyouhavemuchmoreyouthfulbreastsasaresultofdoingthecoldshower.AndbecausesheisfromSwedenshesaid,"ThisisanoldSwedishtraditionthatwomenwoulddo,wheretheywouldusesnowontheirbreasts."Butalittlebitofcoldcangoalongwaytowardsmaintainingyouthfulnessinapartofwomenthatwell,Ithinkmostwomenwouldliketokeeptheminthebestshapetheycan.Andthatcoldshowerreallyhelpsbecausecoldwatercausescollagenre-synthesis,whichcollagenistheconnectivetissueinyourcells.Soifyoucanhaveatighterhealthierskinonpartsofthebodythattendtosagespeciallyifyouhavehadkids,there'sanextrabenefitforwomen,thatmendon'tusuallygetfromthosecoldshowers.Katie:That'sawesomeandforthefacetoo,that'sgreatifitimprovescollagen.

Dave:Yeah,itreallydoes

Katie:That'sanawesomethingtodo.Dave:Allright,soseethatwasn'tasbadasyouthoughtitwouldbe,right?Now,let'stalkkids.Iliveonanorganicfarm.WhenmykidswereyoungwedecidedtomoveuptoVancouverIsland.AndoneofthereasonsforthatwasthatIwantedmykidstogotoaWaldorfschool,andIwantedthemtobeabletoplayoutdoorsfortwohoursaday.Andabouttwomonthsago,ItookmykidstoSanFranciscowhereIusedtolive,andwewerewanderingarounddowntown.Andmydaughterlookedatme,she's10,andshesays,"Daddy,whatdoallthechildrendohereforfunwhentheydon'thaveaforest?"Andshewaslookingaroundlikewhatdoyoudohere?Itwasalmostlikeaforeignenvironmenttoher,anditwassuchaninnocentcutecomment.ButoneofthethingsthatIthinkmattersmostforkids,isthattheygettherightbuildingblockssothattheycanlearntomanagealltheemotionsthatturnonastheyhitdifferentstagesofchildhooddevelopment.Butiftheyhaveavoiceintheirheadscreamingatthem,"Youarestarvingrightnow,"theyhaveahardtimefocusing.Andtheygetthesebigemotionalswingsandtheygetamplifiedbytheirfood.Andthenifkidsarealwaysondevicesandtheydon'tgettimeinnature,andtimetojustplayandtimetobe,theygetreally,reallystressed.Andoneofthethingsthatstressdoesisitinhibitsmitochondrialfunction.AndIthinkthatstressandtoxinsandjustthelackofnatureandbaddietsaresomeofthereasonsthatwe'reseeinghalfofpeopleunderage40,havingpoorlyfunctioningmitochondria.


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Somykidsget...theyeattheBulletproofdiet.Theygetmoderateamountsoflowtoxincarbs,thingslikewhiterice,andsweetpotatoes,andbutternutsquash.Theydon'tavoidallsugar.Everynowandthenwe'llhavejam.Theycanhaveapieceoffruitaday,buttheydon'teatagiantfruitsmoothieforbreakfast,whichsomanyoftheirfriendsdo,andthentwohourslater,theirfriendsarestarving.Andmykidsarelike,"IhadduckeggsandbaconorIhadavocadosandsmokedsalmonforbreakfast,I'mnothungry.Canwejustkeepplaying?"AndtheyalwaysgetanounceortwoofBulletproofcoffeebecausewhenmykidsgetbrainoctaneoil,they'recalmandfocused.Andiftheydon'thaveenoughfatintheirdiet,ortheydon'thavethosemildketones,theybecomefoodobsessed.LastnightwasHalloween,andthekidswentoutandtheytrickortreatedwithalltheirfriends,andtheycamebackandIsaid,"Allright,here'sthedealyoucantradeyourcandyfor20bucksoryoucantradeitfordarkchocolate.Andbulletproofmakesadarkchocolatewithzerosugar.Butfrankly,ifit'saclean,wellmanufactured85%darkchocolate,I'dhadgiventhemthattoo.Andsothekidsarelike,"Oh,thisisgreat.We'regonnagetthekindofchocolatewelike.We'renotgonnaeatallthesetartrazinedyesandstrangecolors."Andtheyactuallyreadthelabelsonthecandyandtheystartlaughing,like"Whywouldyouwannaputthisstuffinyourbody?"AndIdealtwiththissituationacoupleyearsagowhenthekidswereyounger.Ourhousekeeperwentto...I'mgonnasaythis,wenttoMcDonald'sforcoffee.I'mlike,"WhywouldyougotoMcDonald's?LikeIrunacoffeecompany.There'splentyofcoffeehere.”Butshe'slike,"IneededmycoffeebeforeIgottoyourhouse,andIwasgonnadie."Likeallright,fine.Sothekidswerejustfascinatedbecausewedon'treallygotoMcDonald's.Infact,we'venevertakenthem.Andtheysawthedrive-throughandthey'relike,"What?Youmeanyoucantalktothespeakerandthenfoodcomesoutlikethisisamazing."Soourhousekeeperorderedcoffeeandthenthekidsrolledthewindowdownandsaid,"Iwantonepoopy,chemicallatte,please."Becausewe'vetalkedabouthowaddingchemicalstoyourstuffisn'tokay,andthattheydothatatfastfoodplaces.Butwhentheygothomeandthehousekeepertoldmeandmykids,"Peoplearegonnaeatwhatthey'regonnaeatanditisnotyourjobtojudgeotherpeople.Andpeoplecanmaketheirownchoices.Andaspeoplegetolder,theygettomakemorechoices.Sohere'swhatIwantyoutodo,IwanttogotoMcDonald'swithme,andwe'regonnaorderwhateveryouwant,havesomeFrenchfries.Youknowhavethepie,you'llgetatoy,you'llgettoplay,it'sgonnabefun."Andtheylookedatmeoffended,andtheysaid,"Youcan'tmakeus."Isaid,"Whatdoyoumean,it'sgonnabefun."Andtheysaid,"We'veeatenfoodthatdoesn'tmakeusfeelgood.Weknowwhatthatfeelslike,andwedon'tlikefeelingthatway.Sowhenweeatfoodthatdoesn'tmakeusfeelgood,weaskyoutogiveusthecharcoal."BulletproofmakesanactivatedcharcoalthatI'llgivethekidsifthey'refeelinglikereallyanxious,andlikebasicallycrankyafterameal.Especiallywhentheyeatout,it'susuallythere'ssomethinginthemealthatdidn'tagree.Yougivethematoxinbinder,andthenthey'rebacktothemselves10minuteslater.Buttheyliterallyarelike,"We'renotinterested.Wedon'tcarehowgoodittastes,wecarehowwe'regoingtofeel."Soteachingthekidslikethisiswhatfooddoesforyou.Ofcourse,youwantittotastegood,andyoucanmakeittastegood.Butifallyoucareaboutistaste,youdon'tcareabouthowyoufeelyou'reprobablygonnawalkaroundyellingatyourbrotheroryoursisterandfeelinglotsofemotionsthatarereallyhardtodealwith.Whereasifyoueattherightfoods,whenyoudofeelyouremotions,youhavemoreenergytolearnfromthe


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emotions,anddrawapictureofthemandfigureoutwhat'sreallygoingonhere.Whyareyoufeelingallupsetrightnow,sothattheycanlearntomanagewhatitistobeahuman.AndIthinkit'sagreatgift,butit'sdefinitelyaburdenasaparentbecauseweliveadifferentlifethanalotofpeople.Katie:That'ssotrueandI'mgladyoubroughtitupbecausewehadthesamesortofexperiencehere.Weliveinanawesomeneighborhoodandthankfully,thekidswereabletogooutandplaywiththeirfriends,andgettodothecostumes.Andmineactuallychosenoteventogogetcandy.Theyjustwantedtoplaythewholetime,butItakealotofheatforthat.It'skindofasoapboxformebecauseIholdveryfirmbehindthestatementthatkidsdon'tneedrefinedsugarever.It'snotabalancething.Theytrulydon'tneeditever.AndItakealotofheatfrompeoplewhoarelike,"No,that'sallpartofchildhood.Youshouldn't.It'snotbalancedifyoudon'tletthemeatsugarsometimes,andallthis."AndI'mlikeI'mgladtohearthereareotherparentswhoholdfirmtothatlineaswellbecauseit'ssotrue.Itaffectsthemdrastically.Dave:Itaffectsusalot,butwehavethisprefrontalcortexthat'sfullyformed,theso-calledadultpartofthebrainthatfinishesgettingbakedataboutage24.Sowe'rebetterabletohandleacravingoranemotionalsurgeandmaketherightchoice.Withkids,they'rejustlearningtodothat,andtheydon'thavethehardwareinplacetodoityet.Soteachingthemtohavelessofthesesurgesbycontrollingtheirdiet,actuallyreallyisofservicetothem.Sotheycantakeallofthatextraenergy,anduseittolearnhowtoemptythedishwasherthefirsttimeyouaskthem,andhowtobrushtheirteethwithoutbeingdistracted75times,andallofthoseotherthings.Italsohasasideeffectofradicallyimprovingsleepquality.Mykidssleepinblacked-outrooms,becauselightexposureisahugeproblemforyourmitochondria.They'relightsensitive.Andifyouexposeyoureyesoryourskintobright...especiallyLEDandfluorescentlights,anytimeafterthesunisgonedown,whathappensisthatsleepgetsdisrupted.Orifyoueattoxinsatdinner,sleepgetsdisrupted,andtheygetsweatyandcrankyanditchyandhavetowakeupandpeeallthetime.Sincemykidssleepinblackedoutbedrooms,wehavedimmerswitchesandredlightingatnight.AndIstartedacompanycalledTrueDarkthatmakesspecialglasses,wejustcameoutwithkids'glassesthatfilterouteverykindoflightthattellsyourbodythatit'sdaytime.Soifyouwearthoseforhalfanhourbeforebed,youcangetthekidstosleepallnight,whichimprovesthequalityofmymarriageforsure.Becausewegetbettersleepandwegetsomeadulttime,whichiswonderful.Butit'salsolikekidsneedtheirsleepandifthey'regettingpoorqualitysleepbecauseyourlightingenvironmentorbecauseyourfoodenvironmentisunintentionallymovinginthewrongdirection,likeyourqualityoflifegoesdowntoo.Katie:Yeah,exactlyandIthinkthekeytowhatyousaidwasalsotheeducationpiece,becauseyoudidn'ttellyourkids,"Youabsolutelymaynoteatthiscandy."Youeducatedthem.AndIthinkthatinaculturewhereeverykid'smealeverislikechickentendersandFrenchfriesandburgers,weoftenunderestimatehowmuchkidscanlearn.Becausehowoldareyours?Tenandeight?Dave:They'reeightandten,somethingelseinteresting,aboutaquarterofusaresensitivetonightshadevegetables.Andthesearethingslikepotatoes,tomatoes,eggplants,bellpeppers,hotpeppersandit'sgenetic,andit'snotanallergy.It'sjustthecompoundsthattheseplantsmaketoprotecttheplantfrombeingeaten,theyaredirectlytoxictoyourmitochondria,ifyouhavecertainDNA.Itrunsinmyfamily.SoIgrewupwith


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thisarthritisandthisconstantpaininmyneckandshouldersthatjustnevereverwentaway.Itturnsoutit'scausedbythosefoodgroups,forotherpeopletheymightbehealthy.Butmysonhasthisforsure.Andheknowsifheeatsabiteofpotatothathe'sgonnahaveneckpainforaweek,andit'sabsolutelyrepeatableandreproducible.Solastnighthesaid,"Daddy,somebodygavemethisgluten-freecookie,buttheydidn'tknowwhatwasinit.I'mprettysureithaspotatostarch,soI'mnotgonnaeatit.Isitokay?"I'mlike,"Yeah,youcaneatitornoteatit,butifyouwantwhenyoucomehome,I'llgiveyousomecoconuticecreaminsteadbecauseweknowthatthat'ssafe."Andhethoughtaboutitandsaid,"IthinkI'lleattheicecream."Andhewascompletelyhappybecausehedoesn'tlikeitwhenhisneckhurtseither.Beforeitwasjust,"Daddy,canyourubmyneck,canyourubmyneck."Justthoselittlethings.Imaginethenext40yearsofhislifeifhedidn'tknowthat,hecouldhavechronicpain,thewayIdid,andnotknowwhy,andit'sbecauseheatethecookiewithpotatostarchinit.It'snottosaypotatostarchisbad,butifyouhaven'ttested,ifyoudon'tknowwhetheryourespondtotheseornot,you'rejustwalkingaroundunintentionallydoingthingsthatmakeyourkidslesscomfortable,makeyoulessuncomfortable.Katie:Right,whichisn'ttrulybalancedatall,andIthinkthat'ssuchtheimportantpartis.Ifwecaneducatethemandletthemmakethedecisions,wemightbeshockedhowoftentheymakegooddecisions.

ThisepisodeisbroughttoyoubyMyGreenMattress.Ifyou’vebeenreadingWellnessMama,youknowthatIhaveusedandrecommendednaturalandorganicmattressesforyears.AndI’vetriedalotofthem.Wespendathirdtoahalfofourtimeinourbeds,especiallychildren.Sothisisonegreatplacetooptimizeandreduceexposuretoharmfulchemicals.We’vetried,likeIsaid,severaldifferentmattressesovertheyearsandIlovealltheonesthatwe’vetried.They’reallnaturaloptions.ButI’vebeengettingalotofrequestsforamorebudgetfriendlyoptionthatisgoodforkids.Whichiswhywhenourlittlestneededabiggermattress,weorderedonefromMyGreenMattress.TheyareGOTandGOLScertified,theyareGREENGUARDcertifiedandthey’recompletelynatural.They’realsomuchlessexpensivethanalotofmattresses.Soyoucancheckthemoutandfindoutmoreatwellnessmama.com/go/green-mattress.

Thispodcastisbroughttoyoubymyobuddy.Thisthingisoneofmydailygo-to’sforrelaxationbecauseitcombinesthebenefitsofinfraredheat,percussivemassageandvibrationaltherapyforwhatIcanonlydescribeasamixtureofdeeptissuemassageandmyofascialreleaseallinonedevice.IthasreallyreducedmymuscletensionandmyneedformassageandmanypeoplewithconditionslikeMS,chronicfatigue,etcareusingthisformusclerelief.Also,manyathletesuseitforfasterrecovery.Ipersonallyfindthebiggestbenefitforrelaxationandforfasciawork,butyoucantryitoutatwellnessmama.com/go/myobuddyandmakesuretochecktheshownotesforaspecialdiscount.

Katie:Andalsotakeawayourpreconceivednotionsthatlikekidswillonlybehappyintheirchildhoodiftheyareeatingsugarallthetime.Becausecertainly...likeyou'veseenthatandI'veseenonmykids,it'snotlikethatatall.Andyou'regivingthemthegiftofnotonlyhealthbuteducationandindependencetomaketheirowndecisionsaboutit.Andthat'smuchmoreempoweringthanbeingbalancedandeatingsugaronceaweek,Ithink.Dave:Ithinkso.Mykidssometimeshavealittlebitofsugarandit'sokay,andwedon'tjudgethemonthat.Butweexplained,"Look,sugarmakesyougobonkersifyouhavealotofit.Andifyoueatiteverydayyou'renotgonnalikeit."Andthentheyeatitandthenalittlewhilelatertheyfeelallovertheplace.AndI'llsay,


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"Hey,younoticehowyourbodyfeelsrightnow?That'swhatyouate."Andthey'relike,"Oh,okay."Andthenyouknowtheyrunintothewallordowhateverthey'regonnado.Butjusttotiethatinthatwhatyoudidchangedhowyoufelt,nobodytaughtmethat.Itwaslikeohyoujustfeelthewayyou'refeelingandyouactthewayyou'regonnaactandyou'redoingthatbecauseyou'remisbehaving,orbecauseyouweren'tstrongenoughtodowhatyou'resupposedtodo.Orbecauseyoudon'thaveenoughfocus,orbecauseofsomeintrinsicdeficit.No,it'sjustthecellsinyourbodyrespondingtowhat'sinthem.Katie:Yeah,exactly.Andsoalotofthepeoplelistening,Iwouldsayprobablyover90%ofthepeoplelisteningaremoms,andIknowalotoftimesmomskindofhaveanegativereactiontotheideaofbiohackingwhichislargelywhatyoudo,butbecauseitjust...Ithinkpartiallyitsoundsverymasculinebutalsolikethere'salotof...itsoundscomplicated,Ithink.AndsoI'vealwayssaidthis,butIwouldlovetohearyourthoughts,thatIthinkactuallymomsofallpeoplearetheonesthatshouldbebiohackingbecausewehavetheabilitytodirectlyimpactthenextgenerationandtogivethembetterhealth.Andalsoifweimproveourselves,wecanimproveourfamilies.ButI'dlovetohearyourtakeonthat,andalsoasmoms,whataresomeofthemostimportantthingswecandowithourfamiliestostart,likerightnow,whataresomeofthetopstepsyouwouldgive?Dave:Here'sthedealwhenyoudothesebiohacking,justthedefinitionbiohackingisyouchangetheenvironmentaroundyouandinsideofyousothatyouhavefullcontrolofyourownbiology,that'sallitis.Andwhenyoudothisasakidevenforaveryyoungchild,heckeveninthewomb,yousetuptheenvironmentproperly,itremovessomuchstress,anditmakesgrowingandthrivingeasier.Soitisn'tthisbigcomplexthing.Therearesomelowhangingfruitthatyoucandothatwillradicallyimproveyourkids'behavior,andimprovehowtheyfeel.Andoneofthethingsyoucandoistrycuttingoutgrainsfromyourkids'diet.Idon'tmeanjustgluten,Imeanwholegrainsexceptforprobablywhitericewhichmostpeopletoleratereallywell,doitforacoupleweeks.Andwhileyou'reatitatthesametimecutoutfriedstuff,becauseyourkidsareworkingreallyhardtomakenewcellmembranes,thecellmembranesaremadeoutoftinydropletsoffat.AnditturnsouteatingFrenchfriesorchickennuggetsoranythingfriedcausesmoreinflammationanddamagearoundthosecellmembranesthansmokingacigarette.Youget24hoursofdamagefromamealoffriedstuffthanyougetfourhoursofdamagefromacigarette.Youwouldn'ttellyourkidstosmoke.Don'tfeedthemfriedstuff.Andyoudothat,youcutoutthegrainsyoumayfindthatthekidsrashesandskinstuffgoesaway,buttheirsleepqualitywillimprove,buttheirbehaviorandtheirpersonalitycanchange.Andifyoufeedthekidssomethingand20minutesorhalfhourlaterthey'reallovertheplace,therewassomethingintherethatdidn'tworkfortheirbiology.Thesimplestthingyoucandothereistrytheactivatedcharcoal,andactivatedcharcoalcanbeconstipating.Bulletproofmakesanactivatedcharcoalthathasaveryfineparticlesize.Andwhat'sreallyfascinatingthereiswhenyouseethatmarkedchangeinyourkids'behaviorafterameal,that'sjustasimplethingtodo.Yougivethemonelittlecapsuleofitandifyourkidsdon'tlike,ortheycan'ttakecapsules,youcantakealittlelikeahalfateaspoonofrawhoneyandmixitwithcharcoallikealittlesweettastingpalateandthey'lldrinkthat.Lookinthemirrorandhaveblackteethandthinkit'sfunny.


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Andthatcanhaveareallybigeffectonhowtheyfeel,andthenthey'rejustbacktobeingtheirsmoothnormal.LikeI'mgonnaplaywithmyLego's,I'mgonnagodowhatI'mgonnado,andthey'rebacktotheirthing.Kidsarewiredtobekindandniceandcooperativeandselfish,sometimesbecausethey'restilllearningtheiregosandthingslikethat.Soifyoucanremoveallofthesethingsthatcausehugeswingsintheiremotionsthatcomefromoutsideofthem,itallowsthemtojustknowthemselvesbetterbutitalsomakesyourlifeasamomwayeasier.TheotherthingisthisbrainoctaneoilthatIgivetomykidsinBulletproofcoffee.Andifyou'reoffended,okay,kidsmetabolizecaffeinetwiceasfastasadults.We'retalkingaboutalittleespressocupwithanounceortwoofthis,isbecauseIwantthemtogettheoilinthemorning.AndbecauseitallowthemtodosomethinglikewhatDaddydoes.I'mnottalkingaboutdrinkingalargecupofcoffeethatwouldn'tbesomethingIrecommendforanyoneatthatbodyweight.Andthingslikegettingenoughoil,enoughundamagedoil,bindingtoxinswithcharcoal.Andhere'stheotherthingthatwilljustchangeyourlifeasamomthatisclassicalbiohackingischangingthisenvironmentaroundyou.IfyouhaveLEDorfluorescentlightsinyourbathroom,stop.Don'tturnthoseon.Don'tallowyourkidstogetuptogotothebathroomandturnonthelights.Getthemarednightlightinthebathroom,notblue,notgreen.Andinmyhouse,wehavedimmerswitches,andthekidshavealittleredlightintheroomthattheycanturnoniftheyneedtohavealightatnightnotawhitelight.Evenafewsecondsofwhitelightatnighttellsthemitochondriathatcontrolthetimingsysteminthebodytostopmakingmelatonin,whichmeansyourkidswon'tsleepwelltherestofthenight.Soifthey'rerunningaroundbrushingtheirteethgettingreadyforbed,andyourkitchensbrightlylit,you'reactuallytakingawaysleepqualityandkidsusuallydon'tgetenoughsleep.Andifyoudothatyoucanradicallychangethings.Insidethekids'room,itneedstobepitchblack.Getblackoutcurtainssothatthestreetlightsdon'tcomein.Andifthere'sanyLEDinthekids'bedroom,puttapeoverit,orthecompanythatIstartedthatmakesthetruedarkglasses,theonesthatfilteroutthesekindsoflights.Youcouldhavethekidswearthatbeforebedthat'swhatmykidsdotheylooklikelittleSpidermeninglasses.Andwhatthatdoesisittellsthecellsintheeyesthatcommunicatewiththepartofyourbrainthattellsyouwhetherit'snighttime,ittellsthemit'snighttime,sotheybereadyforsleep.AndtheymakelittlestickerscalledtruedarkdotsthatyoucanputovertheLEDs,soyoucanseeifsomethingisturnedonornot.Butthelightspectrumthatcomesoutisn'tthekindthatsignalstoyourkids'bodythatit'sdaytimeeventhoughthey'resupposedtobesleeping.Sothisislittlesignalsthatcomeinthatareentirelynotaconscioussignalthatarechangingyourkidssleepandchangingtheirbehavior.Sothereyougo,eatmoregoodundamagedfat,don'teatwholegrainswiththetoxinsthattheycontainasnaturaldefensesystemsmadebythegrains.Don'teatfatfriedstuff,reducebrightlightexposureintheevening,andgetmoreofthegoodfatsinthediet.Andyou'llfindthatyourkidsgrowuptobehealthyandstrongerwithbettercells.AndabonussuggestiontherewouldbesomethingthatIknowyou'reahugefanof,it'sbonebroth.Inordertomakebones,andtomakeskinandtomakeorgansyoumusthaveacollageninyourbody.OurgrandparentsateJell-Owhichisactuallykindofdisgustingthewaytheymakeit.Butatleasttheygotcollagenortheywouldboilchickenbonesafteryouateachicken,ortheywouldmakethesestocksoutofthingsthatwedon'tgetanymore.


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SoyoucanstartmakingbonebroththewaywedoathomeandIalsomakeaBulletproofgrassfedcollagenandthisisthesameproteinthat'sfoundinbonebroth.Butsometimesfrankly,wedon'thavetimeorenergytomakebonebroth.SoIputcollageninfood.Wemakemashedcauliflower,ormashedsweetpotatoes.Ithrowacouplespoonsofthatinandnowmykidsaregettingthiscollagenbuildingblockthat'sreallyimportantforthemtogrowstrongandhealthy.AndIputitinmyBulletproofcoffeethatIsharewiththemsometimesaswell.Sogettingalittleextracollagenthatcanhelpkidsgrowuptobestrongerandhavestraightbones,andjusthealthyteeth,andjusttoletthebodybuilditselfthewayit'ssupposedto.Katie:Yeah,Iloveit.Ithinkthoseareallamazingtips,andanybodylisteningifyou'redrivingornot,whereyoucan'twriteitdown,allthoselinkswillbeintheshownotesatwellnessmama.fm,soyoudon'thavetorememberthem.AndDave,youhavesomegreatpostsonthosetopicsaswell.Somakesurewelinktothosetoo.IwoulddefinitelyencouragepeopletocheckoutyourpodcastbecauseI'malistenerandalso"Headstrong"isawesome,thoselinkswillbethereaswell.Butwhereelsecanpeoplefindyouonline?Dave:Well,youcangotoInstagram.I'mdave.asprey,"BulletproofRadio"iseasytofind,yougotobulletproof.com/itunes,it'llgiveyouthelinkforit.Andthenbulletproof.comhasahugeamountofcontent,alotofitisinalignmentwiththethingsyouwriteaboutKatie.Andyoudosuchafantasticjobonyourresearch,Iactuallyreadyourblog.AndIdon'treadalotofblogsthesedaysbecauseI'msuperbusy,andI'musuallyreadingscientificreferencesonPubMedandthingslikethat.ButIthinkyoudoagreatjoboffilteringthroughalotofthebadinfooutthere,andthencitingyoursources.SoIreallyrespectyourworkaswell,andIwouldsaypeopleshouldkeeplisteningtoyou,andkeepreadingyourblogaswell.Katie:Thankyousomuch.Thatmeansalot,andthankyouforyourtime.IknowthatyouareincrediblybusyandI'msohonoredthatyouwouldtakethetimetobehereandtotalktoustoday,sothankyou.Dave:Thanks,Katie,Ilookforwardtoseeingyouagaininperson.Katie:Awesome,Ilookforwardtoitaswell.Andthanks,toallofyouforlistening,andIwillseeyounexttimeonTheHealthyMomsPodcast.

Ifyou'reenjoyingtheseinterviews,wouldyoupleasetaketwominutestoleavearatingorreviewoniTunesforme?Doingthishelpsmorepeopletofindthepodcast,whichmeansevenmoremomsandfamiliescouldbenefitfromtheinformation.Ireallyappreciateyourtime,andthanksasalwaysforlistening.

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