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4th Annual Jet Engine Symposium, October 28, 2004 – Technion, HaifaUNCLASSIFIED
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An Original Means to Troubleshoot An Original Means to Troubleshoot High High EExhaust xhaust GGas as TTemperature (emperature (EGTEGT))
on All Types of Jet Engineson All Types of Jet Engines
by Israel Djian Israel Aircraft Industries
by Israel Djian Israel Aircraft Industries
4th Annual Jet Engine Symposium, Technion
4th Annual Jet Engine Symposium, Technion
4th Annual Jet Engine Symposium, October 28, 2004 – Technion, HaifaUNCLASSIFIED
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Those Who Tearfully Sow, Those Who Tearfully Sow, Will Reap In Glad SongWill Reap In Glad Song
(Psalms 126:5)
CeuxCeux Qui Qui OntOnt SemSeméé DansDans Les Les LarmesLarmes,,PuissentPuissent--IlsIls RRéécoltercolter DansDans La JoieLa Joie
(Psaumes 126:5)
4th Annual Jet Engine Symposium, Technion
4th Annual Jet Engine Symposium, Technion
ב רינה יקצרו , הזרע ים ב ד מ ע ה)ה: תהלי ם קכו(
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AgendaAgenda
Significance of EGT : Why EGT is so Important in the Gas Turbine Engine IndustryEGT and Engine Maintenance CostsAnalysis of the Mechanisms that Rule EGTIAI Original Approach to Troubleshoot EGT Problems (applicable to all Jet Engines)Summary
Significance of EGT : Why EGT is so Important in the Gas Turbine Engine IndustryEGT and Engine Maintenance CostsAnalysis of the Mechanisms that Rule EGTIAI Original Approach to Troubleshoot EGT Problems (applicable to all Jet Engines)Summary
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Significance of EGTSignificance of EGT
Definition : EGT = Exhaust Gas Temperature
What EGT is significant of ?EGT is a measure of the engine’s efficiency in producing its design level of thrustThe higher EGT is
Definition : EGT = Exhaust Gas Temperature
What EGT is significant of ?EGT is a measure of the engine’s efficiency in producing its design level of thrustThe higher EGT is the more wear and deterioration affects the engine
the more wear and deterioration affects the engine
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At engine certification, any engine is allocatedan EGT operating absolute limit or EGT Red LineAt engine certification, any engine is allocated
an EGT operating absolute limit or EGT Red Line
Significance of EGTSignificance of EGT
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Definition :EGT Margin = EGT Red Line – EGT Gage
Definition :EGT Margin = EGT Red Line – EGT Gage
Significance of EGTSignificance of EGT
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What EGT is significant of ? (cont.)What EGT is significant of ? (cont.)
The EGT Red Line is representative of Tt5(Temperature @ High Pressure Turbine Inlet) and is designed to preserve the hot section (1st stage turbine blades) integrityTt5 is not measurable in an industrial environmentEngine Thrust is a Linear Function of Tt5
The EGT Red Line is representative of Tt5(Temperature @ High Pressure Turbine Inlet) and is designed to preserve the hot section (1st stage turbine blades) integrityTt5 is not measurable in an industrial environmentEngine Thrust is a Linear Function of Tt5
Significance of EGTSignificance of EGT
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109 °C15 °C 493 °CT5
1343 °C 566 °C
EGTJT9D
843 °C
Significance of EGTSignificance of EGT
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Tt5Tt5
Significance of EGTSignificance of EGT
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Pratt & Whitney JT9D EnginePratt & Whitney JT9D Engine
1st Flight of B747 with JT9D-3A(JFK-London) with PanAm1st Flight of B747 with JT9D-3A(JFK-London) with PanAm ( ל "ז )( ל "ז )
January 21, 1970…January 21, 1970…
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January 21, 1970...January 21, 1970...
Toulouse, כיתה ב'Toulouse, כיתה ב'
I was 7½ Years Old !I was 7½ Years Old !
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Impact of EGT Margin on Jet Engine Maintenance Costs
Impact of EGT Margin on Jet Engine Maintenance Costs
After Shop Visit the EGT margin is positive (+ XX °C )As a normal process, the EGT margin slowly decreases with the engine operation, as normalwear and tear of the internal parts takes placeAt zero EGT margin, the engine must be removedfor maintenance and refurbishmentFor JT9D-7Q, typically 20 °C EGT margin allows8,000 flight hours/maintenance cost $ 2.4 M approx.
After Shop Visit the EGT margin is positive (+ XX °C )As a normal process, the EGT margin slowly decreases with the engine operation, as normalwear and tear of the internal parts takes placeAt zero EGT margin, the engine must be removedfor maintenance and refurbishmentFor JT9D-7Q, typically 20 °C EGT margin allows8,000 flight hours/maintenance cost $ 2.4 M approx.
Therefore,each 1 °C EGT Margin ~ 120 k$ Approx.Therefore,each 1 °C EGT Margin ~ 120 k$ Approx.
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As a normal process, as the engine deterioratesdue to normal wear and tear, on Rotating Parts,
Primarily, the engine Fuel Consumption (Wf) increases, then,
As a normal process, as the engine deterioratesdue to normal wear and tear, on Rotating Parts,
Primarily, the engine Fuel Consumption (Wf) increases, then,
Analysis of the Mechanisms that Rule EGT
Analysis of the Mechanisms that Rule EGT
Goal : Establish a thermodynamic Relationship that connects EGT and the Fuel ConsumptionGoal : Establish a thermodynamic Relationship that connects EGT and the Fuel Consumption
Consequently, the EGT increases (and EGT margin accordingly decreases).
However, there is No Max. Fuel Consumption Limitation IAW Aviation Regulations (FAA, DGAC…)
Consequently, the EGT increases (and EGT margin accordingly decreases).
However, there is No Max. Fuel Consumption Limitation IAW Aviation Regulations (FAA, DGAC…)
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Concept of EGT Distortion : due to the Inherent different means of measuring Wf versus EGT :Concept of EGT Distortion : due to the Inherent different means of measuring Wf versus EGT :
Wf measurement is an easy and accurate TaskThe EGT probes sample the Gas Temperature atdiscrete locations only and do not perform athorough integration of the actual Gas TemperatureOne may encounter engine with low Wf and high EGT or high Wf and low EGT
Wf measurement is an easy and accurate TaskThe EGT probes sample the Gas Temperature atdiscrete locations only and do not perform athorough integration of the actual Gas TemperatureOne may encounter engine with low Wf and high EGT or high Wf and low EGT
Analysis of the Mechanisms that Rule EGT
Analysis of the Mechanisms that Rule EGT
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Analysis :Analysis :If EGT/Wf follows the thermodynamic Relationship,thenIf EGT/Wf follows the thermodynamic Relationship,then
Analysis of the Mechanisms that Rule EGT
Analysis of the Mechanisms that Rule EGT
The Rotating Modules are the Root Cause for high EGTThe Rotating Modules are the Root Cause for high EGT
If EGT/Wf does NOT follow the thermodynamic Relationship, thenIf EGT/Wf does NOT follow the thermodynamic Relationship, then
The Static Parts (Diffuser, Burner, NGVs) of the Hot Section are the Root Cause for high EGT
The Static Parts (Diffuser, Burner, NGVs) of the Hot Section are the Root Cause for high EGT
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IAI Approach to TroubleshootHigh EGT Engines
IAI Approach to TroubleshootHigh EGT Engines
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Per-Module Hardware Review Per-Module Hardware Review
EGT
Wf
1 % Loss HPT Efficiency = + 0.91 % Fuel Flow = X
1 % Loss HPT Efficiency = + 14.33 Deg F EGT = Y
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Modular Influence Coefficients
-10
-8
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8
10
-1 -0.8 -0.6 -0.4 -0.2 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1
Delta Fuel Flow Relative to Baseline (%)
Delta
EG
T R
ela
tive to B
ase
line (
Deg C
)HPT Efficiency Graphic Representation
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Modular Influence Coefficients
-10
-8
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8
10
-1 -0.8 -0.6 -0.4 -0.2 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1
Delta Fuel Flow Relative to Baseline (%)
Delta
EG
T R
ela
tive to B
ase
line (
Deg C
)
0.91 %
7.96 Deg C
1 % Loss of HPT Efficiency
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Modular Influence Coefficients
-10
-8
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8
10
-1 -0.8 -0.6 -0.4 -0.2 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1
Delta Fuel Flow Relative to Baseline (%)
Delta
EG
T R
ela
tive to B
ase
line (
Deg C
)
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Modular Influence Coefficients
-80
-70
-60
-50
-40
-30
-20
-10
0
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
80
-6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
Delta Fuel Flow Relative to Baseline (%)
Delta
EG
T R
ela
tive to B
ase
line (
Deg C
)
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Modular Influence Coefficients
-80
-70
-60
-50
-40
-30
-20
-10
0
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
80
-6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
Delta Fuel Flow Relative to Baseline (%)
Delta
EG
T R
ela
tive to B
ase
line (
Deg C
)
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Modular Influence Coefficients
-80
-70
-60
-50
-40
-30
-20
-10
0
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
80
-6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
Delta Fuel Flow Relative to Baseline (%)
Delta
EG
T R
ela
tive to B
ase
line (
Deg C
) 11 Deg C EGT for 1 % Wf Slope11 Deg C EGT for 1 % Wf Slope
For JT9DFor JT9D
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Relationship Between EGT and Wf
-80
-60
-40
-20
0
20
40
60
80
- 6 - 4 - 2 0 2 4 6
Delta Fuel Flow Relative to Baseline (%)
De
lta
EG
T R
ela
tive
to
Ba
selin
e (
De
g C
)
FuelFuel
EGTEGT
After Shop VisitAfter Shop Visit
After a Few k-Flight HoursAfter a Few k-Flight Hours
∆EGT∆EGT
∆Wf∆Wf
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Impact of EGT Margin on Jet Engine Maintenance Costs
Impact of EGT Margin on Jet Engine Maintenance CostsRelationship Between EGT and Wf
-80
-60
-40
-20
0
20
40
60
80
- 6 - 4 - 2 0 2 4 6
Delta Fuel Flow Relative to Baseline (%)
De
lta
EG
T R
ela
tive
to B
ase
lin
e (
De
g C
)
FuelFuel
EGTEGT
After Shop VisitAfter Shop Visit
After a Few k-Flight HoursAfter a Few k-Flight Hours
∆Wf∆Wf
Actual ∆EGTActual ∆EGT
Theoretical ∆EGT
Theoretical ∆EGT
EGTDistortio
n
EGTEGTDistortioDistortio
nn
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JT9D EGT Margin Improvement
Relationship Between EGT and Wf
-80
-60
-40
-20
0
20
40
60
80
- 6 - 4 - 2 0 2 4 6
Delta Fuel Flow Relative to Baseline (%)
De
lta
EG
T R
ela
tive
to
Ba
selin
e (
De
g C
)
Rotating Modules Good
Efficiency - Good EGT Profile
Rotating Modules Poor
Efficiency - Good EGT Profile
Rotating ModulesGood Efficiency
-Very Good
EGT Profile
Rotating Modules Good Efficiency
-Adverse EGT
Profile
Rotating Modules Poor Efficiency
-Good EGT Profile
Rotating Modules Poor Efficiency
-Adverse EGT
Profile
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Summary
The Two Key-Questions Any PerformanceEngineer Has to ask Himself for aTest Cell Rejected Engine for Low EGT Margin Engine :
The Two Key-Questions Any PerformanceEngineer Has to ask Himself for aTest Cell Rejected Engine for Low EGT Margin Engine :
∆Wf
∆EGT/∆Wf
Is the Engine Fuel Flow High ?Is the Engine Fuel Flow High ?
Is the Ratio EGT/Fuel Flow Respected ?Is the Ratio EGT/Fuel Flow Respected ?
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Summary
Test Cell Engine
EGT
Test Cell Engine WF
Engine EPR or
N1
EGT Baseline
WfBaseline
∆EGT
∆Wf
Is the Ratio∆EGT/ ∆Wf
of the EngineAcceptable ?
Influence Coefficients
Table
Obtain From OEMObtain From OEM
Theoretical ∆EGT/ ∆Wf
Ratio
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Summary
Is the Engine FuelConsumption
∆Wf Acceptable ?
Do Not Address the
RotatingModules
Address the RotatingModules
Yes
No
∆Wf
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Summary
Is the Ratio∆EGT/ ∆Wf
of the EngineAcceptable ?
Do NotAddress the Burner, Fuel Nozzles, EGT Probes…etc...
Yes
No
Address the Burner, Fuel Nozzles, EGT Probes…etc...
∆EGT/∆Wf
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Good Luck to You All !Good Luck to You All !
謝謝!謝謝!
Last SlideLast Slide(Almost)(Almost)
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Last SlideLast Slide
Song of the StepsSong of the Steps (Degrees)(Degrees)
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謝謝!謝謝!再再
Last SlideLast Slide
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Smart QuizSmart Quiz
??On a Jet Engine, there are Two Types ofRotating Devices :
Compressors
Turbines
On a Jet Engine, there are Two Types ofRotating Devices :
Compressors
Turbines
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CompressorCompressor
Compresseur
Compresseur
CompressoreCompressore
КОМПРЕ
СОР
КОМПРЕ
СОР
ΚωµπρεσσωρΚωµπρεσσωρ
Compressors : compress the airCompressors : compress the air
و مکبرس
ورو مک
برسور
דח סמדח סמ
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What about the Turbines : …?
Why the Term ‘Turbine’ does not denote its function (i.e. Gas Expansion in order to Convert its Potential Energy into Mechanical Energy ) ?
What about the Turbines : …?
Why the Term ‘Turbine’ does not denote its function (i.e. Gas Expansion in order to Convert its Potential Energy into Mechanical Energy ) ?
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TurbineTurbine
TurbinaTurbina
TУРБЙНАTУРБЙНА
TωρµπιναTωρµπινα ت ورب ي نا ت ورب ي نا
בינהטור
בינהטור
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??
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Why the Term ‘Turbine’ does not Refer to its Function ?Why the Term ‘Turbine’ does not Refer to its Function ?
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Turbine comes from Latin :
‘Turba’ = Wheel
The 1st Thermodynamic Machines Only Rotating Hardware was Exclusively Gas (Steam) Expansion Related : THE Wheelor THE Turbine.
Turbine comes from Latin :
‘Turba’ = Wheel
The 1st Thermodynamic Machines Only Rotating Hardware was Exclusively Gas (Steam) Expansion Related : THE Wheelor THE Turbine.
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By Extension, the Expansion Hardwareof a Jet Engine was also Called Turbine.
But, there was a need to call the OTHERRotating Hardware that was Compressingthe Air.
By Extension, the Expansion Hardwareof a Jet Engine was also Called Turbine.
But, there was a need to call the OTHERRotating Hardware that was Compressingthe Air.
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So, in fact, if Compressors are a Second Type of Wheels, they are…. So, in fact, if Compressors are a Second Type of Wheels, they are….
….Turbines ?!?!….Turbines ?!?!
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Yes !!!Yes !!!
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So : Turbine A for the Compression, Turbine B for the Expansion ?
Doesn’t sound good !...Confusing…
The 1st ‘Historically’ Rotating Hardware(i.e. the Expansion one) Kept the Termof ‘The Wheel’ = Turbine
The 2nd One got a Different Name thatalludes to its Function : Compressor
So : Turbine A for the Compression, Turbine B for the Expansion ?
Doesn’t sound good !...Confusing…
The 1st ‘Historically’ Rotating Hardware(i.e. the Expansion one) Kept the Termof ‘The Wheel’ = Turbine
The 2nd One got a Different Name thatalludes to its Function : Compressor