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    By Jason Stipp and Christine Benz | 02-24-2014 11:00 AM

    10 Missteps With Tax-Sheltered AccountsIRAs, 401(k)s, and Roth accounts are key components of your toolkit,

    so make sure you get the most out of them.

    Jason Stipp:I'm Jason Stipp for

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    doing partial conversions, which are completely allowable. The beauty of a partial

    conversion is that you can convert just enough so that you don't push yourself into

    a higher income-tax bracket for the year in which you do the conversion.

    Work with an accountant on this. If you have a lot of IRA assets that you want toconvert, it can be a great strategy to do it piecemeal over a period of many years.

    Also bear in mind that you do have an escape hatch. You can do a

    re-characterization--essentially a do-over--if you do a conversion and the timing in

    hindsight turns out not to have been right.

    Stipp:The next mistake that some investors might make, or maybe a lot of

    investors, is waiting until the last minute to fund an IRA account for the prior taxyear. Why might you not want to wait until early April 2014 to do your 2013

    contribution to an IRA account?

    Benz:Incidentally, that's what Vanguard has found. When it looked at when

    people have contributed, it found that a lot of people rush the doors right before

    that tax-filing deadline.

    Foregone compounding is really the main reason that you don't want to do that.

    Think back to the beginning of 2013; if you had only made that contribution at the

    outset of 2013 instead of waiting until now to make it, you would have had a

    year's worth of great appreciation. This is particularly important for younger folks

    with longer time horizons. That benefit of compounding when multiplied over many

    years can really add up.

    Stipp: Turning to 401(k) plans: Of course a big mistake is not at least contributing

    enough to get your employer match, but whenyou contribute can also affect the

    kind of match that you get, and people can miss out on a match in certain

    situations.

    Benz:That's right. This is kind of a high-class problem. It's something that higher-

    income people sometimes run into, where they max out their 401(k) plans veryearly in the year. What happens is that they haven't taken full advantage of

    employer matching contributions, which are usually spaced out on a per-pay-period

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    basis. So you want to be careful: If you've earned a bonus and you're contributing

    at a very high level, you could actually not benefit from your full employer

    matching contributions.

    Some plans have instituted a provision that actually will give employees fullmatching if they have maxed out their contributions, even if they've done so in the

    first part of the year. But check with your plan. If your plan does not have such a

    provision, you want to be careful to space out your contributions pretty evenly.

    Stipp:Mistake number six involves not considering how a possible Roth 401(k)

    option could be beneficial for you when you do reach retirement.

    Benz:For a lot of people, splitting the difference between traditional 401(k)

    contributions and Roth 401(k) contributions can be the way to go, because really

    what you have to decide when you choose which type of contribution to make is

    what sort of tax bracket you will be in during retirement versus where you are

    now. A lot of people say, I have no idea--especially younger earners. For them,

    splitting between the two account types, which is usually an allowable option, is

    the way to go.

    Stipp:Another mistake involves a different kind of tax-sheltered account, the HSA

    or the health savings account. Some investors may say, I'm not going to use the

    HAS; it's not for me. But there could be benefits for some folks here.

    Benz:Health savings accounts are used in conjunction with high-deductible

    health-care plans. A lot of people might say, I don't want to pay the deductibles out

    of pocket, or it's just more complicated than investing in the traditional health-care

    plan, and that's all true.

    But particularly people who are healthy and wealthy--so, who are already maxing

    out their other tax-sheltered vehicles and are in pretty good health, and probably

    won't have a lot of out-of-pocket health-care costs--for them, HSA can be a really

    nice tool in their toolkit.

    In particular, it has three tax-saving benefits. You make pretax contributions, you

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    enjoy tax-free compounding on the money, and then assuming that the

    withdrawals are for qualified health-care expenses, that money is tax-free, too. So

    it's one of the only triple-tax-benefited accounts in the whole tax code.

    Stipp:Mistake number eight also involves 401(k) plans, and that's automaticallyrolling over the 401(k) to an IRA when you retire or when you switch jobs. There

    are a lot of good reasons to do that, but there are also some reasons to keep

    money in the 401(k) plan in certain circumstances.

    Benz: I often say the rollover is the best answer in part because you can get away

    from that extra layer of fees that accompanies a 401(k) plan and isn't there with

    an IRA. But if you are in one of a couple of different categories, you want to steerclear of the rollover and instead stay put in the 401(k).

    The first is if a lot of your 401(k) assets are in company stock: Check with an

    accountant on this, but oftentimes it will be better to leave that money in the

    401(k), because you'll be able to enjoy capital gains treatment on the money when

    you begin withdrawing it in retirement.

    The other category is for people who are between age 55 and 59 1/2 and they

    want to begin withdrawing money from the 401(k) during that time period. They

    may be able to begin withdrawing from the 401(k) before age 59 1/2; they can't

    do that from an IRA without incurring a 10% penalty.

    Stipp:A couple of portfolio planning mistakes: The first one is not thinking about

    your asset location, or what types of investments you put into these accounts.

    Benz:You want to keep in mind that you do enjoy tax-free or tax-deferred

    compounding on your money. In general, if you have any sort of investment types

    that are kicking off a lot of ordinary income, you want to make sure that you're

    housing them within tax-sheltered accounts. You can hold other types of

    assets--like index funds, for example, or municipal bond funds--in your taxable

    accounts because they will tend to be very tax-friendly on a year-to-year basis.

    So keep in mind that concept of asset location when you think about which types of

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    investments to place where.

    Stipp:But sometimes that asset location can change, especially as you move into

    retirement?

    Benz: That's right. So, in particular, you'd want to think about getting bonds

    relocated into your taxable accounts because those are typically the first accounts

    you'd want to deplete in retirement.

    Stipp:So, there can be some twisting that happens as you get into retirement.

    Benz:Exactly.

    Stipp:The last mistake is not using taxable accounts. Even if you have

    tax-deferred accounts, there are some reasons that you might want to have

    taxable accounts, especially when you get into retirement?

    Benz:That's right. One of the key reasons is that for some people--especially,

    again, people who are in the higher-income bands--putting the full contribution

    into the IRA and 401(k) just may not be enough given your income demands in

    retirement. You will need to use taxable vehicles as well.

    The other key reason to consider it is that, when you are actually retired and

    you're beginning to withdraw those assets, you can really be quite strategic about

    where you go for cash--which of your account types you'd tap for cash. And those

    taxable vehicles, especially if you are paying a lot of attention to what types of

    assets you're putting there, can be pretty tax-friendly on a year-to-year basis.

    If you find yourselves in a very high-tax year and need to pull some money out,

    you may be able to enjoy pretty low capital-gains treatment on the money that's

    coming out of those taxable accounts. So, definitely tax diversification is a goal for

    people who are getting close to retirement.

    Stipp:Christine, the tax-sheltered account is one of the most important tools in

    investors' toolkits. Thanks for helping us use those better today.

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    Benz:Thank you, Jason.

    Stipp:For Morningstar, I'm Jason Stipp. Thanks for watching.

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    sandsok

    Feb 27 2014, 7:03 PM

    I don't think that we are in a minority, but we don't make much

    money for the companies and therefore we are NOT a priority. I

    have watched for years and have yet to see any important

    discussions on people who are already retired with the same assetsthat "wazone" talks about.

    chuck49

    Feb 27 2014, 3:38 PM

    Has anyone noticed how hyper this discussion was? It made me

    nervous just watching it. Christine is usually a more relaxed

    speaker, so perhaps this video was sped up to make info more

    palatable to the gamer generation?

    williamr

    Feb 25 2014, 3:11 PM

    Unless you are certain your retirement tax rate will be lower,

    consider saving funds in all three basic type of accounts: taxable,

    tax-deferred (traditional 401K/IRA), and tax-free (Roth 401K/IRA).

    We have all three (80% in traditional IRA today), are over 70.5, but

    made the mistake of draining the taxable account first (paid almost

    no tax for a few years). We now only live off of the traditional IRA

    (SS is not enough to pay the taxes on the withdrawals). It would

    have been much smarter to pay more tax earlier by withdrawing

    some traditional IRA funds immediately and slowing the withdrawal

    rate of funds in the taxable account to keep us in a lower tax

    bracket for a longer period of time. We keep the Roth IRA

    untouched as a safety net for medical, long-term health care,

    emergencies, or estate taxes.

    Flipper

    Feb 25 2014, 2:40 PM

    @content and wazone:

    You mean like this one?

    http://news.morningstar.com/articlenet/article.aspx?id=636472

    wazone

    Feb 25 2014, 2:30 PM

    I agree with "content"--OK on the 70.5 as described--but what if you

    are 80.5 like me, when will we hear that discussion ?

    Bruce47

    Feb 25 2014, 12:56 PM

    For me, the first question to ask regarding a 401(k) to IRA

    conversion is whether the company will allow beneficiaries to

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    continue new ownership in their respective pieces of a 401(k)

    account when the retiree dies. If not, a very large and unavoidable

    tax bill may come due! If so, the heirs can continue the tax deferred

    status and make their own withdrawal and conversion decisions.

    content

    Feb 25 2014, 12:43 PM

    When will you discuss tax savings issues for couples over 70.5, with

    no earned income, just pension, SS, Dividends and CG? These folks

    cannot put new money in IRAs, Roths, 401Ks, HSAs, etc. Or are we

    in such a minority that it is not a priority on your list?

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