1 Samuel 19_24 Saul Gets Naked Before the Lord!

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1 Samuel 19:24 Saul gets naked before the Lord!

I was puzzled about David getting naked but Gill puts it into perspective.

1 Samuel 19:24And he stripped off his clothes also,.... Not all his clothes, but his upper garments, asmen in such circumstances used to do, as the prophets sometimes did, and as it seemshis messengers had done; according to Jarchi, R. Isaiah, and others (n), he strippedhimself of his royal robes, and put on the habit of the scholars, the disciples, and sonsof the prophets:

and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, as the messengers had done, singing suchlike songs, or foretelling such like things as they did; he and they speaking not ofthemselves, but as they were moved by the Holy Spirit of prophecy; for such gifts havesometimes been bestowed on men that were destitute of the grace of God, as Balaam,Caiaphas, and others:

and lay down: or "fell down" (o), as persons in an ecstasy or trance: and lay

naked all that day, and all that night; not entirely naked, both without his uppergarment or royal robes, or else his armour; so an unarmed man is said to be naked,though otherwise he has his clothes on: thus Gelon having conquered the Carthaginians,and made himself master of all Sicily, went into the forum "naked" (i.e. unarmed), anddeclared he would restore the government to the citizens, wherefore a naked statue forhim was erected in the temple of Juno (p); so Quinctius Cincinnatus was foundploughing naked (q), who cannot be supposed to be without any clothes on him. Jarchi,from Menachem, reports, that he had heard from an Arabian, that the word the Targummakes use of for "naked", signifies, in the Arabic language, one that is furious or mad, as

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persons in an ecstasy, or under a prophetic spirit, sometimes seemed to be; now Saulwas kept and held in such circumstances a whole day and night, that David might havean opportunity of making his escape, and getting at such a distance from him that hecould not overtake him:

wherefore they say, is Saul also among the prophets? this became a common saying, aproverbial expression, at least was now revived and observed with admiration; thatSaul, who had behaved himself in so ill a manner, as an enemy to so good a man, shouldbe found among the prophets of the Lord, and prophesying as they did.

(n) Vid. Hieron. Trad. Heb. in lib. Reg. fol. 76. G. (o) "et cecidit", V. L. Pagninus,Montanus, "et corruit", Vatablus. (p) Aelian. Var. Hist. l. 6. c. 11. (q) Aurel. Victor. deVir. Illustr. c. 20.

I just need to do a bit of a word study to back him up.

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The "covering" that Saul removed (H899) also has the double meaning of a covering inthe sense of treachery. This is different from the garments (H4085) that Jonathanexchanged with David in the previous chapter - but then there was no treacherybetween Jonathan and David.

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There is also an underlying theme (thread?) in 1 Samuel of the removal of Saul's kingshipbeing reflected in the "removal" of his garments in various places (e.g., when Davidremoves a portion -- treacherously to use the terminology you indicate above -- at thecave while Saul relieves himself). David, OTOH, gathers clothing gradually. Near thebeginning of the David narrative, Saul offers to give him his armor, but David refuses. Hewill become king through the Lord's means.

I actually wrote a seminary paper on this passage and probably have that somewhere inelectronic form. Contact me via PM with your email address and I can send it to you.

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