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CLERK OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS111 NW 1 Street, Commission Conference Room
Wednesday, May 27, 2015 @ 10:30 a.m.
VALUE ADJUSTMENT BOARDINTERGOVERNMENTAL SERVICES DIVISION
BOARD MEMBERS(Present)
Commissioner Juan Zapata, ChairmanCommissioner Jose "Pepe" Diaz
School Board Member Raquel RegaladoMr. Anibal Duarte-Viera
Hani Jardack
VAB ATTORNEY
Manuel A. Blanco, Esq.
COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
Jorge Martinez-EsteveAssistant County Attorney
STAFF
Pedro Garcia, Property AppraiserLazaro Solis, Office of Property Appraiser
Robert Alfaro, VAB ManagerMark Martinez, Clerk of the Courts
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I N D E XITEM PAGE
I. Consideration and adoption of 4recommendations of Special Magistratesas the written decisions of the VABfor the remaining uncertified propertyassessments (folios) for tax year 2013.
II. Final certification of the 2013 tax 6rolls (i.e. as to all assessmentsinitially certified on an unadjustedbasis on October 16, 2013, and for whichhearings were held and SpecialMagistrates' recommendations submittedprior to May 27, 2015.
III. Action item on the procurement and 7solicitation of new software technologyprogram/system, directing staff to preparea solicitation for procurement of newsoftware technology program system.
IV. Further discussion on incentives for 31magistrates to do "Condensed Boards",including a policies and actions takenregarding said Boards.
V. Further discussion about productivity 32and actions taken in developing saidefficiency system for Magistrates, whichshall include; overtime, availability,experience in the VAB system, technologyexperience, reschedules, amount ofcomplaint letters, etc.
VI. Further discussion on potential 95codification and allowance of "SchoolBoard Audits" on expenses only andactions taken regarding legal opinionrequested by the Board.
VII. Discussion and action taken to 100establish metrics for the determinationof the VAB's cost per case.
VIII Such other business as may property 117come before the Board.
A. Approve and authorize the publicationof 2013 Tax Impact Notice.
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MR. BLANCO: All right, Mr. Chair,
Members of the Board, Mr. Property
Appraiser, Members of the Property
Appraiser's Office, Mr. Assistant County
Attorney, Deputy Clerk, we have all the
members -- well, we have four out of the
five Members of the Board here currently,
which is Chairman Commissioner Zapata, Ms.
Raquel Regalado for the School Board, Mr.
Hani Jardack and Mr. Anibal Duarte-Viera
for the citizen members.
This is the required meeting for the
of the certification of 2013 tax year tax
roll, as well as a follow-up meeting
pursuant to our last special meeting held
on April 28th.
So we have all the Board Members now.
Mr. Pepe Diaz is also here now.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Where are we?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We just
started.
MR. BLANCO: We're just starting
right now.
The first two items on the agenda --
the first two items on the agenda are
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regarding the certification of tax roll.
The remaining items are the items
requested in our prior Special Board
Meeting to be discussed and addressed at
this meeting.
This meeting is in accordance with
the government and sunshine manual under
G-1A3. And we are in compliance.
The meeting appears to be mostly for
discussion of the items listed in the
agenda provided to you.
There have also been four written
requests to speak from the public at this
Board meeting: These are from Mr. Stanley
Beck, Mr. Jack Schlosberg, Mr. Larry
Puyanic and Mr. Alejandro Aguirre. I
would suggest a time limit of two minutes
for each speaker. And you all may decide
if you want them to speak during each item
or at the end.
I'm looking at the agenda, which was
provided to you each, and I'm going to
follow it for the purposes of this
meeting.
"Consideration and adoption of
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recommendations of special magistrates as
written decisions of the Value Adjustment
Board for the remaining uncertified
property assessments (folios) for tax year
2013."
Mr. Chairman, the special magistrates
make recommendations when they hear cases.
The way the law works is that the Board,
by motion, adopts these recommendations
and they become the final written
decisions of the Board.
We will need a resolution for this
item.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So Item I,
anybody have any questions? Any comments
on it?
Anybody from the public wishes to say
anything? Anybody here who's visiting us?
Do we need a motion?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So moved, Mr.
Chairman.
CHAIRMAN ZAPATA: It's been moved.
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Second.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Seconded.
Anyone objecting to it? Show the
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item adopted without objection.
Next.
MR. BLANCO: Thank you, sir.
"II. Final certification of the 2013
tax rolls." Example as to all assessments
initially certified --
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So moved.
MR. BLANCO: -- and unadjusted.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay. Moved.
Is there a second?
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Second.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Seconded.
Anybody here accompanying us today
want to make any comments on this?
MR. ALFARO: The certificate needs to
be signed.
MR. BLANCO: He didn't let me finish,
but that's fine.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's still going
to be signed.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Do I get a
percentage of this 60 million?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: He's just kidding
for the record. For the record, he's just
kidding.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Those are big
numbers, man.
All right. So is there any question?
Any objection? Okay. Show that item
adopted without objection.
MR. BLANCO: "Item III. Action item
on procurement and solicitation of new
software technology, program/system,
directing staff to prepare solicitation
for procurement of new software technology
program system."
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Mr. Chairman, on
the item.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay,
Commissioner Diaz.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Thank you.
In the last meeting, you know, I
basically was telling the Board that it's
good to go through the IT system that we
have and everything else.
I want to be real clear, the reason
why I asked that is because of the
Firewall and how protective it is in the
County. The Clerk's Office, this is their
responsibility and dominion.
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What I want to make sure is that we
do not slow down in any way of getting
this system in, the system based on what
was said in the last meeting. I
understand now the importance of it and
why we need to do it as fast as possible.
At the time I was just looking more
of a security type situation. So whatever
needs to be done to expedite this system,
and to be an independent system the way it
needs to be, the faster, the better.
So I just want to make sure I said
that. And I know everything has to go
through the Clerk, if I'm not mistaken,
clerk of the courts. So we want to make
sure that everything is -- I don't want to
slow it down.
Now, I understand why my colleagues
had their comments. And I want to make
sure that my intent was very clear. My
intent was to make sure the Firewall
protection and to make sure that our
systems are -- because we do get hit on a
daily basis a lot. And we just heard
today that the IRS system got hacked into,
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I believe, yesterday or the day before.
So that was my intent and I want to
make sure of that for the record.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Just
really quickly.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Ms. Regalado.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We had an
opportunity to look over the other
document. Obviously we talked about it at
the last meeting, but I looked over what
the proposal was. And I understand
Commissioner Diaz's concern about the
security, but I'm going to reiterate the
same point a little differently than what
we talked at last time.
I think there's a universe of
protected documents and there is a
universe of public documents. And what I
don't want to do is pay for a platform
that is going to protect a universe of
public documents.
I understand the need to protect the
document as they go through in inputting
into the system, right, as part of what is
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the appellate process, but the documents
that are part of the evidence are public
documents. The documents that are
produced after a decision is made are
public documents.
And I think we really have an
opportunity here to put these in a cloud,
to make them accessible to everyone. I
think that it will facilitate the work of
the agents, and the average taxpayer that
doesn't really understand this process and
will be able to physically look at
documents that have been part of other
cases.
I don't -- you know, I understand
that there is -- you know, it's easier to
go with a turnkey, sort of plug-and-play
platform, but if 90% of that universe is a
PDF that's a public document, I don't
understand why we're securing it.
Why not bifurcate those two universes
and say, look, while during the appellate
process, we need to safeguard this, so
someone doesn't hack into it. And at some
point maybe, you know, change information,
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right? I mean, that's the only thing you
really could do, would be to alter some
input.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: We have social
security numbers.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And that's where
I was getting to. That was my point.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I
understand.
But then, again, look, on the social
security number front, I would tell you, I
mean, I brought to the School Board the
complete elimination of the use of social
security numbers. I would say that's
something at some point we should
consider. There is no way we can protect
them. There is no platform on the planet
that can be protect them. They can all be
hacked into. And once they know they're
there, it's fair game, but I think that's
a little further beyond the conversation
that we're on right now.
At some point we need to establish an
identification number that is unique to
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the VAB, so we don't want people's
personal information and we don't want the
liability for that.
My question, Mr. Alfaro, is, are you
open to the idea of bifurcating the two
universes of documents, you know, having a
platform -- and I know in the report, what
you gave us is a platform for everything.
I just don't understand why we have
to put everything on a platform. Why we
can't put the public aspect of it already
on a cloud and then we have a conversation
about separate website and having it all
up there, because you're duplicating work.
What's going to happen is, we're
going to have a platform so we can have
all these documents, so they can be
secure. And then we're going to have a
conversation about transparency. And then
we're going to get a website, we're going
to take a document, we're going to
transfer them over to the public domain
when they're already in the public domain.
So is there a way, you know, to sort
of separate that, and say what do we need
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for the small universe of the appellate
process? And then all the other stuff,
let's talk about dumping it into the cloud
and making it accessible. And then we
have the third conversation, which is
elimination of social security numbers,
which I think we should have no matter
what.
MR. ALFARO: I think it's probably
more a timing question than anything else,
what you're asking me.
And I believe Commissioner Zapata
just handed out how he wants this process
to be carried over.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: It's a
suggestion.
BOARD MEMBER REGALADO: Right.
MR. ALFARO: A suggestion, and I
think we can follow that.
MR. SOLIS: Chair, if I may.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes, Mr. Solis.
MR. SOLIS: I think just to kind of
put everybody's mind at ease. My
understanding is that all confidential
information, social security numbers,
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income information, expense information,
income tax returns are held within the
Property Appraiser's Office. Those are
very secure and isolated into that system.
The information that is provided to
the VAB for purposes of conducting the
hearing is all public information.
Therefore, in terms of security,
Firewall and safeguarding the VAB system,
the documents and information that are
there are all for public consumption.
The only remaining concern would be,
as you mentioned, somebody hacking in and
maybe altering a number, but other than
that, I think everybody can sort of have
peace of mind that none of the sensitive
confidential information that we currently
hold within our systems is made available
to the VAB.
It's only the information that is
provided at a hearing, either by a tax
representative or the property owner
themselves, that becomes a public
document.
Therefore, the cloud concept or
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having the information all available to
the public should not be of a concern from
a security perspective.
MR. MARTINEZ: The only thing I would
like to add is, when we get into that
detail, those are going to be the
requirement that is going to be brought by
the stakeholders. These are the things
that we want in the system. And if the
clerk's office is going to be involved
with that, they're going to be bringing
different options. And the Board will
select which one meets the criteria best.
And there's many different ways to go
about this.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Mr.
Chair.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes, I want to
try to get this item kind of moving. I
think there's something we need to do
quickly.
Here's a suggestion, before you have
a suggestion of how we go about this. So
let's kind of work out something more
concrete and not go out too much into
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hypotheticals.
So you guys take a look at this.
Basically, it's kind of, you know, laying
out a process to move forward, creating
that selection committee, the composition
of the selection committee. And then, you
know, the staff would then, you know,
advertise this RFP, once it's approved by
the VAB members. You guys will bring up
something for us to review. So I think we
can do that.
So do you have any suggestions?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes.
And, look, I agree with you on the nuts
and bolts of it, it's fine. I agree with
the composition of the selection
committee.
My point is as to the cloud and the
input platform, you know, because what
we've seen before is a platform, and
historically that's what the County has.
So I think that, you know, as we
direct them to work on the RFP, we need to
decide are we open to the idea of putting
the public aspect of this in a cloud.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let me --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: And then
a separate --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let me ask you
this. This would be housed within the
County's IT infrastructure, correct?
MR. MARTINEZ: All the other ones we
have are.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So this would
be housed there.
Have you had a conversation with
Angel Patisco, our IT Director?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Did you suggest
to him the cloud to him and all that
stuff?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Did he tell you
if he was open?
What I don't want to do is -- we have
to work within that structure. So if he
can handle incorporating that into that
structure, then, you know, I'm sure we can
consider it and make it one of the points
to look at. So we'll just direct staff to
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try to find that -- and I don't have a
problem with that.
I follow what you're saying. I just
want to make sure that, you know, we're
not trying to stick a square peg in a
round hole.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: No, I'm
aware of that. I don't understand, even
if the County didn't want, you know, to
put it in their infrastructure, VAB
technically does not have to have the
documents in a cloud that belongs to the
County. I mean, it just doesn't.
I understand your point that's how
it's done, but just as a point of
reference.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I understand,
but who's going to run that? If it's not
within the County's infrastructure, who
would you run it?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Well,
that's why you enter into a contract part
of the RFP. I'm saying it's not --
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Mr. Chairman.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Mr. Diaz.
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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I want to clarify
a little more what I meant to say earlier.
I think what I'm trying to get to the
point is, we're already protected in the
system through our Property Appraiser's
Office.
We need to have an inner working
between the Clerk and all the entities
involved.
And I think what you're trying to say
is that, you want to make sure that we
don't overprotect something that is public
information anyway, but in today's world,
we're all working within a system and a
protected system. And due to that -- and
I've talked to Angel in the past, and I
basically asked a lot of questions as to
which way to go. And I think the Chairman
is very clear, because he brings all the
entities.
So once this is done and the RFP goes
out, it's a simple process that it won't
come back, because somebody didn't input
their part or do anything else.
Now, the only concern that I have on
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the public information, is that people
tend to now become a past time, or it has
been for quite a while, on hacking
information, to play with it, change it
around and do anything they possibly can
with it.
My only issue with the public
information is that they're protected from
people breaking in to change it. That's
it. As far as cloud, or not cloud or
whatever way you want, having this group
of people together preparing for the RFP
will take care of everything you're saying
and everything we're saying. I think it
will work just fine.
So I'm supportive of the way you're
bringing this, Mr. Chairman.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: My only
addition would be to consider during to
the process cloud storage in the County
and outside the County. I'm saying as a
consideration.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: But it's two
different things: One is storage where
the information is deposited, and the
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other is who's going to run the system?
Whose infrastructure would run the system?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And they all work
together.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: The question,
and what I was talking about is, are we
putting this within the County's
infrastructure. We could store it
separately.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Look at
the two options is all I'm saying.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, no. My
concern, what I'm saying, if we go in and
have an independent third party, they're
going to run the system. What happens if
that third party fails for whatever
reason, who's responsible at that point?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: But you
also have a contract.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We have a
contract, but if they go out of business,
they have a massive failure, a massive
hack --
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I feel more
secure with our system.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: -- who do you
fall back on?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's
why you have a contract. I hate to be an
attorney, but, I mean, that's why you have
a contract.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And I guarantee
you that when people start to question us
why did we put it in a third party, and
"We have a contract" is not going to cut
it.
I'm sorry, all your information, now
they have some Russian hacker, all the
information collapsed, but we have a
contract.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: No. Come
on.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I understand.
Listen --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You're
making it sound like, you know --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Listen.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: All I'm
saying is consider both options.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I'm playing
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devil's advocate. I have no problem
considering both options.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I'm
saying consider both options.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Everybody's
point is being --
THE COURT REPORTER: Everyone is
speaking at the same time.
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Mr. Chair, I think
you have to check with both issues. There
may be issues with emergency management
backing up stuff.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's where I
was coming from, but I didn't want to get
into it.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You know, this
is out of my realm of knowledge, this
whole IT thing. I mean, I have some very
basic understanding of it.
Do you have a comment on it?
BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: No.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Lazaro.
MR. SOLIS: If I may, the day-to-day
operations, the management of the system
could be done within the County facility
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or infrastructure.
The public access to the documents
could be part of a third party. Think of
it as a replica or a backup.
I think what you're both saying is
very doable. We can safeguard the data.
In other words, if the contract fails or
we get into a breach of contract, we would
still continue to operate, the VAB will
continue to move forward.
However, the public access of it, the
information, the mirroring of the data
could also be done by a third party with
minimal impact to County operations or
safeguarding of the documents.
So those are all things that the
committee could consider and come back
with various proposals for this Board to
take up.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's just doable.
Come on, we need to get with the times.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, and the
mirroring is fine. I mean, if that's what
you're talking about, yes, that's fine.
What I don't want is to put it in the
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hands of somebody else.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: But the
point is --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: They're the
keepers.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Thank you
for the clarification.
If you outsource it to a third party
and there is -- there always has to be a
backup, but the idea is that a third party
storage would make it easier to connect it
to the website and make it faster for
people to access the documents. It's just
more seamless. It's easier for them to do
that than for the County to have to, you
know, run that and put the information up
on the website. It would be a lot faster
and cleaner.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So could I make a
motion accepting what the Chairman has put
forth and to expedite it as fast as
possible, and all avenues be addressed,
including clouds and so on within the
committee.
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you.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So there's a
motion to direct staff to develop an RFP
in collaboration with the Clerk's office
for the procurement for the software. The
selection committee will include
representatives from the Clerk's Office,
the Property Appraiser's Office, Office of
Management and Budget, ITD and the Tax
Collector's Office. They'll prepare and
advertise the RFP and then they'll bring
it before the Board, correct?
A motion?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So moved.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Seconded.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Could we have a
time limit on that?
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Any questions
or comments?
What is the timeframe you guys are
looking at?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Staff, can
anybody --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What's the
timeline here for you guys?
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MR. MARTINEZ: I can't give you an
exact timeline. What I'd like to do is,
within 30 days, we can report.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Progress on it.
MR. MARTINEZ: And then we can see
where we're at.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Thirty days,
but we should have something soon after
those 30 days?
MR. MARTINEZ: Yes, and maybe reach
out before then.
MR. SOLIS: I think the next Board
meeting is scheduled for October.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: The
question is, are we going to make it
inside this budget. We have to make our
ask before the budget closes.
MR. SOLIS: If I may on the budget
side, it's going to take time to procure.
Typically, the way that the VAB costs
get charged back to the County and the
School Board are after-the-fact with
actual costs.
So an actual fiscal impact will be
determined once the selection is made by
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this Board and the contract is negotiated.
At that point, you'll have a better idea
what the fiscal impact is.
Typically, a project of this size is
phased in. So depending on the project
line and how long it takes to implement
the system, you can spread the costs over
one fiscal year or multiple fiscal years,
but you will have a very good idea of what
that cost is going to be once a vendor is
selected.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I've been
having conversations with the budget
director and stuff, so I think they're all
aware of this. It will fit in where it
needs to fit in. I'm sure they'll be
something for it in this year's budget.
We'll make sure of it.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I was
going to add, I mean, we should have an
estimate of some sort. I agree with you
that you could parcel it out, but we can
at least have a placeholder and say, look,
the commitment for this year is going to
be X, right? And then we'll have a final
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number at the end and then we can spread
it out.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Have any of you
had that conversation with the budget
director, spoken with her about it?
MR. MARTINEZ: Yes.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I mentioned it
to her, so we'll double-check. We'll make
sure we have something in the budget.
MR. SOLIS: This is actually
something that was discussed, I think,
about a year ago.
MR. MARTINEZ: We knew it five years
ago. They did look at a system, a system
cost around 500,000 at that point. And we
did put money in for this year just in
case that's where we were headed.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Did you put
approximately that amount?
MR. MARTINEZ: We put more than that.
We put more than that, 750.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Basically, you
have your place mat already. We don't
have to advertise. We don't want anybody
to go by whatever it is. Whatever we want
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to have the freedom that whoever bids,
bids properly with all due respect on the
issue.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We'll make sure
there's something in the budget as it
moves forward.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: They said there
is, they already put it in.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Is there
anybody objecting to that? That item was
adopted.
We're on to the next item.
MR. PUYANIC: Could I make one
comment?
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Sure.
MR. PUYANIC: You know, a lot of
times in hearings --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Name for the
record.
MR. PUYANIC: My name is Larry
Puyanic. I'm an agent.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Address.
MR. PUYANIC: 535 Hardee Road, Coral
Gables, Florida.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Thank you.
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MR. PUYANIC: So, anyway, you know, a
lot times when we're in a hearing, we get
tax returns for our clients. I don't
think you guys want to be responsible for
like some guy in Africa getting a copy of
my client's tax returns with their social
security number and his address and all
that stuff. There's stuff that's really
sensitive that goes in these hearings.
That's just my comment.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay. Staff,
I'm sure, will take care of that.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: It's a
matter of redacting.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Next item.
MR. BLANCO: "Item IV. Further
discussion on incentives for magistrates
to do 'condensed boards,' including
policies and actions taken regarding the
boards."
And, Mr. Chair, I've provided a
memorandum for the full Board regarding my
perceived definition of a condensed board
and the factors which should be looked at
when hiring magistrates for these types of
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boards.
This actually also addresses Item V,
as listed in the agenda. It should be
discussed, and the final definition as
well as a requirements of magistrates, who
serve in these types of hearings, should
be adopted for codification purposes, once
the Board reaches a consensus. And if you
want to include V, it could be both.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let's take up
Items IV and V together.
MR. BLANCO: "V. Further discussion
about productivity and actions taken in
developing said efficiency system for
magistrates, which shall include overtime,
availability, experience in the VAB
system, technology experience,
reschedules, amount of complaint letters,"
et cetera, et cetera.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Mr. Chair.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Commissioner
Diaz.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Mr. Blanco, first
and foremost, this is a pretty intense
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report/memorandum. We just got this now,
right? We didn't get this prior?
MR. BLANCO: We didn't have it prior.
It's similar to what I've presented to Ms.
Regalado in the past.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Right, but this
Board needs to have this, so we can
understand before we get here, to read
this stuff. Prior to us coming here that
we can get this information, if it's
possible, because it becomes very
difficult now to try to go through this.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I just got it
today, too.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I just got this.
We need to change the system to make sure
we get at least three days prior. Same
things we do with other meetings of this
magnitude, if we can do that.
One of the things I'd like to do,
which I'll look now, which I wish I had it
ahead of time, because it might be in
here, it might not be.
One of the things that came up from
the prior discussion of the Board before
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or the one prior, that as we look at
magistrates, I would like to find a way
that these magistrates also are from Dade
County. I think if they work, and they
live and they reside in Dade County, they
should be from Dade County. I'm not --
and I'm open to suggestions, but I think
that we do this with boards. We do this
with other things.
And I know that we're here as an
independent board. Both Juan and I belong
to an entity, which is government, and so
does Ms. Regalado, and then we have two
people that don't, but they belong to this
entity. So we're independent and we do
not look toward who we work with or part
of us, so I got that.
But I do believe that we should look
into people being from this County. And
it's something that I think we've done
with other things and other types of level
and other levels of government. And it
only adds to the people's knowledge and
the ones that make these decisions moving
forth.
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The other issue that I have is, what
happens when a person goes to get their
taxes, which is the ones that we represent
in this Board to reduce their taxes, a
citizen, or a resident, a taxpayer and
they don't agree with the magistrate's
decision, what takes place after that?
MR. BLANCO: They can appeal to the
circuit court, basically. It's their only
recourse.
They also could send a letter of
reconsideration to the magistrate. The
magistrate decides he made a mistake or
something, he could correct it and it will
be corrected in the records.
If the magistrate upholds his
original decision, they've got no other
option than to go to the circuit court and
sue in the circuit court.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: What's the time
process for something like that?
MR. BLANCO: Time process is,
whenever he files it with the circuit
court, basically. He'll send a letter to
the Board -- I mean, to the Clerk's
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Office, and the magistrate comes in, reads
a letter, within a week or two makes a
decision, no, I agree with this, or no I
disagree.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So this is a
pretty fast process?
MR. BLANCO: Yes, yes, it's a very
fast process. And then they can sue in
the circuit court, if they so desire.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And then it could
continue on?
MR. BLANCO: It could continue on,
correct.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So the
process doesn't end with the magistrates'
decision?
MR. BLANCO: If there's an appeal, it
goes to circuit court, correct, it goes
to a judge.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Okay. And out of
the -- and, I'm sorry to ask, because I'm
also in the learning process of this whole
thing, how many of these take place?
MR. BLANCO: Not too many.
MR. ALFARO: How many circuit court
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cases?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Or does it go
straight to the circuit? Or just people,
once they go to the magistrate and the
magistrate has a decision?
MR. BLANCO: That would be a huge
property typically. When you're talking
about a humongous property, you're talking
major money, but most cases, whatever,
they don't go to circuit court; it's not
cost effective.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: When I was
reading some things, some information you
brought to me some time ago, that wasn't
clear to me. And I wanted to make sure as
we're looking at expediting, moving the
system as fast as we possibly can, it
seems to be part of the whole discussion,
but we've been doing that. I wanted to
ask that question.
And also, again, and I want my
colleagues that are Board members here
too, you know, opine on the issue for Dade
County, because I think every County has
their own VAB board, and everybody should
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kind of be within that structure.
MR. BLANCO: If I may.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So that's just
something I'm throwing out to my
colleagues.
And Chairman --
MR. BLANCO: Broward County used to
do that and they actually ran into some
trouble with the DOR. You're not allowed
to exclude people from other counties.
What you can do is make it a
requirement that they must have intimate
knowledge of the County and they have to
be working in this County.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Why is that?
Because we do boards for a lot of other
things, and we make it that --
MR. BLANCO: I don't know why the DOR
decided that, but there's a lot of
commuters. There's a lot of commuters. I
happen to live in Broward, but my office
is here in Dade County, in Coral Gables.
There's a lot of commuters that work here,
and have worked here all their lives. You
know, as long as they have knowledge of
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the County, I think that's the first and
foremost that's important.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: It's a state --
I mean, the state is going to look at it
from a state perspective. They're going
to say you can be anywhere from the state.
MR. BLANCO: You're licensed from the
state.
MR. GARCIA: You'll have the problem
with the USPAC. People have no knowledge
from Miami-Dade County, they shouldn't be
here.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And to the
point, it's a valid point. I mean, we
always try to push --
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: We do that.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: -- for local,
but I think the way it's structured, it's
not to do it that way, but to have
somebody that has intimate experience of
Miami-Dade County. And that will help.
Ms. Regalado.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: So really
quick, when we talk about residency
requirements, and I brought the same thing
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to the School Board, right, we talk about
committee membership and participation and
we have to have knowledge of the County.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And your
taxpayers, too.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
Exactly.
In this situation, we're talking
about employment, so it's a completely
different legal aspect, because now you're
talking about discriminating against
someone because of where they live for
employment, not for community
participation, so you have to bifurcate
those two things. They're two completely
different universes.
Now, within this legal universe of
employment, you cannot not employ someone,
because they live in a separate county,
but you can use where they live as a
preference for ranking of your selection.
MR. BLANCO: Correct.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You can.
And that's really the solution to the
problem.
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You can't say you can't be a
magistrate, because you live in Broward,
but you can say there is a preference for
magistrates that live in Miami-Dade
County.
Two separate things, because should
you not have enough magistrates in
Miami-Dade County, you could always look
to one outside.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Ms. Regalado
improved what I said, and actually made it
a little bit better. So I appreciate her
improvement as a good attorney, you know,
that works.
My goal is that -- I guess our goal
is that the maximum allowable knowledge to
help the citizens --
MR. BLANCO: Correct.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: -- in this
process be from the same people that live
within their area and for that knowledge
purposes as stated.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: And I
think to sort of piggyback with what Pedro
was saying, you know, with the USPAC, I
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think as we look at -- we're going to look
at the application in a few minutes. If
we want to add something to the
application, you're compliant, but I think
we should drill down a little bit more
there and say, are you a resident of
Miami-Dade County and how much work have
you done, you know, in Miami-Dade County,
the percentage of the workload is in
Miami-Dade County. And that could be a
consideration when we, as a Board, decide
on employment. And that is not
discrimination.
MR. BLANCO: Correct.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's
just a consideration.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I'm in support of
that, because in no part and in no way is
this Board looking to discriminate against
anyone.
MR. BLANCO: Got you.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And you're
going to be moving to Dade County. Is
that what you said?
MR. BLANCO: Excuse me?
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You're going to
be moving to Dade County?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: You heard that.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: His house is up
for sale.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: As soon
as they get a new mayor.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Wow! Nobody's
touching that one. Nobody's touching that
one.
All right, next item, Mr. Chairman.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So, Mr.
Jardack.
BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: If I may, Mr.
Chair.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER MR. JARDACK: For the
sake of timeliness of participation and
activity of the magistrates, I requested
three items from Mr. Alfaro and he
supplied me some information, but it has
not been completed to make an analysis, to
do it in a mathematical way.
I have some numbers, but I requested
basically a total number of cases appealed
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for the year 2014, classified as
commercial, residential and others, number
of magistrates and the number of cases
handled by them, how many days each
magistrate work each month on the -- or
the entire year, number of appraisals and
the number of cases handled by them, how
many appraisals worked each month or the
entire year.
I think he supplied me with some
important information, but it's not
complete, because I wanted to have it
classified by residential, commercial,
industrial, vacant lot, just to give a
fair productivity on the number of cases
that each magistrate has handled
throughout the year, and how many he's
handled, and by the hours, or by the day
or by the month.
That way we can have some -- reach to
some formula where, if you have -- for
example, you have 65,000 cases, of which
56,000 has been certified, but to break
down these, I'm waiting for Mr. Alfaro to
give me the remaining information. We can
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come to a formula to see how many
magistrates are working on how many
commercial properties and how many
magistrates work on how many residential.
Then we can divide these cases by the
classified information that we have. Then
we can come to a conclusion, if we're
going to need overtime, or if we're going
to need an extra magistrate to cover
these, so it will be filed in time.
So I think I'll leave this until I
get the rest of the information.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So you
requested this information that we have
here, right?
BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: Right.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So you're
saying there's something missing, some
information missing?
BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: Yes, this is
for 2013. They don't have 2014.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So let's deal
with Item IV. We say we're going to talk
about the condensed boards, and the
policies and the actions we want for
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condensed boards, so let's take that on.
And then I think the information you
requested was for Item V, right?
BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: Right.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: To kind of look
at the productivity and create a process.
Let's handle IV. Ms. Regalado.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: So good
job. Just as a point of clarification,
right, this will be included in what we
want to establish as our procedures. So
we need a basic definition for what the
single board is, you referred to it, but
the idea is to have sort of a definition
of what a single board is.
MR. BLANCO: Single agent is what you
mean.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes,
single agent board.
MR. BLANCO: One agent the whole day.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I know
it's basic. You need that definition in
order to distinguish the condensed board.
When you explain the condensed board,
I think the language is fine. The only
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thing that you need a little bit more
clarification on what exactly is the
opt-in process. Is that a written
process? Is that a verbal process? You
know, when you opt in to use a condensed
board, how do you do that?
I know that you've just been talking
about it with the agents.
MR. BLANCO: Right.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: But do
you want an actual document? Is there
going to be some procedures to opt in or
is it simply going to be --
MR. BLANCO: It's just been
requested. They just requested.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Do they
request it? Do you suggest it? You know
what I'm saying?
MR. BLANCO: We don't suggest
anything. They come in. They opt into
it.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Does it say
anywhere how that opt-in process comes in?
MR. BLANCO: No.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I think
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that's my point.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That's her
point. We need to explain.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: How you
opt in? The idea somebody is going to
pull this up, they're going to see the
difference and they're going to be able to
understand the difference in how to opt
in.
I think the explanation of the time
is good. The explanation of the payment
is fine.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: If I can, I was
just reading along, and what she was just
specifying is, we had two agents that
opted in.
MR. BLANCO: Correct.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So there must be
some kind of a process.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: They just
asked.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's it?
MR. BLANCO: Yes, and then they
coordinate with the property appraisal.
It's been offered to everybody.
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We've had meetings and it's been offered
to a whole lot of them.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You need
to formalize it.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I got it.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And let me
share something.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: When I saw this,
this is why it threw me.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let me tell you
why this is important. I don't know what
the legislation is going to end up doing
with the VABs.
MR. BLANCO: I don't either.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You know, and I
spoke with representative Avila, and, you
know, he doesn't know either.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Yeah, I know.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: He has certain
things he wants to push for and do. So I
think it's very important for us to create
a structure. So whoever ends up --
whatever the structure is in the future,
whether it's an all-citizens board, or
what's the level of participation of the
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VAB, that there are some structures in
place that are clearly defined for anybody
who comes into this process and needs to
govern this process. So that's what we're
trying to now do.
So, Mr. Blanco, when you do these
things, I know just because of practice,
you know what an opt in is, but unless you
go through the process, you don't know
what an opt-in process looks like, so I
think we need to fill in those gaps.
MR. BLANCO: Okay.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think that's
going to be important moving forward to
have a clearly defined process, to have
definitions for some of these things, so
the opt in is a good point.
As we think all the things that we
do, and all the process that you have to
complete this whole process and this whole
function that we kind of fill in those
blanks and we put it on paper, so it's
real clear for anybody.
So somebody who has no idea about the
VAB is somehow appointed to this Board,
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they can see and read step by step how
this whole process works.
I think for future -- preparing us
for whatever future may bring, you know, I
think it's a prudent thing to do.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Ms. Regalado.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I would
only add -- I totally agree with Juan, and
we'll get into it a little bit more.
Another thing that you should
consider is, as we establish our internal
procedures and policies, you know, the
establishment of those and the voting of
this Board on those protects those from
whatever change may come from Tallahassee.
You have the legal opportunity
after-the-fact to say we have established
procedure.
Now, a mode in practice, you know,
something that you do, that is not
protectable by law, but if we, as a Board,
had already decided on particular
procedures and that is somehow attacked,
then you can say, well, you know, we want
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an exception to the rule, this is how we
do things here and we can show, right,
that that is legally protected.
So that's why I keep pushing you on
sort of the process and the procedure,
because as Juan was saying, we don't know
what's going to happen. And I want to
ensure that whatever we're doing, we can
continue doing, right, without having
Tallahassee sort of dictate what they
believe is the best practice for this VAB.
MR. SOLIS: Mr. Chair, if I may.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes, Lazaro.
MR. SOLIS: Maybe a recommendation
the Board can take up is, to instruct the
VAB attorney to come up with a form that
mirrors what his recommendation is on the
memorandum, just basically outlines what
those procedures are, the definitions,
whatever. That way the Board does not
have to reconvene to adopt a form, but in
essence the form takes on the wording or
the suggestions that are here. And then
you can also decide as Board members what
you want to change or add to that form.
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So a simple form could just be the
agent and/or party that's agreeing to
these condensed boards, what the
definitions are and what they are
accepting as part of the condition
participating in these condensed boards.
And that way the VAB attorney can just
create the form and then moving forward
can execute those agreements with the
participants.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I don't
have a problem with that, but legally it's
not as solid.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Legally
-- I mean, I understand your point, but
legally what you want to do is, you want
to have our VAB attorney provide us with a
procedure and this Board take a vote on
that procedure. That is what will give it
some protection.
A form is not going to have the same
type of protection, because it's going to
seem -- it is under his office and not
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constitutional authority that needs to
be --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What we're
talking about is two different things:
One is policies and procedures of this
Board.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What has been
done in practice becomes now -- we have
something on paper. So I think that's
important, because I doubt that
Tallahassee is going to get into that. As
long as we don't run afoul of DOR and the
state statutes governing this, I think
we're fine, but we need to have something
on paper that the Board has approved.
That at least gives a starting point
so whatever -- if the Board gets
reconstituted and how does that -- they'll
have a starting point from which to work
off of. Not this kind of, you know, gray
area that we have where things are done by
practice, but not necessarily by policy.
So we establish a policy. I don't
have a problem with the form. I think
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it's a good suggestion. Having a form
which kind of translates the policy in a
form, I think makes sense. It solidifies
the policy.
Commissioner Diaz.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Thank you.
And I just was reading along some of
this. When you're looking at these
magistrates coming in, I think the part we
said before should be applicable then,
too, to No. 2. Find a way of rewording
and dealing with that as to we made a
motion on it before.
On the other issue, how many days a
week do magistrates usually work?
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let me
interrupt you for a second. Are you
dealing with the productivity component on
V?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I thought we read
on all.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We have
to finish this.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let's finish
IV.
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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I thought we went
through all of them.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, we're on
Item IV, definition of condensed boards.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I thought this
was part of condensed boards.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, I think it
deals with condensed boards, but you're
talking about Item V?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I'm talking about
what was just presented. I'm talking
about what Mr. Blanco presented us, the
memorandum, value adjustment boards on the
condensed boards themselves. And that's
why I asked you about upping and so on,
which got cleared, the 50 to 60 cases they
deal with.
MR. BLANCO: And your question was,
how many do they typically do? One a
week.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So they work one
day a week.
MR. BLANCO: Typically. Sometimes
you can have a magistrate come in twice a
week, but typically it's once a week.
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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Is that something
when there's a major caseload that is
upped, or to twice or three?
MR. BLANCO: It could be two or three
times. When we're in a rush, that's
exactly what winds up happening, some
magistrates wind up serving multiple times
in a week, I'd say.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: If you're doing
condensed boards and you're trying to deal
with expediting and moving faster, you
know, when I saw the once a week that kind
of was --
MR. BLANCO: Typically most
magistrates are once a week.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And it's then
subject -- but it doesn't say it anywhere,
subject to caseload, where you could
improve those days and adding on more
days, who decides that?
MR. BLANCO: You ask the different
magistrates. You know, you have the
clerk's office call the magistrates, "Are
you available"?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It would be under
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you, too.
MR. ALFARO: If the magistrates are
available more than one day a week, we'll
go ahead and schedule them.
MR. BLANCO: Correct.
MR. ALFARO: If we need to.
MR. BLANCO: Because most are
self-employed.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It says
magistrate should be available to make
sure he or she -- no, here it is.
Magistrates should be available when
solicited on any day of the working week,
at least once a week.
So "should" is command word, so
basically -- I'm trying to do your part
here.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I'm happy
to do it. I already tore it apart.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: The issue is --
MR. BLANCO: This is something I came
up with. You're welcome to --
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's something
good. We have something to go on. I
appreciate that it's being done.
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I just want to make sure that when
we're talking about expediting, I know
that Pedro put in a lot last time and also
Lazaro, to try to expedite and move this
along. And when I saw this once a week,
that's what kind of threw me off.
So you have the discretion of
increasing the workload --
MR. BLANCO: At least once a week.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: -- based on it.
So I just -- there's a reason I saw it off
a little bit, but okay.
So, basically, you would call it
based on the workload?
MR. BLANCO: Correct.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I just
have a few quick questions, if I could,
Mr. Chair.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Go ahead.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: On the
second page, magistrate should have a
minimum two years' experience. Are we
going to say that that is continuous? Is
it two years back to back or is it two
years sporadically?
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MR. BLANCO: We're talking about the
condensed boards.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right,
we're talking about the condensed boards.
MR. BLANCO: At least two years'
experience I think is necessary.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Back to
back or two years like you have someone
who did it a year?
MR. BLANCO: If you want it back to
back, however, you want to word it.
Again, this is something I threw out for
discussion.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right, I
think back to back make sense, two years
back to back makes it a lot easier. You
don't want to go 15 years ago, I had a
year, then in Cabo six months, you know,
and then --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What number is
that? What is the amendment?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Number 1.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Number 1B?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes,
continuous two years' experience.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Would be a
continuous two-years' experience?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Remove minimum,
take out minimum?
MR. BLANCO: Take out minimum?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: No, it
would be minimum two years' experience.
MR. BLANCO: Two years continuous.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: As
special magistrate.
"Number 2. A magistrate should
demonstrate good understanding of the
Miami-Dade County market."
How is that going to be determined?
What comprises a good understanding?
MR. BLANCO: Appraisal reports. The
appraisers doing the bulk of his work in
Miami-Dade County.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What is bulk?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
Is there a percentage? Is it a
percentage?
MR. BLANCO: There's not necessarily
a percentage. If you're doing a bunch of
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of -- most of your appraisals in Dade
County, I mean, you can --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So do we do
50%? Let's put a number on it again.
MR. BLANCO: 50%.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: The idea
is to give it some weight, right? It's
all very amorphous.
So the question is, what is a good
understanding?
Do we believe that a demonstration of
a good understanding is 50% of your
workload in Miami-Dade County?
Do you believe that a good
understanding -- I mean, I'm asking you.
You're the one that works with them.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Is there
anybody here from the public who is one of
these bulk or, what is it you call it,
volume folks?
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Condensed.
MR. BLANCO: Both of them are here.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Have they seen
this?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: What do
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you think a good understanding is?
MR. AGUIRRE: We don't have it.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Can we get them
copies.
MR. BECK: It's subjective, because
if you have an appraiser --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Name and
address, please.
MR. BECK: Stan Beck, and presently
reside in Broward County.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Temporarily. I
think the word is temporarily residing in
Broward.
MR. BECK: Native Miamian and
graduate from Miami Senior High.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: There you
go. He's an honoree. He gets a pass.
MR. BECK: I think it has to be
subjective. I haven't thought it through,
but to add 50%, where an appraiser only
did two appraisals the whole year, but one
was in Dade County would not mean that he
had a good understanding. So it cannot --
I don't believe it could just be
arithmetic.
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It has to be substantial evidence of
knowledge and experience practicing on a
regular basis with more than simple
properties. They ought to have some
complex properties as well.
I mean, if you did 50 condos doesn't
mean that you're going to be able to
handle the Fontainebleau Hotel, so it's
very subjective.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So any
suggestions on criteria that we could put
in there that could strengthen this?
MR. BECK: Well, you have a VAB
attorney, who, himself, has been a special
magistrate for over 20 years and is an
attorney and an appraiser. So between
your VAB attorney and the manager of the
VAB, I think they have to use some
judgment and look at what they're
experiencing. And then if they have a lot
of complaints and instances where
magistrates don't finish on time and
things like that, that's the judgment.
You know, if you could compare it to
circuit court judges, you can't do an
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arithmetic evaluation of the competence of
anyone who's hearing disputed cases. I
think it requires subjective analysis.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I have a
suggestion.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Sure.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: And,
again, all procedure needs to have
definitions. That's what this is about,
you know. So the idea is to define terms.
And I understand your point, but I'm
trying to safeguard the process. And if I
leave it up to their judgment, Tallahassee
is going to define a process for me, so
just bear with me.
How's about we define good
understanding, right, the demonstration of
good understanding as a consideration of
percentage of work done in Miami-Dade
County, complexity of work done in
Miami-Dade County and timeliness? Those
would be your three factors that you would
then subjectively consider when
determining a good understanding.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That works.
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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's very
positive.
MR. PUYANIC: Larry Puyanic again.
You know, if you look at a magistrate
who's been serving for the Value
Adjustment Board for 10 or 15 years and
somebody who really has been around the
block here in Miami-Dade County, those
people, I believe, have demonstrated a
good understanding of the market. And if
they've been here for 15 years and they
don't have a lot of complaints, this is
something that should be a no-brainer.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: But this is not
backward looking. This is forward
looking. So, obviously, if you have
somebody who's functioned well and doing a
good job, I don't think we're looking at
that.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We're looking
at it as we're bringing in new people in
the future.
Look at this a bit in the abstract.
We're talking about creating a process for
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the future. I mean, I think there's some
things you guys know is working, no need
to tamper with that, but as things change
and move forward, I mean, we want to kind
of--
MR. PUYANIC: When they open the pool
after some made complaints, some of the
magistrates weren't getting condensed
boards, when they're opening the pool to
some of the people who weren't doing it, I
found that if I had 50 cases in a
four-hour period to do, I might get 15 or
17 of them done and then the rest had to
be rescheduled because of that, but it
wasn't my fault that it dragged on. It
was a fault of having someone --
MR. BLANCO: And experience.
MR. PUYANIC: -- that didn't have --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's
further in the agenda. That's a few.
We're going to get there.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We're going to
get there.
So the suggestion, everybody okay
with that suggestion?
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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Well, actually I
wanted to add --
MR. APPEL: Experience.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: What was it you
said, that they have to have experience?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO:
Consideration of experience of work,
percentage of work in Miami-Dade County,
complexity of work, experience and
timeliness.
MR. GARCIA: USPAC, all the
appraisers have.
MR. BLANCO: If you're an appraiser,
if you're a licensed appraiser, you must
be USPAC compliant.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So we're there
already.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: We're there
already.
MR. BLANCO: Which is what I was
told.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I was just
following what was said earlier. I wanted
to be sure.
MR. BLANCO: You have to have
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knowledge or make yourself knowledgeable.
An appraiser -- how does an appraiser do
that? Hires another appraiser to help
him. In this case, you're acting as a
magistrate, so it's impossible to hire
another guy to help you out with it. You
have to be USPAC compliant, otherwise
you're risking your license.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's a given.
MR. BLANCO: That's a given.
MR. SOLIS: Can we make it part of
the consideration for the magistrate?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Later on
in the agenda.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's what I
said earlier. I thought we discussed
that.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's
when we get to the criteria.
Focus, people, focus.
"Three. Master the current computer
system."
How are you going to determine that?
I'm just saying. What does that mean?
MR. BLANCO: If you have been
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practicing for two years, if you have been
doing it for two years, you're pretty
good. Up to like six months, you've
already kind of learned the system anyway.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's going to
change anyway. If you --
MR. BLANCO: In other words, if you
can't master the computer system, you're
not going to be able to finish the
condensed board.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: My point
is, how do you gauge that? Is it that
input is too slow? I would think input is
too slow.
MR. BLANCO: If they don't complete
their cases, I don't believe they've
mastered the computer system.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: But you would
know who has mastered it or not.
MR. BLANCO: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Then that's
fine. That one I think is fine.
MR. BLANCO: I know could handle it
and who can't.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: V.
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COMMISSIONER DIAZ: IV.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: IV.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: This is the
question.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: The
property should be similar as possible. I
don't know if you want to make the
distinction there between commercial and
residential. I would tell you to be a
little bit more specific on V.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We're on IV.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: IV is
fine.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: This is the
question I asked you earlier, so I just
wanted to make sure.
MR. BLANCO: IV is what you're
talking about or V.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: IV. We're on
IV. Is everybody okay?
MR. BLANCO: Yes.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Everybody good
with IV.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: At least once a
week.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: He said it
could be more.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It could always
be more. It's your call.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay, V.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: V. I
think is an opportunity to explain the
different types of properties, just an
enumeration.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You mean to
clarify it.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yeah,
yeah, just to clarify, you know,
properties scheduled should be as similar
as possible. I think you need to explain
that, you know. Are we talking about
you're going to lump --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Similar by
geography.
MR. BLANCO: Typically, what you're
doing residential when the clerk calls
you, hey, you're listening to residential
today.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Why don't you
clarify?
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BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: The point
is, if that's a hard rule where we're
doing a condensed for today just
residential or we're doing condensed for
commercial.
MR. BLANCO: You run into the problem
towards the end of the year where you have
the mixed boards, basically, where there's
a hodgepodge.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: It
doesn't say that. It just says for the
most part, it's going to be just
residential, or just commercial. However,
there's existing the possibility at the
end of the year, you know, in order to
comply with timeliness that there may be a
mix of the two. That explains it.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Do you guys
incorporate geography?
MR. BLANCO: Yes, that's homogenous
market areas.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Say that then,
say homogenous market area, residential,
commercial. And then give yourselves --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Give
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yourself the wiggle room at the end.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: To do the mixed
boards at the end.
MR. SOLIS: Typically, when we get to
that point, we stop the condensed boards,
because it's not --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: A
condensed board anymore.
MR. BLANCO: It can't be done.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So a mixed
board can't be a condensed board.
MR. SOLIS: Should not be. It could
be, but it's not going to be very
condensed.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Do you want to
give yourself an out or not? And that's
the thing. And you can say, you know,
and, you know, it could, you know, have a
mixed board at the end. You can add that
there. I'm not telling you that you have
to do it, but, look, again, we're trying
to create -- so the policy here is, if
you're going to have a condensed board
that's mixed, then you got to give
yourself the option and then you can
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establish the criteria for that option.
MR. SOLIS: But I think you have the
option here, because it says you should
be, not must be. The should be implies
this is what we're shooting for, but you
may have situations where you might get,
let's say, 10 residential, the rest are
commercial.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think we have
a good starting point. You're going to
make some fixes. Bring it back up before
us so we can give it one final look, but I
think this is a good start.
MR. BLANCO: As soon as I read the
transcript, because there's a lot thrown
in here.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I took
notes. I'll email. We'll go back and
forth.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Take notes.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I would
just add one thing, Commissioner.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Pedro, did you
want to say something?
MR. GARCIA: No.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I'm sorry. Go
ahead.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Earlier
we talked about definition of a single
board. You know, and then obviously we're
working on a definition of a condensed
board.
MR. BLANCO: It's not a single board.
It's a single agent board.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Single
agent. Do you understand, use terminology
to not confuse people.
You know, maybe you want to add a
third option of a mixed board and say what
that is, that that may happen at the end,
you know, for purposes of complying with
timeliness and just to give yourself a
definition.
MR. SOLIS: That just falls --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: It's a
catchall.
MR. SOLIS: That falls into
traditional board.
MR. BLANCO: We normally were told as
magistrates -- when I was a magistrate,
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I'd get a call, Manny, Wednesday, at such
and such time, it's going to be
residential boards, or it's going to be
commercial boards or it's going to be
mixed commercial/residential. They'll
always give you kind of an idea.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Let me ask you
straight out, how many boards are there?
How many types of boards could there be?
MR. BLANCO: How many types of
boards?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Uh-hum.
MR. BLANCO: You have industrial; you
have commercial; you have vacant land;
single-family; you got multifamily.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So all these
boards, when they fall into a category,
they can be put under a condensed, or a
traditional or what other types of boards?
MR. BLANCO: There's either
condensed.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Because
commercial falls under condensed.
MR. BLANCO: Yes.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It could be
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residential?
MR. BLANCO: All of them could.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: So I think what
we're all saying is, we need to define
that, and put, you know, what could be
part of a condensed and what could not.
There's condensed, there's
traditional. And what was the other one
that was mentioned?
MR. SOLIS: Single agent.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Single agent. So
if we could just put them in some kind of
a scope.
MR. BLANCO: Just about everything
could be condensed.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And we're working
on something that the Chair brought up
earlier and also Regalado brought it up
earlier that we're working against the
state trying to define it for us.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And we need to
give them clarity and definition. I think
if you put it in a bracket system, and
then define what throws one to one side, I
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think it covers everything.
MR. BLANCO: And I think condensed
thing is unique to Dade County only.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Listen, even
more the reason.
MR. BLANCO: Because of the high
volume.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What you want
do is make sure you have something that's
been thought through and that it's clear.
And the fact that we have it and it works,
I think it is something that will protect
us moving forward.
Listen, I think it's a great start.
I think it just needs some fine tuning.
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Mr. Chairman, on
Items I and IV, change the word from
"should" to "shall".
MR. BLANCO: Where?
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Item I and IV.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I agree.
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Magistrate
"should" should be changed to "shall".
MR. BLANCO: Shall.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: More command.
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MR. BLANCO: Shall have. Okay.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Good point.
MR. BLANCO: That works.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I and IV.
MR. BLANCO: Shall.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Good catch.
Mr. Jardack, any comments you'd like
to add?
BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: No, just
looking at the numbers here.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That's fine.
Anybody from the public have any
quick comment?
Name and address, please.
MS. WALINSKY: Wendy Walinsky
(phonetic), (inaudible).
I don't have the benefit of seeing
the memo that Manny presented. Are these
same rules going to apply to the single
agent boards as they are to the condensed
boards?
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I don't think
we've discussed that yet.
MR. BLANCO: We haven't discussed it
yet, but what I would assume -- what she's
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saying is, there's going to be -- we're
offering single agent board, but not --
that's not condensed. It's a full day.
But the benefit to that is, we they
don't have to be running from room to
room. They're going to be changing, you
know, waiting on somebody, etc, etc. It's
just one agent, one room all day.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Again,
going back to the establishment of
procedures, you know, Mr. Blanco, I think
you know, that you were tasked last
meeting with condensed boards, so I think
now we should task you with single agent,
so that you can come back. I mean, the
idea is to have something that's
comprehensive.
MR. BLANCO: Basically, it's the same
thing.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Again, I
just want to be make sure that we're very
clear what the procedure is. That it's
well vetted and that everyone understands
it, should something change in
Tallahassee, that we have that.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So we have, I
guess, this policy.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I think if we do
the bracket system, the way that we just
-- I think everything falls in place,
because you're defining -- her question
will be defined, because it will all be
bracketed into three different types of
boards, and then condensed or not
condensed, but what would it trigger,
either way. If I'm wrong, please tell me
now, because that's the way I thought
simplistically it would work.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: But I
think you should still have to have
defined terms.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's part of
it, what throws it into this level, what
throws it into this level, but, you know,
we have many different types of boards,
within single agent, condensed and
traditional. So if you put it in some
kind of like a graph form, with the
explanations, I think it will make it
simpler for everybody moving forward.
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BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: The
Commissioner is a visual learner.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So --
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: That's why I
never forget a face.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So do we have
to do a resolution to kind of adopt this?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: When it's
final.
MR. BLANCO: When it's final, I
think, because there's several changes
that you've requested.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Then we'll do
that.
MR. BLANCO: At our next meeting, if
we meet in October, whenever you guys want
to meet.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: October?
June. You're killing me. We have to get
this done.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We'll have a
meeting before October.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Not during the
break.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So if anybody
from the public, if anybody, from anybody,
you know, has an issue, bring it up with
Mr. Blanco so that he can continue to fine
tune this policy.
MR. BLANCO: Raquel, I'll get
together with you.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We'll go
through it.
MR. BLANCO: Because I know that
you've already offered yourself.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Mr. Blanco,
take good notes.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Well, we have
somebody really good.
MR. BLANCO: Well, we'll have the
transcript. And I even have the
transcript from the last hearing
(indicating).
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I thought we
talked more.
So we're good on Item IV.
We're on Item V. Mr. Jardack, you
wanted to --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We didn't
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do incentives for magistrates. We just
did definition of the condensed board.
Okay, so incentive for magistrates,
right? Let's go back to the idea of
creating some kind of hierarchy.
What we talked about at the last
meeting is, you know, we want to provide
some benefit to participating in the
condensed boards. We talked a little bit
about shadowing, you know, and that we
would like magistrates to have less
experience to shadow magistrates that have
more experience, that we would consider
some sort of change in the pay rate.
You know, at the same time, we also
want experienced people to be in the
single boards. How are we going to work
that?
MR. BLANCO: I don't know how that's
going to work.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: How is that going
to become discriminatory?
MR. BLANCO: The contract is $700 for
a day.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's a flat fee.
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MR. BLANCO: It's a flat fee.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Can we
establish some sort of rotation to ensure
-- I mean, you can have, because the
idea is --
MR. BLANCO: It's already in the
rotation system, which is part of the
problem, because some of the more
experienced ones can handle like these
quote, unquote condensed boards, whereas
the lesser experienced, the newcomers, et
cetera, I mean, all you do is schedule and
reschedule.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: You don't want
to --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right,
but that was to his point. I mean, now we
get into, you know, who knows what.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We discussed
creating two pools?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right,
two pools.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: If I recall.
MR. BLANCO: Right, that's what we
discussed.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: One pool would
be the more experienced pool, blind pool.
MR. BLANCO: Which is the majority of
them, by the way. It's a large enough
pool that it's not discriminatory.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Is there a way
to create policy on that or is it better
left to your discretion?
MR. BLANCO: The Board pretty much
left it to our discretion at our last
meeting.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: When we
talk about incentives -- sorry to
interrupt -- you know, we were talking
about changing the pay.
Our whole point last meeting was that
there is no true incentive to
participating in a rapid fire sort of
condensed board.
MR. BLANCO: There is a good
incentive. For me, for instance, I'm not
an early riser. I rather, you know, come
to the office a little later.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You have
a ride. It takes you a lot longer to get
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MR. BLANCO: You're right, I'd rather
leave a little later. That was an
incentive. I used to love to come to the
afternoon board meetings. Some of the
magistrates prefer the morning. They're
done by 12 o'clock. I think that's a
great incentive.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: It's a flat fee?
I'm sorry to interrupt.
MR. BLANCO: Whether you're done by
12 or you're done or by 5 o'clock.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Lets do this.
Can you talk to some of them, see if
anybody has any ideas, any suggestions?
MR. BLANCO: Sure. We've had general
meetings with all the magistrates.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Have that
conversation. I think that's an item we
can bring back. I don't see that as a
pressing item, but I think we need to kind
of poll some of these folks.
MR. BLANCO: I will.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And the
discussion from last time, where he says
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the experience overlaps that whole
process, if you have the experience,
you're going to be done by noon.
MR. BLANCO: You're going to be done
quickly.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: And you're done,
but will get experience, will eventually
make it there. And that's what you said
last time.
MR. BLANCO: Right, if consider on an
hourly basis, you finish eight hours in
four hours, you just made double the hour,
you know.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So let's keep
looking into that. I think it's something
worth considering.
Then on Item V, let's -- because this
one has a lot of moving parts.
MR. BLANCO: Yes, that was kind of
incorporated into IV earlier.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So I know the
numbers, Mr. Jardack, you wanted more
numbers.
BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: This is what
I'm working with Mr. Alfaro.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Make sure what
you're asking him. I think we had a
discussion. He had a question on looking
at the numbers to creating a more
productive discussion.
BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: From previous
discussion, you have 38 magistrates. They
work once a week. If you multiply that by
52 weeks, you have 1,976 weeks. So if you
divide 56,000 by the number of weeks
worked, each magistrate has 28 cases. So
28 cases, but that is not classified. So
it cannot really read it the average
amount like that. That's what I asked him
to do.
MR. BLANCO: Some do a lot more
cases, some do a lot less.
BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: Then also part
of the productivity and the incentive is
the rehiring for the magistrates that have
accomplished more than others.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So it's
creating kind of a productivity kind of
formula. So you're going to work with him
on that and just come back to us?
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MR. ALFARO: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER JARDACK: Yes.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Anybody have
any other comments on this productivity?
We have to be very sensitive how we
do all this stuff.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Mr. Chairman, I
have to leave. I have a prior engagement
I have to be at.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Do you have any
comments on any of the other items?
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: Before I leave,
basically, we can go on this last item, I
just want to make sure that the allowance
and everything, the audits and so on, I
think we left it last time to make sure
legally.
MR. BLANCO: Right.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I don't want
people that sit on this Board here that
are trying to do the right thing get into
any kind of issues due to the subject at
hand. And, you know, when I was first
started, I did not understand that.
So moving forward, just clarity and
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the transparency of the process is I think
very important to keep that independence
of this Board. So I think you understand
where I'm at on it.
MR. BLANCO: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: The last issue
that I have is that, instead of taking
longer, you know, we're pretty much now
very vested into all these issues.
And my friend Hani has basically
asked for a lot of the key things that we
get the information. And the sooner we
get this information, the easier it is to
kind of wrap this up. And the faster we
wrap this up, the better it will be to be
with Tallahassee, as stated before,
because they're about to make decisions.
If we're very clear in sending an
outline, and a graph and everything else
to make it simple -- and, yes, I'm a very
visual person, okay -- it will only help
this whole Board move forward.
And as the Chairman said, this is not
about looking back, it's about looking
forward now and making sure that people
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that will follow us will have a clear
process in all of this.
So with that, I just prefer sooner
than later, so we can finish and then do
as the Chairman said.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Do you
think you can do 30 days?
MR. BLANCO: Thirty days?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes, our
next meeting in 30 days.
MR. BLANCO: You want to have another
one in 30 days?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I would
have it in 15 to finish it up. I'm just
giving you 30.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I'm in the same
mode.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let's do it
before July.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: We're looking
at --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: They're
going to be meeting.
COMMISSIONER DIAZ: I've talked to
the representative. And they honestly, I
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really think they need guidance as to
where we're at, because they're right now
going to give us the guidance and it might
not be the guidance that we're looking
for.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And I think the
bottom line, the discussion next year in
the legislature, the fact is that we'll
have more clarity, things in order, that
will help us with our credibility, and
since we've kind of been the one with the
greatest amount of issues.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That
we've been provided.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Also helps the
discussion moving forward.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: We just
want to demonstrate that we've been
proactive, and this is what we've done. I
think the sooner we do that, the better.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Absolutely.
So besides scheduling that meeting
before July --
MR. ALFARO: You said before July,
sir?
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MR. BLANCO: Before the 4th of July
vacation, basically.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We'll have it
in your honor at 7:30 a.m., my suggestion
to those folks who are not morning risers.
MR. BLANCO: It's easier to get here
at 7:30.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: All right. So
are we good in Item V?
Let's move on.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: It's
going to come back to us, right?
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Correct, yes.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: So right
now IV and V are going to come back.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Mr. Jardack
would like to see more numbers. I think
he's right on point to try to understand
this a little bit better so we can
establish kind of standards. I think that
goes with the metric that we want to talk
on Item VII.
Let's move on to VI.
MR. BLANCO: "Item VI. Further
discussion on potential codification and
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allowance of 'School Board Audits' on
expenses only and actions taken regarding
legal opinion requested by the Board."
Okay, Mr. Chairman, I have reached
out to our DOR attorney, Mr. Steve Keller,
Esq., and there is no definitive answer to
this. He did, however, indicate to me
that in the absence of a state statute or
DOR regulation, that we may go ahead and
create our own, as long as there is no
conflict with any existing rule and/or
statutes currently on the books and it
does not interfere with the VAB process.
For example, it doesn't shift manpower
from this to the auditors like it did in
the last audit.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: If I
could speak to that.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Sure.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's
great. That's what I was expecting, so
I'm glad that he agreed with that
assessment.
I think that we'll resolve part of
this by having all the documents
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accessible. So once we get to that point,
where anybody can access them. Obviously
the school district can also access them.
So then really you'll be dealing with the
generation of specific, you know, data.
And that's very different than going
through piles and piles of documents.
So I think that, you know, what we're
working on right now will expedite it, you
know. And, again, you know, the idea is
to make it a lot easier to do an audit.
So --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: There
seems to be no movement on a contract.
Just so that you know, I brought an item
to the School Board that was approved by
the School Board entering into a contract
with Miami-Dade County for this process,
but there's just too many stakeholders.
But the whole reason for entering into a
contract was to trigger the audit.
So if we do it internally and just
allow it, it saves everybody a lot of
grief.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We need to take
action?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yes, we
need to direct him to codify it.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That the School
Board can conduct audits on expenses?
MR. BLANCO: It's on the record
already.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Why I
want it as procedure.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Look, trust me,
up in Tallahassee, if we can show them a
little book of something, these are
policies and procedures.
And I'll tell you why, because I
guarantee you out of 60, 70 counties, very
few will actually have something like
that. And it's us to kind of, like,
stirred up the pot, it will help to show
this is how we operate. That way they
know what we're about. They'll know what
the VAB is about.
Listen, it's very important, I said
it in the last meeting, that this Board
operates for the benefit of the taxpayers.
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It needs to be clear. It needs to be
clear in that policy. It needs to be
clear in how we conduct things, how we
structure things.
You know, moving forward, the more we
do that, I think the better what we do
here will resonate up in Tallahassee, but
I'm telling you, having something, I know
it may seem just like extra work and all
that, it's an investment worth making in
the front end. I think it will pay
dividends in the back end.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: So we
take a vote on it. Can I vote on it?
MR. BLANCO: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Just to
be clear.
MR. BLANCO: You're part of the
Board. You're part of the quorum.
Without you, we don't have a quorum.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Without you,
we're voting it down just so you know.
It's going down.
It's moved, seconded by the Chair.
Any objection?
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Show that as adopted without
objection.
(Ms. Regalado moved it).
Okay, Item VII.
MR. BLANCO: "Item VII. Discussion
and action taken to establish metrics for
the determination of the Value Adjustment
Board's cost per case."
Mr. Alfaro, I believe you have a
preliminary report on this one, correct?
MR. ALFARO: Commissioner Zapata, I
handed you a cost analysis that I did for
the last 12 months. You should have it in
the packet there.
What I did was, I brought the last 12
months of expenses for the VAB, including
staffing and special magistrate's salaries
and everything included in our expenses,
and divided by the number of cases that we
have. And came up with a cost per case by
$33.
Broward County did a similar study
about four years ago and --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Let me ask you,
did you break this between residential,
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commercial?
MR. ALFARO: This is everything.
This is all the cases. This is
everything, including legal cases,
everything, because, you know, we schedule
special magistrates, whether it's legal,
attorney magistrates or appraisal
magistrates.
MR. BLANCO: All the same.
MR. ALFARO: Broward County, having a
total of 5,555 cases four years ago came
up with a $67.50 per case.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And it was --
we were all including all the same
expenses?
MR. ALFARO: Yes.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Did Broward
include all the expenses that we did?
MR. ALFARO: I don't know if they
did, but they might have gone to just
special magistrate's salaries. And at
that point, we only did that, and we came
up with $15 a case back then when we did
this.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Did they
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include the property appraiser's expenses?
Did we include any?
MR. SOLIS: I don't think, no.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I don't know
what other expenses there are.
MR. ALFARO: We don't include their
expenses.
MR. SOLIS: The only logical
conclusion there is, Manny, maybe I think
you did boards in Broward for a time, is I
think they hold more boards over -- and
they have a lot less cases per hearing.
MR. BLANCO: And it takes a lot
longer per board. For instance, one board
might have 15 to 20 cases for the whole
day.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Listen, I think
having those metrics and kind of getting a
good understanding is something good. I
mean, obviously if it shows that we're
efficient in that process, I think it's
good.
MR. SOLIS: The only thing I would
caution the Board, is there have been some
questions raised in terms of the quality,
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and that by putting more pressure on
expediting the process --
MR. BLANCO: Due process issues.
MR. SOLIS: So there has to be a
balance.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Would it make
sense to separate between the residential,
the commercial when calculating these
expenses?
MR. BLANCO: If you feel like doing
that for whatever reason to compare.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I mean, I just
think that two different approaches. I
mean, the residential is kind of, you
know, they have more of the same.
MR. BLANCO: They tend to have more
cases.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Why don't we
look at it just as an exercise to see if
we could separate them. Could that
possible? Is that doable?
MR. ALFARO: It comes out --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Does that make
a problem?
MR. ALFARO: The problem is the
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expenses that I showed you included the
special magistrate's salaries, which is
the bulk of the expenses probably.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Okay.
MR. ALFARO: And to be able to break
them down, it's probably going to be hard
to do that.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: It gets a
little tough.
MR. ALFARO: Yes, that's why I gave
you everything. If you need anything
else, we're forced to include it, I don't
know if we have anything else.
MR. SOLIS: We can give you our cost.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think Mr.
Solis makes a good point. You know, it's
good to understand the cost, but it's also
important to understand the quality.
And some of those complaints, have
they been on the residential side or have
they been on the commercial side?
MR. SOLIS: No, just overall the
process. There's been so much emphasis
over the last year or two to expedite and
efficient time that on a couple of
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occasions people have just kind of said be
cautious in trying to achieve the goal,
you may be sacrificing --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You trample
over some folks.
MR. SOLIS: Correct. In terms of the
cost, a lot of these magistrates have
mixed boards, so it's difficult to
distinguish between residential and
commercial, but if the Board also wishes
we can provide the cost that we incur as
part of our process.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think that
would be good to have, too, so get us
those numbers.
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Mr. Chair.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Yes.
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: And if you could
break out the magistrates for now on a per
case basis.
MR. ALFARO: I can provide you with a
salary on the magistrates. Yes, I can do
that. I can isolate that.
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: That concern is,
the cases drop dramatically. I'm sure
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that number is going to grow
significantly.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: The cost per
case you're talking about?
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Because the cases
are going to drop.
MR. ALFARO: I just did it just
magistrate salary, and it was probably
$15 -- a little less than $15 per case
came out to it.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think that's
a good point. I think moving forward,
kind of create a baseline that gives you
some idea of your cost over time.
MR. ALFARO: You want me to show
special magistrate salary as a
different --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: On a per case
basis, the cost of that on a per case
basis.
And then you guys are going to get us
-- Lazaro, you're going to get us your
cost.
Anything else we want to look at that
would be helpful?
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I mean, look, again, to the point of
Tallahassee, I mean, things that we can
show that we're running an efficient
operation and all that kind of stuff, you
know, as things start to change, we show
that, hey, we're monitoring this, we're
making sure I think the quality component
is important. I think that needs to be
addressed. I don't know if there's an
internal process that somehow, a survey, a
mechanism that you guys do, a feedback
mechanism that you guys do, so that
people, you know, feel that somehow
they're getting kind of trampled on a
little bit, so we can address that and
we're aware of that, I think would be
something that is helpful.
MR. APPEL: I appreciate Lazaro
making a point that justice and procedures
are sometimes not the most cost effective.
That's what Democracy is. And I think
it's important, and I appreciate Lazaro
saying that.
I think you can also look at -- I
know in Broward, I'm sure it's in other
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counties too, they're faced with constant
issues about fairness in some of those
hearings. You know, in go forward with
recommendations and the like, they're much
farther behind us in terms of processing
cases. I bet the cost of their VAB
attorney is a lot more than us, for
example.
And that may be something I don't
think we get nearly as many requests for
reconsideration and issues down here,
which is a good thing.
Also, in terms of property
appraiser's cost per these, I'm a little
concerned, one, because, you know, Lazaro,
you know, Pedro, and, you know, some of
you guys, they do a lot of dual roles in a
way. You know, you're really not setup,
per se, to say somebody does purely VAB
cases, and somebody does purely
negotiating or purely land. It's a
challenge to do something like that, I
would think.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: We'll give it a
stab, see what we can do.
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MR. APPEL: I think, in general, we
don't say, well, we're not going to
prosecute a criminal or someone who we
think is a criminal, because it's going to
cost too much, you know.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, I think
more than anything, it's to look at -- I
mean, I think the criticism that's been,
you know, the inefficiencies or whatever,
how do you find a balance between the
resources you're allocating and your
output and then the quality of that
output.
MR. APPEL: And the last thing, when
you say you're signing everything, I think
what you also would agree with, it may be
a lot of money that comes out, but I know
more of a few percentage points, which
means you get about 96. My daughter is in
North Beach Elementary, got a 96, she'll
be going to hopefully Harvard on a
scholarship and may end up in Coleman
(phonetic). I hope not.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Would you give
us your name and address.
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MR. APPEL: Gary Appeal, live in
Miami Beach, offices at 4770 Biscayne
Boulevard.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Anything else
on Item VII?
Thank you, by the way.
MR. PUYANIC: I do have one more
thing.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Well, hold on
for a second.
So now I'm going to open it up to
some folks who I know wanted to speak.
Did any Board member have anything
else on Number VII?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I have
something really quick to sort of wrap
this all up.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: On Item VII?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: It
includes VII, just really quick, just tell
me if you agree.
I started putting together what we've
been talking about. There's a lot of
things that are coming back and I'm going
to help you. I'm not going to leave you
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all the extra work.
We were talking about sort of the
policies and procedures, so this is the
framework that I'm looking at.
Number 1, we'll do a general
description of what the VAB is and the
stakeholders, DOR rules, that type of
thing.
Number 2, then the policies and the
procedures of the Miami-Dade County VAB.
We'll get into the boards; we'll do the
definitions; we'll talk about how we think
magistrates, all that kind of good stuff.
Then they'll be a third section on
reporting, which, you know, goes to what
Mr. Alfaro was doing, you know, what is
our annual reporting and what is our
monthly reporting, right?
In the last three meetings, we've
established different types of monthly
reporting. I just need you to tell me
what that is, so that I can put it in
there. And that will be great for our
friends that are fiscally responsible in
Tallahassee.
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And then the fourth section will be
auditing. We just decided on an auditing
issue, so we'll mention the School Board.
And then finally public access and
documents, right? And that's where we're
sort of mentioning some of the IT stuff,
what we're doing with public documents,
what access people have. And then
whatever procedure we have, so that the
public can access VAB stuff.
Am I missing anything? Because I
think that puts everything together.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I think the
feedback component.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: People have a
complaint, how a complaint would be
handled; if they have issues, who they
need to address. I mean, I think you put
in there who are the stakeholders here,
and who are the players and who ought to
contact them. I think that needs to be
part of that, too.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
So then, Alfaro, you're going to work
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with me on the reporting and the feedback.
You know, the clerk we talked about
it a bunch of times, the documents -- I'll
mention something. We talked about we'll
keep it simple, because we haven't gotten
there yet.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Is there like
an annual report that we compile or
something of some sort?
MR. ALFARO: As far as the expenses?
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: No, of what
we've done. I mean, you can kind of say
the expenses or what we've heard. So I
think --
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Other
reports, put them together.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That's part of
the reporting process. And I think what
you also probably want to include, that
report needs to be sent to the Dade
Delegation, we'll include that in there,
and the County Commission.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: And all
the stakeholders.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: The School
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Board, the County Commission and the Dade
Delegation. We'll put the Dade Delegation
first, the Commission, then the School
Board.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: All
right.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I hope nobody
gets offended.
MR. BLANCO: Item VIII.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: So in VII,
we're all good then?
BOARD MEMBER REGALADO: Yes.
MR. PUYANIC: I just wanted to say --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I'm sorry?
MR. PUYANIC: I just wanted to say --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: What is your
name again.
MR. PUYANIC: Larry Puyanic again.
Knowing the VAB's cost to prosecute a
case, it's kind of irrelevant unless you
have, you know, to compare it to. I mean,
I don't think the other VABs from the
other 67 counties are throwing out these
numbers. And, you know, in a lot of
counties I'm sure it's $100 to prosecute.
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COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: That's the
point.
MR. PUYANIC: Unless you have, it's
all relative.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: But I think
it's good for us to, as a measuring stick
moving forward, and also the fact that
when they go up in Tallahassee and
somebody wants to defend them, we can say,
listen, we know what we're doing. And
they can challenge other legislators in
other parts of the state, challenge them
to be able to come up with the information
that we have.
So it's actually a tool that we could
use to kind of monitor, you know, our cost
and how things are going here. And then
also at the same time for folks who want
to defend the way we're doing things here
in Miami-Dade County.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You give
them tools.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You give them
tools and you give them numbers. The fact
their counties don't have numbers, but we
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do, you know, puts them on the defense.
Trust me, it's a good thing out there. We
need it.
So I have here Mr. Beck. I know you
wanted to speak.
MR. BECK: I have.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You have
spoken. Thank you very much. I
appreciate it.
Jack Schlosberg.
MR. SCHLOSBERG: No comment.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: You're all
good? It must have been a good meeting.
And, Mr. Aguirre.
MR. AGUIRRE: Mr. Chair, I don't have
anything to add.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Man, you guys
must have done something good to keep you
guys so quiet.
Anybody else wishing to speak?
Anybody like to add anything else?
Appreciate your time, and your
feedback and your comments.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Before
July 4th, you're going to circulate dates
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on it?
MR. BLANCO: We have VIII, the last
one.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: She's going to
give you suggestions and you're going to
draft it.
MR. BLANCO: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Just so we're
clear.
Anything else? All right, folks --
MR. ALFARO: Wait, VIII.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: VIII?
MR. BLANCO: VIII.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I thought we
were going to get away with that.
MR. ALFARO: You just asked that.
MR. BLANCO: "Approve and authorize
the publication of 2013 Tax Impact
Notice." And you all have --
MR. ALFARO: You have a copy.
MR. BLANCO: You have a copy of that,
I believe. It just takes a motion by the
Board.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Tax Impact
Notice.
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Is everybody good with this?
MR. DUARTE-VIERA: Yes, I move the
item.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Moved by Mr.
Duarte.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Oh, I was
going to ask a question.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: I'll second it.
Question, Ms. Regalado.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Yeah, no,
I mean, is there a differentiation between
what's done by the VAB, and what's done by
the property appraisers or is it all
lumped in together?
MR. SOLIS: It's separate.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Separate,
right, yeah.
MR. SOLIS: We have a separate
certification.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: You have
a separate one. Okay. Right. No, I was
just wondering.
MR. ALFARO: That's strictly a
special magistrate's recommendations.
What you see on the tax impact notice is a
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summary of every case that came to a
hearing, and reductions and denials.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right.
No, I understand.
My point was, it isn't a complete
picture, because you guys are doing stuff
on your end, too.
MR. GARCIA: Exactly.
MR. ALFARO: The only thing we show
on the tax impact statement is the number
of cases that were withdrawn or settled
with the property appraiser, but not
impact.
MR. SOLIS: We're certifying this
Friday.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: This
Friday.
In the future, can that be an
attachment to this?
MR. SOLIS: You can't.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Because
that would make more sense.
MR. SOLIS: I'm sorry, with all due
respect, the state requires the VAB
certifies first and then after the
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property appraiser.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Oh, okay.
All right.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Can't do it at
the same time?
MR. SOLIS: Our public information is
advertised. We would be more than happy
to pass along to the Board members our
final certification. The School Board
gets a letter. All tax authorities get a
letter.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: Right,
I've seen the letter. I guess my point
is, for public acces, I'm talking about if
someone were to pull this up, you're
missing a document.
MR. SOLIS: We are required by the
law to go through the same advertisement.
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: That's
fine. That was my only question.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Any other
questions, comments?
Name and address.
MR. AGUIRRE: Mr. Chair, I do have.
Alejandro Aguirre, 7504 Southwest 78
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Terrace, Miami, Florida.
At some point do these documents that
you're speaking about become public?
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: It should all
be public.
MR. AGUIRRE: And how would we --
MR. ALFARO: This is published in the
newspaper, in the Miami Herald, in a
couple of weeks.
MR. AGUIRRE: From now?
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: Are you talking
about the other documents?
MR. AGUIRRE: Well, I was thinking
about this one, but I was talking about in
general, because we listen to some of the
conversation --
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And we need to
do a better job in the next meeting of
getting this information to the Board
members beforehand.
MR. BLANCO: Three days beforehand.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: And let's make
sure we have copies for folks in the
public who also want to follow.
I had to have my aide to run out and
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make some copies, And I appreciate that,
but we should have copies for people who
want to kind of follow along of what we're
looking at.
MR. BLANCO: The only reason I didn't
do that is this was up for discussion.
COMMISSIONER ZAPATA: But, still, I
think, you know, at the end of the day,
I'd rather us be very transparent.
Point well taken. Thank you very
much.
All right, folks, anything else?
BOARD MEMBER MS. REGALADO: I just
posted on Twitter.
(Thereupon, at 12:10 p.m., the
meeting was adjourned).
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CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
I, Lorena Ramos, Registered Professional
Reporter and Notary Public, do hereby certify
that I was authorized to and did report the
foregoing proceedings, the Value Adjustment
Board meeting of the 27th day of May 2015; and
that the transcript, pages 1 through 122, is a
true and correct record of my stenographic
notes.
DATED this 8th day of June 2015, at
Miami-Dade County, Florida.
_____________________________
LORENA RAMOS, RPR
COURT REPORTER
Lorena Ramos
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beyond [1] - 11:22
bids [2] - 30:1, 30:2
bifurcate [2] - 10:21,
40:14
bifurcating [1] - 12:5
big [1] - 7:1
Biscayne [1] - 110:2
bit [10] - 41:12, 42:5,
47:1, 51:10, 59:12,
66:24, 71:10, 85:9,
95:19, 107:15
BLANCO [133] - 3:1,
3:22, 6:3, 6:8, 6:17,
7:6, 31:16, 32:12,
33:3, 35:8, 35:22,
36:7, 36:12, 36:17,
36:24, 37:6, 38:2,
38:7, 38:18, 39:7,
40:22, 41:18, 42:14,
42:21, 42:25, 46:16,
46:20, 47:9, 47:14,
47:19, 47:24, 48:17,
48:23, 49:14, 50:12,
56:18, 56:23, 57:4,
57:14, 57:21, 58:5,
58:7, 58:21, 59:9,
59:15, 60:1, 60:5,
60:10, 61:6, 61:9,
61:17, 61:24, 62:5,
62:22, 67:17, 68:13,
68:20, 68:25, 69:10,
69:25, 70:7, 70:15,
70:20, 70:23, 71:17,
71:21, 72:20, 73:6,
73:20, 74:9, 75:14,
76:8, 76:24, 77:10,
77:13, 77:20, 77:24,
78:2, 78:14, 79:2,
79:6, 79:19, 79:24,
80:1, 80:3, 80:5,
80:24, 81:18, 83:11,
83:16, 84:6, 84:10,
84:16, 85:19, 85:23,
86:1, 86:6, 86:24,
87:3, 87:9, 87:20,
88:2, 88:11, 88:16,
88:23, 89:4, 89:10,
89:19, 90:16, 91:18,
92:5, 93:8, 93:11,
95:1, 95:6, 95:24,
98:7, 99:15, 99:18,
100:5, 101:9,
102:13, 103:3,
103:10, 103:16,
114:9, 117:2, 117:7,
117:13, 117:17,
117:21, 121:21,
122:5
Blanco [7] - 1:16,
32:24, 50:6, 56:12,
81:11, 84:4, 84:12
blanks [1] - 50:22
blind [1] - 87:2
block [1] - 66:8
board [28] - 31:23,
34:11, 37:25, 46:13,
46:15, 46:19, 46:23,
46:24, 47:6, 49:24,
70:10, 74:8, 74:11,
74:19, 74:23, 76:5,
76:7, 76:8, 76:9,
76:14, 76:23, 81:2,
85:2, 87:19, 88:5,
102:14
BOARD [151] - 1:1,
1:5, 1:9, 3:20, 9:5,
9:8, 11:6, 11:9,
13:17, 15:16, 16:13,
17:2, 17:13, 17:17,
18:7, 18:21, 20:18,
21:10, 21:18, 22:3,
22:16, 22:20, 22:23,
23:3, 23:21, 25:2,
25:6, 25:25, 26:15,
27:14, 28:19, 31:13,
39:23, 40:6, 40:23,
41:23, 42:15, 43:6,
43:14, 43:17, 45:16,
45:20, 46:4, 46:8,
46:18, 46:21, 47:10,
47:16, 47:25, 48:4,
48:20, 49:3, 51:6,
51:8, 53:12, 53:16,
54:7, 55:22, 58:18,
59:16, 59:20, 60:3,
60:7, 60:14, 60:22,
60:24, 61:3, 61:7,
61:10, 61:21, 62:6,
62:25, 63:16, 65:4,
65:7, 66:20, 67:19,
68:6, 69:13, 69:18,
70:11, 71:2, 71:5,
71:12, 72:6, 72:12,
73:1, 73:10, 73:25,
74:7, 75:17, 75:21,
76:3, 76:10, 76:20,
78:21, 79:21, 80:9,
81:9, 81:20, 82:14,
83:1, 83:9, 83:19,
84:8, 84:25, 86:2,
86:16, 86:21, 87:12,
87:24, 89:24, 90:6,
90:18, 91:2, 93:6,
93:9, 93:13, 93:22,
94:13, 94:17, 95:11,
95:14, 96:17, 96:20,
97:14, 98:3, 98:9,
99:13, 99:16,
110:15, 110:19,
112:15, 112:24,
113:15, 113:23,
114:5, 114:12,
115:21, 116:24,
118:6, 118:10,
118:16, 118:20,
119:3, 119:16,
119:21, 120:2,
120:12, 120:19,
122:13
Board [64] - 1:12,
2:19, 2:20, 2:24, 3:2,
3:7, 3:9, 3:17, 4:3,
4:14, 5:3, 5:8, 5:11,
7:18, 11:13, 15:12,
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS, INC. (305) 373-5600
2
24:18, 26:12, 27:12,
27:22, 28:1, 31:22,
32:8, 33:7, 33:25,
35:4, 35:25, 37:22,
40:1, 42:11, 42:19,
50:25, 51:15, 51:22,
52:15, 52:20, 52:24,
53:20, 54:6, 54:16,
54:18, 66:6, 87:9,
91:20, 92:3, 92:22,
96:1, 96:3, 97:17,
97:18, 98:6, 98:24,
99:19, 102:24,
105:10, 110:13,
112:3, 114:1, 114:4,
117:23, 120:8,
120:9, 121:19, 123:9
Board's [1] - 100:8
Boards [2] - 2:12, 2:13
boards [40] - 31:18,
31:20, 32:1, 34:8,
38:16, 45:24, 46:1,
53:3, 53:6, 56:4,
56:6, 56:8, 56:13,
56:14, 57:10, 60:2,
60:4, 67:9, 73:8,
74:3, 74:5, 77:3,
77:4, 77:8, 77:9,
77:11, 77:17, 77:19,
80:20, 80:21, 81:13,
82:9, 82:20, 85:9,
85:17, 86:10,
102:10, 102:11,
105:8, 111:11
bolts [1] - 16:15
book [1] - 98:13
books [1] - 96:12
bottom [1] - 94:7
Boulevard [1] - 110:3
bracket [2] - 78:24,
82:4
bracketed [1] - 82:8
brainer [1] - 66:13
breach [1] - 24:8
break [5] - 44:23,
83:25, 100:25,
104:5, 105:19
breaking [1] - 20:9
bring [6] - 16:9, 26:11,
51:4, 75:11, 84:3,
88:20
bringing [3] - 15:11,
20:17, 66:22
brings [1] - 19:19
brought [8] - 11:13,
15:7, 37:14, 39:25,
78:17, 78:18, 97:16,
100:15
Broward [10] - 38:7,
38:21, 41:2, 63:10,
63:13, 100:22,
101:10, 101:17,
102:10, 107:25
Budget [1] - 26:9
budget [8] - 27:16,
27:17, 27:18, 28:13,
28:17, 29:4, 29:9,
30:5
bulk [4] - 61:18, 61:20,
62:19, 104:3
bunch [2] - 61:25,
113:3
business [2] - 2:23,
21:21
C
Cabo [1] - 60:18
calculating [1] - 103:8
cannot [3] - 40:18,
63:23, 90:13
care [2] - 20:13, 31:12
carried [1] - 13:14
case [14] - 2:22, 29:17,
69:4, 100:8, 100:20,
101:12, 101:23,
105:20, 106:4,
106:9, 106:18,
106:19, 114:20,
119:1
caseload [2] - 57:2,
57:18
cases [29] - 5:7, 10:14,
37:1, 37:9, 43:25,
44:3, 44:7, 44:15,
44:22, 45:5, 56:16,
65:2, 67:11, 70:16,
90:11, 90:12, 90:17,
100:19, 101:3,
101:4, 101:11,
102:12, 102:15,
103:17, 105:25,
106:5, 108:6,
108:20, 119:11
catch [1] - 80:6
catchall [1] - 76:21
category [1] - 77:17
caution [1] - 102:24
cautious [1] - 105:2
certain [1] - 49:19
CERTIFICATE [1] -
123:2
certificate [1] - 6:15
certification [6] - 2:5,
3:13, 4:1, 6:4,
118:19, 120:9
certified [3] - 2:6, 6:6,
44:23
certifies [1] - 119:25
certify [1] - 123:6
certifying [1] - 119:14
cetera [3] - 32:19,
86:12
Chair [13] - 3:1, 15:17,
23:9, 31:21, 32:21,
43:15, 52:12, 59:18,
78:17, 99:24,
105:16, 116:15,
120:24
chair [1] - 13:20
Chairman [16] - 1:11,
3:8, 5:6, 5:21, 7:12,
18:24, 19:18, 20:17,
25:20, 38:6, 43:11,
79:16, 91:7, 92:23,
93:5, 96:4
CHAIRMAN [1] - 5:22
challenge [3] -
108:22, 115:11,
115:12
change [12] - 10:25,
20:4, 20:9, 33:16,
51:16, 52:25, 67:3,
70:6, 79:17, 81:24,
85:14, 107:5
changed [1] - 79:23
changes [1] - 83:12
changing [2] - 81:6,
87:15
charged [1] - 27:21
check [2] - 23:10, 29:8
circuit [10] - 35:9,
35:18, 35:19, 35:23,
36:9, 36:18, 36:25,
37:3, 37:10, 64:25
circulate [1] - 116:25
citizen [2] - 3:11, 35:5
citizens [2] - 41:17,
49:24
clarification [3] - 25:7,
46:9, 47:2
clarify [4] - 19:1,
72:11, 72:13, 72:25
clarity [3] - 78:23,
91:25, 94:9
classified [4] - 44:1,
44:13, 45:6, 90:12
cleaner [1] - 25:18
clear [14] - 7:21, 8:20,
19:19, 37:15, 50:23,
79:10, 81:22, 92:18,
93:1, 99:1, 99:2,
99:3, 99:17, 117:9
cleared [1] - 56:16
clearly [2] - 50:2,
50:15
CLERK [1] - 1:1
clerk [3] - 8:15, 72:21,
113:2
Clerk [4] - 1:25, 3:5,
8:14, 19:8
clerk's [2] - 15:10,
57:23
Clerk's [4] - 7:24,
26:4, 26:7, 35:25
client's [1] - 31:6
clients [1] - 31:3
closes [1] - 27:17
cloud [11] - 10:7,
12:12, 13:3, 14:25,
16:18, 16:25, 17:15,
18:12, 20:10, 20:20
clouds [1] - 25:23
codification [3] - 2:19,
32:7, 95:25
codify [1] - 98:4
Coleman [1] - 109:22
collaboration [1] -
26:4
collapsed [1] - 22:14
colleagues [3] - 8:18,
37:22, 38:5
Collector's [1] - 26:10
coming [4] - 23:14,
33:9, 55:9, 110:24
command [2] - 58:15,
79:25
comment [5] - 23:20,
30:14, 31:10, 80:13,
116:11
comments [9] - 5:15,
6:14, 8:19, 26:19,
80:7, 91:4, 91:11,
116:23, 120:22
commercial [15] -
44:2, 44:13, 45:3,
71:8, 73:5, 73:13,
73:24, 75:8, 77:4,
77:14, 77:23, 101:1,
103:8, 104:21,
105:10
commercial/
residential [1] - 77:5
Commission [4] - 1:1,
113:22, 114:1, 114:3
commissioner [1] -
100:11
COMMISSIONER [321]
- 3:19, 5:14, 5:20,
5:24, 6:7, 6:9, 6:12,
6:19, 6:21, 6:23, 7:1,
7:12, 7:14, 7:16, 9:4,
9:7, 11:4, 11:7,
13:15, 13:21, 15:18,
17:1, 17:4, 17:9,
17:14, 17:18, 18:17,
18:24, 18:25, 19:1,
20:23, 21:3, 21:5,
21:12, 21:20, 21:24,
22:1, 22:7, 22:18,
22:22, 22:25, 23:5,
23:13, 23:16, 23:22,
24:20, 24:22, 25:4,
25:19, 26:2, 26:14,
26:16, 26:18, 26:22,
26:24, 27:4, 27:7,
28:12, 29:3, 29:7,
29:18, 29:22, 30:4,
30:7, 30:9, 30:15,
30:18, 30:22, 30:25,
31:11, 31:15, 32:10,
32:20, 32:21, 32:22,
32:24, 33:6, 33:13,
33:15, 35:20, 36:5,
36:10, 36:14, 36:20,
37:2, 37:12, 38:3,
38:15, 39:3, 39:13,
39:16, 39:17, 40:4,
41:10, 41:19, 42:17,
42:22, 43:1, 43:3,
43:4, 43:8, 43:12,
43:16, 45:13, 45:17,
45:22, 46:5, 47:22,
48:2, 48:13, 48:18,
48:22, 49:5, 49:6,
49:8, 49:10, 49:15,
49:18, 49:19, 50:13,
51:7, 52:13, 53:11,
53:15, 54:3, 54:8,
55:6, 55:16, 55:20,
55:24, 56:1, 56:3,
56:5, 56:7, 56:10,
56:21, 57:1, 57:9,
57:16, 57:25, 58:9,
58:20, 58:23, 59:10,
59:19, 60:20, 60:23,
61:1, 61:4, 61:20,
62:3, 62:17, 62:23,
63:3, 63:7, 63:11,
64:10, 65:6, 65:25,
66:1, 66:14, 66:21,
67:22, 68:1, 68:4,
68:16, 68:18, 68:22,
69:9, 69:15, 70:5,
70:18, 70:21, 70:25,
71:1, 71:3, 71:11,
71:14, 71:19, 71:22,
71:24, 72:1, 72:3,
72:5, 72:10, 72:18,
72:24, 73:18, 73:22,
74:2, 74:10, 74:15,
75:9, 75:20, 75:23,
76:1, 77:7, 77:12,
77:16, 77:22, 77:25,
78:3, 78:11, 78:16,
78:22, 79:4, 79:8,
79:25, 80:2, 80:4,
80:6, 80:11, 80:22,
82:1, 82:3, 82:17,
83:3, 83:4, 83:5,
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS, INC. (305) 373-5600
3
83:7, 83:14, 83:22,
83:24, 84:1, 84:12,
84:14, 84:20, 85:21,
85:25, 86:14, 86:19,
86:23, 87:1, 87:6,
88:9, 88:13, 88:18,
88:24, 89:6, 89:14,
89:21, 90:1, 90:22,
91:3, 91:7, 91:10,
91:12, 91:19, 92:6,
93:16, 93:18, 93:20,
93:24, 94:6, 94:15,
94:21, 95:3, 95:8,
95:13, 95:16, 96:19,
97:13, 98:1, 98:5,
98:11, 99:21,
100:24, 101:13,
101:17, 101:25,
102:4, 102:17,
103:6, 103:12,
103:18, 103:23,
104:4, 104:8,
104:15, 105:4,
105:13, 105:17,
106:3, 106:11,
106:18, 108:24,
109:6, 109:24,
110:4, 110:9,
110:18, 112:13,
112:16, 113:7,
113:11, 113:17,
113:25, 114:7,
114:10, 114:14,
114:16, 115:1,
115:5, 115:23,
116:7, 116:12,
116:17, 117:4,
117:8, 117:12,
117:14, 117:24,
118:4, 118:8, 120:4,
120:21, 121:4,
121:11, 121:17,
121:22, 122:7
Commissioner [10] -
1:11, 1:11, 3:8, 7:15,
9:13, 13:12, 32:22,
55:5, 75:22, 83:2
COMMISSIONERS [1]
- 1:1
commitment [1] -
28:24
committee [7] - 16:5,
16:6, 16:17, 24:17,
25:24, 26:6, 40:2
community [1] - 40:13
commuters [3] -
38:20, 38:23
compare [3] - 64:24,
103:11, 114:21
competence [1] - 65:1
compile [1] - 113:8
complaint [4] - 2:17,
32:18, 112:17
complaints [4] -
64:21, 66:12, 67:7,
104:19
complete [5] - 11:14,
44:12, 50:20, 70:15,
119:5
completed [1] - 43:22
completely [2] - 40:9,
40:15
complex [1] - 64:5
complexity [2] -
65:20, 68:9
compliance [1] - 4:8
compliant [3] - 42:4,
68:15, 69:7
comply [1] - 73:16
complying [1] - 76:16
component [3] -
55:18, 107:7, 112:14
composition [2] -
16:5, 16:16
comprehensive [1] -
81:17
comprises [1] - 61:16
computer [3] - 69:21,
70:8, 70:17
concept [1] - 14:25
concern [6] - 9:13,
14:12, 15:2, 19:25,
21:13, 105:24
concerned [1] -
108:15
conclusion [2] - 45:7,
102:9
concrete [1] - 15:25
Condensed [1] - 2:12
condensed [43] -
31:23, 45:24, 46:1,
46:23, 46:24, 47:5,
53:3, 53:6, 56:4,
56:6, 56:8, 56:14,
57:10, 60:2, 60:4,
62:21, 67:8, 70:10,
73:3, 73:4, 74:5,
74:8, 74:11, 74:14,
74:23, 76:6, 77:18,
77:21, 77:23, 78:6,
78:7, 78:15, 79:2,
80:20, 81:3, 81:13,
82:9, 82:10, 82:21,
85:2, 85:9, 86:10,
87:19
condition [1] - 53:5
condos [1] - 64:6
conduct [2] - 98:6,
99:3
conducting [1] - 14:6
Conference [1] - 1:1
confidential [2] -
13:24, 14:17
conflict [1] - 96:11
confuse [1] - 76:12
connect [1] - 25:11
consensus [1] - 32:8
consider [10] - 11:17,
17:24, 20:19, 22:24,
23:4, 24:17, 51:12,
65:23, 85:13, 89:10
consideration [7] -
4:25, 20:22, 42:11,
42:16, 65:18, 68:7,
69:12
Consideration [1] -
2:2
considering [2] - 23:2,
89:16
constant [1] - 108:1
constitutional [1] -
54:1
consumption [1] -
14:11
contact [1] - 112:22
continue [6] - 24:9,
24:10, 36:11, 36:12,
52:9, 84:4
continuous [4] -
59:23, 60:25, 61:2,
61:9
contract [14] - 18:22,
21:19, 21:21, 22:4,
22:6, 22:10, 22:15,
24:7, 24:8, 28:1,
85:23, 97:15, 97:18,
97:22
conversation [8] -
11:22, 12:12, 12:19,
13:5, 17:11, 29:4,
88:19, 121:16
conversations [1] -
28:13
coordinate [1] - 48:24
copies [4] - 63:4,
121:23, 122:1, 122:2
copy [3] - 31:5,
117:20, 117:21
Coral [2] - 30:23,
38:22
correct [15] - 17:6,
26:12, 35:14, 36:13,
36:18, 40:22, 41:18,
42:14, 48:17, 58:5,
59:15, 95:13,
100:10, 105:6,
123:11
corrected [1] - 35:15
cost [21] - 2:22, 28:10,
29:15, 37:11, 100:8,
100:12, 100:20,
104:14, 104:17,
105:7, 105:11,
106:3, 106:14,
106:19, 106:23,
107:20, 108:6,
108:14, 109:5,
114:19, 115:16
costs [3] - 27:20,
27:23, 28:7
counties [6] - 38:10,
98:16, 108:1,
114:23, 114:25,
115:25
COUNTY [2] - 1:1,
1:19
county [1] - 40:19
County [52] - 1:20,
3:4, 7:24, 16:21,
18:9, 18:13, 20:20,
20:21, 23:25, 24:14,
25:15, 27:21, 34:4,
34:5, 34:6, 34:19,
37:24, 38:7, 38:13,
38:14, 38:22, 39:1,
39:11, 39:21, 40:3,
41:5, 41:8, 42:7,
42:8, 42:10, 42:23,
43:2, 61:14, 61:19,
62:2, 62:13, 63:10,
63:22, 65:20, 65:21,
66:8, 68:8, 79:3,
97:19, 100:22,
101:10, 111:10,
113:22, 114:1,
115:20, 123:15
County's [3] - 17:6,
18:19, 21:7
couple [2] - 104:25,
121:9
COURT [2] - 23:7,
123:22
court [9] - 35:9, 35:18,
35:19, 35:24, 36:9,
36:18, 36:25, 37:10,
64:25
Courts [1] - 1:25
courts [1] - 8:15
cover [1] - 45:9
covers [1] - 79:1
create [7] - 46:6,
49:21, 53:8, 74:22,
87:7, 96:10, 106:13
creating [6] - 16:4,
66:25, 85:5, 86:20,
90:4, 90:23
credibility [1] - 94:10
criminal [2] - 109:3,
109:4
criteria [4] - 15:13,
64:11, 69:19, 75:1
criticism [1] - 109:8
current [1] - 69:21
cut [1] - 22:10
D
Dade [31] - 34:3, 34:5,
34:6, 37:23, 38:22,
39:11, 39:21, 41:4,
41:8, 42:7, 42:8,
42:10, 42:23, 43:2,
61:14, 61:19, 62:1,
62:13, 63:22, 65:19,
65:21, 66:8, 68:8,
79:3, 97:19, 111:10,
113:20, 114:1,
114:2, 115:20,
123:15
daily [1] - 8:24
data [3] - 24:6, 24:12,
97:5
DATED [1] - 123:14
dates [1] - 116:25
daughter [1] - 109:19
day-to-day [1] - 23:23
days [13] - 27:3, 27:7,
27:9, 33:17, 44:4,
55:14, 57:19, 57:20,
93:7, 93:8, 93:10,
93:12, 121:21
deal [3] - 45:22, 56:17,
57:10
dealing [3] - 55:12,
55:18, 97:4
deals [1] - 56:8
decide [4] - 4:18,
16:24, 42:11, 52:24
decided [3] - 38:19,
51:23, 112:2
decides [2] - 35:13,
57:20
decision [6] - 10:4,
35:7, 35:17, 36:3,
36:16, 37:5
decisions [5] - 2:3,
5:2, 5:11, 34:24,
92:17
defend [2] - 115:9,
115:19
defense [1] - 116:1
define [6] - 65:10,
65:14, 65:16, 78:4,
78:20, 78:25
defined [4] - 50:2,
50:15, 82:7, 82:16
defining [1] - 82:6
definition [11] - 31:23,
32:4, 46:12, 46:14,
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46:22, 56:4, 76:4,
76:6, 76:18, 78:23,
85:2
definitions [5] - 50:16,
52:19, 53:4, 65:9,
111:12
definitive [1] - 96:6
Delegation [3] -
113:21, 114:2
Democracy [1] -
107:21
demonstrate [2] -
61:13, 94:18
demonstrated [1] -
66:9
demonstration [2] -
62:11, 65:17
denials [1] - 119:2
deposited [1] - 20:25
Deputy [1] - 3:5
description [1] - 111:6
desire [1] - 36:9
detail [1] - 15:6
determination [2] -
2:22, 100:7
determine [1] - 69:23
determined [2] -
27:25, 61:15
determining [1] -
65:24
develop [1] - 26:3
developing [2] - 2:15,
32:14
devil's [1] - 23:1
Diaz [6] - 1:11, 3:18,
7:15, 18:25, 32:23,
55:5
DIAZ [105] - 3:19, 5:20,
6:7, 6:19, 6:23, 7:12,
7:16, 11:4, 11:7,
18:24, 19:1, 21:3,
21:24, 23:13, 24:20,
25:19, 26:14, 26:16,
26:22, 27:4, 29:18,
29:22, 30:7, 32:21,
32:24, 33:6, 33:15,
35:20, 36:5, 36:10,
36:14, 36:20, 37:2,
37:12, 38:3, 38:15,
39:16, 40:4, 41:10,
41:19, 42:17, 43:3,
43:8, 48:13, 48:18,
48:22, 49:5, 49:8,
49:18, 55:6, 55:20,
56:1, 56:5, 56:10,
56:21, 57:1, 57:9,
57:16, 57:25, 58:9,
58:20, 58:23, 59:10,
66:1, 68:1, 68:4,
68:18, 68:22, 69:9,
69:15, 70:5, 71:1,
71:3, 71:14, 71:24,
72:3, 77:7, 77:12,
77:16, 77:22, 77:25,
78:3, 78:11, 78:16,
78:22, 79:25, 82:3,
82:17, 83:3, 83:5,
83:24, 84:14, 85:21,
85:25, 86:14, 88:9,
88:24, 89:6, 91:7,
91:12, 91:19, 92:6,
93:16, 93:20, 93:24
Diaz's [1] - 9:13
dictate [1] - 52:10
difference [2] - 48:7,
48:8
different [14] - 15:12,
15:14, 20:24, 40:10,
40:16, 54:4, 57:21,
72:8, 82:8, 82:20,
97:6, 103:13,
106:17, 111:20
differentiation [1] -
118:11
differently [1] - 9:15
difficult [2] - 33:12,
105:8
direct [4] - 16:23,
17:25, 26:3, 98:4
directing [2] - 2:10,
7:9
director [2] - 28:14,
29:5
Director [1] - 17:12
disagree [1] - 36:4
discretion [3] - 59:7,
87:8, 87:10
discriminate [1] -
42:19
discriminating [1] -
40:11
discrimination [1] -
42:13
discriminatory [2] -
85:22, 87:5
discussed [8] - 4:4,
29:11, 32:4, 69:16,
80:23, 80:24, 86:19,
86:25
discussion [17] - 2:12,
2:14, 2:18, 4:10,
31:17, 32:12, 33:25,
37:18, 60:13, 88:25,
90:3, 90:5, 90:7,
94:7, 94:16, 95:25,
122:6
Discussion [2] - 2:21,
100:5
disputed [1] - 65:2
distinction [1] - 71:8
distinguish [2] -
46:23, 105:9
district [1] - 97:3
divide [2] - 45:5, 90:10
divided [1] - 100:19
dividends [1] - 99:12
DIVISION [1] - 1:5
doable [3] - 24:6,
24:20, 103:21
document [7] - 9:10,
9:24, 10:19, 12:21,
14:24, 47:11, 120:16
documents [22] -
9:18, 9:19, 9:22,
10:1, 10:3, 10:5,
10:13, 12:6, 12:17,
14:10, 18:12, 24:2,
24:15, 25:13, 96:25,
97:7, 112:5, 112:7,
113:3, 121:2, 121:12
domain [2] - 12:22,
12:23
dominion [1] - 7:25
done [26] - 8:9, 18:15,
19:21, 23:25, 24:13,
34:20, 42:8, 54:9,
54:22, 58:25, 65:19,
65:20, 67:13, 74:9,
83:21, 88:7, 88:11,
88:12, 89:3, 89:4,
89:6, 94:19, 113:12,
116:18, 118:12
DOR [6] - 38:9, 38:18,
54:13, 96:5, 96:9,
111:7
double [2] - 29:8,
89:12
double-check [1] -
29:8
doubt [1] - 54:11
down [8] - 8:2, 8:17,
42:5, 44:24, 99:22,
99:23, 104:6, 108:11
draft [1] - 117:6
dragged [1] - 67:15
dramatically [1] -
105:25
drill [1] - 42:5
drop [2] - 105:25,
106:6
dual [1] - 108:17
DUARTE [12] - 5:23,
6:11, 23:9, 62:21,
79:16, 79:20, 79:22,
105:16, 105:18,
105:24, 106:5, 118:2
Duarte [3] - 1:12, 3:10,
118:5
DUARTE-VIERA [12] -
5:23, 6:11, 23:9,
62:21, 79:16, 79:20,
79:22, 105:16,
105:18, 105:24,
106:5, 118:2
Duarte-Viera [2] -
1:12, 3:10
due [5] - 19:15, 30:2,
91:22, 103:3, 119:23
dumping [1] - 13:3
duplicating [1] - 12:14
during [4] - 4:19,
10:22, 20:19, 83:24
E
early [1] - 87:22
ease [1] - 13:23
easier [7] - 10:16,
25:11, 25:14, 60:16,
92:13, 95:6, 97:11
effective [2] - 37:11,
107:20
efficiency [2] - 2:15,
32:14
efficient [3] - 102:21,
104:25, 107:3
eight [1] - 89:11
either [5] - 14:21,
49:14, 49:17, 77:20,
82:11
Elementary [1] -
109:20
elimination [2] -
11:14, 13:6
email [1] - 75:18
emergency [1] - 23:11
emphasis [1] - 104:23
employ [1] - 40:18
employed [1] - 58:8
employment [4] -
40:9, 40:13, 40:18,
42:12
end [15] - 4:20, 29:1,
36:15, 49:12, 73:7,
73:15, 74:1, 74:3,
74:19, 76:15, 99:11,
99:12, 109:22,
119:7, 122:8
ends [1] - 49:22
engagement [1] - 91:8
ensure [2] - 52:8, 86:3
enter [1] - 18:22
entering [2] - 97:18,
97:21
entire [2] - 44:6, 44:9
entities [2] - 19:8,
19:20
entity [2] - 34:12,
34:15
enumeration [1] -
72:9
Esq [2] - 1:16, 96:6
essence [1] - 52:22
establish [9] - 2:22,
11:24, 46:11, 51:12,
54:24, 75:1, 86:3,
95:20, 100:6
established [2] -
51:18, 111:20
establishment [2] -
51:14, 81:10
Esteve [1] - 1:20
estimate [1] - 28:21
et [3] - 32:19, 86:11
etc [3] - 2:17, 81:7
evaluation [1] - 65:1
eventually [1] - 89:7
evidence [2] - 10:2,
64:1
exact [1] - 27:2
exactly [4] - 40:7,
47:2, 57:6, 119:8
example [4] - 6:5,
44:22, 96:14, 108:8
exception [1] - 52:1
exclude [1] - 38:10
excuse [1] - 42:25
execute [1] - 53:9
exercise [1] - 103:19
existing [2] - 73:14,
96:11
expecting [1] - 96:21
expedite [5] - 8:9,
25:21, 59:4, 97:9,
104:24
expediting [4] - 37:16,
57:11, 59:2, 103:2
expense [1] - 14:1
expenses [15] - 2:19,
96:2, 98:6, 100:16,
100:18, 101:15,
101:18, 102:1,
102:5, 102:7, 103:9,
104:1, 104:3,
113:10, 113:13
experience [21] - 2:16,
2:17, 32:16, 32:17,
39:20, 59:22, 60:6,
60:25, 61:2, 61:8,
64:2, 67:17, 68:3,
68:5, 68:7, 68:9,
85:12, 85:13, 89:1,
89:2, 89:7
experienced [4] -
85:16, 86:9, 86:11,
87:2
experiencing [1] -
64:20
explain [4] - 46:24,
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48:3, 72:7, 72:15
explains [1] - 73:17
explanation [2] -
48:10, 48:11
explanations [1] -
82:24
extra [3] - 45:9, 99:9,
111:1
F
face [1] - 83:6
faced [1] - 108:1
facilitate [1] - 10:9
facility [1] - 23:25
fact [6] - 27:22, 51:18,
79:11, 94:8, 115:7,
115:24
factors [2] - 31:24,
65:22
fails [2] - 21:16, 24:7
failure [1] - 21:22
fair [2] - 11:21, 44:15
fairness [1] - 108:2
fall [2] - 22:2, 77:17
falls [4] - 76:19, 76:22,
77:23, 82:5
family [1] - 77:15
far [2] - 20:10, 113:10
fast [5] - 8:6, 25:21,
36:6, 36:8, 37:17
faster [5] - 8:11,
25:12, 25:17, 57:11,
92:14
fault [2] - 67:15, 67:16
fee [3] - 85:25, 86:1,
88:9
feedback [4] - 107:11,
112:14, 113:1,
116:23
few [5] - 42:2, 59:17,
67:20, 98:17, 109:18
filed [1] - 45:10
files [1] - 35:23
fill [2] - 50:11, 50:21
final [8] - 5:10, 6:4,
28:25, 32:4, 75:12,
83:10, 83:11, 120:9
Final [1] - 2:5
finally [1] - 112:4
fine [15] - 6:18, 16:15,
20:15, 24:23, 24:24,
46:25, 48:12, 54:15,
70:22, 71:13, 79:15,
80:11, 84:4, 120:20
finish [8] - 6:17,
55:23, 55:24, 64:22,
70:9, 89:11, 93:4,
93:14
fire [1] - 87:18
Firewall [3] - 7:23,
8:21, 14:9
first [7] - 3:24, 3:25,
32:24, 39:1, 91:23,
114:3, 119:25
fiscal [4] - 27:24, 28:3,
28:8
fiscally [1] - 111:24
fit [2] - 28:15, 28:16
five [2] - 3:7, 29:13
fixes [1] - 75:11
flat [3] - 85:25, 86:1,
88:9
Florida [3] - 30:24,
121:1, 123:15
focus [2] - 69:20
folios [2] - 2:4, 5:4
folks [9] - 62:20,
88:22, 95:5, 105:5,
110:12, 115:18,
117:10, 121:23,
122:12
follow [7] - 3:14, 4:23,
13:19, 18:3, 93:1,
121:24, 122:3
follow-up [1] - 3:14
following [1] - 68:23
Fontainebleau [1] -
64:8
forced [1] - 104:12
foregoing [1] - 123:8
foremost [2] - 32:25,
39:2
forget [1] - 83:6
form [11] - 52:16,
52:21, 52:22, 52:25,
53:1, 53:8, 53:23,
54:25, 55:1, 55:3,
82:23
formalize [1] - 49:4
formula [3] - 44:21,
45:1, 90:24
forth [3] - 25:21,
34:25, 75:19
forward [17] - 16:4,
24:10, 30:6, 50:14,
53:8, 66:15, 67:4,
79:13, 82:25, 91:25,
92:22, 92:25, 94:16,
99:5, 106:12, 108:3,
115:7
four [6] - 3:6, 4:12,
67:12, 89:12,
100:23, 101:11
four-hour [1] - 67:12
fourth [1] - 112:1
framework [1] - 111:4
freedom [1] - 30:1
Friday [2] - 119:15,
119:17
friend [1] - 92:10
friends [1] - 111:24
front [2] - 11:12, 99:11
full [2] - 31:22, 81:3
function [1] - 50:21
functioned [1] - 66:17
future [6] - 49:23,
51:3, 51:4, 66:23,
67:1, 119:18
G
G-1A3 [1] - 4:8
Gables [2] - 30:24,
38:22
game [1] - 11:21
gaps [1] - 50:11
GARCIA [4] - 39:9,
68:11, 75:25, 119:8
Garcia [1] - 1:23
Gary [1] - 110:1
gauge [1] - 70:12
general [4] - 88:16,
109:1, 111:5, 121:15
generation [1] - 97:5
geography [2] - 72:19,
73:19
given [2] - 69:9, 69:10
glad [1] - 96:22
goal [3] - 41:15, 105:2
govern [1] - 50:4
governing [1] - 54:14
government [3] - 4:7,
34:12, 34:22
graduate [1] - 63:15
graph [2] - 82:23,
92:19
gray [1] - 54:21
great [4] - 79:14, 88:8,
96:21, 111:23
greatest [1] - 94:12
grief [1] - 97:25
group [1] - 20:11
grow [1] - 106:1
guarantee [2] - 22:7,
98:16
guess [3] - 41:15,
82:2, 120:13
guidance [3] - 94:1,
94:3, 94:4
guy [2] - 31:5, 69:6
guys [15] - 16:2, 16:9,
26:20, 26:25, 31:4,
67:2, 73:18, 83:17,
106:21, 107:11,
107:12, 108:17,
116:17, 116:19,
119:6
H
hack [2] - 10:24, 21:23
hacked [2] - 8:25,
11:20
hacker [1] - 22:13
hacking [2] - 14:13,
20:3
hand [1] - 91:23
handed [2] - 13:13,
100:12
handle [5] - 17:22,
46:7, 64:8, 70:23,
86:9
handled [5] - 44:4,
44:7, 44:16, 44:18,
112:18
hands [1] - 25:1
Hani [3] - 1:13, 3:10,
92:10
happy [2] - 58:18,
120:7
hard [2] - 73:2, 104:6
Hardee [1] - 30:23
Harvard [1] - 109:21
hate [1] - 22:4
headed [1] - 29:17
hear [1] - 5:7
heard [3] - 8:24, 43:3,
113:13
hearing [7] - 14:7,
14:21, 31:2, 65:2,
84:18, 102:12, 119:2
hearings [5] - 2:7,
30:17, 31:9, 32:6,
108:3
held [3] - 2:7, 3:15,
14:2
help [8] - 39:21, 41:17,
69:3, 69:6, 92:21,
94:10, 98:19, 110:25
helpful [2] - 106:25,
107:17
helps [1] - 94:15
Herald [1] - 121:8
hereby [1] - 123:6
hierarchy [1] - 85:5
High [1] - 63:15
high [1] - 79:6
himself [1] - 64:14
hire [1] - 69:5
hires [1] - 69:3
hiring [1] - 31:25
historically [1] - 16:21
hit [1] - 8:23
hodgepodge [1] -
73:9
hold [3] - 14:18,
102:11, 110:9
hole [1] - 18:6
homogenous [2] -
73:20, 73:23
honestly [1] - 93:25
honor [1] - 95:4
honoree [1] - 63:17
hope [2] - 109:23,
114:7
hopefully [1] - 109:21
Hotel [1] - 64:8
hour [2] - 67:12, 89:12
hourly [1] - 89:11
hours [3] - 44:18,
89:11, 89:12
house [1] - 43:4
housed [2] - 17:5,
17:10
huge [1] - 37:6
hum [1] - 77:12
humongous [1] - 37:8
hypotheticals [1] -
16:1
I
i.e [1] - 2:5
idea [16] - 12:5, 16:24,
25:10, 28:2, 28:9,
46:14, 48:5, 50:24,
62:6, 65:10, 77:6,
81:16, 85:4, 86:5,
97:10, 106:14
ideas [1] - 88:15
identification [1] -
11:25
II [2] - 2:5, 6:4
III [2] - 2:9, 7:6
Impact [3] - 2:25,
117:18, 117:24
impact [6] - 24:14,
27:24, 28:3, 118:25,
119:10, 119:13
implement [1] - 28:6
implies [1] - 75:4
importance [1] - 8:5
important [11] - 39:2,
44:11, 49:11, 49:21,
50:14, 54:11, 92:2,
98:23, 104:18,
107:8, 107:22
impossible [1] - 69:5
improve [1] - 57:19
improved [1] - 41:11
improvement [1] -
41:13
inaudible) [1] - 80:16
incentive [6] - 85:3,
87:17, 87:21, 88:4,
88:8, 90:19
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incentives [4] - 2:12,
31:17, 85:1, 87:13
include [11] - 2:16,
26:6, 32:9, 32:15,
101:18, 102:1,
102:2, 102:6,
104:12, 113:19,
113:21
included [3] - 46:10,
100:18, 104:1
includes [1] - 110:20
including [6] - 2:13,
25:23, 31:18,
100:16, 101:4,
101:14
income [2] - 14:1,
14:2
incorporate [1] -
73:19
incorporated [1] -
89:20
incorporating [1] -
17:22
increasing [1] - 59:8
incur [1] - 105:11
independence [1] -
92:2
independent [4] -
8:10, 21:14, 34:11,
34:15
indicate [1] - 96:7
indicating) [1] - 84:19
industrial [2] - 44:14,
77:13
inefficiencies [1] -
109:9
information [35] -
10:25, 12:2, 13:25,
14:1, 14:5, 14:7,
14:10, 14:17, 14:20,
15:1, 19:13, 20:1,
20:4, 20:8, 20:25,
22:12, 22:14, 24:12,
25:16, 33:10, 37:13,
43:21, 44:11, 44:25,
45:6, 45:12, 45:14,
45:19, 46:2, 92:12,
92:13, 115:13,
120:6, 121:19
infrastructure [6] -
17:6, 18:10, 18:19,
21:2, 21:8, 24:1
inner [1] - 19:7
input [5] - 11:3, 16:19,
19:23, 70:13
inputting [1] - 9:24
inside [1] - 27:16
instance [2] - 87:21,
102:14
instances [1] - 64:21
instead [1] - 92:7
instruct [1] - 52:15
intense [1] - 32:25
intent [3] - 8:20, 8:21,
9:2
interfere [1] - 96:13
INTERGOVERNMEN
TAL [1] - 1:5
internal [2] - 51:12,
107:10
internally [1] - 97:23
interrupt [3] - 55:17,
87:14, 88:10
intimate [2] - 38:12,
39:20
investment [1] - 99:10
involved [2] - 15:10,
19:9
irrelevant [1] - 114:20
IRS [1] - 8:25
isolate [1] - 105:23
isolated [1] - 14:4
issue [9] - 20:7, 30:3,
35:1, 37:23, 55:14,
58:20, 84:3, 92:6,
112:3
issues [9] - 23:10,
23:11, 91:22, 92:9,
94:12, 103:3, 108:2,
108:11, 112:18
IT [5] - 7:19, 17:6,
17:12, 23:18, 112:6
it) [1] - 100:3
ITD [1] - 26:9
Item [19] - 5:14, 7:6,
31:16, 32:2, 45:23,
46:3, 56:4, 56:9,
84:22, 84:23, 89:17,
95:9, 95:22, 95:24,
100:4, 100:5, 110:5,
110:18, 114:9
ITEM [1] - 2:1
item [18] - 2:9, 4:19,
5:13, 6:1, 7:4, 7:6,
7:13, 15:19, 30:10,
30:12, 31:15, 43:11,
79:20, 88:19, 88:21,
91:13, 97:16, 118:3
Items [2] - 32:11,
79:17
items [7] - 3:24, 3:25,
4:2, 4:10, 43:20,
91:11
IV [19] - 2:12, 31:16,
32:11, 45:23, 46:7,
55:25, 56:4, 71:1,
71:2, 71:11, 71:12,
71:20, 71:23, 79:17,
79:20, 80:4, 84:22,
89:20, 95:15
iV [2] - 71:17, 71:19
J
jack [2] - 4:15, 116:10
Jardack [7] - 1:13,
3:10, 43:13, 80:7,
84:23, 89:22, 95:16
JARDACK [11] -
23:21, 43:14, 43:17,
45:16, 45:20, 46:4,
80:9, 89:24, 90:6,
90:18, 91:2
job [3] - 46:9, 66:18,
121:18
Jorge [1] - 1:20
Jose [1] - 1:11
Juan [4] - 1:11, 34:11,
51:9, 52:6
judge [1] - 36:19
judges [1] - 64:25
judgment [3] - 64:19,
64:23, 65:13
July [5] - 93:19, 94:23,
94:24, 95:1, 116:25
June [2] - 83:20,
123:14
justice [1] - 107:19
K
keep [5] - 52:4, 89:14,
92:2, 113:5, 116:18
keepers [1] - 25:5
Keller [1] - 96:5
key [1] - 92:11
kidding [2] - 6:23,
6:25
killing [1] - 83:20
kind [39] - 13:22,
15:19, 15:24, 16:3,
38:1, 46:5, 48:19,
50:21, 54:21, 55:2,
57:12, 59:6, 67:4,
70:4, 77:6, 78:12,
82:23, 83:8, 85:5,
88:21, 89:19, 90:23,
91:22, 92:14, 94:11,
95:20, 98:18,
102:18, 103:14,
105:1, 106:13,
107:4, 107:14,
111:13, 113:12,
114:20, 115:16,
122:3
knowing [1] - 114:19
knowledge [10] -
23:17, 34:23, 38:13,
38:25, 39:10, 40:3,
41:16, 41:21, 64:2,
69:1
knowledgeable [1] -
69:1
knows [1] - 86:18
L
land [2] - 77:14,
108:21
language [1] - 46:25
large [1] - 87:4
Larry [4] - 4:15, 30:20,
66:3, 114:18
last [24] - 3:15, 7:17,
8:4, 9:11, 9:16, 59:3,
81:12, 84:18, 85:6,
87:10, 87:16, 88:25,
89:9, 91:13, 91:16,
92:6, 96:16, 98:24,
100:13, 100:15,
104:24, 109:14,
111:19, 117:2
law [3] - 5:8, 51:22,
120:18
laying [1] - 16:3
Lazaro [8] - 1:24,
23:22, 52:13, 59:4,
106:22, 107:18,
107:22, 108:15
learned [1] - 70:4
learner [1] - 83:2
learning [1] - 36:22
least [7] - 28:23,
33:17, 54:17, 58:14,
59:9, 60:5, 71:24
leave [6] - 45:11,
65:13, 88:3, 91:8,
91:12, 110:25
left [3] - 87:8, 87:10,
91:16
legal [7] - 2:20, 40:10,
40:17, 51:17, 96:3,
101:4, 101:6
legally [5] - 52:3,
53:13, 53:16, 53:18,
91:17
legislation [1] - 49:12
legislators [1] -
115:11
legislature [1] - 94:8
less [4] - 85:11, 90:17,
102:12, 106:9
lesser [1] - 86:11
letter [6] - 35:11,
35:24, 36:2, 120:10,
120:11, 120:13
letters [2] - 2:17,
32:18
level [4] - 34:21,
49:25, 82:18, 82:19
levels [1] - 34:22
liability [1] - 12:3
license [1] - 69:8
licensed [2] - 39:7,
68:14
limit [2] - 4:17, 26:17
line [2] - 28:6, 94:7
listed [2] - 4:10, 32:3
listen [8] - 22:19,
22:22, 79:4, 79:14,
98:23, 102:17,
115:10, 121:15
listening [1] - 72:22
live [9] - 34:5, 38:21,
40:12, 40:19, 40:20,
41:2, 41:4, 41:20,
110:1
lives [1] - 38:24
local [1] - 39:17
logical [1] - 102:8
look [30] - 9:9, 10:12,
10:22, 11:11, 16:2,
16:14, 17:25, 21:10,
28:23, 29:14, 33:21,
34:1, 34:16, 34:18,
39:4, 41:8, 42:1,
46:5, 64:19, 66:4,
66:24, 74:21, 75:12,
98:11, 103:19,
106:24, 107:1,
107:24, 109:7
looked [2] - 9:11,
31:24
looking [19] - 4:21,
8:7, 26:21, 37:16,
42:19, 55:8, 66:15,
66:16, 66:18, 66:21,
80:10, 89:15, 90:3,
92:24, 93:20, 94:4,
111:4, 122:4
looks [1] - 50:10
Lorena [1] - 123:5
LORENA [1] - 123:21
love [1] - 88:4
lump [1] - 72:17
lumped [1] - 118:14
M
magistrate [24] -
35:12, 35:13, 35:16,
36:1, 37:4, 37:5,
41:2, 44:5, 44:16,
45:9, 56:24, 58:10,
59:21, 61:11, 61:12,
64:15, 66:4, 69:5,
69:12, 76:25, 79:22,
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS, INC. (305) 373-5600
7
90:11, 106:8, 106:16
magistrate's [5] -
35:6, 100:17,
101:21, 104:2,
118:24
Magistrates [2] - 2:2,
2:15
magistrates [41] -
2:12, 5:1, 5:6, 31:17,
31:25, 32:5, 32:15,
34:2, 34:3, 41:4,
41:7, 43:19, 44:3,
45:2, 45:4, 55:9,
55:15, 57:7, 57:15,
57:22, 57:23, 58:2,
58:12, 64:22, 67:8,
76:25, 85:1, 85:3,
85:11, 85:12, 88:6,
88:17, 90:7, 90:20,
101:6, 101:7, 101:8,
105:7, 105:19,
105:22, 111:13
magistrates' [1] -
36:15
Magistrates' [1] - 2:7
magnitude [1] - 33:19
major [2] - 37:9, 57:2
majority [1] - 87:3
man [2] - 7:2, 116:17
Management [1] -
26:9
management [2] -
23:11, 23:24
Manager [1] - 1:24
manager [1] - 64:17
Manny [3] - 77:1,
80:18, 102:9
manpower [1] - 96:14
manual [1] - 4:7
Manuel [1] - 1:16
Mark [1] - 1:25
market [4] - 61:14,
66:10, 73:21, 73:23
MARTINEZ [8] - 15:4,
17:7, 27:1, 27:5,
27:10, 29:6, 29:13,
29:20
Martinez [2] - 1:20,
1:25
Martinez-Esteve [1] -
1:20
massive [2] - 21:22
master [2] - 69:21,
70:8
mastered [2] - 70:17,
70:19
mat [1] - 29:23
mathematical [1] -
43:23
matter [2] - 13:7,
31:14
maximum [1] - 41:16
mayor [1] - 43:7
mean [35] - 11:1,
11:13, 18:13, 22:5,
23:18, 24:23, 28:20,
35:25, 39:4, 39:14,
46:17, 53:17, 62:2,
62:15, 63:22, 64:6,
64:7, 67:1, 67:4,
69:24, 72:10, 81:15,
86:4, 86:12, 86:17,
102:20, 103:12,
103:14, 107:1,
107:2, 109:8,
112:19, 113:12,
114:21, 118:11
means [1] - 109:19
meant [1] - 19:2
measuring [1] - 115:6
mechanism [2] -
107:11, 107:12
meet [2] - 83:17, 83:18
Meeting [1] - 4:4
meeting [26] - 3:12,
3:14, 3:15, 4:5, 4:6,
4:9, 4:14, 4:24, 7:17,
8:4, 9:11, 27:13,
81:13, 83:16, 83:23,
85:7, 87:11, 87:16,
93:10, 93:23, 94:22,
98:24, 116:13,
121:18, 122:16,
123:9
meetings [5] - 33:18,
49:1, 88:5, 88:17,
111:19
meets [1] - 15:13
member [1] - 110:13
Member [1] - 1:12
MEMBER [148] - 3:20,
9:5, 9:8, 11:6, 11:9,
13:17, 15:16, 16:13,
17:2, 17:13, 17:17,
18:7, 18:21, 20:18,
21:10, 21:18, 22:3,
22:16, 22:20, 22:23,
23:3, 23:21, 25:2,
25:6, 25:25, 26:15,
27:14, 28:19, 31:13,
39:23, 40:6, 40:23,
41:23, 42:15, 43:6,
43:14, 43:17, 45:16,
45:20, 46:4, 46:8,
46:18, 46:21, 47:10,
47:16, 47:25, 48:4,
48:20, 49:3, 51:6,
51:8, 53:12, 53:16,
54:7, 55:22, 58:18,
59:16, 59:20, 60:3,
60:7, 60:14, 60:22,
60:24, 61:3, 61:7,
61:10, 61:21, 62:6,
62:25, 63:16, 65:4,
65:7, 66:20, 67:19,
68:6, 69:13, 69:18,
70:11, 71:2, 71:5,
71:12, 72:6, 72:12,
73:1, 73:10, 73:25,
74:7, 75:17, 75:21,
76:3, 76:10, 76:20,
78:21, 79:21, 80:9,
81:9, 81:20, 82:14,
83:1, 83:9, 83:19,
84:8, 84:25, 86:2,
86:16, 86:21, 87:12,
87:24, 89:24, 90:6,
90:18, 91:2, 93:6,
93:9, 93:13, 93:22,
94:13, 94:17, 95:11,
95:14, 96:17, 96:20,
97:14, 98:3, 98:9,
99:13, 99:16,
110:15, 110:19,
112:15, 112:24,
113:15, 113:23,
114:5, 114:12,
115:21, 116:24,
118:6, 118:10,
118:16, 118:20,
119:3, 119:16,
119:21, 120:2,
120:12, 120:19,
122:13
Members [4] - 3:2,
3:3, 3:7, 3:17
MEMBERS [1] - 1:9
members [7] - 3:6,
3:11, 16:9, 37:22,
52:24, 120:8, 121:20
membership [1] - 40:2
memo [1] - 80:18
memorandum [3] -
31:22, 52:18, 56:13
mention [2] - 112:3,
113:4
mentioned [3] - 14:13,
29:7, 78:9
mentioning [1] - 112:6
metric [1] - 95:21
metrics [3] - 2:22,
100:6, 102:18
Miami [22] - 39:11,
39:21, 41:4, 41:8,
42:7, 42:8, 42:10,
61:14, 61:19, 62:13,
63:15, 65:19, 65:21,
66:8, 68:8, 97:19,
110:2, 111:10,
115:20, 121:1,
121:8, 123:15
Miami-Dade [18] -
39:11, 39:21, 41:4,
41:8, 42:7, 42:8,
42:10, 61:14, 61:19,
62:13, 65:19, 65:21,
66:8, 68:8, 97:19,
111:10, 115:20,
123:15
Miamian [1] - 63:14
might [7] - 33:22,
33:23, 67:12, 75:6,
94:3, 101:20, 102:15
million [1] - 6:22
mind [2] - 13:23,
14:16
minimal [1] - 24:14
minimum [5] - 59:22,
61:4, 61:5, 61:6,
61:8
minutes [2] - 4:17,
42:2
mirroring [2] - 24:12,
24:23
mirrors [1] - 52:17
missing [4] - 45:18,
45:19, 112:11,
120:16
mistake [1] - 35:13
mistaken [1] - 8:14
mix [1] - 73:17
mixed [8] - 73:8, 74:2,
74:10, 74:19, 74:24,
76:14, 77:5, 105:8
mode [2] - 51:20,
93:17
money [3] - 29:16,
37:9, 109:17
monitor [1] - 115:16
monitoring [1] - 107:6
month [3] - 44:5, 44:8,
44:19
monthly [2] - 111:18,
111:20
months [4] - 60:18,
70:3, 100:13, 100:16
morning [2] - 88:6,
95:5
most [6] - 37:9, 57:14,
58:7, 62:1, 73:12,
107:20
mostly [1] - 4:9
motion [7] - 5:9, 5:19,
25:20, 26:3, 26:13,
55:13, 117:22
move [8] - 16:4, 24:10,
59:4, 67:4, 92:22,
95:10, 95:23, 118:2
moved [8] - 5:20,
5:22, 6:7, 6:9, 26:14,
99:24, 100:3, 118:4
movement [1] - 97:15
moves [1] - 30:6
moving [16] - 15:19,
34:24, 37:16, 42:23,
43:2, 50:14, 53:8,
57:11, 79:13, 82:25,
89:18, 91:25, 94:16,
99:5, 106:12, 115:7
MR [246] - 3:1, 3:22,
5:23, 6:3, 6:8, 6:11,
6:15, 6:17, 7:6, 13:9,
13:18, 13:20, 13:22,
15:4, 17:7, 23:9,
23:23, 27:1, 27:5,
27:10, 27:12, 27:18,
29:6, 29:10, 29:13,
29:20, 30:13, 30:16,
30:20, 30:23, 31:1,
31:16, 32:12, 33:3,
35:8, 35:22, 36:7,
36:12, 36:17, 36:24,
36:25, 37:6, 38:2,
38:7, 38:18, 39:7,
39:9, 40:22, 41:18,
42:14, 42:21, 42:25,
43:17, 46:16, 46:20,
47:9, 47:14, 47:19,
47:24, 48:17, 48:23,
49:14, 50:12, 52:12,
52:14, 56:18, 56:23,
57:4, 57:14, 57:21,
58:2, 58:5, 58:6,
58:7, 58:21, 59:9,
59:15, 60:1, 60:5,
60:10, 61:6, 61:9,
61:17, 61:24, 62:5,
62:21, 62:22, 63:2,
63:5, 63:9, 63:14,
63:18, 64:13, 66:3,
67:6, 67:17, 67:18,
68:3, 68:11, 68:13,
68:20, 68:25, 69:10,
69:11, 69:25, 70:7,
70:15, 70:20, 70:23,
71:17, 71:21, 72:20,
73:6, 73:20, 74:4,
74:9, 74:12, 75:2,
75:14, 75:25, 76:8,
76:19, 76:22, 76:24,
77:10, 77:13, 77:20,
77:24, 78:2, 78:10,
78:14, 79:2, 79:6,
79:16, 79:19, 79:20,
79:22, 79:24, 80:1,
80:3, 80:5, 80:24,
81:18, 83:11, 83:16,
84:6, 84:10, 84:16,
85:19, 85:23, 86:1,
86:6, 86:24, 87:3,
87:9, 87:20, 88:2,
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS, INC. (305) 373-5600
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88:11, 88:16, 88:23,
89:4, 89:10, 89:19,
90:16, 91:1, 91:18,
92:5, 93:8, 93:11,
94:24, 95:1, 95:6,
95:24, 98:7, 99:15,
99:18, 100:5,
100:11, 101:2,
101:9, 101:10,
101:16, 101:19,
102:3, 102:6, 102:8,
102:13, 102:23,
103:3, 103:4,
103:10, 103:16,
103:22, 103:25,
104:5, 104:10,
104:14, 104:22,
105:6, 105:16,
105:18, 105:21,
105:24, 106:5,
106:7, 106:15,
107:18, 109:1,
109:14, 110:1,
110:7, 113:10,
114:9, 114:13,
114:15, 114:18,
115:3, 116:6,
116:11, 116:15,
117:2, 117:7,
117:11, 117:13,
117:16, 117:17,
117:20, 117:21,
118:2, 118:15,
118:18, 118:23,
119:8, 119:9,
119:14, 119:20,
119:23, 120:6,
120:17, 120:24,
121:6, 121:7,
121:10, 121:13,
121:21, 122:5
MS [136] - 3:20, 9:5,
9:8, 11:6, 11:9,
15:16, 16:13, 17:2,
17:13, 17:17, 18:7,
18:21, 20:18, 21:10,
21:18, 22:3, 22:16,
22:20, 22:23, 23:3,
25:2, 25:6, 25:25,
26:15, 27:14, 28:19,
31:13, 39:23, 40:6,
40:23, 41:23, 42:15,
43:6, 46:8, 46:18,
46:21, 47:10, 47:16,
47:25, 48:4, 48:20,
49:3, 51:6, 51:8,
53:12, 53:16, 54:7,
55:22, 58:18, 59:16,
59:20, 60:3, 60:7,
60:14, 60:22, 60:24,
61:3, 61:7, 61:10,
61:21, 62:6, 62:25,
63:16, 65:4, 65:7,
66:20, 67:19, 68:6,
69:13, 69:18, 70:11,
71:2, 71:5, 71:12,
72:6, 72:12, 73:1,
73:10, 73:25, 74:7,
75:17, 75:21, 76:3,
76:10, 76:20, 78:21,
79:21, 80:15, 81:9,
81:20, 82:14, 83:1,
83:9, 83:19, 84:8,
84:25, 86:2, 86:16,
86:21, 87:12, 87:24,
93:6, 93:9, 93:13,
93:22, 94:13, 94:17,
95:11, 95:14, 96:17,
96:20, 97:14, 98:3,
98:9, 99:13, 99:16,
110:15, 110:19,
112:15, 112:24,
113:15, 113:23,
114:5, 115:21,
116:24, 118:6,
118:10, 118:16,
118:20, 119:3,
119:16, 119:21,
120:2, 120:12,
120:19, 122:13
multifamily [1] - 77:15
multiple [2] - 28:8,
57:7
multiply [1] - 90:8
must [6] - 38:12,
48:18, 68:14, 75:4,
116:13, 116:18
N
name [6] - 30:18,
30:20, 63:7, 80:14,
109:25, 114:17
Name [1] - 120:23
native [1] - 63:14
nearly [1] - 108:10
necessarily [2] -
54:23, 61:24
necessary [1] - 60:6
need [35] - 5:12, 5:19,
8:6, 9:23, 10:23,
11:24, 12:25, 15:20,
16:23, 19:7, 24:21,
33:16, 45:8, 45:9,
46:12, 46:22, 47:1,
48:3, 49:3, 50:11,
54:15, 58:6, 67:2,
72:15, 78:4, 78:22,
88:21, 94:1, 98:1,
98:4, 104:11,
111:21, 112:19,
116:3, 121:17
needs [15] - 6:15, 8:9,
8:11, 28:16, 33:7,
50:3, 54:1, 65:8,
79:15, 99:1, 99:2,
107:8, 112:22,
113:20
negotiated [1] - 28:1
negotiating [1] -
108:21
never [1] - 83:6
new [6] - 2:9, 2:10,
7:7, 7:10, 43:7,
66:22
newcomers [1] -
86:11
newspaper [1] - 121:8
next [9] - 6:2, 27:12,
30:12, 31:15, 43:11,
83:16, 93:10, 94:7,
121:18
no-brainer [1] - 66:13
nobody [1] - 114:7
Nobody's [1] - 43:8
nobody's [1] - 43:9
none [1] - 14:16
noon [1] - 89:3
normally [1] - 76:24
North [1] - 109:20
Notary [1] - 123:6
notes [4] - 75:18,
75:20, 84:13, 123:12
Notice [3] - 2:25,
117:19, 117:25
notice [1] - 118:25
number [17] - 11:12,
11:25, 14:14, 29:1,
31:7, 43:25, 44:2,
44:3, 44:6, 44:7,
44:15, 60:20, 62:4,
90:10, 100:19,
106:1, 119:10
Number [6] - 60:22,
60:23, 61:12,
110:14, 111:5, 111:9
numbers [15] - 7:2,
11:5, 11:15, 13:6,
13:25, 43:24, 80:10,
89:22, 89:23, 90:4,
95:17, 105:15,
114:24, 115:24,
115:25
nuts [1] - 16:14
NW [1] - 1:1
O
o'clock [2] - 88:7,
88:12
objecting [2] - 5:25,
30:10
objection [5] - 6:1,
7:4, 7:5, 99:25,
100:2
obviously [5] - 9:10,
66:16, 76:5, 97:2,
102:20
occasions [1] - 105:1
October [5] - 2:6,
27:13, 83:17, 83:19,
83:23
OF [3] - 1:1, 123:2
offended [1] - 114:8
offered [3] - 48:25,
49:1, 84:11
offering [1] - 81:2
Office [10] - 1:24, 3:4,
7:24, 14:3, 19:6,
26:7, 26:8, 26:10,
36:1
OFFICE [1] - 1:19
office [6] - 15:10,
26:4, 38:21, 53:25,
57:23, 87:23
offices [1] - 110:2
once [16] - 11:20,
16:8, 19:21, 27:25,
28:10, 32:7, 37:4,
56:25, 57:12, 57:15,
58:14, 59:5, 59:9,
71:24, 90:8, 97:1
one [38] - 15:13,
17:24, 20:24, 28:8,
30:13, 33:20, 33:24,
34:1, 41:9, 43:9,
43:10, 46:20, 54:5,
56:19, 56:21, 58:3,
62:16, 62:18, 63:21,
70:22, 75:12, 75:22,
78:8, 78:25, 81:8,
87:1, 89:18, 93:12,
94:11, 100:10,
102:14, 108:15,
110:7, 117:3,
118:21, 121:14
ones [4] - 17:7, 34:24,
35:3, 86:9
open [6] - 12:5, 16:24,
17:19, 34:7, 67:6,
110:11
opening [1] - 67:9
operate [2] - 24:9,
98:20
operates [1] - 98:25
operation [1] - 107:4
operations [2] - 23:24,
24:14
opine [1] - 37:23
opinion [2] - 2:20,
96:3
opportunity [4] - 9:9,
10:7, 51:17, 72:7
opt [10] - 47:3, 47:5,
47:12, 47:20, 47:23,
48:5, 48:8, 50:8,
50:10, 50:17
opt-in [3] - 47:3,
47:23, 50:10
opted [1] - 48:16
option [5] - 35:18,
74:25, 75:1, 75:3,
76:14
options [5] - 15:12,
21:11, 22:24, 23:2,
23:4
order [3] - 46:23,
73:15, 94:9
original [1] - 35:17
otherwise [1] - 69:7
ought [2] - 64:4,
112:21
outline [1] - 92:19
outlines [1] - 52:18
output [2] - 109:12,
109:13
outside [2] - 20:21,
41:9
outsource [1] - 25:8
overall [1] - 104:22
overlaps [1] - 89:1
overprotect [1] -
19:12
overtime [3] - 2:16,
32:15, 45:8
own [2] - 37:25, 96:10
owner [1] - 14:22
P
p.m [1] - 122:15
packet [1] - 100:14
PAGE [1] - 2:1
page [1] - 59:21
pages [1] - 123:10
paper [3] - 50:22,
54:10, 54:16
parcel [1] - 28:22
part [25] - 9:25, 10:2,
10:13, 18:22, 19:24,
24:3, 34:16, 37:18,
42:18, 53:5, 55:9,
56:6, 58:16, 69:11,
73:12, 78:6, 82:17,
86:7, 90:18, 96:24,
99:18, 99:19,
105:12, 112:23,
113:17
participants [1] -
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS, INC. (305) 373-5600
9
53:10
participating [3] -
53:6, 85:8, 87:18
participation [4] -
40:2, 40:14, 43:18,
49:25
particular [1] - 51:23
parts [2] - 89:18,
115:12
party [8] - 21:14,
21:16, 22:9, 24:3,
24:13, 25:8, 25:10,
53:2
pass [2] - 63:17, 120:8
past [3] - 19:16, 20:2,
33:5
Patisco [1] - 17:12
pay [4] - 9:20, 85:14,
87:15, 99:11
payment [1] - 48:11
PDF [1] - 10:19
peace [1] - 14:16
Pedro [5] - 1:23,
41:24, 59:3, 75:23,
108:16
peg [1] - 18:5
people [24] - 20:1,
20:9, 20:12, 22:8,
25:13, 34:14, 34:19,
37:3, 38:10, 39:10,
41:20, 66:9, 66:22,
67:10, 69:20, 76:12,
85:16, 91:20, 92:25,
105:1, 107:13,
112:8, 112:16, 122:2
people's [2] - 12:1,
34:23
Pepe [2] - 1:11, 3:18
per [13] - 2:22, 100:8,
100:20, 101:12,
102:12, 102:14,
105:19, 106:3,
106:9, 106:18,
106:19, 108:14,
108:19
perceived [1] - 31:23
percentage [8] - 6:22,
42:9, 61:22, 61:23,
61:25, 65:19, 68:8,
109:18
period [1] - 67:12
person [2] - 35:2,
92:21
personal [1] - 12:2
perspective [2] - 15:3,
39:5
phased [1] - 28:5
phonetic [1] - 80:16
phonetic) [1] - 109:23
physically [1] - 10:12
picture [1] - 119:6
piggyback [1] - 41:24
piles [2] - 97:7
place [5] - 29:23, 35:7,
36:23, 50:2, 82:5
placeholder [1] -
28:23
planet [1] - 11:18
platform [9] - 9:20,
10:18, 11:18, 12:7,
12:8, 12:10, 12:16,
16:19, 16:20
play [2] - 10:17, 20:4
players [1] - 112:21
playing [1] - 22:25
plug [1] - 10:17
plug-and-play [1] -
10:17
point [43] - 9:15,
10:25, 11:8, 11:16,
11:24, 16:18, 18:14,
18:15, 19:4, 21:17,
23:6, 25:3, 28:2,
29:15, 39:14, 46:9,
48:1, 48:3, 50:17,
53:17, 54:17, 54:20,
65:11, 70:11, 73:1,
74:5, 75:10, 80:2,
86:17, 87:16, 95:18,
97:1, 101:22,
104:16, 106:12,
107:1, 107:19,
115:2, 119:5,
120:13, 121:2,
122:10
points [2] - 17:24,
109:18
policies [8] - 2:13,
31:19, 45:25, 51:13,
54:5, 98:14, 111:3,
111:9
policy [9] - 54:23,
54:24, 55:2, 55:4,
74:22, 82:2, 84:5,
87:7, 99:2
poll [1] - 88:22
pool [6] - 67:6, 67:9,
87:1, 87:2, 87:5
pools [2] - 86:20,
86:22
positive [1] - 66:2
possibility [1] - 73:14
possible [6] - 8:6,
25:22, 33:11, 71:6,
72:15, 103:21
possibly [2] - 20:5,
37:17
posted [1] - 122:14
pot [1] - 98:19
potential [2] - 2:18,
95:25
practice [5] - 50:7,
51:20, 52:11, 54:9,
54:23
practicing [2] - 64:2,
70:1
prefer [2] - 88:6, 93:3
preference [2] - 40:21,
41:3
preliminary [1] -
100:10
prepare [3] - 2:10, 7:9,
26:10
preparing [2] - 20:12,
51:3
present [1] - 1:9
presented [4] - 33:4,
56:11, 56:12, 80:18
presently [1] - 63:9
pressing [1] - 88:21
pressure [1] - 103:1
pretty [5] - 32:25,
36:6, 70:2, 87:9,
92:8
previous [1] - 90:6
proactive [1] - 94:19
problem [10] - 18:2,
23:1, 39:9, 40:25,
53:13, 54:25, 73:6,
86:8, 103:24, 103:25
procedure [8] - 51:19,
52:5, 53:20, 53:21,
65:8, 81:22, 98:10,
112:9
procedures [11] -
46:11, 47:12, 51:13,
51:24, 52:19, 54:5,
81:11, 98:14,
107:19, 111:3,
111:10
proceedings [1] -
123:8
process [45] - 10:1,
10:11, 10:23, 13:2,
13:13, 16:4, 19:22,
20:20, 35:21, 35:22,
36:6, 36:8, 36:15,
36:22, 41:20, 46:6,
47:3, 47:4, 47:23,
48:19, 50:3, 50:4,
50:9, 50:10, 50:15,
50:19, 50:20, 51:2,
52:5, 65:12, 65:14,
66:25, 89:2, 92:1,
93:2, 96:13, 97:19,
102:21, 103:2,
103:3, 104:23,
105:12, 107:10,
113:18
processing [1] - 108:5
procure [1] - 27:19
procurement [5] - 2:9,
2:10, 7:7, 7:10, 26:5
produced [1] - 10:4
productive [1] - 90:5
productivity [8] - 2:14,
32:13, 44:15, 46:6,
55:18, 90:19, 90:23,
91:4
Professional [1] -
123:5
program [2] - 2:11,
7:11
program/system [2] -
2:10, 7:8
progress [1] - 27:4
project [2] - 28:4, 28:5
properly [1] - 30:2
properties [5] - 45:3,
64:4, 64:5, 72:8,
72:14
Property [6] - 1:23,
1:24, 3:3, 14:3, 19:5,
26:8
property [14] - 2:3,
2:23, 3:2, 5:4, 14:22,
37:7, 37:8, 48:24,
71:6, 102:1, 108:13,
118:13, 119:12,
120:1
proposal [1] - 9:12
proposals [1] - 24:18
prosecute [3] - 109:3,
114:19, 114:25
protect [5] - 9:21,
9:23, 11:17, 11:19,
79:12
protectable [1] - 51:22
protected [5] - 9:18,
19:4, 19:15, 20:8,
52:3
protection [3] - 8:22,
53:22, 53:24
protective [1] - 7:23
protects [1] - 51:15
provide [4] - 53:19,
85:7, 105:11, 105:21
provided [6] - 4:11,
4:22, 14:5, 14:21,
31:21, 94:14
prudent [1] - 51:5
Public [1] - 123:6
public [31] - 4:13,
5:17, 9:19, 9:22,
10:2, 10:5, 10:19,
12:11, 12:22, 12:23,
14:7, 14:11, 14:23,
15:2, 16:25, 19:12,
20:1, 20:7, 24:2,
24:11, 62:18, 80:12,
84:2, 112:4, 112:7,
112:10, 120:6,
120:14, 121:3,
121:5, 121:24
publication [2] - 2:25,
117:18
published [1] - 121:7
pull [2] - 48:6, 120:15
purely [3] - 108:19,
108:20, 108:21
purposes [5] - 4:23,
14:6, 32:7, 41:22,
76:16
pursuant [1] - 3:15
push [2] - 39:15,
49:20
pushing [1] - 52:4
put [27] - 10:7, 12:10,
12:11, 13:23, 18:10,
22:9, 24:25, 25:16,
25:20, 29:16, 29:18,
29:20, 29:21, 30:8,
50:22, 59:3, 62:4,
64:11, 77:18, 78:5,
78:12, 78:24, 82:22,
111:22, 112:19,
113:16, 114:2
puts [2] - 112:12,
116:1
putting [4] - 16:24,
21:7, 103:1, 110:22
Puyanic [4] - 4:16,
30:21, 66:3, 114:18
PUYANIC [13] - 30:13,
30:16, 30:20, 30:23,
31:1, 66:3, 67:6,
67:18, 110:7,
114:13, 114:15,
114:18, 115:3
Q
quality [4] - 102:25,
104:18, 107:7,
109:12
questions [6] - 5:15,
19:17, 26:18, 59:17,
102:25, 120:22
quick [5] - 39:24,
59:17, 80:13,
110:16, 110:20
quickly [3] - 9:6,
15:21, 89:5
quiet [1] - 116:19
quite [1] - 20:3
quorum [2] - 99:19,
99:20
quote [1] - 86:10
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS, INC. (305) 373-5600
10
R
raised [1] - 102:25
Ramos [1] - 123:5
RAMOS [1] - 123:21
ran [1] - 38:8
ranking [1] - 40:21
rapid [1] - 87:18
Raquel [3] - 1:12, 3:9,
84:6
rate [1] - 85:14
rather [3] - 87:22,
88:2, 122:9
reach [2] - 27:10,
44:20
reached [1] - 96:4
reaches [1] - 32:8
read [5] - 33:8, 51:1,
55:20, 75:14, 90:13
reading [3] - 37:13,
48:14, 55:7
reads [1] - 36:1
real [2] - 7:21, 50:23
really [15] - 9:6, 10:6,
10:11, 11:2, 31:8,
39:23, 40:24, 66:7,
84:15, 90:13, 94:1,
97:4, 108:18,
110:16, 110:20
realm [1] - 23:17
reason [7] - 7:21,
21:17, 59:11, 79:5,
97:21, 103:11, 122:5
recommendation [2] -
52:14, 52:17
recommendations [7]
- 2:2, 2:7, 5:1, 5:7,
5:9, 108:4, 118:24
reconsideration [2] -
35:12, 108:11
reconstituted [1] -
54:19
reconvene [1] - 52:21
record [6] - 6:24, 9:3,
30:19, 98:7, 123:11
records [1] - 35:15
recourse [1] - 35:10
redacting [1] - 31:14
reduce [1] - 35:4
reductions [1] - 119:2
reference [1] - 18:16
referred [1] - 46:13
REGALADO [137] -
3:20, 9:5, 9:8, 11:6,
11:9, 13:17, 15:16,
16:13, 17:2, 17:13,
17:17, 18:7, 18:21,
20:18, 21:10, 21:18,
22:3, 22:16, 22:20,
22:23, 23:3, 25:2,
25:6, 25:25, 26:15,
27:14, 28:19, 31:13,
39:23, 40:6, 40:23,
41:23, 42:15, 43:6,
46:8, 46:18, 46:21,
47:10, 47:16, 47:25,
48:4, 48:20, 49:3,
51:6, 51:8, 53:12,
53:16, 54:7, 55:22,
58:18, 59:16, 59:20,
60:3, 60:7, 60:14,
60:22, 60:24, 61:3,
61:7, 61:10, 61:21,
62:6, 62:25, 63:16,
65:4, 65:7, 66:20,
67:19, 68:6, 69:13,
69:18, 70:11, 71:2,
71:5, 71:12, 72:6,
72:12, 73:1, 73:10,
73:25, 74:7, 75:17,
75:21, 76:3, 76:10,
76:20, 78:21, 79:21,
81:9, 81:20, 82:14,
83:1, 83:9, 83:19,
84:8, 84:25, 86:2,
86:16, 86:21, 87:12,
87:24, 93:6, 93:9,
93:13, 93:22, 94:13,
94:17, 95:11, 95:14,
96:17, 96:20, 97:14,
98:3, 98:9, 99:13,
99:16, 110:15,
110:19, 112:15,
112:24, 113:15,
113:23, 114:5,
114:12, 115:21,
116:24, 118:6,
118:10, 118:16,
118:20, 119:3,
119:16, 119:21,
120:2, 120:12,
120:19, 122:13
Regalado [12] - 1:12,
3:9, 9:7, 33:5, 34:13,
39:22, 41:10, 46:7,
51:7, 78:18, 100:3,
118:9
regarding [6] - 2:13,
2:20, 4:1, 31:19,
31:22, 96:2
Registered [1] - 123:5
regular [1] - 64:3
regulation [1] - 96:9
rehiring [1] - 90:20
reiterate [1] - 9:14
relative [1] - 115:4
remaining [5] - 2:3,
4:2, 5:3, 14:12,
44:25
remove [1] - 61:4
replica [1] - 24:4
report [6] - 12:7, 27:3,
100:10, 113:8,
113:20, 123:7
report/memorandum
[1] - 33:1
REPORTER [3] - 23:7,
123:2, 123:22
Reporter [1] - 123:6
reporting [6] - 111:15,
111:17, 111:18,
111:21, 113:1,
113:18
reports [2] - 61:17,
113:16
represent [1] - 35:3
representative [3] -
14:22, 49:16, 93:25
representatives [1] -
26:7
request [1] - 47:17
requested [10] - 2:20,
4:3, 43:19, 43:24,
45:14, 46:3, 47:15,
83:13, 96:3
requests [2] - 4:13,
108:10
required [2] - 3:12,
120:17
requirement [2] -
15:7, 38:12
requirements [2] -
32:5, 39:25
requires [2] - 65:3,
119:24
reschedule [1] - 86:13
rescheduled [1] -
67:14
reschedules [2] -
2:17, 32:18
reside [2] - 34:5,
63:10
residency [1] - 39:24
resident [2] - 35:5,
42:6
residential [17] - 44:2,
44:13, 45:4, 71:9,
72:21, 72:22, 73:4,
73:13, 73:23, 75:7,
77:3, 78:1, 100:25,
103:7, 103:14,
104:20, 105:9
residing [1] - 63:12
resolution [2] - 5:12,
83:8
resolve [1] - 96:24
resonate [1] - 99:7
resources [1] - 109:11
respect [2] - 30:2,
119:24
responsibility [1] -
7:25
responsible [3] -
21:17, 31:4, 111:24
rest [3] - 45:12, 67:13,
75:7
returns [3] - 14:2,
31:3, 31:6
review [1] - 16:10
rewording [1] - 55:11
RFP [7] - 16:8, 16:23,
18:23, 19:21, 20:12,
26:3, 26:11
ride [1] - 87:25
riser [1] - 87:22
risers [1] - 95:5
risking [1] - 69:8
Road [1] - 30:23
Robert [1] - 1:24
roles [1] - 108:17
roll [2] - 3:14, 4:1
rolls [2] - 2:5, 6:5
Room [1] - 1:1
room [4] - 74:1, 81:5,
81:6, 81:8
rotation [2] - 86:3,
86:7
round [1] - 18:6
RPR [1] - 123:21
rule [3] - 52:1, 73:2,
96:11
rules [2] - 80:19,
111:7
run [9] - 18:18, 18:20,
21:1, 21:2, 21:15,
25:16, 54:13, 73:6,
121:25
running [2] - 81:5,
107:3
rush [1] - 57:5
Russian [1] - 22:13
S
sacrificing [1] - 105:3
safeguard [3] - 10:23,
24:6, 65:12
safeguarding [2] -
14:9, 24:15
sake [1] - 43:18
salaries [3] - 100:17,
101:21, 104:2
salary [3] - 105:22,
106:8, 106:16
sale [1] - 43:5
saves [1] - 97:24
saw [4] - 49:8, 57:12,
59:5, 59:11
schedule [3] - 58:4,
86:12, 101:5
scheduled [2] - 27:13,
72:14
scheduling [1] - 94:22
Schlosberg [2] - 4:15,
116:10
SCHLOSBERG [1] -
116:11
scholarship [1] -
109:22
school [1] - 97:3
School [13] - 1:12,
2:19, 3:9, 11:13,
27:22, 40:1, 97:17,
97:18, 98:5, 112:3,
113:25, 114:3, 120:9
scope [1] - 78:13
se [1] - 108:19
seamless [1] - 25:14
second [7] - 5:23,
6:10, 6:11, 55:17,
59:21, 110:10, 118:8
seconded [4] - 5:24,
6:12, 26:15, 99:24
section [2] - 111:14,
112:1
secure [3] - 12:18,
14:4, 21:25
securing [1] - 10:20
security [10] - 8:8,
9:14, 11:5, 11:12,
11:15, 13:6, 13:25,
14:8, 15:3, 31:7
see [10] - 27:5, 45:1,
48:6, 51:1, 88:14,
88:20, 95:17,
103:19, 108:25,
118:25
seeing [1] - 80:17
seem [2] - 53:25, 99:9
select [1] - 15:13
selected [1] - 28:11
selection [6] - 16:5,
16:6, 16:16, 26:6,
27:25, 40:21
self [1] - 58:8
self-employed [1] -
58:8
send [2] - 35:11, 35:24
sending [1] - 92:18
Senior [1] - 63:15
sense [4] - 55:3,
60:15, 103:7, 119:22
sensitive [3] - 14:16,
31:9, 91:5
sent [1] - 113:20
separate [11] - 12:13,
12:25, 17:3, 40:19,
41:6, 103:7, 103:20,
MIAMI-DADE COUNTY COURT REPORTERS, INC. (305) 373-5600
11
118:15, 118:16,
118:18, 118:21
separately [1] - 21:9
serve [1] - 32:6
SERVICES [1] - 1:5
serving [2] - 57:7,
66:5
settled [1] - 119:11
setup [1] - 108:18
several [1] - 83:12
shadow [1] - 85:12
shadowing [1] - 85:10
shall [5] - 2:16, 32:15,
79:24, 80:1, 80:5
shall" [2] - 79:18,
79:23
share [1] - 49:7
shift [1] - 96:14
shooting [1] - 75:5
show [10] - 5:25, 7:4,
52:2, 98:12, 98:19,
100:1, 106:15,
107:3, 107:5, 119:9
showed [1] - 104:1
shows [1] - 102:20
side [4] - 27:19, 78:25,
104:20, 104:21
signed [2] - 6:16, 6:20
significantly [1] -
106:2
signing [1] - 109:15
similar [5] - 33:4,
71:6, 72:14, 72:18,
100:22
simple [5] - 19:22,
53:1, 64:3, 92:20,
113:5
simpler [1] - 82:25
simplistically [1] -
82:13
simply [1] - 47:13
single [16] - 46:13,
46:15, 46:16, 46:19,
76:4, 76:8, 76:9,
76:10, 77:15, 78:10,
78:11, 80:19, 81:2,
81:14, 82:21, 85:17
single-family [1] -
77:15
sit [1] - 91:20
situation [2] - 8:8,
40:8
situations [1] - 75:6
six [2] - 60:18, 70:3
size [1] - 28:4
slow [4] - 8:2, 8:17,
70:13, 70:14
small [1] - 13:1
social [6] - 11:4,
11:11, 11:14, 13:6,
13:25, 31:6
software [5] - 2:9,
2:11, 7:8, 7:10, 26:5
solicitation [4] - 2:9,
2:10, 7:7, 7:9
solicited [1] - 58:13
solid [1] - 53:14
solidifies [1] - 55:3
Solis [3] - 1:24, 13:21,
104:16
SOLIS [29] - 13:20,
13:22, 23:23, 27:12,
27:18, 29:10, 52:12,
52:14, 69:11, 74:4,
74:12, 75:2, 76:19,
76:22, 78:10, 102:3,
102:8, 102:23,
103:4, 104:14,
104:22, 105:6,
118:15, 118:18,
119:14, 119:20,
119:23, 120:6,
120:17
solution [1] - 40:24
someone [7] - 10:24,
40:12, 40:18, 60:8,
67:16, 109:3, 120:15
sometimes [2] -
56:23, 107:20
soon [3] - 27:8, 43:6,
75:14
sooner [3] - 92:12,
93:3, 94:20
sorry [7] - 22:12,
36:21, 76:1, 87:13,
88:10, 114:14,
119:23
sort [15] - 10:17,
12:24, 14:15, 28:21,
41:24, 46:14, 52:5,
52:10, 85:14, 86:3,
87:18, 110:16,
111:2, 112:6, 113:9
sound [1] - 22:21
Southwest [1] -
120:25
speaker [1] - 4:18
speaking [2] - 23:8,
121:3
Special [3] - 2:2, 2:7,
4:3
special [11] - 3:15,
5:1, 5:6, 61:11,
64:14, 100:17,
101:6, 101:21,
104:2, 106:16,
118:24
specific [2] - 71:10,
97:5
specifying [1] - 48:15
spoken [2] - 29:5,
116:8
sporadically [1] -
59:25
spread [2] - 28:7, 29:1
square [1] - 18:5
stab [1] - 108:25
STAFF [1] - 1:22
staff [7] - 2:10, 7:9,
16:7, 17:25, 26:3,
26:22, 31:11
staffing [1] - 100:17
stakeholders [5] -
15:8, 97:20, 111:7,
112:20, 113:24
stan [1] - 63:9
standards [1] - 95:20
Stanley [1] - 4:14
start [4] - 22:8, 75:13,
79:14, 107:5
started [3] - 3:21,
91:24, 110:22
starting [4] - 3:22,
54:17, 54:20, 75:10
state [10] - 39:3, 39:4,
39:5, 39:6, 39:8,
54:14, 78:20, 96:8,
115:12, 119:24
statement [1] - 119:10
statute [1] - 96:8
statutes [2] - 54:14,
96:12
stenographic [1] -
123:11
step [2] - 51:1
Steve [1] - 96:5
stick [2] - 18:5, 115:6
still [4] - 6:19, 24:9,
82:15, 122:7
stirred [1] - 98:19
stop [1] - 74:5
storage [3] - 20:20,
20:24, 25:11
store [1] - 21:8
straight [2] - 37:3,
77:8
Street [1] - 1:1
strengthen [1] - 64:12
strictly [1] - 118:23
structure [6] - 17:21,
17:23, 38:1, 49:22,
49:23, 99:4
structured [1] - 39:18
structures [1] - 50:1
study [1] - 100:22
stuff [13] - 13:2, 17:16,
23:12, 28:14, 31:8,
33:9, 91:6, 107:4,
111:13, 112:6,
112:10, 119:6
subject [3] - 57:17,
57:18, 91:22
subjective [4] - 63:5,
63:19, 64:9, 65:3
subjectively [1] -
65:23
submitted [1] - 2:7
substantial [1] - 64:1
sue [2] - 35:19, 36:8
suggest [4] - 4:17,
17:14, 47:17, 47:19
suggestion [9] -
13:16, 13:18, 15:22,
15:23, 55:1, 65:5,
67:24, 67:25, 95:4
suggestions [6] -
16:12, 34:7, 52:23,
64:11, 88:15, 117:5
summary [1] - 119:1
sunshine [1] - 4:7
supplied [2] - 43:21,
44:10
support [1] - 42:17
supportive [1] - 20:16
survey [1] - 107:10
system [36] - 2:11,
2:15, 2:16, 7:11,
7:19, 8:3, 8:9, 8:10,
8:25, 9:25, 14:4,
14:9, 15:9, 19:5,
19:14, 19:15, 21:1,
21:2, 21:15, 21:25,
23:24, 28:7, 29:14,
32:14, 32:17, 33:16,
37:17, 69:22, 70:4,
70:8, 70:17, 78:24,
82:4, 86:7
systems [2] - 8:23,
14:18
T
Tallahassee [11] -
51:16, 52:10, 54:12,
65:13, 81:25, 92:16,
98:12, 99:7, 107:2,
111:25, 115:8
tamper [1] - 67:3
task [1] - 81:14
tasked [1] - 81:12
tax [15] - 2:4, 2:5,
3:13, 4:1, 5:4, 6:5,
14:2, 14:21, 31:3,
31:6, 117:24,
118:25, 119:10,
120:10
Tax [3] - 2:25, 26:9,
117:18
taxes [2] - 35:3, 35:4
taxpayer [2] - 10:10,
35:5
taxpayers [2] - 40:5,
98:25
technically [1] - 18:11
technology [6] - 2:9,
2:11, 2:16, 7:8, 7:10,
32:17
temporarily [2] -
63:11, 63:12
tend [2] - 20:2, 103:16
terminology [1] -
76:11
terms [7] - 14:8,
65:10, 82:16,
102:25, 105:6,
108:5, 108:13
Terrace [1] - 121:1
THE [2] - 1:1, 23:7
themselves [2] -
14:23, 56:14
therefore [2] - 14:8,
14:25
Thereupon [1] -
122:15
they've [3] - 35:17,
66:11, 70:16
thinking [1] - 121:13
third [10] - 13:5, 21:14,
21:16, 22:9, 24:3,
24:13, 25:8, 25:10,
76:14, 111:14
thirty [2] - 27:7, 93:8
three [9] - 33:17,
43:20, 57:3, 57:4,
65:22, 69:21, 82:8,
111:19, 121:21
threw [3] - 49:9, 59:6,
60:12
throughout [1] - 44:17
throwing [2] - 38:4,
114:23
thrown [1] - 75:15
throws [3] - 78:25,
82:18, 82:19
timeframe [1] - 26:20
timeline [2] - 26:25,
27:2
timeliness [5] - 43:18,
65:21, 68:10, 73:16,
76:17
timing [1] - 13:10
today [5] - 6:13, 8:25,
33:14, 72:23, 73:3
today's [1] - 19:13
together [8] - 20:12,
21:4, 32:11, 84:7,
110:22, 112:12,
113:16, 118:14
took [1] - 75:17
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tool [1] - 115:15
tools [2] - 115:22,
115:24
tore [1] - 58:19
total [2] - 43:25,
101:11
totally [1] - 51:9
touching [2] - 43:9
tough [1] - 104:9
toward [1] - 34:16
towards [1] - 73:7
traditional [4] - 76:23,
77:19, 78:8, 82:22
trample [1] - 105:4
trampled [1] - 107:14
transcript [4] - 75:15,
84:17, 84:18, 123:10
transfer [1] - 12:22
translates [1] - 55:2
transparency [2] -
12:19, 92:1
transparent [1] -
122:9
trigger [2] - 82:10,
97:22
trouble [1] - 38:9
true [2] - 87:17,
123:11
trust [2] - 98:11, 116:2
try [6] - 15:19, 18:1,
33:12, 39:15, 59:4,
95:18
trying [11] - 18:5, 19:3,
19:10, 50:5, 57:10,
58:16, 65:12, 74:21,
78:20, 91:21, 105:2
tune [1] - 84:5
tuning [1] - 79:15
turnkey [1] - 10:17
twice [2] - 56:24, 57:3
Twitter [1] - 122:14
two [33] - 3:24, 3:25,
4:17, 10:21, 12:5,
20:23, 21:11, 34:13,
36:2, 40:15, 41:6,
48:15, 54:4, 57:4,
59:22, 59:24, 60:5,
60:8, 60:15, 60:25,
61:2, 61:8, 61:9,
63:21, 70:1, 70:2,
73:17, 86:20, 86:22,
103:13, 104:24
two-years' [1] - 61:2
type [3] - 8:8, 53:24,
111:7
types [10] - 31:25,
32:6, 34:21, 72:8,
77:9, 77:10, 77:19,
82:8, 82:20, 111:20
typically [9] - 27:20,
28:4, 37:7, 56:19,
56:23, 56:25, 57:14,
72:20, 74:4
U
uh-hum [1] - 77:12
unadjusted [2] - 2:6,
6:8
uncertified [2] - 2:3,
5:3
under [5] - 4:7, 53:25,
57:25, 77:18, 77:23
unique [2] - 11:25,
79:3
universe [6] - 9:17,
9:19, 9:21, 10:18,
13:1, 40:17
universes [3] - 10:21,
12:6, 40:16
unless [3] - 50:8,
114:20, 115:3
unquote [1] - 86:10
up [39] - 3:14, 12:14,
16:9, 23:12, 24:19,
25:16, 32:10, 33:24,
43:4, 48:6, 49:12,
49:22, 52:15, 52:16,
57:6, 57:7, 58:22,
65:13, 70:3, 75:11,
78:17, 78:18, 84:3,
92:14, 92:15, 93:14,
98:12, 98:19, 99:7,
100:20, 101:12,
101:23, 109:22,
110:11, 110:17,
115:8, 115:13,
120:15, 122:6
upholds [1] - 35:16
upped [1] - 57:3
upping [1] - 56:15
uSPAC [1] - 68:11
USPAC [4] - 39:10,
41:25, 68:15, 69:7
V
VAB [33] - 1:15, 1:24,
2:3, 2:16, 12:1, 14:6,
14:9, 14:19, 16:9,
18:10, 24:9, 27:20,
32:16, 37:25, 50:1,
50:25, 52:11, 52:16,
53:7, 53:19, 64:13,
64:17, 64:18, 96:13,
98:22, 100:16,
108:6, 108:19,
111:6, 111:10,
112:10, 118:12,
119:24
VAB's [2] - 2:22,
114:19
VABs [2] - 49:13,
114:22
vacant [2] - 44:14,
77:14
vacation [1] - 95:2
valid [1] - 39:14
Value [4] - 5:2, 66:5,
100:7, 123:8
VALUE [1] - 1:5
value [1] - 56:13
various [1] - 24:18
vendor [1] - 28:10
verbal [1] - 47:4
vested [1] - 92:9
vetted [1] - 81:23
VI [3] - 2:18, 95:23,
95:24
VIERA [12] - 5:23,
6:11, 23:9, 62:21,
79:16, 79:20, 79:22,
105:16, 105:18,
105:24, 106:5, 118:2
Viera [2] - 1:12, 3:10
VII [9] - 2:21, 95:22,
100:4, 100:5, 110:5,
110:14, 110:18,
110:20, 114:10
vIII [1] - 117:13
VIII [5] - 2:23, 114:9,
117:2, 117:11,
117:12
visiting [1] - 5:18
visual [2] - 83:2, 92:21
volume [2] - 62:20,
79:7
vote [3] - 53:20, 99:14
voting [2] - 51:14,
99:22
W
wait [1] - 117:11
waiting [2] - 44:24,
81:7
WALINSKY [1] - 80:15
Walinsky [1] - 80:15
wants [3] - 13:13,
49:20, 115:9
ways [1] - 15:14
website [4] - 12:13,
12:20, 25:12, 25:17
Wednesday [2] - 1:2,
77:1
week [16] - 36:2,
55:15, 56:20, 56:22,
56:25, 57:8, 57:12,
57:15, 58:3, 58:13,
58:14, 59:5, 59:9,
71:25, 90:8
weeks [4] - 90:9,
90:10, 121:9
weight [1] - 62:7
welcome [1] - 58:22
Wendy [1] - 80:15
whereas [1] - 86:10
whole [14] - 23:18,
36:22, 37:18, 46:20,
49:2, 50:20, 51:2,
63:21, 87:16, 89:1,
92:22, 97:21, 102:15
wiggle [1] - 74:1
wind [1] - 57:7
winds [1] - 57:6
wish [1] - 33:21
wishes [2] - 5:17,
105:10
wishing [1] - 116:20
withdrawn [1] -
119:11
wondering [1] -
118:22
word [4] - 58:15,
60:11, 63:12, 79:17
wording [1] - 52:22
words [2] - 24:7, 70:7
workload [4] - 42:9,
59:8, 59:14, 62:13
works [7] - 5:8, 41:14,
51:2, 62:16, 65:25,
79:11, 80:3
world [1] - 19:13
worth [2] - 89:16,
99:10
Wow [1] - 43:8
wrap [3] - 92:14,
92:15, 110:16
written [5] - 2:3, 4:12,
5:2, 5:10, 47:3
Y
year [18] - 2:4, 3:13,
5:4, 28:8, 28:24,
29:12, 29:16, 44:1,
44:6, 44:9, 44:17,
60:9, 60:18, 63:21,
73:7, 73:15, 94:7,
104:24
year's [1] - 28:17
years [15] - 28:8,
29:13, 59:24, 59:25,
60:8, 60:15, 60:17,
61:9, 64:15, 66:6,
66:11, 70:1, 70:2,
100:23, 101:11
years' [5] - 59:22,
60:5, 60:25, 61:2,
61:8
yesterday [1] - 9:1
yourself [6] - 69:1,
74:1, 74:16, 74:25,
76:17, 84:11
yourselves [1] - 73:24
Z
ZAPATA [217] - 5:14,
5:22, 5:24, 6:9, 6:12,
6:21, 7:1, 7:14, 9:4,
9:7, 13:15, 13:21,
15:18, 17:1, 17:4,
17:9, 17:14, 17:18,
18:17, 18:25, 20:23,
21:5, 21:12, 21:20,
22:1, 22:7, 22:18,
22:22, 22:25, 23:5,
23:16, 23:22, 24:22,
25:4, 26:2, 26:18,
26:24, 27:7, 28:12,
29:3, 29:7, 30:4,
30:9, 30:15, 30:18,
30:22, 30:25, 31:11,
31:15, 32:10, 32:20,
32:22, 33:13, 39:3,
39:13, 39:17, 42:22,
43:1, 43:4, 43:12,
43:16, 45:13, 45:17,
45:22, 46:5, 47:22,
48:2, 49:6, 49:10,
49:15, 49:19, 50:13,
51:7, 52:13, 53:11,
53:15, 54:3, 54:8,
55:16, 55:24, 56:3,
56:7, 59:19, 60:20,
60:23, 61:1, 61:4,
61:20, 62:3, 62:17,
62:23, 63:3, 63:7,
63:11, 64:10, 65:6,
65:25, 66:14, 66:21,
67:22, 68:16, 70:18,
70:21, 70:25, 71:11,
71:19, 71:22, 72:1,
72:5, 72:10, 72:18,
72:24, 73:18, 73:22,
74:2, 74:10, 74:15,
75:9, 75:20, 75:23,
76:1, 79:4, 79:8,
80:2, 80:4, 80:6,
80:11, 80:22, 82:1,
83:4, 83:7, 83:14,
83:22, 84:1, 84:12,
84:20, 86:19, 86:23,
87:1, 87:6, 88:13,
88:18, 89:14, 89:21,
90:1, 90:22, 91:3,
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91:10, 93:18, 94:6,
94:15, 94:21, 95:3,
95:8, 95:13, 95:16,
96:19, 97:13, 98:1,
98:5, 98:11, 99:21,
100:24, 101:13,
101:17, 101:25,
102:4, 102:17,
103:6, 103:12,
103:18, 103:23,
104:4, 104:8,
104:15, 105:4,
105:13, 105:17,
106:3, 106:11,
106:18, 108:24,
109:6, 109:24,
110:4, 110:9,
110:18, 112:13,
112:16, 113:7,
113:11, 113:17,
113:25, 114:7,
114:10, 114:14,
114:16, 115:1,
115:5, 115:23,
116:7, 116:12,
116:17, 117:4,
117:8, 117:12,
117:14, 117:24,
118:4, 118:8, 120:4,
120:21, 121:4,
121:11, 121:17,
121:22, 122:7
Zapata [4] - 1:11, 3:8,
13:12, 100:11