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Doorkeeper: nA11 persons not entftled to the House floor, !

please retire to the gallery-''

Speaker Redmond: HWe plan to recess until the 1:00 right after

the prayer to permit the Committees to put more bills on

the floora and request themo.. . .he can do it nov or he

can..... The House wfll ceme to orden please be fn the

seats. We will be lead fn prayer by the Reverend

Krueger: the House Chaplain.n

Reverend Krueger: fon the Name of the Father. the Soa: and the

2o1y Chost. Amen . 0 Lord, bless this House to Thy

service thfs day. Amen. John Ruskin observed: The

entire obleet of true education is to make people not' .' merely do the right thing, but enjoy the xight thingsy

not merely iadustrious, but to love industry; no: merely

' ' , learneds but to love knowledge; not merely pure

a but to

' love purity; not merely justy but to bunger and thirst

after justice. Let us pray. Almfghty Gody Who art the

. 'm' Father of a11 knowledge, the Gfver of a11 fntellect, the

Source of a11 wisdom; grant to the Members of this Illfnois

Bouse of Representatives the inspiration of Thy H()1y

Spirit that they may in a11 things seek the highest

' perfection of performance in a11 that they may wishy in

a11 that they may thfnk: and in a11 that ehey aay do.

Provide themy O Lordy with such power and grace, that

they may ever perceive the essence of Thy will which is

for the benefit and good of a11 the people of the State

of Illinofs. We ask this in the Kaue of Christ our

Lord. Amen.''

Speaker Redmond: ''The House will stand in recess until 1:0QJE C E S S

eaker Redmond : ''The House wf 11 cont inue in recess until 1: 30P

to permit Human Resources to f inish up . That ' s what we

are af raid of .''

1'Mr Clerk do yotz have an announcement ? $1Speaker Redmond : . y

lerk O ' Brien : ''Yesterday there was a coat 1ef t fn Room 30 Jè

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in the Stratton Building. Yesterday the County and

Township and Public Utilit#lcommittees met in that room

and there was a coat left. It is now on the third floor.

North end reception desk, ff it's your coat..ono size

announced. The initials K.K.K.''

Speaker Redmond: *'We will stand in Perfunctory Session.

Human Resources stfll :as a few Bills to get out and if

we don't do that we will bave to work tommorrow so.....

Perfùnctory Sessfony-reâdœthe thè Committee Reportso''

Clerk O'Brfen: ''Committee Reports.' Representative Mapns

Chairman 'from the Committee on Judiciary ly.to which the

following Bills were referred; action taken May 3, 1978,

reported the same back with the following recommeadàtions;

do pass House Bills 2947. 3009, 3218. Do pass Coasent

Calendar House Bill 3372. Do pass as amended House Bill

2578, 2995, 2604, and 2772. Do not Pass House Bills

2686, 2820, and 2846. Do not pass as amended House Bi11

1914. Tabled in Committee House Bi11 3082. Representativ

Matijevich, Chairman of Committee on Appropriations I#

which tlte following 3i11s are zeferred; action taken

May 3, 1978: reported the same back with the following

recommendations; do pass House Bi11 3050, Senate Bill

1516. Do pass âs amended, House Bill 2529, 2870, 2927.

2984, and 2988. Representative Yourell, Chairman of the

Committee on counties and Townships, which the fotlowing

Bflls were referred; action taken May 3, 1978, reported

the same back with the following recommendations; do pass

House Bills 2607, 2666, 2834, 2835, 2854, 3097, 3201,

3219. and 3269. Do pass as amended House Bflls 2688,

2702, 2853, 2941 and 3260. Representative Caldwells

Chairman of the Committee on Public Utilities, which the

following Bills were referred; actfon taken May 3. 1978,

reported the same back with the followfng recommendations

do pass as amended House Bill 2950 and 3053.

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Representative Schisler Chairman of the Committee on

Agriculturea to which the following Bills were referred;

actlon taken May 4, 1978 reported the same back with#

h llowin'g recommendations; do pass as amended Houset e fo

Bill 3349. Representative Mctendon, Chairman of the

Committee on Personnel and Pensfons, to whfeh the

following Bills were referred; action taken May 3. 1978

reported the same back with the following reeommendations;

do pass House Bfll 2599. 2753. 2945, and 3203. Do pass as

amended House Bi11 1803. Representative EweT:-. - >

' Chairman.of the Commâttee on Hféher Educatfony whfch the

following Bills were referred; May 4, 1978, reported the

same back with the following recommendations; do pass

House Bill 2549, 26361 2767, 2818y 2963. 3014, and 3312.

Do pass as amended House Bfll 3274. Representative

VonBoeckman, Chairman of the Conmittee on Motor Vehicles:

to which the following Bills were referred; actfon taken'

May 4. 1978, reported the same back with the following

recommendations; do pass House Bill 1788. 2687. and 3108.

Do not pass House Bills 3213 and 3294. Do pass as amende

House Bflls 1884. 2106. 2656, and 3079. Representative

Jacobs. Chairman of the Committee on Labor and Commercey

whfch the following Bills were referred; actfon takea

May 3, 1978, reported the same back with the following

recommendations; do pass House Bill 2593. Do pass as

amended House Bill 2594, 2661, 3023, and 3177.''

SpeakeT Redpond: l'Introduction, First Reading. Perfunctoryy''

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 3376. McMaster, a Bill for an Act

to amend Sectfons of the Environmental Protection Act.

Ffrst Readtng of the Bi11.

Committee Reports. Representative E.M. Barnes: Chairuan

of the Commfttee oa Appropriations Itywhich the following

. Bills were referred; aetion taken May 3. 1978, reported

the same back with the following recommendations; do pas

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as amended House Bfll 2730 2985 and 2987. A message> #

from the Senate by Mr. Wright Secretary. Mr. Speakera$

1 am directed to inform the Kouse of Representatfves that

the Seaate had adopted the following Preamble aad Joint

Resolutfoa. The adoption of which 1 have been instructedw

to ask concurrence to the Rouse of Representives to wit:

Senate Jofnt Resolution 82, adopted by the Senate May 4y'

1978. Kenneth Wright: Secretaryof'

Speaker Rednond: nThe House will come to order. Members please

be in their seats. House Bill Second Readfng. Roll Call

for attendance. Oh, no..no...we11, that's à11 rfght. O.K.

Human Resources has adjouraed but they are not here yet,

so . Representative Ryankl'

Ryan:vllThank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

Hoùse. I am pleased today to welcome, on the Republïcan

. side of the Rfsles a new Representativey Representative

- uilliam Margalus, from tbe 23rd Legislative District....

right back here with hfs family. Bill was born in

Chicago and attended Chicago public schools. He has been

active in many community organizations over the years.

Re served as President of the Bridgeport Lions Club the

. Bridgeport Betterment Associatioa and the Polish sational

Alliance Group 1460. Re has been a Director of the

Bridgeport Chamber of Commerce. Durinq World War 1% he

served as Chafrman of the War Bonds Drive and Lieutenant

. Commander fn the Office of Civil Defense. Bfll has serve

as Senatorial Committeeman for four years fn the 23rd

District. He and his wife Agnes have two married

chfldren, a son Willtam and a daughter Venita and five

grandchildren and I believe part of the family is in the

back wfth bim and we would like to welcome Representative

Margalus.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Margalus.n

Margalus: 'tThaak you, tadies and Gentlemen. For me it is a

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great honor and grivllege to be a Member of this

honorable office and I hope to serve to the best of I

' (my abilities.so you a11 will be proud of me. My onlysad event about this thing is that I have to take this

seat under these conditfons. 1 wish they were better,

but it is one of those things tbat we can't helps but

I am replacing a very good frlend of mfne and I'm sure

he was a friend of a good many of you people too.

Thank you.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Ryans''

Ryan: ''Wel1y thank youy Mr. Speaker. I am also pleased to

welcome Philip Bianco, Jr. to the Republican side of the

chambers from the 25th District. Representatfve Bianco

is a lifelong resident of the 25th Distrfct. He fs a

graduate of Kelly High School and attended the Depaul

College of commerce. He is currently a Stace Central

Committeemaa and Eas been active in the 23rd Ward

Repubtlcan organization. He is a member of the Garffeld

Ridge Amerfcan Legion Post and has held offices fn :

numerous civic organfzatfons such as the Garffeld Ridge

Civïc League.and tbe Garffeld Ridge council of

Organfzatfons. He fs herertoday with his wife Patricia

and they have Lwo children, a daughter Pamela and a son

Philip Matthewy aad they are here behfnd us back here with'

#rllr. Speaker.

Speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative Bianco.''

Bfanco : HMr. Speakery Minority Leader Ryan: fellow Represeatativ s,

Ladies and Gentlemens guestsy my family, it is indeed an

honor to be here in these hallowed halls and to be able

to serve the people of Illfnois. I must reiterate what

my good friend here Bf11 saidythat under other conditions

ft would be much more Joyoussbut nevertheless lt is stfll

an honor and I am deeply gratiffed to have thfs I

opportunfty,... I would just lfke to say that 1 noticed

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that we are in a back row here and there is a fire

extinguisher baek here and 1 have heard that things

get pretty hot in here once in awhilek. sop.emaybe...

that's kind of indicative. And also ft fs nice to

be tn the back here where we can get away to the men's

room every onee in auhile: since 1 do have weak kid'neys,

I would lfke to say thank you very much for the kindness

and the warm welcome that we have received here and I am

looking forward to working with a11 of you and for the

People of Illinois aad the people of my district.

Thank you very much.''

Speaker Redmond: ''House Bi11: Second Readfng. House Bill

Second Readfng appears House Bfll 3230 Representatfve>

Giorgis'is that the one called? .3230.''

lerk O'Brien: îlHouse Bill 3230. A Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of an Act makfng approprfations for the ordfnary

and contingent expense of the IndusLrial Commission.

Seeond Reading of the Bi11. Am'endment //1 was adopted in

Committeewu

peaker Redmond: l'Take it out of the zecord for a minute. 2926.

No. There ts a fiscal note on it. 2969.:$

lerk O'Brien: ''House Bi11 2969. A Bill for an Act to provide

for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the Local

Governmental Law Enforcement Officersg Training Board.

Second Readiné of the Bitt. Amendment //1 and 2 were

adopted in Committee.fl

peaker Redmond: HAny motions in respect to Amendments 1 and 2?'1

lerk O'Brien: ''No motions filed.''

peaker Redmond: ''Any Amendment from the floor?''

lerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.''

peaker Redmond: 'Qhfrd Reading. 2970.''

lerk O'Brien: nHouse Bi11 2970. A Bill for an Act. . . .H

peaker Redmond: f'Representative Schlickmaa -''

chlickman: MA point of order, Mr. Speaker. I thought it was

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customary to hold a Bill unless the Sponsor fs here.''

Speaker Redmond: HNot necessarily. There is no motion ffled.

Thebe is no Amendment of the floor. I am trying to get !

everything fn the passage stage.'l

Schlickman: ''Doesnft the Sponsor have to call it?l'

Speaker Redmond: DNo. No. If he has an Amendmenty we will i:

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brfng ft back. Welll bring ft back. You vouldn't object '

under those circumstances. Not nice little Walt.s'

Schlickman: f'Mr. Speakerw''

Speaker Redmond: HThe Chair recognizes Ceo-Karfse''

Schlickman: ''I will trust that the record will show that

Representative Walsh and I object.'î

Speaker Redmond: ''Let the record show that Represantative

Walsh and.... Represéntative Geo-Karisy are yau

oblecting?''

Geo-Karis: ''Mr. Speaker and tadies and Gentlemen of the House,

to digress a bit in the usual business, I'd like to

introduce a Central Junior High School from Zion and

represented by Representatfve Matijevfch Representative

Griesheimer: and myself and we welcomelMr. Valrougle,ê

#Mr. Kallerz'and 'Miss Reiker' and Mr. Teimeyer. And

let's show some courtesy to our gang.''

Speaker Redmond: MTbe record wtll show that Walsh and Ii!

Schllckman objeeL. 2970.''

Clerk OlBrien: ''House Bill 2970. A Bill for aa Act to provide

the ordinary and contingent expenses of the commission

on Delinquency Prevention. Second zgadfng of the Bil1.

Amendments #1 and 2 were adopted in Committeeo''

Speaker Redmond: ''Are there any motions wtth respect to those. I

iAmendments or any Amendment from the floor.''

Clerk O'Brien: HNo motions or,.further Amendments.dî'

Speaker Redmond: HThird Reading. .2977.1'

clerk OlBrien: ''House Bill 2977. A Bill for an Act toI

provide for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the

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Department of Insurance. Second Reading of the Bi11.I

No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: HAny Amendments from the floor?'' I

Clerk O'Brien: ''Amendment //1 failed in Committee.'' i

Speaker Redmond: 'fAre there any Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk o'Brien: ''Floor Amendment //2, Kane, amends House

Bills 2977 and so forth.''

Speaker Redmond: 'Q s Representative Kane on the floor?''

Representative Epton.''

' Epton: #'Mr. Speakery Ladies and Gentlemen of the House y I

discussed this Amendment with Representative Kaney-and

the Director of Insurance went to see him and providéd

him with the information that he requfred and it is my

understanding that Representative Kane is withdrawing

this Amendment. I would prefer it go to the Third

Reading. However, if for any reasoa I am fn errory- and Representative Kane wants to proceed with the

Amendmenty.l'll be happy to bring it baek.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 2983. Represeatative

Matilevfcb.n

atijevfch: ''We11....I'd rather talk to...I don't want to

cause any problems, Bernies but Ird rather talk to Doug

Kane myself as Chairmannof the Approprfations Commfttee

before we move it. Is that alt.right? I don't think

that wfll cause any difficulties.l'

Speaker Redmond; '1We11 if the.... the Sponsor has no objection,

but lettne suggest that the Chair really thinks that

Sponsors of Amendments should be on the floor whe'n I1m

trying to move the business of the House along, so that

we're in a Position to adjourn. It makes ft difficult

when we have al1 of these difficulties. On this one

jy rl 'W y We.....

atijevlchz ''Mr. Speakera I can see it *1th other Billsy but 1I don't tbink that necessarily holds with Appropriation

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,,Speaker Redmond: Well, I just say that it seems to me that

a Sponsor should be on floor and fn terms of trying to

move the business of the House I would prefer but in

this case we hold it on Second Reading and we'll bring

ït back. It is difficult enough to try to move this

thing along so 2983.''

Clerk O'Brien: 'lHouse Bi11.....P

Speaker Redmond: 1:2983.f'

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 2983. A Bi11 for an Act making

appropriations for the ordinary and eontingent expenses

of the Commissioner of Banks and Trust Companies.

Second Readfng of the Bf11. Amendment //1 failed in

Committee. Amendment //2 h-as adopted fn Committee.''

Speaker Redmond: HAny motion Qith respect to Amendment 72?'1

Clerk O'Brfen: MNo motfon ffled.''

Speaker Redmond: 'lAny Ameadmeats from the floorîîf

Clerk OîBrien: ''No further Amendments.l'

Speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 2989.î'

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bfll 2989. A Bill for an Act making

appropxïations for the ordfnary and contingent expenses

of the Pollution Control Board. Second Reading of the

Bill. No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: 'tAny Amendments from the floor?n

Clerk O'Brien: ''None.''

Speaker Redmond: nThird Reading. 2998.'6

Clerk OrBrien: ''House Bi11 2998. A Bill for an Act to amead

the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading of the Bi11.

Amendment //1 was adopted in Committee.''

Speaker Redmond: f'Any Amendmentsxmwauy motions with respect

to Amendment //1.''

Clerk OlBrien: ''No motion filed.'r

Speaker Redmond: nAny Amendments from the floor?n

clerk O'Brfen: HNo further Amendments.u

Speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 2999.''

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Clerk 0 ' Brien : NDouse. B$l1, 2%9.9.. A BJ2l1 f or an Act to amend Sectfons of

the Secre tary of State Merf t Employment Cede . Second

Reading of the Bi1l. Aaendment //1 was adopted fn

Committee.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any motions with respect to that Amendment?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''No motion filed.''

Speaker Redmond: HAny Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.n

Speaker Redmond: 'Qhtrd Reading. 3002/'

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 3002. A Bfll for an Act to add

Sections o'f the Illinois Local Library Act. Second

Readtng of the Bi11. No Committee Amendments.'f

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk o'Brien: ''Amenduent #1y Yourell, amends House Bill

3002: on page 1 by deletlng line 1 and 2 and so forth.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Richmond. Representative

Yourell, Sponsor of the Amendment, proceed.l'

Yourell: fîThank you Mr. Speaker. Ladies aad

Gentlemeù of the House, Amendment //1. to House Bill

3002 actùally represents House Bill 2939, which was

to have been a Committee Bill in Counties and Townshfps

but was introduced too late for consideration for that

order of business. That's the rationale for Amendment

//1. to House Bill 3002: sponsored' by Representative

Rfchmoads ft provfdes for a one tiae supp.lemental five

cent tax for public lfbraries subject to' provisions of t e

backdoor referendum. Presently publfc libraries may tax

up to fifteen cents wfthout a referendum and up to forcy

cents wfth a full referendum. Approximately bne half

o f t h e s t a t e 1 s 5 6 7 l i b r a r i e s a r e t ax in g a t f i f t e en c en t s

or ab ove . Amendmen t 11 1 wo ul d allow the s e p ub li c 1ib rar ie

t o i nc r e a s e t h e 1 r p r e s en t t ax r a t e b y f iv e c e n t s on a .

' one time basis subj ect again to the

r o v i s i on s o f th e ly a c k d o p r r e f e r en d um . Th e - t a x p a ye. r h a s .P

tt h i r t y d a y s a f t e r th e le vy i s in c r e a s e d t o f i 1 e a p e t i t i o

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with 10Z or 1500 voterss whichever is less, requesting th

'action to the Library Board to be submitted to the

voters at the next general election. This Amendment

satisfies the objection raised by the Governor in vetoing

House Bill 605 in the last Sessfon of the General

Assembly. Ihe supplemental five cent tax levy and the

additional levy would be ditficult for the electorate

to understand and follow. The Governor also mentioned

that 50Z of the statels public liabraries would not be

affected by House Bill 605 because their levy was less

than 15 cents. Additionally, public libraries in

Illinois have received less state funding through the

library systems in the past three fiscal years. This

Amendmeat will give a small amount of relief and

additional income to those libraries with the fnnovative

and outstanding programs that have been expanded even

though state poniep have decreased. I urge favorable

support of Amendment //1 of House Bill 3002.11

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Skinner.''

Skinner: ''I wonder if the Sponsor would be willing to put

a small additional Amendment on the Bill which would

require tbe Lfbrary District Boards who fs going to raise

their taxes with this backdoor referendum to have the

petitions available in the libraryy so that the

individuals would not have to hire a lawyer to draw the

petitionv''

Speaker Redmond: l'Representative Yourell.ll

Yourell: MYes that's agreeable.n

Speaker Redmond: ''Thank you. What's your pleasure wlth respec

to the posture of the Billy Representative Richmond?l'

Richmond: 'Qhank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of

the House. The hyphenated Sponsor, Ralph Dunn: and t

have no objection to this Amendment.n

speaker Redmond: nWe11...is the Amendment in the form now

that...o.Representative Yourell.''

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ourell: ''Yes that is correc: Mr. Speakeron !> . I

Speaker Redmond : ''We11. .do you want this amended ? ''

11 '1Y well ' '' ' ' '' ' ' iOure : e5. . . . . . . .

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Skinner requested an Anendment

t o the Amen dmen't . .' Kow d o y o u wan t Amen dinen t # 1 ''the Floor

Amendment.... ''

Yourell: HNo...H

Speaker Redmond: ''Or do you want to just hold it here and get

an Amendment that satisfies his requirements?

Representative Skinner.''

Skfnner: ''I have no objection to adopting Amendment //1.

1111 have Anendment //2 prepared and bring ft to

Representative Yourell. Let's adopt Amendment //1 and

hold it on Second.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Questioes on adoption of Amendment //1.

Those in favor say 'éye' opposed 'no' the 'ayes': #

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- have it. Motion carried. The Amendment is adopted.

Any further Amendmeatsr'

Clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.''

speaker Redmond: ''We'1l hold it on Second Reading. 3024.

Representative Beatty. 3024. 0ut of the record. 2977.

I understand Representative Kane is on the floor now.''

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 2977. A Bill for Act to provide

for the ordinary and contingent expenses of the

Department of Insurance. Second Readtng of the Bi11.'1

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative...do you have a Floor

' Amendment?''.

j u jz uaae ,1Clerk 0 Brlen: Floor Amendment , .

speaker Redmond: 'êRepresentatfve Kane .'l

Kane: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemea of the Houses I

move to table Amendment //2.9'

Speaker Redmond: nRepresentative Kane withdraws Amendment...

is this Amendment //1 or 2... //1 failed Committeey

Amendment 2. Amendment 12 has been wtthdrawn, .

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are there any further Amendments?''

lerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 3035. Representative Ryanl''

Ryan: ''Mr. Speaker I'd like to take this opportunity to

fntroduce the gentleman in the balcony that is with the

Illinois Supreme Court Justice, Howard Ryan. Justice

Howard Ryan in the Illinofs Supreme Court ia the balcony''

Speaker Redmond: ''3035.66

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 3035. A Bill for an Act authorizing

the Department of Mental Hea1th and Developmental

Disabilities to convey certain real property to the

City of Anna. Second Reading of the Bi11. No

Committee Amendmentsw''

Speaker Redmond: HAny Amendments from the floorî''

Clerk O'Brien: ''None.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 3039.'1

Clerk O'Brien: 'fHouse Bill 3039. A Bill for an Act to amead

the Illinois Insurance Code. Second Reading of the Bi11.

No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: HAny Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk G'Brieu: ''None.n

Speaker Redmond) ''Thïrd Readlng. 3040.î'

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bill 3040.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Houlfhan.''

Houlihan: 'Qake 3040 out of the record please. Representative

Schlickman has an Amendment...l haven't read the

Amendment yet...if we could take it out as quicko..o''

Speaker Redmond: 'lout of the record. 3041. 3041...1s there

any problem *1th that one? 3041.:9

clerk O'Brien: HHouse Bi11 3041. A Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of the Illinois Insùrance Code. Second

Reading of the Bi11. No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk O'Brien: nNone.n

Speaker Redmond: 'fThird Reading. 3077.11

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Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 3077. A Bill for an Act making

appropriations for the ordinary and contingent

expenses of the Dangerous Drugs Commission. Second

Readfng of the Bi11. Amendments //1 and 2 were adopted

in Committee.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any motions with respect to Amendments

//1 and 2?ê'

Clerk O'Brien: nMotion...l move to table Amendment /J1 by

Representative Peters-l'

Speaker Redmond: NRepresentative Peterswfî

Peters: ''Mr. Speaker, I would appreciate it if we could take

this out of the record now.''

Speaker Redmond: 'fWhat was the request there? Take the

Bfll out of the record. 3088.1'

Clerk OlBrien: l'House Bill 3088. A Bill for an Act in

relation to township governmentz

Speaker Redmond: HOut of the record. Is 3088 out of ehe

record? 3111. The fiscal note has been filed. 3111.d'

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 3111. A Bfll for an Act tq amend

Sactfons of.The Cfvil Adofifstrative Code. Second

Reading of the Bf11. No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk O'Brien: HNone.''

Speaker Redmond: HThird Readfng. 3112. Haa the fiscal note

been filpd?''

Clerk OrBrien: Hlt is filed. House Bill 3112. A Bill for

an Act requiring reimbursement to local-..to units...

Speaker Redmond: ''Represeatative Yourell. 0ut of the record.

3113. Out of the record. 3114. 0ut of the Record. You

look lfke an umpire. Out. 3117. ''

Clerk O'Brien: l'House B11l 3117.''

Speaker Redmond: ..3120. O.K. O.K.''

Clerk o'Brien: ''House Btll 3120. A Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of the Capital Development Board. Second

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Reading.of the Bill. No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor?'l

Clerk O'Brien: nNoaew'l

Speaker Redmond: MThird Reading. 2969 oa Thfrd Readingy

We will return that to the Order of Second Reading.''

Clerk OlBrlen: Hon House Bfll 2969 there fs a motfon ffled...

or there was a motion filed to table Committee.

Amendment //2.:'

Speaker Redmond: ''Who filed the motion?n

Clerk O'Brien: ''Representative Peterso''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Petersy on the motion that.

with respect to Amendment //2.1:

Peters: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,

what Amendment 2...first of a11 House Bill 2969....1s

tbe appropriation for the Police Training Board in the

amount of one million...l'm sorryy two mtllion one>

' hundred and forty-four thousand dollars. Wbat

Amendment 2 does fs add one millow one hundred and

thirty-one thousand in general revenue funds to the

Police Training Board....''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Geo-Karis, are you seeking

recognitionr You had your hand up.î'

Peters: ''In vkew of the expressed desire of most Members of

the General Assembly to put some fiscal restraint on

our spending in terms of general revenue fundsy it seems

to us that toqihcrease a two million one hundred

thousand dollar project by another one million one

hundred and thirty-one thousaad dollars is a very

large increase especially when down the road we will

be looking for added and addlt'tonal funds for m.ental h ealth,

education and other kinds of problems. Now there is no

dispute to the fact that we do need to expand our Police

Training Program. There. is no dispute to the fact that

local governments have not been receiving full funding

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in terms of money for poltce traiaing. But if we are

talking about atteapting to prioritize (sic) where we

are going to spend what funds are available: if we are

in fact going to end up cuttfng other budgets fn order

to find money for education, it 'seems to me...it seems

to me totally and completely in error Jn our part to add

Ione milliom one hundred thousand dollars to this budget'

in general revenue fuad money when we are cutting money

out of the Dangerous Drug Commission, when we are cutting

the Commfssfon on Human Relations and when we are cutting

Fair Employment Practices Commission and other

Commissions of this nature. It just does not make sense

and I would move for the tablin: of this Amendment.

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Madfgan . Representative

Roman Kosfnskip''

Kosinski: OMr. Chairman y Ladies and...D

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Kosinskfm''

osfnskf: l'Mr. chafrman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housey

when we think of gfving priority, we must have certaln

other uoaslderatlons and l think chis is fmpoztant to

everyone of you from a local communityy so please give

me your attention. Everyone of you suffers from a tax

problem. Now what Mr. Peters is attempting to do is

negate our mandate where by the state provfdes 50Z of

the fundfng for a11 loeal unfts for Police trainfng in '

service and in schools. Obvfouslyy the heat you are

gofng to get that this funding will then come from your

local community, which fs over taxed in al1 taxes fncludin

real estate right now. This Legislature in its wisdom

mandated a 50Z funding for this effort. I want to tell I

h d ivhai's occurred 'tp youryou what as oaeurred an

communitfes, your towns, your villages your ciries over

q : jthe last several years: as thfs hlts you right in the

pocketbook; Wellywe mandated a 50Z funding in 1976. that

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In 1977 it went down further to a 37.5 of that full

50Z reimbursement. In 1978 it dropped to 32.6 of the

full 50Z reimbursement. And the projection for 1979 is

that it will drop to 31.6 of the full 50Z refmbursement.

Thfs means...thfs means fntthe hfgh prforty of 1a* and

order either you don't get funding for your muafcipalities

in terms of their need for police trainingy you have

incompletely trained pblice on the street or you vill

be hit in your personal poeketbook in your community in

terms of this need. Now this is a delayed effect that I

am warning a11 of us here. zlhe delayed effect is this

you will get the repescussions if we donlE put thts on.

You legis...You legislated.the mandates I legislated the

the mandate, this has a high priority 1aw and order and

it is imperative that this Amendment remain on. Thank'

jyyou.

Speaker Redmond: 'HRepresentative Totten.''

Totten: 'fWell,thank you Mr. Speaker, 1 find that the Sponsor

of the Amendment is apparently quite hypoeritical over the

means ih which he attacks the budget this year. In a11

the Appropriation committees and èjembers of that side of'

thesatsfe - are trylng co cut dollars from the budget

and al1 of a sudden we have a one million dollar

addittoa under q ytsnomer because there fs no. mandate

that this be 50Z funded. The statute clearly indfcates

that the mandate is fpr the program but the funding can

be up to 50:. For us to fuad at the 50Z level and add

this one million dollars thfs year would be highly

fiscatly irresponsible and Iêm surprised that the Members

from that side of the aisle is continually voting to cut

budgets would put money'in this amounty in this.fashion,

for a nonmandate in this budget. And would

respectfully request support of the motion to table this

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Amendment.'î

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative McAuliffe. McAuliffeon

McAuliffe: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,'

! !I would have to rise to op pose Representative Peters

motion. even though he is my seatmate. This money is

betng speat very wisely. It is being spent to upgrade

th e educatfon of police efffcers b0th in Chicago and 1

downstate. 'art of the uay the money is spent in Chicago

fs for inservice traiaing. They brfng thirteen or

fourteen thousand policemen and give them specialized

trafning ln riot control. Currently they have a class

going on, mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, in case a police

officer comes upon someone who has a heart attack.

Bu2 they will a11 be qualified tc' give resuscitation

to a heart vfctfm. Thfs money fs spent fn a good

Ch i a o beca'use Icausey I know it is a good cause in c g

see how ft is spent myself. I know the people downstate

a1SO need this money. If the money is nOt Provided for

police training it will have to eome out of loeal

property taxes. I can speak from firsthand knowledge

ok' the Chicago Police l'raining Division where I work:

I know how the money is spent. Chicago Police Department

is constantly hiring new policemen under Federal Court

Orders. They must hire policemen. They have to take

some of these policemen 'they are hiring and give them!!remedlal reading courses. They have to come in at seven i

o'clock in the morning and take remedial reading courses,

a fifth grade course, so they need thls money. This is

where the money is going: and I urge you to defeatI

Representatfve Peters' motion.'?

S k R dmond; nRepresentativ'e Matijevich.npea er e

Matfjevicb: #'Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House.

Many of us have been proposing cuts in the budget this

year. However, there are sometimes when :cuts are

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illusoryy they are not real. We know that we need

pèlice training, so we have a choice...there are only

tko choicesy whether the State of Illinois is going

to pay for this training or local government. And we

have had a....I think what has been a good concept fn

the state pfckfng up money for trafnfng of police offïcers,

aandated. That's right, we mandated. Now another thiag

I would lfke to remfnd aJ.1 of you fn the House; remtmber

when we had that Bi11 last Session that said that we

would add on certain fees for those violations, traffic

violations and such for police training Many of you

were on the floor of the House opposing that saying that

we should pay the tab for traiiing and we shouldn't add

on a tax to vfolators. Thatês what you called ït. A1l

this Amendment does is make us honest from our actions of

last year in pur'failure to pass that type of

' legislation. So I say that this Amendment must be

adopted. We have made those mandates for police

tralning and I therefore request your support of

Amendment lI2 to....to keep this soney thereoRê .

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Conti.''

Conti: HMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of tbe House I

am not going to belabor this point. I think

Representative Kosinski has said it well. I just want

to give you from past experience that a11 these mandated

programs that come under these munidipalitiess if they

donlt meet the certafn requirements, the training

requirements, not only don't they receive other grants

for new radio equipment but we àretmaadating these

programs and if you're gonna cut this down...anyoae

interested fn their own communities, their own police

department and fire department should take a good look

at this Amendment and defeat it.''

Speaker Redmond: 'îRepresentative Cene Barnes. Gene Baraes.lt

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Barnes: lohank you very much. Mr. Speaker and Members of

the House: I want...l don't want to belabor the pofnty

I think that b0th Repreo..the previous speaker and

Representative Kosinski was cogent to the point. Here

we are, and I am sure that the Members of this Body,

does not want to pass on to their local government and

their local people the responstblity that is clearly,

clearly a-state responsiblfty and to go back home and

tell their local people that we are passing that

responsibtlity on to them. I don't think that is the

reason we were sent here. . I concur with Representative

Kosinski totally in that we should not allow this motfon

to carry but to keep that responsibility of local

governments and fund this much needed Police Training

Program.''

Speaker Redmond:'JddAre you ready for the question?''

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Representative Feters to close the debate.' The questiods

on the Gentlemen's motion to table Amendment //2 to

House Bill 2969. Those in favor say 'aye'. opposed

'no ' . Those sn favor vote 'aye' those opposed vote

'no '. Have a11 voted who wish? Representative Ryan,

please be in your seat. Have a11 voted who wish?

The Clerk wfll take the record. On this questionuit's

65 'aye and 91 'no' and the Gentlemenfs motion to table

failed. Any further motions with respect to 2969?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''No further motionsw'l

Speaker Redmond: DAny further Amendments from the floor?'î

Clerk O'Brfen : nNo further Amendmentso''

Speaker Redmond: ''Third Readlng. Representative Bowman,

for what purpose do you rise?''

Bowman: ''Mr. Speaker....

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Bowman.'l

Bowman: ''Yesyl was off the floor when the Attendenee Roll

Call was takenyand I would like to..the record to show

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that I am present todayo'''

Speaker Redmond: nDoes the Gentlemen have leave to be added

to the Roll Call he Was absent..... Can you prove yeurre

here? You will be added to the Roll Call. 3131.

Representative Dawsonm''

Clerk O'Brien: nHouse Bi11 3131. A Bi11 for an Act to amend

Sectfons of The Illinofs Vehicle Code. Second Reading

of the Bi11. Amendmeat //1 was adopted in Committeew''

Speaker Redmond: HAny Amendments from the flooro..or any

motfons wfth respect to Amendment //1?91

Clerk OrBrien: ''No motions filed.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk O'Brfen: ê'Floor Xmendment #zy'vonRoeckman, amends

House Bill 3131 on page 2 by delettng line 4 and so '

forthvîf

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative VonBoeckman. Please give

the Gentleman order. Representative VonBoeckman.''

VonBoeckman) HMr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

Houses all this fs a cleanup ' Amendment and I appreciate

your support.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any further discussfon. Representative

Totten.''

' Totten: HThank you, Mr. Speaker. First of a11 I think there is

a technical error on the Amendment that says 3132 and t

think we are on 3131.''

Speaker Redmond: ''We are oa 3131.11

Totten: 'Qhe copy of the Amendment I have I think says 3132.

Speaker Redmond: 'fNo.'1

Totten: 'Q think ft appears twice. I secondly, would like

an explanation of the techafcal change.''

Speaker Redmond: 'fRepresentatfve VonBoeckman is he correct

j. n ''

vonnoeckman: HHe fs correct. It fs 3132 and it's a technfcal

IfAmendment.

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Speaker Redmond: H .corrected on its face to show 3131.

No objection wfll be corrected on its face. The

Kmendment evidently refers to 3132 and it should refer to

3131, so wfll you make that change: Mroclerk? The

Aloor Amendment..3l3l. Maybe in the body of it. does ,

it refer to 3132.',

Clerk ofBrien: nIt appears twice.'l

VonBoeckman: ''Mr. Speaker, it is right in the Amendment.''

. Speaker Redmond: HWe have it in the one we have up here,

Mr. Totton. Axe they giving you the wroag Amendments

aBainîo

Totton: 1'We11y would you read the LRBznu/ber on this

Amendment?''

Clerk O'Brien: ''LRB 80-8990 AM/AL/JP.''

Totten: ''O.K. Does that have 3131 on itk''

Clerk O'Brien: ''Amends House Bi11 3131 on page 2 by deleting

- line G and inserting in lieu thereof the following.''

Speaker Redmond: 'Qxplain the Amendment theny Representattve

VonBoeckman.f'

Von Boeckman: ''A1l it does ïs take out a kn' and put anear

in place of it.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any further questions? Questfon is on the

Gentlemen's motion for the adoption of Amendment #2.

Those in favor say 'aye'. Qpposed fno'. The 'ayes'

have ft. Motfon carrfed. $he Amendmen: ls adopted.

Any further Amendments from the floor?n

Clerk O'Brlen: ''No further Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: 'fThird Reading. Representative Luccoo''

tucco: ''Thank you Mr. Speaker. tadies and Gentlemen of the

House, I would like to introduce to you a group of

students from a elementary school in Chicagos St. Franeis

Desales, represented by Representatfve Dawson. Giglioy

and Collins. Glad to have you here .''

VonBoeckman: 'lGive me Amendment on 31.. .

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peaker Redmond: 193132.',

lerk O'Brien: nMouse Bill 3132. A Bil1 for aa Act to amend

Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Reading

ft 1of the Bi11. Ameudment //1 was adopted in Committee.

peaker Redmond: ''Any motion vith respect to Amendment //1?''

lerk O'Brien: ''No motion filed.l'

peaker Redmond: HAny Amendment from the floor?

lerk O'Brien: NFloor Amendment //2, VonBoeckman, amends House II

Bi11 3132 as amended by deleting part of Section 1 and

so fortho''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative VonBoeckman.''

VonBoeckman: ''This Ameudment comes from the Secretary of

State's office to clean up language in the Bil1.''

Speaker Redmond: HIs there any discussion on the Ameadaent?

Question's on the Gentlemen's motion? Those in favor say

eaye' opposed fno'. Tbe 'ayes' have ït. The motfon

carries and the Amendment is adopted. Any further

Amendmentsk''

Clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.î'

Speaker Redpord: HThird Reading. 3133.1'

Clerk OlBrfen: HHouse Bill 3133. A Bill for an Aet to amend

Sections of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Second Readfng i

of the Bi11. No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floorkl'

k o ' sriea : ''None . '' ICler

Speaker Redmond: ''Thlrd Readfng. 3134.', E

Clerk O'Brien: nHouse Bill 3134. A Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of an Act to provide for financing for the

s'tate program for the collectfon and disposal of 'i

unclaimed abandoned vehicles. Second Readfng of the .

Bfll. Amendment //1 was adopted in Committee.''lSpeaker Redmond: HAny motion kith respect to Amendment 71?'.

clerk OfBrien: #lNo motions filed.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor? Representativ

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Madigan.''

adigan: Mr. Speaker, we are still examining the Amendment. t'

C ould you hold it right where you ' re at ? ''

peaker Redmond ; '' I can ' t hear you . ''

onBoeckman : ''Would you take this out of the record? 11'

eaker Redmond : ''out of the record . 3155 .P

. lerk O # Brfen : ''House Bf 11 31 . . . . 1'

peaker Rednond : 11 3135 . 'î

lerk O 1 Brfen : ''House Bi11 3135 . A Bi11 f or an Aet to amend

Sectfons o f t he Illinois Vehicle Code . Second Reading

o f the Bf 11 . No Committee Amendments . '1

peaker Redmond : l'Any Amendments f rom the f loor ? ''

lerk 0 ' Brien : ''None . ''

peaker Redmond : ''Third Reading . 3138 . Nevermind that one .

314 7 . '' -

lerk O'Brien: f'House Bill 3147. A Bill for an Act to establis

- a voluntary progran whereby private forest landowaers

may earnfàufffcfent monfes to assure by agreement the

perpetuation and scientific resource management of their

forest lands. Second Reading of the Bi11. No Compittee

Amendments.

peaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor?n

lerk o'Brien: ''None.''

peaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 3149.

lerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 3149. A Bfll for an Act concerning

waterways and wetlands in the State of Illinois. Second

Reading of the Bi11. No Comnittee àmendments.'' '

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments frop the floor?''

Clerk O'Brlen: ''Amendment #l, Geo-Karis-Bowman. Amends

House Bill 3149 on page 1. liae 20y.by deleting 'made

available' and inserttng in lieu thereof 'reportedf. '?

Speaker Redmond: nRepresentative Geo-Karis.''

Geo-Karis: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,

tbe Amendment on House Bill 3149, instead of havîng to

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report this made available to the General Assemblyy my

Amendment changes it so that it says that they must report

!it to the results of the findings...the results of the

findings must be reported to the General Assembly because

if you just make it available..if they don't give it to

the General Assembly, it is available for them to ask for

it but if it is made to report it to the General Assembly,

then it will be furnished directly to the General

Assembly.and I so move.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Is there any further discussion? guestiods

on the Ladyîs motfon to adoption of Amendment //1. Those

fn favor say 'aye' opposed lno'. The 'ayes' have it.

Motion carried and the Amendmeét is adopted. Any further

Amendments?n

Clerk O'Brien: ''No further Amendments.pl

Speaker Redmond: ''Third Reading. 3153. 0ut of the record.

3163.

Clerk O'Brfen: ''House Bill 3163. A Bill for an Act to require

the various departments of state government to approve o

deny any applications made to them within 90 days of

their receipt of any such application. Second Reading of

the Bi1l. No committee Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floork''

Clerk o'Brien: ''None.''

Speaker Redmond: HThird Reading. 3167.1:

'Brien: HHousé'Bill 3167. A Bill for an Act to amendClerk 0

Sections of the Illinois Industrial-Development Authority

Act. Second Reading of the Bf11. No Committee

Amendments.'' ' .

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor?

Representative Totten.î'

Totten: ''Inquiry-of the Chair. You just move....3164, I

thfnk there was a fiscal note.o.î'

Speaker Redmond: l'It was ffledo'' '

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Totten: ''O.K. Is there a fiscal note filed on this one:

also7l'

Speaker Redmond: ''It was filed on 64...was not filed oa 65,

it is filed on 67.f1

Totten: ''O.K. Thank youo''

Clerk O'Brien: ''Amendment //1, Representatfve Ryan. Ameads

House Bi11 3167 by strfking Section 8.1.''

Speaker Redmond: 'fRepresentative Madigan, does it have a

Floor Amendmentr'

Madigan: HOur file ' fndicates that the Amendment has not been

printed and regretfully the Sponsor of the Amendment did

not have the courtesy to send it over to the Sponsor of

the Bil1.u

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Ryan.l'

Ryan: 'Qt hasn't been prfnted: fs that what he safd?''

Madigahi ''Our file indicates that it has not been

printed and the Sponsor of the Amendment did not have

the courtesy to send tt over here.''

Ryan: HWhat does your file indicate Mr. Speaker?''

Speaker Redmondp HThe fl.?.e does show.,..We show tha-.'it is ,

printed and filed. Has it been distributed, Mr. Page?

What's your pleasure, Representative Madiganz''

Madigan: ''I would like to see the Amendmenty Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, how many Amendments have been filed oa this

Bill? We can proceedyMr. Speaker.

Speaker Redmond: '10ne.''

11Ryan: Do you have a copy, Mq Madigan?u

Madigan: ''Thank' yo'u.f'

Ryan: ''Do you have a copy? Strange how you got one when

they havengt been prsmtedz'

Madigan: Mxeroxed.'î

Ryan: ''Wonderful.''

,1 ' jSpeaker Redmond: Representative Ryan. Please don t delay

the procedfngsy.''Representative Ryan .' Proceed.''

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Ryan: '11:11 certainly try not to do that. Amendment f/1

would not requfre the Governor to fund any deficit

in the Industrial Development Authorfty Bond funds and

it kind of puts the agency on its own. It is a good

conservative Amendment and we would certainly ask for the

adoptiono''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Madigan x''

Madlganz ''Mr. speaker thfs Bf11 was drafted vith a vkev

towards modeling the Illinois Industrial'Developàeat

Authorfty along the lines of.the Illinois Housiag

Development Authorfty. The language contained fn the

Bfll which ts proposed to be eliminated by this Amendment

is identical to language which is contained in the

Illfuofs Housfng Development Authorfty Act. The language

is good language. It simply provides moral support for

the agency when it attempts to sell its bonds on the open

market. Mr. Speaker, in light of that I express my

opposition to the Gentlemen's motion.n

Speaker Redmond: ''Any further discussfon?''

Madigan; ''Mr. Speaker excuse me.''

Speaker Redmond: ï'Representative Madigan.''

Madigan: HI am correct. I oppose the Gentlemen's motfon to

adopt the Amendment.''

Speaker Redmond: HAny further discussion . The question is on

the Gentlemenfs mo.t.Representive Ryan to close.''

Ryan) 'fGo ahead.'l

Speaker Redmond: HGentlemen's motion tn adopt Amendment //1

to House Bill 3167. Those fn favor say 'aye' opposed

fno' Those in favor vote 'ayeî opposed vote 'no'.* y

Have a1t voted who wish? Representative Totten.''

Totten: ''Thank you Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. To explaln my vote, I think we should carefully

look at the Amendment that has been proposed because I

thfnk the language is good. If the state shouldo..if the

bonds should default we are in the moral obligation system

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if we don't adopt this Amendment and I think the;

Amendment should be adoptedo'' IIS

peaker Redmond: ''Have a11 voted who wish?'' Representatfve '

James Houlihanw''

Houlihan: MMr. Speaker, I fail to understand the explanation

of the Sponsor. I realize he is the Minority Leader and

can get up and command a number of votes to vote Just

because he is in support of something: but I think there

is some question as to what this Amendment does. And 1 th nk

we would have to oppose thfs Amendment untfl there fs some

thorough explanation of just what this Amendment does

rather than saying it is Just a good conservative

Amendment. I think that is the kind of descriptton that

j, 'leadâ us nowhere.

Speaker Redmond: HHave a11 voted who wish? Representative

Madigan to explain his vote/'-- '

Madigan : ''Ro11 Call '1

Speaker Redmond: HClerky take the record. Tbis question is

81 'aye aad 86 lno' and the Gentlemenls motioa failed.

3224. âny further Nmendments:n

Clerk O%Brien: ''No further Amendments.n

Speaker Redmond: Third Reading. 3224.11

Clerk o'Brien: HHouse Bill 3224. A Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of the Environmental Protectfon Act. Second

Reading of the Bi1'1. No Committee Amendments.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk OlBrfen: ''None.'' .

Speaker Redmond: 'fThird Reading. How about 3230. 3230.

Clerk O'Brien: ''House Bill 3230. A Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of aa Act making appropriations for the ordinary

and contingent expenses of the Industrial Commission .

. Second Reading of the Bi1l. Amendment //1 was adopted in

Commfttee.''1

Speaker Redmond: HAny Amendment from the floorzn

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Clerk o'Brien: OA motioao..l move to table Amendment //1 by

Representative Eugene Barnes.'l

Speaker Redmond: nRepresentative Eugene Barnes.f'

Barnes: HIhank you very mnch, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker and

Members of the House, this is the supplemental for the

Industrial Commission. There was some question raised

in the Commission relative to this Amendment which we'

. amended out a small amount. 1 think it was twenty-four

thousand dollarsy and there was some question relative to

that. Since that time I have had tbe opportunity tl sit

dovn cïth Representatfve Abramson and the Commfssfon

and it has been fully resolved relative to that question

on this amount that was deducted in Committee. So for that

reason as I fndicated to Representatfve Abramson tha:@ @

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with the full knowledge and explanation of just how those

funds were befng used and utilized, I would at this tiae

file a motion to table Amendment //1 on House Bi11 3230.'1

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Petersyhave you...''

Peters: HMr. Speaker: just to express my thanks to

Representative Barnes for hfs understanding and kind

consideration of this problem, I thank hfm for it.n

Speaker Redmond: ''Representattve James Houlihano'''

Houlihan: nMr. Speaker that Amendment was put on in Committee.

Representative Barnes indicated that he met with

Representattve Abramson and everything was solved. Could

he explain what the solution was? Why'those Jobs that

weren't necessary at the tise in commtttee are now

necessary?n

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Peters.''

Koulihan: nNrk'.speaker. I directed that to Representative Barnese''

Speaker Redmond: nOh Representative Barneso't

Barnes: HIt was not a questfon of whether or not the jobs

were necessary: the jobs were always.there and the. functfon was befng performed and the functfon fs contiaue

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to be performed. What we tried to do was sit down with

the commisslon and determfne just what was the problea

relative to the funding of those positions. That bas 'been

cleared upy the positions are funded in the current budget

applïcatfon for 1979. ànd I see no reason vhy we should

not fund these positions that are being carried out ia the

most Judicial manaer in the Industrial Commissiono''

Houlfhan; ''Repreaentative Barnesythfs was discussed fully in

Committee. I believe you were aot there at the time and

the Amendment was put on. And I don't think the information

has been made available to a11 the Members of the

Committee and I think it would be advisable if we take

thls out of the record for a mfnute.''

Barnes: nWe1: Mr. Houlihan: I had indicated to you that I

met with the Sponsor, I met with the people in the

Industrial Commission. If it is your desire to look at

information relative to that I suggest that you come up#

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to my office, at this time thfs motfon will be...wi11 be

put forth I would hope that you would support the Chairman

in trying to carry out my functions in that Committee. If

you can not...that is something...a decision for yourself

but I feel at this time that it is aot necessary to keep

this Amendment on this Bi11. We have worked out the

problems with it and I am keeping my word to the Sponsor

of the Bill and keeping my integrity to the Industrial

Commfssion.''

Houlihan: HGene, I'm happy to follow the Chairman. I

appraciate your full explanation of the issue. I

appreciate your brfnging to attention the fact that these

Jobs are now necessary and I hope the people that have

those jobs are now happy.'','' :) I ISpeaker Redmond: .Are you ready for the question The questio

is on Representative Barnes' motion . Those in favor say

'aye' opposed 'no.' the 'ayes' have it. The motfon' >

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' carried. Any further Amendments?''

clerk o'Brien) ''No further Amendments-''

Speaker Redmond: 'Qhird Reading. 3236. Representative Ryany

we don't have to do anything yet I guessp''

Clerk OlBrien: ''House Bill 3236. A Bill for an Act to provide

1salary fncreases for certain state employees. Second

Reading of theiBill. No Committee Amendmentso'f

Speaker Redmond: HAny Amendments froz the floorr'

Clerk O'Brien: ''None.''

Speaker Redmond: HThird Reading. Any recommendations...

House Bi11, Third Reading. Representative O'Brien.

OfBrien: nYes Mr. Speaker and Members, I wonder if we could

go back uo House Bill 3208. I hage aa Amendment up there

that I would like to have adopted.n

Speaker Redmond: HO.K. 3208. WeRre on Third Reading, 1.111

get back to that. Senate Bi11, Third Reading.''

clerk OlBrien: nSenate Bfll 1602. A Bf11 for an Act to amend

an Act to provide for the ordinary and contingent

expenses of the General 'Assembly. Thfrd Reading of the

the Bï11.lê

Speaker Redmond: HWas Representative Madigan golng to handle

that? A transfer of funds to the Senate.'f

Madfgan: ''Mr. Speaker, this B111 vould transfer funds for the

Senate. I request a favorable Roll Ca1l.î'

Speaker Redmond: 'fouestion's on the Gentlemen's motiony those

in...there is a transfer of Bills to the Senate, theyrve

asked to transfer from one account to another. The

question is, shall thfs Bill pass? Those in favor vote

'aye', those opposed vote'no'. Senate appropriatfon.

The Senate appropriation. Have a11 voted who wish?

The Clerk will take the record. On this question there

ls 131 laye' and 6 'no'î. This Bill having recefved the

Constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed.

Senate Bi11 3208. Representatfve O'Brien. House B111

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Clerk OvBrien: 'Iouse 3i11 3208. A Bill for an Act..J'

Speaker Redmond: f'Mr. Madigan, your phone is ringing.''

Clerk O'Brien: MA Bi11 for an Act to amend Sections of an Act

to create sanitar'f districts.. Second Reading of the B1l1.

No Committee Amendmentsu'

Speaker Redmond: nAny questions? Well, we haven't voted on

the adoption. Any Amendments from the floor?''

Clerk O ' Bri en : ''Floor Amendment #k y 0 ' Brien , amends llouse Bill

320 8 in line 1 and so f orth . ''

Speaker Redmond : 'îRepresentatfve 0 ' Brien . O ' Brien .'î

' Brien : ''Ye s y Mr . Speake r and Membe rs y the Amendment doe s no t

af f ec t the sub s t ance o f the Bill as i t was dra f ted aad

passed out of the Counties and Townships Committee . Rathe

:i. t a d d s a c h a n g e t o a d i f f e r e n t S e c t J. o n . I t c h an g e s t h a

r e qui r eme n t f or the gen e ra l s upe r in tenden t o f the s an i tary

district , that he mus t be a resident o f the S tate of

I 11f no :t s rath e r th aa a re s iden t o f j us t t h e M e tro po lf t an

S ani tary D i str i.c t .. The in tention o f th i.s Amendment is to

a 1 1 o w t it (: d f. s t r i c t: e t o s e l e c t: t h e b e s ': p e r s t ' n f o r t h f. s

pos it ion regardless of . whether or not tha t person i s a res iden

of the dis trict . However y he does have to be a resident

of the S ta te o f Illinoi s .''

S eaker Redmond : ''Is there any . . .Representative Schlickman .''P

f'Point o f order Mr . Speaker . ''Schlickman : ,

Speaker Redmond : ''S ta t.e your Po f n C . ''

S chlickman : 'll'he po in t . . . I raise Lhe ' que s t ioa o f gernanes s

r e 1 a t i v e t o t h i s Ame n d me' n t . T h e B i 1 1 a s i t w a s

introduced and reported out of Commit tee provides that

i t uo u1d b e a c r imf na 1 o f f en s e t o in t ent ion a 1ly d is c har ge

vas te f z'em lnoblle 'equf pmen t lnto sewers . . . ''

Speaker Redmond : ''Representatfve Madigan y f or what purpose do

our rf se ? ''Y

Mad f g an : ''The appr o p r j'- a te t ime to r e s p ond to Re p r e s enta t ive

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Schlfckman. Mr. Speakery the Gentleman has rafsed che

question of germaneuess of the Amendment and.w.'i

. Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Schlickman.''

IMadigan: ''Mr. Schtickman will continuevn

Schlickman: ''Thanks for the courtesy.l' !i

Madigan: 'lYou are very welcome.î'

Speaker Redmoad: f'Representative Schlickman .''

Schlickman: HMr. Speaker aad Members of the House, as thfs Bi1I

was introduceds as it was read a first tfme, and as it wa

heard in Committee provided that it would be a criminal

offense to intentionally discharge waste from mobile

equipment into sewers, manholes and waters. That's the

Bfl1. That's the subject matter. This Amendment has

nothfng to do wfth the subject of crfminal sanctfon for

untawful actioa, rather it relates to the qualifieation

of an offfcer of the Chicago Metropolitan Sanitary

-- Dfstrict. I donft go to the merit of that Amendment,

Mr. Speakery but I do support yow Mr. Speakery in your

past declsfons that Amendments aust be germane. They must

deal with the subject matter of the Bi11. Mr. Speaker,2

I am trying to support your integrity: would you listen?t'

Speaker Redmond: ''O K.' Proceed#''

Schlickman: HMr. Speaker, you know you are very much concerned

about germaneness. You are very much concerned that

Amendments deal with the subject matter of the Bi11.

Thts Amendment doesn't and I object to it on that

basfs and request, Mr. Speaker, that you rule that ft is not

germane.''

Mad J. g an : ''Mr . Sp e ake r . ''

speake r Redmond : ''Repres en t a tive 0 ' Br ien .99

Mad igan : ''Mad igan . ''

Speake r Redmond : ''Mad J- gan . '' - . e .1 . ''

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Madigan: HMr.rspeaker, in response to Representative

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schlickmaa, House Bill 3208 is an Amendment to the Chicago

Sanitary District Act. The Amendwent currently offered by

Representative O'Brien proposes to amend the same Act: and

therefore I submft that the Amendment is germane.''

Speaker Redmond; HRepresentative Schlickman.''

Schlickman: ''If I may respond, whether or not it amends the

same Act does not give support to germaneness. Itês

subject mattery not Act. I persist, Mr. Speaker, that

thls is not a germane Amendment and regardless of its

merit or lack of merit it should be ruled by you as being

t of orderz 1ou

Speaker Redmond: 'Q lve beea advised by the Parliamentarian that

inasmuch as the Bill amends the Sanitary Distriet Act, es

does...and thaps the Amendment.w.and as does the

Amendment also refer to the title of the Act, i't is

germane. Representative McMaster.''

XqMaster: HWet1: Mr. Speaker, I am a little bit disappointed.

As a àlfnorfty Spokesman on countfes and Townshfps

Comuittee, we passed House Bill 3208 ouL by a 15...

votes in favorm no votes againsty and one vote present.

This Amendment completely changes the intent, the idea of

leglslation that we passed out of that Committee. I do !

not appreciate this type of action when we pass a Bill

out.' .The Chairman of that Committee aad t have alvays

had a good rapport as far as moving legislation, but this

I think is complete under handed when you completely

change the intent of a Bi11 that we agreed on fn

Committee and come out on the floor of the House and make

't like this type of l. lt completely somethlng else. I don

actton and I object very strongly/'

S ker Redmond: HWe11 that has nothing to do with my ruling. 'Pea y

Myowomy...you know it isn't unusual to change everything

lafter an enaeting clause, so the Bill that comes out of !I

the Committee may very well be completely differeat. As

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I...as I understand, it amends...the Am'endment'relates

to the same title and therefore the Parliamentarian

has told me it's germane. Now khether or not it is a

good Bill or not is a different matter. Represeatative

O 'Brfen .ê'

O'Brlen: ''Mr. Speaker and Members, the Amendment is germane.

. It does a little bit more than' the origfnal Bill did, I

and ft was basfcally an oversitey otherufse it probably

would have been a Bi11 in and of itself. I don't think

. that there is any opposition to the Amendment, but at this

time in respect to Representative McMasters let's take.' .

ft out of the record and wefll work it outw''

Speaker Redmond: ''Take ft out of the record. Under the Order o

Concurrence, page 13, appears House Joint Resolution 76.

Representative Conti.''

Conti: HMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housey I

would like to have you concur with the Bill there is a

typographical error in the Bi11...the House Joint

Resolution. They put down 1976 for the Declaratton of

Independence instead of 1776. lt is a typographical

error.'' '

Speaker Redmond: 'Q s there any discussion? The question is,

shall the House concur in Senate Amendment #1 to House

Jofnt Resolutfon 762 Those fn favor vote 'aye' opposed

vote lno'. Have a11 voted who wfsh? Simple majority.

The Clerk will take the record. This question is 132

'aye' and 3 'nol and the motfon carries and the House does

concur fn Senate, Amendment'//l to House Joint Resolution 76.

House Joint Resolutfon Constitutional Amendment 29.

Representive Diprima.'' '

Clerk OgBrien: HHouse Joint Resolution Constitutional

Amendment //29. This Resolution has beea read a third ttme

in final form as amended in the Senate previouslyo''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Diprima

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1 passed out of the Senate, and now it's up for yourli considerationa This would be the first Constitutioaalklà Amendment passfng out of thfs Body and I vould appreciateë

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i! an affirmative vote. There is a Senate Amendment...!

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Senate Amendment //1 a11 it does is put fn an effective@

date, and that's a11 it does. and I would appreciate an

affirmative vote.l'

Speaker Redmond: HIs there any dfscussionr Representative...

any discussion... Representative Totten.'l

Tottea: uThank you, Mr. Speaker. How many times has this beea

read oa a coacurrence or how many times does ft have to

be read?''

Speaker Redmond: HWeeve read it three times at each...on

Totten: ''On a concurrence after the Senate ameads ft. . . ''

- Speaker Redmond: nRight.l'

. Totten: ''We read it three times.''

Clerk O'Brfen: ''Yes ft's been read three tïmes as amended by

the Senate.''

Totten: ''Thank you.''

Speaker Redmond: î'Are you ready for the question? The questio

isyshall the House concur 'in Senate Ameadment 71 co the

House Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendmeat 29k Ihos

ln favor vote 'ayel opposed vote êno'. Have a1l voted

who wish? Have al1 voted who wish? The Clerk vi11 take

tbe record. This question is 138 'aye' 13 'noî

The House does concur fn Senate' Amendment //1 to the House

Joint Resolution Constitutional Amendment 29. 0n the

ôrder of Constitutional Amendments Third Readingy

Qonsideration Postponed Senate Joint Resolution 31., :

. .. Representative Terzich. Terzich.''

Terzfch: MYes, Mr. Speaker, I know many of the Members want to

go home for the weekend so 1111 uake this very, very@

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' lrief Everyone knows what Senate Joint Resolution 31

is a11 about. It is about the opportunity for the peopleiI

of the State of Illinois who are concerned about the!

educatton of their childrea. They have the opportunity E

to elect the highest office holder in the field of'

educatfony the Superintendent of Edueatioa . We know it

is now time that we give people of the State of Illinofs

the right to vote whether they want an elected

Superintendent or an appointed Superintendent oh a

November ballot. So a11 of you, I do urge your 'aye' vote

on support of this Bî11. Mr. Speaker: I request that my

Cosponsor', Representative Stuffle, close.''

Speaker Redmond: ''The question is.. . 0h... Representative

Stuffle to close. No discussfon. Representative Stufflet

Representative Gene Hoffman.ï'

Hoffman: nMr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Houses

I don't think that we want to spend a great deal of tiae

on this fssue again. We were...we were here yesterday. It

hasn't changed. The sltuatfon is the same. You know

and I know whyzthe Constftutional Amendment is upy it ls

up because of the procedures that we put in 1973, because

if it werey we would be in here with statutory language,

which would change the way the 1aw is presently wrttten.

There is a whole variety of hidden agendas involved in

this partfcular program and some that aren't so hidden.

I think the attftude and the comments which have been

displayed on the floor of the Houseydirected at the chief

appointed state schoot official, tetls the story very

clearly and very well. As was true yesterday and in true

in the week before I stand in opposition to the adoption

of this Constftutiopal Amendmento''

Speaker Redmond: HAaything further? Representative Stuffle to

close.''

Stuffle: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker and Members, Just brfefly, thfs fs

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our last chance to strik: a blow for popular government,

in this Session, on this issue. The other Constitutional

Amendment has died in the Senate. Welre left with three

options currently. 0ne is a boardo.ohe is a Superintenden

Irather controlled by the Governor. Another is a 1

Superintendent controlled by a board, apart from the

people. The third is a Superfntendent controlled by the

People. I think the people want to control this office. p!

They ought to be gïven the opportunity to decfde that

feature. They ought to be given the opportunity to decide

it this year, for that reason I would urae your

affirmative voteo''

Speaker Redmond) nThe questfon iss shall the House adopt

Senate Joint Resolution 31? Tbose in favor vote îaye'

opposed 'nof. uave a11 voted who wish? Representative

Cunningham.''

- cunningham: MWe11 Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Centlemen of the

House, how melancholy that a splendfd fdea . like this has

any difficulty obtaining the 107 Yotes it deserves. That

man who presides so regally from bis palace at-the corner f

First and Jefferson is a great deal smarter that hts

tormentors because he has boch gubernatorial candidates

out there beating the bushes to save him from the electors.

There are more than a dozen of you who two weeks ago voted

for Representative Friedrieh's fine Constitutional

Amendment, identical to this proposition, but you haveI

yielded to the threats that have come to you from the

Leadership of your party from either side of the aisle.

I ask you to examfne your conscfence before we read your

names out heres the twelve of you who are needed up there

on that particular board. Let the voice of your constitue ts .

be heard. This has been pointed out by the Sponsor a

imoment ago as the last chance youlve got to 1et your voter II

go to the polls next November. Surely, surely, surely

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kf the demo'cracy meaas anything at .all the voters have. :

a right to be heard on xovember 7th. Have the xmoral

courage to give them that ehanze. lgnore the Party

teadershipw They are as wrong as they can be. lhey have

nothfng to do in this matter. They are not the ones who

hfre you, itls the people back home you should be

listening to.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Have a11 voted who wish? Representative

Friedrich. He wants to explafn his vote.'l

Friedrich: '1Mr. Speaker and Members of the Eouse, this will be

your last chance to put this on the ballot thfs November. 1

I think one of the things that absolutely amazes we around

here is that many of the mi'norities are voting no. Thfs

is interesting to me because we ltave eight hundred million

people in this world who live in a Communist dictatorship

where they have no vofce whatever in electing the people

who govern them. Yet, here in the country we have freedom

of choice certaiuly everyone: and particularly the

mlnorities ought to be fnterested in having a voice in who '!

governs them. And this is probably the most important

function of state government, that's public education.

We spend more money in it...for it, we got more people

involved fn ft and certafnly I think it is the most

important function of state and local government; and why

anybody who is in a minorfty group would not want a voice

in who runé'this particular branch of government is more

than I can understand. This is a policy-making office.

This is tbe office that decides what the currlculums arey

what your classroom sfzes arey add a11 those things. It

is the people's business and certainly the best governmen

!. . -best government is that which...where the people have

1!the most input

. I urge yeu and beg you to 1et the people II

. decide. You are not voting to elect the State lSuperintendent, youAre just putting this on the batlot '

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and 1et the people decide. Are you afraid.that the people

do not have enough sense to goverrt themselves? Then maybe

you should go someplace where the people don't have any

voice. in government, and 1et them feed you from the top

down and decide vhat is good for you. I believe we ought

to government from the bottom up: from the people up.n

Speaker Redmond: ''Have all voted who wish? Representative

Terzicho''

erzich: ''Yesy Mr. Speaker, No, werre not going to put it on

Postponed because I think that tbe Legislature here will

show the people that we have confideace fn Lheir decision

at the ballot box. A11 this is doing is saying that the'

yrpeople...

Speaker Redmond: 'îone minute. Representative Stuffle. One

mfnute to explafn his vote.f' One minute to explain your

V 0 t e . ' ' '

- erzich: HYou only gave me ten secondsa Mr. Speaker. Thank you ''

Speaker Redmond: ''I didnît give you anything.''

erzich: MOnce again, I thfnk that the people of the State of

Illinois have the knowledge, the integrity to make a

decision. A11 we are doing is saying to them that we

have the trust and faith in the electorate to make a

decision of thfs nature. We have to run for elected offic .

We have to be answerable to the people. Why shouldn't the

Superfntendent of Education be subject to the same?

Therefore let's vote this bY11. ..we need only ten good#

Legislators to give us an laye' vote, and 1et the

people of lllinois have a choiee for good governmento''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Stuffle to explain his vote.f'

Stuffle: ''Yes Mr. Speaker, given the gravity of this issue,#

I would hope that we would have more green lights up

there. I don't think there is anythiug more important

left to consider in this Session in terms of Constitutiona

Amendments and I would also ask for a poll of the absentee

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j ff this vote fails to reach the necessary number.'îIk speaker Redmond: ''Have a11 voted Fho wish? clerk will take the! .! record. This question 97 'aye' and 68 'no' and thei .p centlemen requested a poll of the absentees. Mr. Clerk,!i 111 poll the absentees.ll clerk nlBrien: ''Abramson. Ralph Dunn. ''Ewe11. Hudson. lfann.;il Matejek. Pouncey. shumpert and Younge.''i1 Speaker Redmond: HNo change. on this question there fs 97lk 'aye' and 68 lno' The House does not adopt constttution 1-..

senate Jofnt constitutlonal Amendment Did not adopL.

'. The order of...Representative Matijevich.''

Matijevich: ''Mr. Speaker, my seatmate-. tells me that a11 those

who vote laye' are the guests of Dr. Cronin to the

Kentucky Derby and he is going to send the Governor asIi his guest too.''

Speaker Redmond: l'Representative Ryan.''

Ryan: ''Mr. Speaker, in the balcony over here, to my left, we

have Representative Stanleyvs mother and his auat Mrs.

Davis: and a frfend Mrs . Lawrence who are here from

Windbam: Ohio. And I would like to extend my sympathy

to Representative Stanley's mother, who is up there in

the balcony.''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Stiehlp''

Stiehl: 'Qhank you, Mr. Speakers 1 rise for purposes of an

introduction. I would like to introduce a guest who

in the left balcony, she is Mrs. Frances 'Irohall'

a teacher at the Waukegan Township High Sehool East, and

she is represented by Representative Geo-Karis,

Griesheimers and Matijevich. Thank you.''

Speaker Redmond: ''The Urder of Motion. Motion with respect to

House Bi11 170. 0h, Representative Matijevich.''

Matijevich; ''Speaker. letfs hear it for Andy Raucci up in the

balcony'.''

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Speaker Redmond: 9'170. Representative Ke11y.'' .

Kelly: ''Thank youy Mr. Speaker and Members of the Hpusey House Bi11

170 which I had ffled a motion to discharge the House Insurance

Comm4ttee; briefly speaking, this legislation pertains to the

fnsurance industry and, in particular, this would permit the I1-

linois Department of Insurance to have one of the most comprehea-

stve and most streamlined rating Bflls or laws in the nation.!

Currentlys Illfnois is the only state in the United States that

does not have any regulation over the automobile insurance in-

dustry. And this certainly gives the opportunity to tbe Depart-

ment of Insurance to go in to these compaaies and to deLermine

whether rates are fair, that there is not discrilination occurring,

that there are other areas of protection which the individuals E

can'obtain. The Committee of which this Bill came before and I

brought it to your attention in a form of a letter about two weeks

ago that we only recefved three negatfve votes from a nfneteen

person Committee. The Committee, 1 will admit, gave us a fair ;

- . opportunity. T wish there would have been a larger attendance

at tîe meeting and possfbly we may have come closer to passing

tbe Bi11 but the Committee was very fair. Wefve been workfng '

on the subject for over a year. I feel the people of Illinois '

certainly deserve protection in this area and I know that the

Department of Insurance helped draft the Amendment which is the

Bf11 currently. And they fully endorse this proposal. Mr.

Richard Mathias testified in favor of this proposal and you kno.

he's the Dlrector of the Department.and I would ask for your sup-

ortw''P

Speaker Redmond : ' ''Is there any diseussion? Representative Tipsword .''

Tipsword: 'Yr. Speaker and Ladies and Centlemen of tlle House : I want

to make one thing perfecely clear at the outset . As Chalrman of

the Insurance Com ittee , I am not in the least bit tnsulted by

thfs motion being brought to the floor of the House because this. I

is, under the rules, a privilege of tbis Member. Representattve

Kelly has been before our Committee and I know he d1d not tell you

that he didn't receive hearings because he did and I appreciate

that fact. This Bill was heard on several occasions. It was

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completely a different Bill whea it began and he most clearly told

I you that he... it is now the Bf11 that the Director of Insurance

had fndicated that he would like to have. The Bi11 was fully

heard before the Commlttee and the Commfttee has attehded not only

meetings of the Commn'ttee but many semfnars which has indfcated

to us a surprising thing, at'least so far as I have been concerned.

I came on to that Commlttee and I had personally believed for years

that one of the thfngs that we needed most of al1 in Illinois was

a Ratfng Control Bf11. I have been very, very surprfsed to learn

that Illinois by virtue of our present system where we have com-

petition and only competition that governs the rates in Illinois

has fn comparison with the other states and especially other states

of a comparable nature where we have the rurul-urban mix that we

have, the population groups that we bave and higb concentration

of population fn various areas. Illinoisî rates on àlmost a11 in-

surance areas that would be covered by such a ratfng Bi11 are com-

parable or lower than most of these other states. And in addition,

Illinois has the greatest availability of insurance to its citf-

zens of any of these states and almost any state fn the Union.

This has been very surprising to me. Consequently, I do stand

in opposftion to Representative Kelly's motion, but for any rea-

son he has no rfght to brfng it here. I ask you to listen to him

very carefully and make your own decision upon the facts of the

case and upon the' good of the insurance industry and the consumers

in the State of Illfnoisv Thank you.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Kempfners.î'

Kempiners: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Minority Spokesman on the

House Insurance Comnittees I jofn the Chairman in opposing this

motion. This Bi11 had a very... had a number of very thorough

hearings and I was one who lfke the Chairman. started out in sup-

port of the B111 that Representative Kelly is attempting to dis-

charge today and wound up befng one of the votes agafnst that

Bill because of the evidence that was presented during the manyy

many hours of testimony that we took. I think that Representa-

tive Kelly is sfncere fn bis efforts and he certainly has ap-'r.

proached both of us to 1et us know that he was going to do this

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and I join'lthe Chafrman in'saying I?m not insulted fn what he's

doiag. I feel, howevery that many hours of testtmony were taken,

a thorough hearing was given, tbe vote was taken and enough votes

weren't there to pass it. And 1 think that if we're going to do

anything wfth the Commfttee systemy we ought to at least' in this

type of an instance, listen to the judgment of that Comml-ttee. I

think I might add that we dtd have a Bill this past week in this

Committee in which an Amendment was offered to do basically the

Isame thiag that Representative Kelly's Bill would have done and

that Amendment and the Bill were rejected. So I think this is

fndicative of the hearfngs that were held aad the evideace pre-

sented and I feel that it would be duplicative and in a way: waste-

ful of the House's time kf we had to take this up al1 over again.

And I would urge that we reject this motion.''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Huffw''

Huff: ''Thank youy Mr. Chairman. I rise to support this motlon by

Representative Kelly. I think that the B111 is deserving aad

- merftorious of our closest serutiny in the House. Notwithstanding

the pronouncements of the Majority and Minorfty Leaders I vas at

that particular meeting aad I feel also that it was not fully at-

tended. And 1et me ask you this, Ladfes and Gentlemen of the House.

How can we be sure that the insurance companies when they come in

wfth the charts which I call the 'Crybaby Charts' are reflective

of the rates as they ekist fn the urban and rural areas? I sub-

mit that they are not.inasmuch as those charts and the fikures

on them aren't worth the paper theyrre written on because they

have hever been certifled. I submit also that there's awple evi-

dence that the insurance companies are guilty of redlining. prlce

fixfng and every other nefarfous thfng you can think of. Clearly 'tin the area of zompetition whlch tbey claim exists, I would like

to have one of the morc esteemed and learned legal colleagues

1get up and tell me how the insurance companies can profess to I

competftion when in Chicago we have whole areas excluding thou-I

sands of people from having insurance on their homex on thefr

home policies. I submit there is not competftion in many areas

of Chfcago.and I think that the only thing that will result from

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a fair hearing of Representative Kelly's Bilt is a fair rate and

the applaud of an apprecfative constftuencywe'

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentatlve Wolf.î'

Wolf: 'Nr. Speakeç, Members of the House, I rise in support of Repre-

sentative Kelly's Ampndaent. As was just told ':a moment agoy

Mr. Kempiners: who fs on the side shaking his head lno'y I bad

the Amendment in Comm4ttee the other day which was not for auto-

mobile insurance, but ftre and extended coverage fnsurance wbich

was similar. And the statement made by Representative Kempiners

sayfng the Committee rejected it fsn't quite rfght. It had eight

'yes' votes and five fnol. There were not ten votes to get it out

of Committee: but I would say it's stlll in Commlttee and not re-

Jected.''

Speaker Redmond: nAnything further? Representative Caldwello''

Caldwell: Mvery brfefly, Mr. Speaker, I rfse fn support of Represeata-

' tive Kelly's motion and I do so with thé full knowledge that the

fnsurance industry in the State of Illinois has a 1ot of problems.

And I thfnk that it's incumbent upon the Members of this Assembly

to begin to look closely into them so that at some point in tfme,

we are gofng to begïn to brfng about equfty for the consumers of

insurance in our state. I congratulate Representative Kelly andt

I would urge a11 of us to give him a vote, 'aye' vote oa this

motione''

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Epton/'

Epton: 'fThank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladfes and Gentlemen of the House.

It's certainly a pleasure to hear so many of my distinguished col-

leagues speak on a subject where we have so much information avail-

able. I only wlsh that some of us would read the material that

you have paid for and has been distributed to you. Certatnly,

Representative Kelly has gone about this in the proper fashion.

He's presented some very cogent arguments: but this is not a par-

tisan issue as was indicated by b0th sides of the aisle. The facts

remafn not prepared by the insurance companfesy not prepared by

the Department, not prepared by anyone but the Illinois Insurance

Study Commsssion which you fund. We conclusfvely have showny we i

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ftgures which show that Illinois in every urban area gets better

rates than any other urban area in the City of... in the state...

of the nation. As a matter of fact. when Dlrector Mathias who I

wants tîts Bill and who is sômetimes misguided - that can happen

in a Republican administration - the fact remains that Representa-

tive Mathias admitted that by their own survey, our rates were

lower than comparable states. And when asked why he needed tbis

information or needed this Bi11, hfs response was, 'Well, just fn

case.' In other words, we have machinery thatls workings but we

should have something just in case ft gets broken. Ffnally. I

would sûbmft to you that in the states where thère is regulation,

the price increases are much higher than those in Illinois. Nhen

my colleagues speak of redliningy they are right. When my colleagues

speak of arbltrary ïnsurance practicesy they are right. But whea

they suggest that by giving the authority to the Dikectory there

will be a rate reductiony you are kidding. And 1et me give youo.s''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representatfve Emfl Jones, for uhat purpose do you

rise?''

E. Jones: ''Yes. thank you. Mr. Speaker. Hels talking about the merits

of the legislation. I think we are on a motion, so I think his

remarks are out of order.''

Speaker Redmondl ''Confine your remaxks to the motiono''

Epton: #'Mr. Speakery I would certainly agree that my remarks are out

' of order. I apologlze and I apologfze for al1 of my predecessors

who likewise spoke out of order. In any event, I would simply

state that insofar as the motion is concerned, you need only look

. at the workmen's compensatfon area where we have regulatfon. If

thatîs what you wante.'. if that's what you want, you can vote this

Bill up. If nots I propose and plead that you vote the motion

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Speaker Redmond: î'Representative E1;ell.H

Ewell: 'Yr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen, Nr. Kelly deserves to be

commended because be is indeed taking on the bastions of vested

fnterest and prfvflege. He fs takfng on that agency vhich has

become so arrogant, it has become insensitive to even minor jus-

tice or basic fair play. Mr. Kelly fs taklng on an issue which

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needs to be addressed by us and I'd like to point out in response

to one of the last speakers that they always talk about the Direc-

tor of Insurance. But whether weVre talkfng about this Director ,I

or any other Director, we find out that these Directors are a11

born of fnsurance. When they retire from tbe job, they go back

to insurance. And one of the questions we really ought to ask is,

''Who do they serve while they're here on the Job?' I think Mr.

Kelly is directly in point and I thfnk only when we as a group,

we as a Body decide to look into these matters and no longer teave

ft to those Select Commltteesy we are then going to have a little

bit of insurance justice and fair play in the State of Illinois

and I would urge that everyone stand shoulder to shoulder with

Mr. Kelly fn his magnificent struggle-''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Holewinski.''

Holewinski: HThank you, Mr. Speaker. I move the prevfous question.'?

Speaker Redmond: ''The question is: shall the main question be put?

x I I , , '' 'Those fn favor say aye , opposed no . The ayes have ft mo-

. tion carried. Representative Kelly, to close.''

Kelly: 'Q Just want to close by saying that it's ïcertafnly evident

that this matter should be debated on the House floor and I ask

for your affirmative vote.''

Speaker Redmond: HThe question's on the Centleman's motion to dis-

charge the Insurance Committee and advance House B111 170 to the

order of Second Reading. Those ln favor vote 'aye', opposed vote

'no'. Have a1l voted who wished? This requires 89 votes. Have

a1l voted who wished? The Clerk will take the record. 0n this

question there's 73 'aye' and 61 'nol. Representatfve Kelly.''

Kelly: HPo11 the absentees/:

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Kelly desires a poll of the absenteesp

Mr. Clerk. Poll the absentees/î

Clerk Hall; ''Abramsons E.M. Barnesy Bartulisy Beatty.''

Speaker Redmond: NBeatty 'aye'. Katz 'aye'. Sharp 'aye'. Beatty

1 , 11aye .

Clerk Ha11: 'fBluthardt: Brandt, Don Brummet, Campbell, Chapmaa,

Corneal Davis, Deuster.f'

speaker Redmond: ''Representatïve Davis 'aye'.'f

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Clerk Ha11: HEbbeseny Farleyy Friedland, Greiman: Griesheimer,

Dan Houlfhan.''

Speaker Redmond: 'fHoulihaa 'ayeb/l

Clerk Hall: ''Hudson, Katz, Klosak, Kornowicz/'

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Kornowicz 'ayel/'

clerk Hall: f'Kucharski, Leverenz.''

Speaker Redmond: ORepresentative Farley desfres to be recorded as

îaye'. Representative Leverenz 'ayet/'

clerk Ha11: ''Madigan/'

Speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Madigan 'aye'/'

Clerk Ha11: 'Xadison, Manny Matejeky McAvoys McGrews McLendon/'

Speaker Redmond: 'lRepresentative Bianco.''

Clerk Ha11: nBfanco.''

Speaker Redmond: 'rRepresentatfve Gene Barnes layef/'

Clerk Ha1l: l'McGrew, McLendon, Meyery Molloyy Mugalian, O'Briea.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative O'Brien as 'ayef.'l

Clerk Hall: nPeters, Schisler, Skinner, Stearney, Telcser, Vfteky

Margalus, and Younge.''

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Speaker Redmond: HWhat's the score now? Members please be fn their

seats. Members please be fn thefr seats. 52 'aye' 71 fnoe

61 'no'. the motion falls. 1333, Representative Dantels.''

Daniels: 'Yr. Speaker, Ladies and Centlemen of tbe House, I hereby

move that the House discharge Judiciary I Committee and advance

to the Order of Second Reading House Bill 1333- This B11l deals

with the subject of products llability and fts current form as

amended in Committee contains only the statute of repose. Now

the statute of repose fs a form of the statute of limitatfons.

The tBi1l was heard last evening fn the Judiciary I Commfttee and

uafortunately due to the long hearings that were involved fn the

legislation before the Comnittees it fs my opinion that two of

our 'yes' votes were unable to be there at the time that the Roll

Call was heard. The Roll Calt on the do pass motion was ten to

eleven, taking twelve votes to come out of Committee and tgo of

our anticipated 'yes' votes were not present in Commfttee at the

time. If they had been and if the matter had been called earlier,

I think that we would have been able to bring this matter out of

Committee. Basically what 1'm saying by this motion is, llet's

not kill continued dfscussfon in the House on the subject of pro-

duct liability. Let's contfnue to debate it, brfng ft to the 0r-

der of Second Readfng so that we can contfnue our discussions re-

latfng to the statute tof repose.' Now youvre gofng to hear a

1ot of discussion on the question of the statute of repose. Some-

one's going to tell you that the products liability problem is an

fnsurance problem. Someone else is going to tell you that ve

don't need a statute of repose. And someone else is going to tell

you tbat by putting any statute of lfmitations fn youTre cuttfng

off people's rights. But I say to you, youAve a11 recesved let-

ters and phone calls and you a11 know that there fs a problem fn

the State of Illinois dealing with the subject of products liability.

And I'm asking you to help us contfnue to address the subject of

products lfability. You can assist the small businessman, the dfs-

trfbutor, the wholesaler, the manufacturer and even the large busi-

'nessman fn this state by continuihg to address the problem. You

make the decisfon on Second Reading and Third Readiog, but bring

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it to the House vote... floor for our decision. Letfs discharge

the Judiciary Committee. Thank you.'' .

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Dan Houlihan.''

D. Houlfhan: 'îThank youy Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the ;

House. I rlse in opposftion to the motion to discharge House Bill Il1333 from the Judiciary I Commfttee. By way of backgroundy House I

Bill 1333 was fntroduced and referred to a Subcommittee of the Ju-

diciary I Commlttee almost one year ago. That Subcommittee of

whfch T was the Chairman and chfch the other Members were Repre-

sentative Schlickman, Representatfve Lefnenweber, Representative

Hart and Representative Getty, heard voluminous testimony on the

entire subject of products liability over a period of several pub-

1fc hearings held throughout the sumcer and finalized a reports

a copy of whfch has been sent to each Member of the General Assembly.

It was the unanimous finding of the Subcommittee that there was

no evidence which warraated aay substantiat change in the Iltinois

existing tort system. Nowy the Subcommittee recommended three

. Bills. Those Bills are now on Second and Third Reading fn this

House which address themselves to this serious issue of products

lfabilfty fn thfs seate. Those Bllls refer to data cellection

authority and rate review authority in the Department of Insurance

so that we can assist the business community in the State of 11-

llfnofs which has been plagued by sharply increasing premiuos for

thefr product liabillty coverage. Last night in the Judiciary I

Cowmtttee, this Bill was considered by the full Coc>ittee. It

did not fail because Meabers were absent. It failed because there

were eleven negatfve votes. Now the issue was thoroughly debatedy

b0th pro and con. Xhe findings of the Subcopmittee have been af-

firmed, in effect, by the full Commn'ttee. The full Commlttee bas

found House Bi11 1333 wanting. Now I suggest to you that wha: we

are talking about on the sublect of products liability is an ex-

tremely complex sublect. One that does not lend itself to sim-

plfstic : solutlons or to sfmply impassfoned rhetoric which does

not address the issue. This House has attempted through its Com-

mfttee system to address this fssue responsfbly and dfllgently

and has done for a period of the past year. To say on the floor

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the issue is to inaccurately assess what the situation fs and what

the work of the Membership of the Judiciary Committee and the Sub-

committee has been. There are three Bills here. There are three

Bflls that we feel based on the evidence presented to us over a

perfod of one year, those three Bills are the reasonable way to

proceed. Now as is proposed in House Bill 1333 which would simply

and arbitrarily cut off the rights of fnjured victfms to bring a

lawsuit for damages for the injury that they have sustained. Now

House Bill 1333 does not guarantee, fn fact, does even... does n'ot

even contafn an assurance that it will provide any benefit what-

ever to the business community of this state as far as its pre-

mium fncreases for this type of insurance. Now, Ladies and Centle-

men'; on balance this motion is ill-founded. I ask you to vote 'no'

on the motion to discharge and to afffrm the work b0th of the Com-

mfttee itself and of tbe Subcommittee of the Judiciary I Committee.

Thank you.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representatfve Schlickman/'

Schlickman: 'Nr. Speaker, Members of the House, I arise to join with

the Gentleman from Cook in opposing the motion of the Gentleman

from Dupage. This motton is not required or the adoption df this

motion is not required for continued discussion and debate on the

subject of preducts liability. We don't need 1333 to confront that

problem. We have on the Calendary Mr. Speaker, Members of the

House, House Bill 3040 which is a product of the Subcommittee on

product lfability of the Judiciary Committee that was chaired by

the Gentleman from Cook. That Bill constitutes an Ameadmeat to

tbe Clvil Practice Act. 1333 would amend the Civfl Practice Act.

Ample discussion, opportunity for debate on thfs subject will come

when House Bill 3040 fs called for a Second Reading. I respect-

fully suggest to you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House, that after

one year of dfscussion and after a very: very deliberative hearing

on 1333 last night with the majority of the Members voting 'no'

on this Bi11, it would be inappropriate to favorably consider this

motion at this tfme. And with tbe Gentleman from Cook from the

other side of the aisley I urge you to vote 'n@'.H

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speaker Redmond: HRepresentative Bowman.t'

Bowman: ê'Yes, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and centlemen of the Houses I was

on Judiciary 1 last night and had to leave by eight or eight-thirty

and the Bill had not been called until about eight. And it took

about an %our or t?o to develop the facts. 1 was able to hear

the proponents of the Bill and I think they made some worthy points.IThey are worthwhile being debated on t:e House floor and 1 rise

to support this motion to dlscharge/'

Speaker Redmond) ''Representative Ryan.n

% Ryan: ''Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House, this Bi11 was amended in Committee to provide for only a

statute of repose after ten years. It's been altered drastlcally

to meet many of the opponents objections. This fs a vitally im-

portant subject to the State of Illinois and deserves a full dis-

cussion on the floor of this Kouse. And 1 would certainly hope

that we could support Representative Daniels to discharge this Com-

mittee and get this Bi11 out here where it can be discussioa and

. the merits can be brought out before tbe full Body/l

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Qettyw'!

Getty: ''dr. Speaker, Members of the House, I rkse fn oppgsftfon to the

motion to discharge. It is very unfortunate that thîs Bi11 is being

offered, and wrongfully 'so, as a solution to a very serious, very

real problem of products liabllity insurance. Unfortunately, there

is no easy answer. A year ago when I was appointed to the Pro-

duct Liability Subcommitteey 1 probably would have cast a vote

fn favor of this Bi1l. I probably would have voted to discharge

Committee. After having spent a year in hearings on thiss 1 am

absolutely morally convinced that what thfs B111 purports to do,

what the Sponsors purport that it will doy it âust would not do.

As a matter of fact. the problem that we have is a national prob-

1em of products liability and the only vay velre going to ger at

it is to establfsh natfonal standards. What we do in Illinofs is

going to affect Illinois citizens. It's going to take away rights

of the people of Illfnois. Howevery there will be no correspondfng

of benefit to Illinois manufacturers. We heald testimony before

our Comma'ttee which establfshed that only about ten percent of the

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products produced and distributed by Illinois manufacturers and

distributors are actually sold or remalned tn Illfnois. And that

means, Ladies and Gentlemen. that you'd only be affecting at most

tea percent. What this would do was bar actioas after tea years.

That means a very small fraction of a percent of possible premium

reductfon, maybe one percent at best, would be achieved. But: in

fact, the proponents in the insurance industry can't even assure

us that. They will not say and cannot say that any insurance re-

duction would be forthcoming. What fs seriously needed are broad

natfonal standards to set down and possibly a reinsùraace program

by the Federal Government that would be meaningful, that would help

Illinois manufacturers and that would help people and manufacturiag

and industry throughout this country. And I suggest to youy Ladies

and Geatlemea. that tNfs motion is very fll-founded. lt will not

do what it purports to do- You are puttfng the Lefgslature fa the

posture of giving easy answers when : there are not easy answers.

We have a lot more work to do and I would ask you to vote against

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Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Wfkoff.''

Wikoff: 'IThank you, Mr. Speakera I think wegre debating the issue and

not the motion before us. I move tbe previous question-''

Speaker Redmond: Hcentleman has moved the previous questioa. The ques-

tion is, shall the maln question be put? Those ln favor vote 'aye?

opposed 'no'. Representative Daniels, to close.''

Daniels: ''Yes, Mr. Speakery Ladies and Gentlemen of the House: I have

not stood up in front of you to tell you that th/re's any easy

solution to products liability. I haven't stood up in front of

you to tell you that the statute of repose is going to solve the

problem of the manufacturer, distributor, wholesaler of this state.

What I have said to you is that we must address the problems fn

some form in the State of Illfaois. Tbe besf form that we deter-

mine'is to look at the statute of repose,to give you an opportunity

to vote on the questfon of whether or not you want to put a statute

of repose on the concept of strict liability. Strfct liàbility

that was devised by the Supreme Court of the State of Illinots in

1965. Not by thfs Legislature: but by the Supreme Court. It's

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time that we spoke on the issue of products liabflfty. It's time

that we addressed one of the problems deating wtth products lia-I

billty. Your manufacturer, your wholesaler and your distrfbutorI

is asking for some relfef - small, maybe so - but some relief. I

' ' t to discharge the iAnd I ask you to cast an aye vote on a mot oa

IJudiciary Comma'ttee. lhank you.':

ISpeaker Redmond: ''The question is on the Gentleman's motion that the 1

Jûdicfary 1'' Committee be discharged on House Bill 1333 and it be

advanced to the Order of Second Readfng, First Legislative Day.

Those in favor of tbe motion. vote 'aye's opposed vote 'no'. Have

a11 voted who wished? Representative Dan Houlihano''

D. Houlihan: ''I'd 1ike... I1d like a verification of the Roll Cally

Mr. Speaker. Aad if it's more expeditious, an oral verification/'

Speaker Redmond: MHave a11 voted who wisbed? Clerk wïll take the

record. 0n this question there's 122 'aye' and 24 'no'. The

Gentleman has requested a poll of the abseatees first? Poll the

absentees: Mr. Clerk.''

' Daniels: HI'm not asking for a poll of the absentees.f'

Speaker Redmond: HOkay theny the verification of the Afffrmatlve Roll

Call. Every... Representative Daaiels.''

Daniels: '1We11> if he's going to persfst fn his verificatlon of 122 '

'ayef votes. Ifd like a poll of the absentees-l'

speaker Redmond: ''Representatlve Dan Houllhan. He's entitled to h1s

verification. Well, tbat's correct, but tberexs no Member who's

entitled to censor because he requests a verification. Represen-

tatfve Daniels has requested a poll of the absentees, Nr. Clerk-''

clerk Ha11: ''Abramson. E.M. Barnesy Jane Barnes, Rich Brummer: Chapman,

Corneal Davisy DiPrima, Doyle, Ebbesen, Ewell, Farley, Garmfsa,

Holewinskfy Jim Houlihan, Hudson, Huff. Emil Jones. Katzy Kosinski.n

speaker Redmend: ''Representatfve James Houlihan 'aye'. Represeata-

tive Dan Houlihan-''

D. Houlihan: ''Withdraw the request for a verificatfono''

Speaker Redmond: ''The Gentleman has withdrawn the request for a veri-

fication. Representatfve Jane Barnes 'aye'. 0a this questionI

there's 124 'aye' and 24 'not. The wotion prevails. Mouse Bilt

1333 wfl1... Judfciary I Commtttee fs discharged and it will be

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advanced to tbe Order of Second Readingy First Legislative 9ay.H

Speaker Bradley: ''On tbe Calender under Motions appears House Bi11

1535 and the Ehafr fntends to go through the mocions because ac-

cording to the rules ff we don't get these Bills out of the Com-

mittee or somethfng that they'wïll a11 die. so we'll go with

Eouse Bill 1535. For what purpose tîe Gentleman from Adams.

Mr. Mcclain. arfse?''

Mcclafn: ''For parlfamentary inqufrye''

Speaker Bradley: ''State your.a.''

Mcclain: ''The last Bill that we just heard, everybody seemed to talk

on the Bill .on the merfts of the Bill rather than to the motion.

I thfnk the rules provfde you talk to the motion. I'd ask you to

enforce that rule.'l

Speaker Bradley: î'Your poiat is well taken and weVll: if the Mewbers

will observe thaty weAll talk to... weAll speak to the motion and

not to the merits of the Bfll and wetll move thfngs along. 1he...

on House B111 1535, the Lady from St. Clairs Mrs. Youngeo''

Younge: ''Thank youy Mr. Speaker. I would move that the House Bf11 1535

be discharged from the Committee on Insurance and be moved to the

Second Reading, First Legislatfve Day. This Bill d1d receive a

hearfng in the Iasurance Commsttee but there was a bare quroum

tbere and ft is an urgent matter fnvolving the fare plan of the

State of Illinofs.r'

Speaker Bxadtey: ''Discussion: ls there anybody in opposition? The

Gentleman from Will, Mr. Kempfners-''

Kempiners: '1I apologize to the Chair for taking so long to get up on

this. I think the Lady is correct in that there weren't vety many

people fn the Committee room, but I don't think that the vote that

was taken was inaccurate. I think that bad everyone been tberey

the vote would have, tn ratio, been about tke same and I would

urge that we not discharge thfs Bfll from Committeeo''

Speaker Bradley: ''The Centleman from Cook, Mr. Madigan. The Gentle-

man from Christian, Mr. Tipswordy oa the motion.n

Tipsword: 'Yr. Speakery I regret I bad missed that this was the Bill

that was befng called for Mrs. Younge. The Bill was'before Coo-

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just over a majority. The Members of the Committee that

were there...there was howeverya full hearing kiven to theI

Bfl1 at that time when it appeared before the Committee.

Mrs. Youngea of eourse has every right to bring this motio

because she feels that there was not an adequate I

representation there. I feel that the vote probably

represents the view of the Committee however.''

Speaker Bradley: HThe Lady from St. Clair Mrs. Younge to#

Iy 11 j'close.ounge: #'I think this Bill having Eo do wich expanding the fare

plan is a matter of urgent business to people of urban

areas and I would ask you to give me the opportuaity to

have this matter heard on the House floor.u

Speaker Bradley: '1A11 in favor of che Lady's motion will

signify by votiag 'aye' opposed by voting 'no'. Have a11>

voted who wish? The Centlemen from Cook Mr. Madigaa...

to explafn his...after thiso.oall'.right. Have a11 voted

who wish? The Clerk will take the record. This question

is 46 'aye' 26 'hé' 9 voting present and the Lady's

motion fails. The Gentlemen from Cook, Mr. Madigan.''

Madigaq: MMr. Speaker, I wfsh to suspend the rules for today

only and to amend the rules relative to motions that

we will hear today. These are motions to either discharge

a Committee or to take from a Committee where there has

been a do not pass motion. I propose that we restrict .''

the debate, not explanation of vote, but that we restrict

the debate to the proponents or the mover of the motiony

the Chairman of the Committee and the Minority Spokesmaa

on the Committee. Each would have two minutes and

everyone else would explain their vote. And I so move.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Youlve heard the Gentlemen's motion. Is the e

a unanfmous consent? We will adopt that Practfce. We

wfll put the time on that for today only. And as the

Chair understands your motion that they can explain thefr !

vote for one minute. Was that part of the motion?''

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Madigan: ''Yes Mr. Speaker.n9

Speaker Bradley: ''Youfre just suspending the debate rule.

Fine. 0n the Calendar under motfons appears House Bill

2485. Tbe Gentleman from Dupage, Mr. Daniels. 0n the

Calendar...Mr. Daniels fn the Chambersoo.on the calendar

.. .take it out of the record for today... a11 right. It'siEgone for good. House Bi11 2652. Mr. Polk, the Gentleman

from Rock Islanda''

Polk: '1Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen. I move to diseharg

the Judiciary Committee 11 to move'this Bill out. It was

discussed last nfght. There were eight people ia the

Committee when the Bi11 was called. The Chairman of the

Committee spoke in.behalf of it yesterday and I would

appzeciate an 'aye' vote. This ls the Raffle Bill. This

would allow churches non-profit organizationsy veteran's

organizations to do what they're doing today, just do it

legally.''

Speaker Bradley: ''The Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich,

Chairman of the Committee, do you wish to...Mr.Katz,

I'm sorryo''

Katz: ''The Gentleman is correct. It was called about 8:30 at

night. I don't think he had a fair opportunity and I

have no opposition to his motion .''

Speaker Bradley: MMinority Spokesman. A11 right: a11 in favor

of the...Mr. Polky do you wish to close?f'

Polk: HSir it's 2652.11

Speaker Bradley: $42652. Mr. Polk, do you wish to closer'f

Polk: HNo î'

Speaker Bradley: .HIf not, the question is on the Gentleman's

motion to discharge the Committee on House Bill 2652.

A11 in favor signify by voting fayef, opposed by votiag

'no '. Mr. Lechowicz, the Gentleman from Cook.n

Lechowicz: ''Why don't you just use the Attendance Roll Call on

this stuffr'

Speaker Bradley: ''If there is no objectfon. Well, we wfll if

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there's nobody speaking againsf-it, wedll use the

Attendance Ro11zCal1...we'11 use ft..won this question...

the Clerk will take the record. 0n this question we have

118 'ayes' 1 'no' 4 voting 'presenp and the Committeey :

is . the Gentleman ' s motion prevails . House Bill 2658 .. .

The Gentleman f rom Cook y Mr . Jaf f e . ''

Jaf f e : 11 Mr . Speaker and Memb ers o f the House , I make this

motion to discharge the Elementary and Secondary

Educa tion Commit tee . Le t me j us t tell you br ie f ly what

it is a11 about . Tilis is comprehens ive s choo 1 f ormula , I

think that it is probably the mos t widely suported in the

entire State of Illfnof s . What happened was that I

appeared twice bef ore the Commit tee , I appeared on two

o c c as i on s . 0n th e f i r s t o c c a s f oIL I aske d t o Eo ahe ad .

0n that occasion I was told tha.t I could not go ahead ,

that these Bills would be ref erred to a Sub -committee

and that Sub-commit tee Gould report back the f ollowing

week. I went before the Sub-committee, we gave testimony

for two and a half hours. I was then told that that

Sub-committee would not report back to the full Committee

bn tbât partfcular date, prior to what was told to me.

And then the Bi11 was finally heard when I was not before s

the Committee, when I could not be before the Committeey

and therefore 1 was not able to get enough votes from the

Committee, and I therefore move to discharge the

Elementary and Secondary Education Committee and Put this

on Second Reading-'l

Speaker Bradley: HThe Chairman of that Committee is Mr.

Scbneider. A11 right the Minority Spokesman....is Mr.

Polk the Minority Spokesman of Education The Gentleman

from Rock Island.f'

Polk: ''Mr. Chairman and Ladies and Gentleman, I must respect-

fully ask that we do not discharge the Committee. Thfs

has received..odid receivep.oevery opportunity as Aaron

' . . .aS the Representative Just Pointed Out. He had it ia

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a Sub-committee. It was voted on in the regular

committee. It was voted down.v.his distinguished col-.

league from the southern part of the state, Mr.

Luccos.asked the committee to vote on it the second time

which we did, and it was voted down the second time.

ue are talking in total of money. We are talking about

four hundred and thirty-two million dollars over a long

range period.''

Speaker Bradley: 01 think that.o..sir, there is going to beb'Z

some objectfons and speak to the motfcn and not of ehe

Bi1l.H

Polk: nMy movè is that we do not discharge Committee, Sir.

f, ' ? ffSpeaker Bradley: Fine. Mr. Jaffe: you wfsh to close Sir

Mr. Jaffe to closepll

Jaffe: .'I hate to dispute what Representative Polk has said;

but 1et me repeat to you once again that I appeared before '

that Committee, I asked for a hearing on one day and was

turned down. They told me it was going to be sent to

Sub-committee and that it would be reported back on the

very same day, the following week that it will be sent to

Sub-committee. When I appeared before the Sub-committee

I bad two and a half hours of testimony. That testimony

was heard but the Sub-committee refused to take a vote

on that partfcular day and the only tfme that they did

take a vote was when I was not there and could not be

there for a vote which was actually two weeks later than

' ' what they told me they would give me for a vote. So I

would move to discharge that from Committee and to put it

on the Second Legislative Day.''

Speaker Bradley:'ohe question is on the Gentleman's motioa to

discharge the House Committee on House Bill 2658. A11 inI

favor of the Gentlemen's motion signify by voting laye'y I

opposed by voting 'no'. Have a11 voted who wish? Have !

a11 vo ted who wish 7 Have al1 vo ted who wish? 'rhe Clerk

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will take the record. on this question there are 66 'ayesl

64 'nosl voting presenty and the Gentlemaa from cook,

Mr . Jaf f e .''

Jaffe: 'fThe absentees.''

Speaker Dradley: HThe Gentleman...requestithe poll of the

absentees. The Clerk will poll the absentees. The Clerk

will call the absentees.

Clerk Ha11: nAbramson, Bartulis, Bluthardt, Bartulis-noy

Brummer, catania, chapman, Christensen, Cunningham,

Daniels, Deuster, Diprima, Doyley Ebbesen, Gainesy

Giglio, Griesheimer, Hoffman, Hudson, Johnson, Emft Jones,

Klosak, Kucharski Madison, Madison-ayey Manny Matejeky#

McAuliffey Biancoa Mccourt, McLendon, Meyery Molloy. Mudd,

Nardullf, O'Brfen, Schlfckman: Schnefder, Sharp: Shumpere,

Stearney: E.G. Steele Telcser, Telcser-no, Daniels-aye,

VonBoeckman, Yourell, Mr. Speakervtl

Speaker Bradley: HIhere are now 68...68 'ayes' 66 'nos' 2

voting'present',and the Gentleman's motion failed. House

Bfll 2703, a discharge motion. The Gentleman from

Champaign, Mr. Johnson. You can go ahead with...2703.î'

Johnson: nThank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House.

2703 is a simple Bi11. It prohfhlts any form of

dfscrfmfnatfon, affirmatïve or reverse discrfmfnatfona

in public educational facilities based on sexyrracey

national origin or age. I just received 11 affirmative

votes from the Judiciary I Committee and needed 12.

There were a number of Members who were elsewhere at the time.

think it fs concept that ought to be debated on the

House floor and I respectfully move that the Judiciary I

Committee be discharged and this be plaeed on the reading

of second...reading First Legislative Dayo''

Speaker iradleyz î'The Chairman of the Judfcfaryy Representative

Mann and the Vice-chairman Representative Houlihaa.

Danny Houlihan, the Gentleman from Cook.''

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Houlihan: '#0n behalf of the ailing or absent Committee Chairman

Representative Mann and in support of the Committee>

systemy I would oppose the motion to discharge. think

that the Billy both this Bill 2703 and 2704...''

Speaker Bradley: f'Mr. Houlihan, Pardon me. The Gentleman from

Cook, Mr. Barnes, for what purpose do you rise?n

Barnes: ''For the purpose of inquiry, Mr. Speaker. I believe

weîre on the Regular Calendar and according to my reading

of the Regular Calendars correct me wrong, but I

believe the Gentleman is discbarging a Committee that this

Bi11 wasntt heard in.''

Speaker Bradley: ''I understand that the...''

Barnes: 'lAccording to the Calendar, as Irm reading ity and you

are going in sequence I believe, hels filed a motion to

discharge Judp.'.ll and this wasn't heard in Jud.

Speaker Bradley: ''I think, Sfr, they correcLed that. you#ll

look on Supplemental //1...''

Barnes: ''I don't believe that we're on Supplemental #1. I

believe that wegre on the Regular Qalendar...going in

chronôlogical order on the Regular Calendar. think what

the Gentlema'n has tlune-and I have no problems with that-

I belfeve he filed another motion and that motion should

be heard in the proper order.'f

Speaker Bradley: HI'm afraid that ve are going to have to rule

that the Gentleman is not at fault.-pit is the Clerk's

Office that had a problem, and webll have to go with the

Gentlemanfs motion on 2703.''

Houlihan : ''This Bi11 and the companion measure y llouse Bill 2 704

atso sponsored l;y Representative Johnson y b0th received a

thorough hearing last evening f n the Judiciary Commit tee .

There was a subs tantial Membership of the Commit tee

resent f or the entire time that these Bills , as well asP

the other Bills were cons idered by the Commit tee . And if

tùe committee concep t means anythfng . it means think

tbat we should no t dis charge a Bi11 like this which has

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Just been recently heard and fatled to reeefve the i

adequate votes fn Committee and fn behalf of the I

(Committee Cbairman, Representative Manny I would oppose

Ithe motfonsl'

Speaker Bradley: f'The Minority Spokesman, the Gentleman from

Will, Mr. Leinenweber.''

Leinenweber: ''Yes Mr. Speaker, I rfse fn support of the motion.#

I was fn the Committee...unfortunately there was only

about sixteen or seventeen Members present at the time/

when the vote was taken because of t*e high amouat of

actlvity at the time the Bill was called...èlembers going

to other Committees. I belfeve the temporary Speaker

may not have even been present at the tfme. In any

event, I do think that eleven votes fs so close and

sfnce there were substantfal absences, that the Gentleman

should be entitled to bring the B11l to tke futl floor.l'

' Speaker Bradley: llThe Geatleman from Champaigny Mr. Johnson to

closea''

Johnson: uThank you, Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. I

would simply ask for the support of the full House in

bringing this to the House floor. Thank you.''

Speaker Bradley: OAII in favor of the Gentleman's motion oa

House Bill 2703 will signify by votiag 'aye', opposed by

voting 'no'. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a1l voted

who wishk The Clerk will take the record. On this

question there is 57 'ayes' 39 'nays' and the: #

Gentleman's motion fails. House Bfll 2704. The

Gentleman from Champaign, Mr. Johnson.''

Johnson: 1'Mr. Speaker, at this pofnt I do not want to belabor

the House's time, I would simply ask for leave of the '

same Roll Call on that. The issues are the saue. There

is no reason to bave another Roll Ca11.O

Speaker Bradley: lu s there any objections: Same Roll Call

will be on 2704 that was used for 2703 and the Gentleman'

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motion faits. On House Bilt 2766...McDona1d and Breslin,

who wants to go to bat?''

acdonald: ''Aetually thfs was an error on the calendar. It is

Representative Breslin's sotfon.''

Speaker Bradley: ''The Lady from Lasalle Representative

Breslin, on a motfon to dfscharge the Commfttee oa House

Bill 2766.''

Breslin: HYes Mr. Speaker and Members, when 2766 was called#

ft was directly after Representative Polk's Bi11. He had

a quorum callaon his Bi11. There was not a quorum

present. My Bi11 was not heard'at al1 in Judicfary II.

It was the first time it was on the Calendar. I had been

there the entire time, for three and a half hours...and

there was nothing the Committee could do but not hear it.

As...1 bèlieve Representàtive Katz will agree.''

Speaker Bradley: HThe Centleman frop Cook, Chairman of the

Judiciary II, Mr. Katz.''

Katz: HMiss (sic) Breslin remained uatil 8:30 or so...there

was not a quorum present at that pélnt. She is entitled

to a hearing and I wfll not oppose the motfon to

discharge.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Are there any objectionsz Hearing none, can

we use the Attendance Roll Call on.v.leave being granted,

. there being no objections then...the Attendence Roll Call

wfll be used and the Gentlemanls motion prevails. The

Ladygs motion. I'm serry. 2770. The Gentleman from Witl

Mr. Lefnenweberw''

Leinenweber: HThank you, Mr. Speaker. House Bill 2770 is

a rather..-it's a Bill to correct the deficiency in a

Bfll that thfs House passed, the Legislature passed and

the Governor signed last fall which was House Bi11 199.>

It involves overlapping tax distridts between counties

which do not classify and younties that do classffy. Now

it would be Gldss''thaà'honest kf I didn't say I got a1t th

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courtesy and attention and respect from the Chairman

and the hearlng was conducted fn a ffne matter. The onlyI

problem was there weren't enough downstate Legislators '

present to get ft out so I got one less than the amount I

: au .required the first time and two less than t M.amou

requifed:the second time. So a11 the Bfll does is....

created by.m.the problem was created by the fact we forgot

to have an immediate effective date on House Bill 199.

And this Bill will permït certain actions te take place

that would have been allowed if we had an immediate

effective date. So I would appreciate the opportunfty

to handle this Bill oa the floor.''

Speaker Bradley: 'Qherefs ao retly from the Chairman? Are

there any objections to the Gentlemanîs motion? Tf not,

. . . leave to use the Attendance Roll Call? Hearfng no

objectioasy the Attendanee Roll Catl will be usee on

-- House Bill 2770 and the Gentleman's motion prevafls.

House Bill 2802. I believe that the calendar is in error

It llsts Mxs. Younge, I Lhink it's MI. ... Representative

McGrew. Is Representative McGrew in the chambers? A11

rfght then, House Bill 2856. The Centleman from Lake, Mr

Griesheimer, is he in the chambers? Take it out of the

record. 0n House 3052. Mr. Levin, the Gentleman from

Cooky is he in the chambers? Mr. Levin. The last call

on these. Take it out of tbe record. House Bill 3093.

The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Flarovitz.''

Marovitz: 'Qhank you very much. I would move to discbarge

Committee on Judiciary 1I. This was a Bill that was

heard... it was the laàt Bi11 heard fn the Ju/icfary. It

was net anywhere nèar a full'committee and it did have a

predomlnance of positive votes. But because the1

Committee hearing was held late, and this was the last

Bill heard, there wasn't a full Commfttem I was aàked toI

make certain changes in the Bill by certain Members of

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the Committep. Those changes have been made and 1 would

ask that the Comnfttee be discharged and that this vote be

fn the afffrmatfve.''

Speaker Bradley: ''The Chalrman, Mr. Katz. The Minority

Spokesman...ls there any objectfon to thfs Centleman's i'

jmotion? Is there leave to use the Attendance Rotl Calt:

Take a Roll Call. Everybody in favor of the Gentlemanls

hmotfon to discharge the Committee on 3093 will vote 'aye'; ja11 opposed will vote 'no'

. Have all voted who wish? hHave a11 voted who wfsh? Mr. Beattyy witl you please vote

me fayer.? Eave a11 voted who wish? %he Clexk wilï

take the record. On this questioa there is 78 fayesl,

10 'naysl 10 votingfpresent'. The Gentteman's motion

fails. House Bill 3104. The Gentleman from Champaign,

Mr. Johnson.ê'

Johnson : ''Mr . Speaker , througb no f ault of t.he' Comiïittee., but ,tlm.

' load of the Human Resources Cowmfttee, this Bilt was not'

able to be heard by the Committee. We commeneed here at

1:30 and at 1:35 the Committee was still meeting. And

somebody tqdixcq.teq. to me that they called tbe Bill

after that, but I was on the House floor puxsuant to the

announcement that we were in Session so the Bill never

had a hearing. So I ask that $t be placed on the Calendar,

First Legfslative...second Legislative Dayy Second

Reading.

Speaker Bradley: Hshe Lady from Cook y Mrs. Chapman.'l

Chapman: ''Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, I rise to

oppose this motion. We had 32 Bills posted todyy and

almost that many Sponsors. Every single Sponsor was i

hheard. except for Mr. Johnson, who apparently wasn't able

to be wtth us. We called his Bttl two different tines

Iand he wasn't there. We were in Session until almost

t2:00. We would have been very happy to hear Mr. Johnson's

Bf1l. The attendance was very good in Committee today.

other Sponsors were patfent and sat for long periods of

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time waitfng for thefr Bills. I might add that this BillI

also bad to be specially posted and we cooperated with I

Mr. Johnson in doing that.''

Speaker Bradley: î'The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Gaines, the

Mlnortty Spokesman. You wish to..eThe Centleman from

Champaign, Mr. Johnson, to close.''

Johnson: HWe11 thank you, Mr. Speaker. Contrary to what the '

Chairman sayss this Sponsor was there from about 10:00

off and on. I've got other Bills too. The last time I was

therey.'there was three or four Bills ahead of it, they had

announced going into Session at 1:30. I was here at 1:30

and the Bi11 was calledy if at alls not until after that.

1 simply request that this Bi1l be given the opportunity

to be heard on the House floor..What the Bill does is

the Department of H.E.W. ...I'm not allowed to explatn

the Bi1l. O.K. I'd like to...''

- Speaker Bradley: HThe Minority Spokesmaay Mr. Gaines. Do you

wish to speak on the tssues Sfr?n

Gaines: ''In our Committee we had a heavy load today and

Representative Johnson was in and out of the Coamittee

Maeting and when he last left there was a little confusion

whether or not the Heuse was in Session. He left to come

over to the House and did not return. He informed me when

he got here that the House was in fact in Session.''

Speaker Bradley: ''A11 in favor of the Gentlemaals motion will'

i if b voting 'aye' opposed by votfng 'no' The9 Bn y y > .

Centleman from McHenrys Mr. Skinner, to explain hfs vote.''

Skinner: 'Q certainly think the Eouse ought to have the abiltty

to vote on whether we spend welfare money for sex change

operations, and I'm voting yes for that reason.l'

speaker Bradley: ''Have' a1t voted wbo wish? Have al1 voted who

wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question

we have 74 'ayes'zl8 'nosl...the Gentteman from Champaign,

Mr. Johnson.''

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Johnson: ''I vould l1ke... normally I don't lfke to do this, but

82 absentees, thatls signficantly more than there was fa

the past aad so 1 would ask for a poll of the absentees

or else a new Roll Ca11.f'

Speaker Bradley: ''The Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Contio''

Conti: ''Mr speaker vote me laye'xn* y

Speaker Bradley: 'lRecord the Gentleman as votfng 'aye'. Mr.

Kellyy for what purpose do you rise?'l

Kelly: ''Yes Mr. Speaker, I Just wanted to find out, how aany

votes do we need, 88...89?9'

Speaker Bradley: t'89 votes. The Gentleman from Sangamon. Mr.

Kane. What purpose do you rise?l'

Kane: HI thfnk since the Bill was not heard in Committee: ft

requires 407 to discharge.''

Speaker Bradley: nThe Parliamentarfan says 89. Mrs. Martfa,

the Lady from Cooky for what purpose do you rise?''

Martin: HPlease change my present vote to lnoly'l

Speaker Bradley: 'T ine. I think what we might do...Mr.

Johnson...Mr. Barnes, what purpose do you rfse?''rtve.WZ Barnes: ''Thank you very much

, Mr. Speaker. In a11 2ue respect,

I think tkzat the GeaLleman should have a poll of the

absentees..ol'

Speaker Bradley: ''The centleman-.o''9

Barnes: nWe can't keep running Roll Call I think if he wishes

a poll of the absentees...that#so..that's a proper reques .

QAR xz/ But tp contipue. punnïng wlth Roll Cqlls'' we'sll be here forever.

Now if you want to poll the absenteesy poll them.''

Speaker Bradley: HWe were thinking of gfving the Gentleman a

new Roll Catl...get on or get off of it and weAll move

ahead if nobody has any objectfons. A neg Rolt Calt.

A11 fn favor of the Centlemanls motiony signify by votfng

'aye' opposed by voting 'not and everybody get on one

way or the other. Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11

voted wbo wish? Now, Xr. Johnsôn.l'

Johnson: f'Explalning py vote, Mr. Speaker, this is a subject that I think

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'j that has not been heard yet. It is a matter ofI

contemporary signfficance and it is something that the

people should have an opportunity to have their elected

Representatives decide on. So we would simply ask for a

! ' es ' vote so we can get out here to discuss .'ly

, Speaker Bradley : ''The Lady f rom cook , Mrs . Wfller y to explainIS j)j her vote for one minute.kl Willer: ''I'm voting 'no' because I know what the Bill is andi

I'm baffled as to why it's befng sponsored because the!1 Department of Public Aid does not now allow that type ofl9 eration

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Speaker Bradley: ''Have a11 voted who wish? Have a11 voted who

wish? The Clerk will take the record. 0n this question

there is 83 'ayesl 32 lnos' and 10 votfng present and

the Gentleman's motion...the Gentleman from Champaign...''

Johnson: npoll the absenteeso''

Speaker Bradley: nPo11 the absentees. The Lady from Cook, Mrs.

Chapman.ls

Chapman: HMr. Speaker, should this receive 89 votes? request

a ve.rification wlth the affirmative Roll Cal1.H

Speaker Bradley: 'lYou are within your rightsy and we will

certainly do

Clerk O'Brien: HAbramson, E.M. Barnesy..''

Speaker Bradley: HThe Gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich, for

what purpose do you rise?n

Matijevich: HMr. Speaker, there's been a Republican who always

says when he has a conflict of interest wonder if he's

got one on this Bi11.H

Speaker Bradley: nPo11 the absentees.o

Clerk O'Brfen: nBeatty, Bluthardt, Bowman, Bradley, Bradyy

Brandt Rich Brummer capparellf corneal Davfs Deuster.

Diprfma, Doyle, John Dunny Ebbesen, Flinny Garmisa, Gettyy

Giglio, Hanahan Hart, Dan Houlihan: Hudson, Jacobsy

Jaffey Emil Jonesy Klosaka Kosinskiy Kozubowski, Levinx

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Luccoy Madisony Mann, Marovitzy Matejeko Mcclainy Mccourt,

Hanahan-laye':lMcGrews McLendon. Meyer: Nardulli. I

Richmond Robfnsons Schlickmany Schneider, Sharpy Terzfch,#

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Tipsword, VonBoeckman, Youngev Mr. Speakeren

Speaker Bradley: '%n this questfon there are 84 'ayes' and

ithe Gentleman's motion fails. House Bill 3118. The

Gentleman from Wihaebagoy Mr. Giorgia''

Giorgi: ''Mr. Speaker, I move that the Judiciary Committee 11...

House Bill 3118 be moved from that Committee and advanced '

to Second Reading and not have the permfssfon of the

Chairman because time did run out on the hearings for

31t8y it is a very innocuous Bill. '1f there are no

objectfons I move for the motion.îf

Speaker Bradley: HChairman of the Committee, Mr. Katz.''

Katz: nNo objections.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Are' there any...no objections to the...I

hear objections. The Minority Spokesman...who's the

Minority Spokesman? Mr. Skinner, are you Minority

Spokesman for that Committee?''

Skinner: 'Qhe Commfttee never meètsow.f'

Speaker Bradley: 'Q-asked, are you the Minority Spokesman?''

skinner: nl just answered your question.''

Speaker Bradley: nl didn't hear your answer.'ê

Skfnner: ''I said the Committee never meets because I'm the#

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Minority Spokesmaao''

speaker Bradley: ''That's out of order.''

Skinner: ''What do you mean? IRm the Minority Spokesman.''

speaker Bradley: HAII right. A1l in favor of the Geatleman's

.. amotion... If you would reply, Sir, wfthout giving a

dissertation...fine. I was trying to recognize the

Minority Spokesman and I recognized a Gentleman, Mr.

Skinner.''

Skinner: ''Right Sponsory wrong Committee.l'

Speaker Bradley: ''A1l in favor of the Gentleman's motion

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signify by voting 'aye', opposed by votfng 'nc'. Rave

a11 voted who wish? ïhe Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Walsh,

to explain hfs vote.'f

Walsh: ''Mr. speakers this is indeed a significant Bi11. It

expands gambling in the State of Illfnois and it permits I

the gambling on so-called antique slot machines. I

suggest whether it had a hearing or not, we know what it

does, and it should aot pass. We should not waste our

time with it.'f

Speaker sradley: ''Have a1l voted who' wish? The clerk will

take the record. On this question there are l00 'ayes'

18 enos' and the Gentlemaa's motion does prevail. For

what purpose does the Centleman from Cook, Mr. Telcsery

rfse?''

Teleser: tîMr. Speaker and Members of the House, a Bill was

called a few moments ago on a diseharge motion and none

. of the Members were really paying attentfon. I wonder ff

. .ytherefs a Gentleman voting against the Bi11, who would

now move to reconsider the vote by whfch that motion

fafled. I wonder if thfs would be an opportune time for

the Speaker to ca11...''

Speaker Bradley: ''Mr. Telcser: at this time I think it would b

fair if we went through thfs and went through the Calendar

and we'll get back to that, I promise you. Al1 right.

A11 right. The Gentleman from.a.House Bill 3183....èfr.

Lechowicz.o.the Gentleman from Cook-''

Lechowicz; 'Qhank you, Mr. Speaker. I discussed this wfth the

Chafrman of the Revenue Commfttee aad I ask leave of the

Hovse to submit 3183 to the Interln Study Calendar.''

Speaker Bradley: ''The Gentleman has leave and the Bill will be I

submitted with the Attendance Roll Call and the Bi11 wi11 lbe Committed to the Interfm Study. 'House Bi11 3199. The

1, IGentleman from Winnebagos Mr. Ciorgi. I

Gforgi: ''Mr. speaker, I move that the Committee of the Rouse

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Bfll 3199 be discharged and the Transportation coumittee

advance to Second Reading, First Legislative Dayy because

of the...the Bill was heard in Committee, there weren't

enough Members to culminate a heartng. I was asslgned to

the Revenue Committee that evening and I couldn't attend

in person, but Mr. Carmisa, the Chairman of the

Transportation Committee, handled the Bi11. Mr. Mcclain

is Vice-chafrman and Mr. Skinner is going to joia in

approving this gesture. I move for the motion.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Mr. Mcclainy the Gentleman from Adams-''

Mcclafn: NYes, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Giorgf Is l00 Z.correct.

By the time we got to his Bills there was not sufficient

Members for the passage of that Bi11. Therefores the

malority would concur with Mr. Giorgi's motion to place

it on Second Reading, First Legislative Day.'l

Speaker Bradley: 'IThe Minority Spokesman, Mr. Skinner.n

Skinner: HI'm afraid I'm not gofng to be able to stop laughfng.

Right Sponsor. Right Committee. This is one of Zeke's

merely Bills. It is only going to cost about 125 million

dollars. He is correct that there weren't enough votes

there, but he is fncorrect thato..excuse me, am I...O.K....

Speaker Bradley: Mproce'ed Sir. I heard some ...l knew there

was.o.objecttons oa the motion. Stick to the motton.

Proceed.''

Skinner: ''I haven't talked about filling pot holes with paper,

yet. The Bill was under consideration when the Committee

Chairman gaveled the Committee to a close. It was not

that there was not a quorum. It was that the Comœittee

Chairman didn't have the votes to get it out of Committee.

Well, why not debate it on the floor. It's only a 125

million dollars.n

Speaker Bradley: ''The Centleman from Winnebago, Mr. Gtorgiy to

close.n

Girogi: ''Thatls right, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Skinner is entirely

correct. The meetfng had worn ftself out: but there were

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enough votes to pass the Bi11. A11 it does is allow the

Capital Development Bonding Authority...l mean the...n

Speaker Bradley: ''A11 in favor of the Gentlemanls motion signif

by voting 'aye' opposed by voting 'nof. Have a1l voted

who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? The Gentleman from

Winnebagoy Mr. Simms, to explafn his vote.'î

Sfmms: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housey in

explaining my 'yes' vote, I would urge my Republican çol-

leagues T to join and give some additional green votes. !!This is a Bill that should be debated on the full House

floor because this is commitments that were made in prior

years and administrations under Covernor ogilvie and

Speaker Blair to the entire General Assembly. For these

reasons this is necessary for the expansion of the

. industrial part of the State of Illinois and I would ask

that there be some additional votes for this.''

- Speaker Bradley: HHave a11 voted who wfsh? Have a11 voted who

' wish? Have a11 voted who wish? The Clerk will take tbe

record. The Centleman from Kankakeey Mr. Ryano''

Ryan: ''Mr. Speaker, how many votes does this need?'î

Speaker Bradley: ''To discharge, 89 votes.''

Ryan: ''I'd like to verlfy it.''

Speaker Bradley: ''The Gentleman requests verification. Mr.

Giorgi, do you want the poll of the absentees. Sir?'' .

Giorgi: MTake it out of the record momeatarily, would yôu

lease? ''P

Spe aker Brad 1ey : ''Take i t out o f the re cord moment ar i1y .

House Bill 1332 . Senate Bill 1332 . The Cen tleman f rom

Kankakee, Mr. Ryan .'f

Ryan: ''You can take that out of the record tooy Mr. Speaker.

Speaker Bradley) HHouse Resolution 467. Mr. Bluthardt. He fs

not in the chambers. House Resolution 785. Mr. Stuffle.

Take it out of the record. Mr. Collfnsp on your motion.

Take it out of the record. Mr. Mccourt. Take tt out of

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1 the record. Now we will move back to 3093 and theGentleman from Cooky Mr. Mahary for a motiono''

Mahar: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Having voted on the prevafling

j . 'k ? 's f de by wh ich 11 (B .'. :393 '. wa#.' def eqted , I move to rec ons i de r . 'fIk! Speaker Bradley: nThat's 3093. We will take a Roll Call on theI

Gentleman's motion to reconsfder. Al1 fn favon of

reconsidering.o.the Gentleman from cooky Mr. Madigan.''1

Madigan: nMaybe we ought to take that out of the record for

a few minutes to find out where we're at-''

Speaker Bradley: ''Fine. We will continue on the Supplemental.

House Bill 2893. Mr. Matejek. The Gentleman from Cooky

Mr. Yourell.''

Yourell: MThank you Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

House. House Bills 2893 and House Bills 2894 were posted

in Counties and Townships Commfttee yesterday. Mr.

Matejek could not appear in behalf of bis legislation

because he became i11 and went to the hospttal: And it's

my understanding that be is still i11 and I ask nowylin

order to give him a fair hearing, to move to discharge the

Counties and Townships Committee oa House Bi1.l 2893 and

2894 and place these Bills oa the Order of Second Reading,

Secoad Legislative Daypn

speaker Bradley: nThe Gentleman first is...is asking leave to

hear both motions...Bills at the same time, is there

objections? If there is no objections we will consider

them b0th at the same time. Mr. Wikoff, are you the

Minority Spokesnaa?''

Nikoff: HI have a parliamentary inquiry.''

speaker Bradley: nstate your pointw''

Wlkoff: ''I think it was a misunderstanding fn Second Reading:

Second Legislative Day...or First Legislative Day. I

believe the Gentleman said Second Legislative Day and the

calendar calls for the ffrst.''

Speaker Bradley: 'Qhe motfon says First Legislative Day..ofsI

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that the motion Mr. ...thatts the Gentleman's motion.

The Gentleman from Knoxy Mr. McMaster, the Mtnority

' spokesman.''

McMaster: ''Mr. speaker, Iêm not speaking to the intent of the

legislation. It was not heard. They were fee fncreases.

I do not know the reason vhy Matejek could not attend,

but obviously he was not there. We were in Sessfon but he

couldn't attend. I would imagine that we could debate the

quality of the Bi11 from the floora but I would rather

these things could be heard in Committee. I'm sorry Mr.

Matejek was i11 and couldn't attend.tt

Speaker Bradley: nMr. Yourell do you wish to ctose, Sixî''

Yourell: ''As Chairman of that Commfttees I can assure you that

this is the first tfme I have moved to dïscharge commtttee

or supported that motion. But I think that this is a uniqué case.

Representative Matejek d1d go to the hospital. He is very

i1l and I suggest in order to accommodate his lesislation,

that ft fs only proper and fftting, and certainly courteou

to him, to have this motion approved. 1 don't kaow what i

in the Bills. and of course we can't talk or speak of the

merit of the Bills. I'm Just asking that courtesy ahd

consideratfon be shown to Mr. Matejek in this instance and

I again move to discharge Committee and place these Bills

on Second Reading: First Legfslatfve Day.''

Speaker Bradley: 1'Mr. Mchfasters is not objecting theny is that

correct? A11 right. Do we have leave to use the

Attendance Roll Call on the motion? There are objections?

Al1 in favor of the Gentleman's motion..omotions on 2893

and 2894 will signffy by voting 'ayet: opposed by voting

. 'no l. Have a11 voted who vish? Have a1l voted <ho wish?

The Clerk witl take the record. On tbis question we have

l05 'ayes' 1 fno' aad 14 voting preseat and the motion@ @

on the two Bills prevails. House Bill 2949. The &.I

Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Davis.''

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Davis: nMr Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,

my motion is to dfscharge the Committee on Public

Utilities.on House Bill 2949 and place it on the calendar i

on Second Readingy First Legislative Day. I'm not

qriticizing the Committee at all. The Bi11 had a fair

hearing, but the full Committee was not present and this is i

a demonstrable emergency and I think a11 of us would want

to be recorded on this Bi11. A brief explanatfon. ThisI

Bf11 would allow tenants in a master-metered apartment

buflding.to take a11 the utilfty payments, fn thefr own

namesy before the utility company terminates their account

for the landlordls nonpayment. The tenants would not be

liable for the amount past due on the landlord's account

and could deduct the utility payments from the rent owed

to the landlord. This Bill would benefit everyone. It

will benefft everyone. lt is not anti-utility. It will

' benefft the utilfty company vho would contlnue to recefve

the revenue from the building. It would benefit the

tenants who would not be forced to move because the

utilities have been terminated. It wfll the landlord who

would not be left with an abandoned building with pipes

bursting and boilers bursting. And 1et me say finally:

that I went with the Insurance Commission and Committee

a11 through the districts up there and I saw abandoned

bufldings wfth windows torn out and doors torn down. And

somebody said if this Bill Passed in the Committee that

a 1ot of Madison Street Bumsv..and so forth. Let me tell you as cold

as it was last winter, nobody could stay in one of these

abaadoned buildings. Everybody loses because...even the

insurance company loses when the buildfng is set on fire

and burned down. I say a11 of us ought to have a chance

to be recorded and I beg you in the name of decency to

discharge the Committee from consideration of this Bi11.

speaker Bradley: nThe Gentleman from Kane, Mr. Schoeberlein.

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Evidently your mike is not working. Would you try Mr.

Walshls or Mr. Bennett'sî Mr. Walsh will you hand himfy '

yôur ...I

Walsh) t'Donlt wear it out now, Al.H

Schoeberlein: g'I'm afraid of this mfke. Mr. Chairman and

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housey this Bill was given a

full hearing, proponents and opponents. A 1ot of time was

spent and we were here until after 8:00 at nfght. I think

and I still believey they should have...go to an Interfm

Study Committee because there fs a problem but ft can not

be ironed out on the floor of the House by having a hearin

on lt again. I therefore move tbat...l therefore recomaen

that this Bill not be heard on the floor of the House.''

Speaker Bradley: nThe Gentlemaa opposes the motion. The

questioa fs on the Gentleman's motion relevant to House

Bllt 2949. A11 in favor of the Gentleman's motiona..èlr.

- Davis, do you wisb to close the debate, Sir?nC.

Davis: ''One minute, please. I hold in my hand an editorfal

from the newspapers tellfng you that the Supreme Court.

the highest 1aw interpretlng body of this ations said

the other day on May the 2nd that the United States

supreme Court safd that the public utilities violates the

Constitution when they cut off services without giving

customers a chance to even discuss their bflls. I tell

you there is an emergency. Turn ft over to our Study

Committee if you will and I don't know how next winter is

going to besbut God ïn heaven knows if i0s as eold next

wlnter as it was last wiater, and the man testifted in one

of these buildings, with eighteen ehitdren, do y@u hears

if it is that cold you'll have it on your consctencep'l#

'

Speaker Bradley) ''A11 in favor of the Gentleman's motion will signifv

by voting 'aye' opposed by votfng îno'. Have a11 voted

who wish? Have a11 voted who wish? The Clerk will take

the record. On this question we have 98 'ayes' 18 'nos?#

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and 9 voting present and the Gentleman's motion prevails.i

House Bi11 3080. The Centleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinsonw''I

Vinson: ''Mr. Speaker. you are the ffrst man in that Chair that

has recognized that I'm from DeNitt not Logan County and

I appreciate that.n

Speaker Bradley: ''I was proud to be able to do it, Sir.1'

Vinson: ''l would move to discharge the Committee on Judiciary I

of House Bfll 3080. It is a limited Medicak Malpractice

Bf1l that was heard very late in the Committee tast night,

Several Members had left hecause it came up after several

hours of debate on products liabflity. I belfeve the Bi11

deserves a fair hearing on the floor. I do not want to

suggest that the acting Chairman was in any way discourteo s

arbitrary, or caprfcious. He was not. There was not an

adequate opportunity to have the Bi11 heard due to the

time and I would request a favorable vote on the discharg

motion.''

Speaker Bradley: 'Qhe Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Houlihaa.'l

Houlihan: ''Thank you, Flr. Speaker. I rise fn oppositfon to

the motfon of Representative Vinson. Although ft was late

in the evening at the time that the Bill was considereds

I think however, that the issue of medfcal malpractice is

one that the Judiciary I Committee particularlyy and this

House as a whole has considered extenstvely now over the

past three years. We are no longer, fortunately, tn the

crisïs sftuation that we faced a eouple of years ago.as

far as medical malpractice here ia the State of Illinois

is concerned. Thatîs because.in substantial part, of leg-lslatlon that was considered and passed by this ceneral

Assembly directfng itself to that issue. I think it vould be

premature at this time for this House to consider medfcal

malpractice. Certainly not this late in the Sessioa and'

certainly not now when we are going to be facing products!

lfabilityy ahl'.fssue of simfllar importance: but much more

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fmmed f ate than cer tainly pedical malpractice is s at least

currently: and in consequence I would urge a 'no% vote on

the Gentleman's motionvu

Speaker Bradley: ''The Gentleman from Willy Mr. Lefnenweber, the '

hMinorfty Spokesman.''

Lefneaweber: ''Mr. Speakery I would have to agree with both

Gentlemen. I certainly did oppose this Bill in commtttee

and I told the Sponsor of the Bill 1 plan to oppose the

Bill on the floor. Howevery the centleman fs correct.

H1s Bill was called at the tail end of the Sessionp

practfcally 8:30 fn the evening. He did not...I think ft'

fair to say he received the attentfon of the Committee

Members. His wftnesses were not given a. . .I donft have

any critfcism of anybody because 1 was certainly as

anxious as everybody to get outy so I do questfon whether

or not he dfd have an adequate opportunfty to presest the

. 3i1l. Again I have personal reservations on the Bi11 and

1 told the Sponsor thfss but I thought these matters ought

to be brought to the attention of the Eouse.''

Speaker Bradley: ''The Gentleman from DeWitt. Mr. Vinson, to

close.''

vinson; ''Mr. Chairmaay there is stfll a crtsfs in matpractioe

that is reflected in the eost of health care in thts

country. 1 again, earnest solictt a 'yes' vote on the

motion té dlscharge.''

Speaker Bradley: HAII in favor of the Gentlenaa's motton will

signify by voting 'aye' opposed by votfng lnof. nave a11#

vo ted who wish ? Ilave a11 vo ted who wish ? Danay . . . f lye' ,

tease. Rave a11 voted vho vish? 'rhe çentleman from Cook, lTh' 'Walshy to èxplafn hi: vote.î' IMr.

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alsh: î'We11, in hopes that tbe vote will remain as it is, Xr.I

Speaker. I submit that there fs at least as big a crisis 1

in medical malpractfce as their is in products liàbility .

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The cost of medfcal insurance and medieal care are not

Withstanding the legislation that we passed a year ago

which, letfs face it, was relatfvely meaningless. costs

have riseny claims have risen: doctors can't buy medical

malpractice: we are losfng people from the practfce of

medfcine, hospitals have quadrupled their. . .

Speaker Bradley: nMr. Walsh, could you speak to the motion,

P i C Y S C * ' î

Walsh: ''The motion fs simply that there is a crisis, Mr.

Speakery that we ought to address ourselves to. 1 would

hope that we would do that and gfve this sufficient votes.'

Speaker Bradtey: nHave a11 voted who wish? I would certafnly

be hopeful that only those who are fn attendance are votin

so that we don't have to go througb a verification. ..so if

. . .if they are not here would you please put them on

present or...and we will Proceed. I'm sure Mr. Mouliban

is soing to ask for verification.t.to a...Mr. Vinson wfll

ask for a poll of the absentees. I am wondering ff we. ..

the Gentleman from DeWitt, Mr. Vinson.n

Vinson: ''Has Mr. Houlihan requested verificationk''

Speaker Bradley: nHe is going to'; yes.''

Vinson: ''Dump Take it out.''

Speaker Bradley: HOut of the record, Sir?î'

Vfason: ''Yes 1'

Speaker Bradley: MTake it out of the record. House Bill 3081.

The Gentleman from Delfitt, Mr. Vinson. Siry Mr. Vinsony

do you wish to proeeed on 3081?11

Vinson: 3'No H

Speaker Bradley: ''Take it out of the reeord. On tbe

Supplemental #2y appears House'Bill 3206. Mr. Levin.

Is he in the chambers? don't thfnk so. Take it out of

the record. House Bill 3278. The Lady from Lake Mrs.

ceo-Karis. She fs here and I knew she would be. Mrs.

ceo-Karfs.î'

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Geo-Karis: HA point of information. Can I Just take ft out of

the record and take care of that Tuesday, Sfr?''

Speaker Bradley) Hlf we dontt move with it now, ft's tabled

when we are through this evening. Otherwtse: think you

could move later with 107 votes.''

Geo-Karis: 'Vjr. Speaker and Ladfes and Gentlemen of the House,

this Bill was Posted. It was assigned to the.. .vas heard

fn Rules last Thursdayy and the...then ft was assigned to

the Committee on state qovernment. But the Committee on

'State Governmenty as I understand it, had already made its

posting. And yesterday I asked for a suspension of the

rules for posting. The Committee on State Government

were good enough to post it. Howevery they never had a

quorum to hear thfs Bf11. This morning it was set for ako

hearing at 11:00 and Representatfve Cissy was goods tlz

enough to appear for me with the Bilt because I was at the

' o . .the Environment Committee...Minority Spokesman. We had

a 1ot of Bills to get out there. She tells me there was

never a quorum to act on the Bi11 and 1 would like very

much to suspend the rules and put it on Second Readingy

Ffrst Day. I can assure you that I will keep it there

untit the Bitl is meaningfully amended. This Bi11> after

ft is amended properly, will make it possible for the

State of Illinois to get three million dollars from the

federatq government for thermal use.''

Speaker Bradley: nThe Gentleman from Saagamon, Mr. Kane.î'

Kane: NAs Co-chairman of that Committee I would oppose this

motion to discharge. There was a quorun there. There

were not votes enough to pass outtand the B111 is not-

in proper form. It still needs tolbe amended.

' We do have

Committte Bill in the Committee that deals with the same

subject and we would like to use that Bi11 as a vehicle,and would oppose this motion to discharge commictee

.''

Speaker Bradley: nThe Lady from St. Clair, Mrs. Stieht.'?

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Stiehl: DThank you, Mr. Speaker. I rfse in support of this

motion. The Sponsor dfd ask for a hearfng. We tried on

several occasions to get a quorumy but the Members were

busy wfth their other Committees. There were only threeIMembers there. There was no opportunity for the Bill to

Ireceive a fair hearing. I think it's only fair that the

ILady be given a chance to have this Bill heard on the

floor of the House. And I would ask for a green vote.'l

Speaker Bradley: ''Ms. Geo-Karisa do you wish to close?''

Geo-Karis: ''I Just respectfully ask for consfderation because

the fact that there was no quorum was no fault of miney

and I would apprecfate it, and I1d give my word on this

floory for the recorda that I certainly won't hold ft

untfl the Amendment has been put in fts proper form.îî

Speaker Bradley: ##A11 in favor of the Lady's motion will signf y

by voting 'ayet, opposed by voting rno'. Have al1 voted

who wfsh? Have a11 voted who wish? The Clerk will take

the record. On thls question there are 61 'ayes', 13

'nos' none voting 'present' and the Lady's motion .g.Mr.>

'

,

Mulcahey what...and the Lady's motfon fafls. A motioa

that is not on Lhe Calendar but the.e.the Gentleman from

Kinneibago, Mr. Mulcaheyy for what purpose do you rfse?''

Mulcahey: NMr. Speakery I1d lfke to go home. Would it be okay.

kf Representative Dunn voted my swftch for me?''

Speaker Bradley: ''Is that against the rules? We would have to

suspend the rules and I dongt think we can do thatm''

Mulcahey: ''Oh is that against the rules?n

speaker Bradley: ''Weîre going to move along here rather

rapidly and we wonft have much longerv...''

Mulcahey: ''I don't want to break the ruleswvvthatfs okay.

Thank you.''

Speaker Bradley: HOn a motion to discharge...it's noL on the

Calendar..mto discharge House Bill 777 from the Revenue

committee. On that issue, the Gentleman from Mchenry.

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Mr. Skfnner...the Gentlemaa from Cook, Mr. Madigano''

adigan: HPotnt of parliamehtary inquity.l'i

Speaker Bradley: nState your point.''

adigan: HThe matter fs not on the Calendar. Does the I

Gentleman propose to suspend t*e rules to consider thiss '

and if he does, what is the vote requirement?'' I

Speaker Bradley: ''It would take 107 votes to suspend the rules. I

Mr. Skiaaer will have to suspend the rules...l'

Madigan: ''I want to announce my oppositfon to your motton, Mr.

Skfnner, and suggese ehac you wfthdraœ...maybe entfrely.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Mr. Skinaer, do you wish to a prevail...witi

the motton.''

Skinner: nWe11 certainly, considerating part of the reason for

entering the motion was that the Representative who Just

spoke was illegally on the Committee, replacing

Representative Capparelliy who was quite well at the time.

- I certainly want to proceed. vitb my motion even though I

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Speaker Bradley: 'fWe11 you ean't proceed with the motion until

you suspend the rules so...

Skinner: ''That ïs ïn the motïon, ïs lt not?''

speaker Bradley: ''It will take 107.''

Skinner: ''That is the motion 1 signed. Isn't it?''

' Speaker Bradley: ''You have moved to dfscharge the commfttee.

You can move...if you want to move...''

Skinner: ''I signed two discharge motions. I think one of them

had right on the face of it that it required 107 votes.

Speaker Bradley: 1'A11 right. A1t right. 1he Gentlemaa moves to

suspend the calendar requfrement. A11 in favor of the

centleman's motfon, ft Gill take 1O7 votess sfgnffy by

voting 'aye' opposed by votlng 'no'. This is oaly on the

Calendar requirements. Representattve Pierce to explain' j

Sir.l' Iyour vote,' Pierce: ''Mr. Madigan was appointed to the Committee on Tuesday

when Mr. ca arellf was in the doctors offlce in Chicayo.

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Mr. Capparelli was not here on Tuesday. Mr. Madigan was

appoiated for that sessfon and Wednesday was a recessed

session so the Speaker appointed him legally. This Bill

had several hearings ln Comndttee. fs a pretty good

Bill and will pass one of these years, but there fs no

reason why the Committee should be discharged at thts

V. i m C . ' î

Speaker Bradley: HThe Gentleman from McHenry: Mr. Skfnner, to

explain his vote.''

Skinner: ''The Bi11 was voted on on Wednesday and Represeatative

Capparellf was here. He was recorded on the Roll Call.

It was a fairly close vote. If everybody would have been

there it would have got out of Committee. This Revenue

Comlaitte has not votcd out one substantive pièce of

'real estate tax reform legislation this year. By reform

legislatton, 1 don't mean tax relief legislation. I mean

whether tax payer A is fairly taxed compared to tax payer

B. This is the only piece of meaningful legislatfoa that

has been proposed and ft deserves full debate. Naturally

the tax payers don't care, so who caresr'

speaker Bradley; 'lHave all voted who vfsh? Have al1 voted who

wish? The Clerk will take the record. On this question

there are 60 'ayesl 23 'no:' and the Gentleman's motion

fails. Now will you take care of three Bills? House

Bill 2532 Representative Geo-Karisy House Bill 2609

Lynn Martin and Pierce House Bill 2668 Jack Davis will' , .

you want to return those Bills to the Interim Study

Committee? Could we use tbe Attendance Roll Catl7 The

Gentleman from cook, Mr. Madigan.l'

Madtgan: ''Mr. Speaker, would you please explain Bill by Billy

what you propose to do?'f

Speaker Bradley: f'A1l right. These Bills are in Committee

and they are not oa the Calendar. They wish to be placed

in.a Interim Study, so that they would not be tabled. Is

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that a1l right, Sir?f'

Madlgan: ''No,ebjectlond''

Speaker Bradley: 'fNo objection. Hearing no objectioa ve will

use the Attendance Roll call and return those Bills to 1

Intertm study. Will the Clerk read the numbers of the i

three Bills? I

clerk O'Brfen: f'House Bi11 2532, Representattve Geo-Karfs,

House Bi11 2668, Representative Jack Davis, and House Bill .1

2609, Lynn Martin and Pferce.are the Sponsors.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Now...one othen bit of business Mr. ...the

Gentleman from Cooky Mr. Mahar.'l

Mahar: ''Mr. Speaker, I renew my motion fn regard to House Bill

3093. The motion...

Speaker Bradley: ''I say the motion... The Gentlemants motion is

to re.-.having voted on the prevailing side, he wïshes to

reconsider House Bill...the vote by which the motton

failed on 3093. A11 in favor of the Gentlemangs motion

to reconsiderv..the Gentleman from Rock Islaad Mr.>

Darrow.''

Darrow: ''Thank youf Mr. Speaker and tadies and Gentleaea of the

' House. I don't believe the Spoasor of this Billy

Representative Marovitzy is on the floor. I don't know if

we ought to Proeeed without him whether is is in favor of

or agaiast thfs motion. Perhaps we eould clarify that

f i r s t . 1 1

Speaker Bradley : ''1 think we have a principal Cosppnsor hy-

phertated on this Bill and he is on the f loor . . .and let 9 s

r o c.e e d . . . ; ''P .

Darrow : ''We11. with bis sponsorship , I f m sure we $ 11 get the

votes neeessary . ''

Speaker Bradley : ''Al1 in f avor o f the Centleman 9 s motfon to

reconsider will signif y by vo ting 1 aye ' , opposed by

vo ting I no ' . . . on the Gen tleman 9 s mo tion . It requires 89

votes . Have a11 vo ted who wish ? Have a11 voted who wish .

The Clerk will take the record. The Clerk vfl1 take the ecord'

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0n thts question there are 74 êayes, 1 'no? and the

Gentlemanfs motion fatls. The Gentleman from Cooky Mr

Madigan.''

Madigan: ''>Ir. Speakers 1 now move for the adoption of the

Adjournment Resolutloa ff the Clerk vfll read the

Resolution.''

clerk o'Brien: ''Sena'te Joint Resolution 81. Resolved by the Senate of

the 80th General Assembly of the State of Illinoisy House

of Representatives concurring hereiny that when the Senate

adjourns on Thursday, May h, 1978:. it stands adlourned'unt'l

Tuesday, May 9, 1978, 12:00 noon. When the House of

Representatives adjourns on Criday, May 5: 1978, it stands

adjourned unttl Tuesday, May 9, 1978, at 1:00 p.m.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Yougve heard the Adjourament Resolution. A11

fn favor signlfy by saying 'ayè' opposed 'no'. The 'ayes'

have ft and the Adjournment Resolutfon fs adopted. Agreed

Resolutions. The Gentleman from Lakey Mr. Matijevfchy for

what purpose do you rise?''

Matijevich: ''Mr. Speaker, before everybody runs out of here,

there's about three Members of the Kppropriations Commit-

tee 1. thàt have asked me ff we are meeting Tuesday becau e

of that tentative schedule that was placed on thefr desks.

The Appropriation I Committee is not meeting until

Wedaesday at the normal time of 2:00 p.m. We are not

meeting on Tuesday.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Agreed Resolutions. A11 right we'1l...a11

rfghty for the benefit of the Nembers we'll'do the Agreed

Resolutions. We#re going to read soce Commfttee Reports

and there will be a Perfunct at 10:00 tomorrow morning

and we will be in adjournment until 1:00, May 9, next

Tuesdayz' The adjournmenta.oAgreed Resolutions.''

Clerk O'Brien: HHouse Resolution 807, Jane Barnes. 808.

Yourell, 809,Emfl Jones, 811, Geo-Karfs; 812, Lechocfcz,813, Yourell, 815, Feggy Smith Martin: 816: Richmonds '

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Speaker Bradley: uThe Gentleman from Winnebagoo..are you done?''t

Clerk O'Brien: :1810 I mfssed. That was Terzich. 810 vas in

there . ''

Speaker Bradley : ''Tl:e Gentleman f rom Winnebago , Mr . Giorgi .''

Giorg:t : t'Mr . Speaker s Barne s 1 Re so 1ut ion 80 7 t ells about S t .

L inus Gramme r Schoo 1 Champ ionship . Yourell î s 808 no tes

th a t 1) r . Ma r y E l le n Man c i na B a t 'i. a i ch :7 i t 1 b e hono r e d as a

' resident o L the I t altan-Amer i can war ve teran . ''

Speake r Bradley : ''The Gen tleman moves the adop t ion o f a11 the

Agreed Resolutions . A11 in f avor the Gen tlematt ' s

mo tion . . . A11 in f avor of adopting . . .tbe adoption o f the

. . .Agreed Resolutions s ignif y by saying ' aye ' , opposed

' no ' . The ' ayes ' have it and the Resolutions are adopted .

Mr . Madigan . General Resolut ions . ''

Cterk () r Brien : ''Ilouse Resolution 814 y Porter . House Joint

Resolutf on 87 , Por ter . House Joint Resolutf ort 88 s Keats . '

speaker Bradley : llcommittee on As signment . We need about 10

miautes f or Per f unc t . 'rbe Gentleman f r om cook , Mr .

Madigaa . '>

Madf gan ) Mr . Speaker , wi th allowance f or this evenf ngs

P e r f un c t o ry s e s s :L on and t omo r r ow's P e r f unc t o r y s e s sion > I

now move that we adj ourn until Tuesday at l : D0 .''

Speake r B radl ey : ''A1l in f avo r o f the Gen t leman # s mo t f on s igni y

b y s a y i n g l a y e # o p p o s e d e no ' . T h e ' a y e s ' h a ve i t an d

the House staads adjourned until 9...stands in Perfunct

for 10 minutes...and be in Perfunct tomorrow and we wfl1

be back in sesston May...pursuant to the Adjournment

Resolution.n

clerk O'Brien: ''Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright,

secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directed to inform the

House of Representatfves that the Senate has concurred

with the House in the adoption of the followtng Joint

Resolution ao wit: House Joint Resolution Constitutiona

GENER AL ASSEM BLYFTA T' * 0 F 1 LL1 - o 1 5

yê 0 u l K o F R K PR K@l HTAYI M E *

5-1-78

I

4

87.

Amendmeat //21. concurred in by the Senatea May 4. 1978.

Kenneth Wrights Seeretary. A message from the Senate by i

' Mr. Wrights Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I au directed to 1

finform the House of Representatives that the Senate has

Iconcurred with the House in the adoption of the following

Jotnt Resolution, to wit: House Joint Resolution I

constitutional Amendment //47 concurred in by the Senate, I

May 4, 1978. Kenneth Wrighty Secretary. Message from the IISenate by Mr. Wright. Secretary. Mr. Speaker, I am directe

to inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has

passed Bills of the follovïng titles, passage of whfch I

am fnstructed to ask the concurrence of the House of

Representatfves to wft: Senate Bflls 1662, 1663, 1664:

1692, 1693, 1694, 1695. 1697. Passed by the Senate May 4,

1978, Kenaeth krfght, Seeretary. Message from the Senate

by Mr. Wrighty Secretary. Mr. Speakery I am directed to

inform the House of Representatives that the Senate has

passed Bills of the following titlesy fn the passage of

which I am instructed to ask the concurrence of the House

of Representatfves, to wit: House Bills 1653. 1654, 1655,

1656, 1657, 1658, 1659, 1660, and 1661. Passed by the

Senate May 4, 1978. Kenneth Wrighty Secretary. Comnittee

Reports. Representative E.M. Barness Chairman of the

Committee on Approprlations IIy to which the following Bi11

*as referred. action taken May 3, 1978, reported the samel

back with the following recommendation: do pass as amended

House B11l 2978. Representative Ftinn, Chairman of tbe

Committee on Environment, Energy and Natural Resourcesy-t

whfch the following B1l1s were referred. action taken May

4, 1978, reported the same back with the following

recommendations: do pass House Bills 2535, 2754, 3054,

3209, and 3225. Representative Laurfnoy Chairman of the .

Committee on Eleetions, to vhich the following Bills were

referred action taken May 3, 1978, reported the same#

back wfth the followin recommendations: do pass as

*z GEN ERA L ASSEM BLY, x R 1 5 . gj ..? 86 w fd s'rlme oe lut-laols

V . ' ' $. w.. % . . : . r . .. . . . .. .. . . . - . , . . . .. , . e .. . ... u J... ., ).r.x.. r'i vc.u a . ..a . . , . .. . $!-. . ..... ... u.. x uq JkQ t..a..a .,J , a = . , , . . .w e

' 1

I

88

amended House Bills 1068, 2554, 2837. 3337. Do not pass

as amended House Bi11 2744. Introduction and First

Reading. House Bf11 3377, Jaffe-Robfnson. A Bill for an

Act making ap appropriation to the Departmeat of Childrea I

f the Bi1l. No Iand Family Services. First Reading o

further busfness. The House now stands adjournedtuntiljj '10:00 tomorrow morning for a Perfunctory Session.

!'

j

,. ' GEN ERA L ASSEM BLY

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TRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE: Xay 4, 1978

1.

Page Time Speaker Informatfon t11 12:00 Speaker Redmond House to order

Reverend Mrueger Prayer

Speaker Redmond Ease until 1:00

l1:00 Speaker Redmond Ease until 1:30

2 1:30 Speaker Redmond Perfuact Sessfoa jI

3 Clerk O'Brien Commtttee Reports I

speaker Redmond Introductfon. 1st Readiag

4 Ryan Introductlon I'

ker Redmond 11spea

5 Margalus

Speaker Redmond tRyan Introduction

l

j Speaker Redmond jl1, j 6 B 1. an c o l .l 1

.

Speaker Redmond 2nd Readfng

Clerk OfBrien HB 3230j ,I

Speaker Redmond TUORl1 clerk o'Brien HB 2969, 2ad Peading1 dment //1 & 2 adoptedAmenl

.1)Speaker Redmond Third Reading!

Clerk Clerk O'Brfen HB 2970 j1

Speaker Redmond

7 (Schlickman Point of Order l1( I

(speaker Redmond I$l2:15 Geo-Karis Introduction' I

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TRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE: May 4, 1978

2.I

Paqe Time Speaker Information

8 Speaker Redmond

Clerk ö'Brien HB 2977, 2nd ReadingAmendment ?/1 &. 2 adopted

Speakèr Redmond

Clerk O'Brien Amendment //1 fafledFloor Amendment //2

, Epton Withdraws Amendment1

Speaket Redmond 3rd Reading

9 ' Matijevfch

Speaker Redmond

Clerk O'Brien HB 2983, 2nd ReadingAmendment //1 failedAmendment //2 adopted

Speaker Redmond Third Reading

Clerk O'Brien HB 2989. 2nd Readingl

1' , speauer Redmondl10 clerk O'Brien HB 2999, 2nd Reading

Amendment //1 adopted

Speaker Redmond

Clerk O'Brien HB 3002, 2nd Reading

. speaker RedmondI

Clerk o'Brien Amendment //1

Speaker Redmond

11 Yourell

Speaker Redmond

(skfnner( '(Yourell

' Speaker Redmond

Rf c hmo n d

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TRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE : Mav -4 . 1 9 7:

3

Paae Time Speaker Information

. (speaker Redmond( .

1. 2 ( Yo u r e 11 .I

Speaker Redmond

Skinner . !

.. Yourell

. . .'

speaker Redmond Amendment //1 adopted '1'

jClerk O Brien KB 2977, 2nd Reading. Floor Amendmeat #2

Speaker Redmond

Kane Leeve to table Amendment //2

13 Speaker Redmond Amendment withdrawny 3rd.

ueagsugI

Ryan

- - speaker Redmond

1 clerk o'Brten HB 3035, 2nd Reading 'Speaker Redmond 3rd. Reading

Clerk OîBrien HB 3039, 2nd. Readfng :f

Speaker Redmond

l , .Cl

erk 0 Brfen HB 3040l' speaker Redmond

uoulihan %OOR

speaker Redmond

clerk o'Brien HB 304L. 2nd Reading1

speaker Redmond

'Brien HB 3077, 2nd Readfng 1Clerk 0Ameadments 1 & 2 adopted

Speaker Redmond

14 Clerk O'Brien Motion to table Amendment 1

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TRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE : May 4 . ..19 78

4 .Page Time Speaker Information

Sp e ake r Re dmond

1 ? 2..'. l , t 'JJ . ; P e t e r s T O O R

15 Clerk O'Brien HB 3111: 2nd Readfng

. Speaker Rednond

Clerk O'Brien HB 3120, 2nd Readfng IMotion to table Avendmeat 2

Speaker Redmond

16 Peters '

Speaker Redmond

17 Kosinski

' Speaker Redmond

18 Totten Supports motioa to table

Speaker Redmond

McAuliffeISpeaker Redmoad

19. 2:40 Matilevich

Sp e alcta r R e dmor. d

C on t il! speauer Redmond1 2o sarnes

Speaker Redmond Motion to table fails

21 Bowman

Speaker Redmond

. Clerk O'Brien HB 3131. 2nd ReadingAmendment 1 adopted '

Speaker Redmond

Clerk O'Brien Floor Amendment //2

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TRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE: May 4. 1978

5 . 1

Page Tfme Speaker Information

Speaker Redmond

VonBoeckmanI

22 speaker Redmond

1Totten

iSpeaker Redmond

vonBoeckmaa I

Tottes Iclerk o'Brten

speaker Redmond

VoaBoeckman

Speaker Redmond Amendment ?/2 adopted

Lucco

- . 23 Speaker Redmond

Clerk O'Brien HB 3132, 2nd ReadingAmendment //l adopted

Speaker Redmond

Clerk O'îriea Fkoor Amevzdment #Z

Speaker Redmond

1:47 VonBoeckman

Speaker Redmond Amendment adopted

clerk O'Brien HB 3133, 2nd Reading

speaker Redmond

'Brîen HB 3134. 2nd Reading lclerk O

24 Speaker Redmond

Madigan TooR

speaker Redmond

Vonboeckman

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TRANSCRIPTION IN9XX DATEZ May 4. 1978

6 .

Paze Time Speaker Information

Clerk O'Brfen HB 3135, 2nd Reading

Speake'r Redmond

Clerk OêBrien HB 3147, 2nd Reading

Speaker Redmond I

Clerk OêBrien HB 3149, 2nd Reading i

Speaker Redmond :IClerk O'Briea Floor Kmendment /J1'

jSpeaker Redmond

25 Geo-Karts

Speaker Redmon; Amendnent adopted 3rd Read. ag

clerk O'Brien HB 3163, 2nd Readfng

I Speaker Redmond

Clerk OfBrien HB 3167, 2nd Reading

' jt Speaker Redmond26 (Totten Inquiry of Chair

((Speaker Redmond

Clerk OfBrien Amendment //1

Speaker Redmond

Madigan

Speaker Redmond

27 (Ryan((Madfgan

Ispeaker Redmond I

Madigan Question 1

Speaker RedmondI

Ryan Amendment ?/1 ;

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TRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE: èlay 4, 1978 :

7 .

Paae Time Speaker Informatlon

Speaker Redmond

Madfgan Oppose

28 Totten

Speaker Redmond

!Houlfhan. '

j. Speaker Redmond Amendment //1 fails

Clerk O'Brien HB 3224, 2nd Readfng

Speaker Redmond

29 Clerk O'Brien HB 3230, 2nd Reading

Speaker Redmond

Barnes Move to table Amendment #1

Speaker Redmond

.- peters

3:00 (Houlihan Question '(

30 (Barnes

Speaker Redmond Motion carrfes 3rd Reading'

31 Clerk O'Brien HB 3236, 2nd Reading

Speaker Redmond

O'Brien '

Speaker Redmond

Clerk O'Brien SB 1602, 3rd Reading

Speaker Redmondl

Madigan

32 Speaker Redmand Passed

Clerk OlBrien HB 3208

Speaker Redmond

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TRhNscRzpTloN INDEX DATE: May iy 1978

8 .

Page Time Speaker Informatfon

Clerk Q'Brien Ploor Amendment //1

Speaker Redmond

O'Brieu 'I

Speaker Redmond1

schlfckman Point of Order - Questtonscermaneaess 1

Speaker Redaond

33 Madigan Responds

Speaker Redmond

Schlickman

Speaker Redmond

Madigan

O 'Brien

Madigan

Speaker Redmond

3:11 Schlickmaa Responds to Schlfckman

i Speaker ltedmoad Ameadment is garmaae

McMasters

' 35 Speaker Redmond

o'Brien 10OR

speaker Redmond

conti HJR //76 - Move to concur

speaker Redmond Rouse concurs

clerk o'Brien HJRCA //29, 3rd Reading

Speaker Redmond

36 Dfprima

Speaker RedmondrLii'vlè44 c8%. tvjp 'r G E N E R A t, A s s E : I B t, Yr . .:j

, s,j .1 i' ïlvj

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vahxscuzsvzox zxosx ohvsz May 4- 1978

9 .

Page Time Speaker Informatlon

lotten Questfon

Clerk O'Brien

Speaker Redmond House concurs

3 7 '.1.. vï Lb.' 7: 1. e Te r z i ch

Speaker Redmond

llo f f man

Speaker Redmond

38 '' stuffle To close

speaker Redmoad

39 Cunningham

speaker Redmond

40 Friedrich

- . speaker Redmoad

l Terzich Explain vote. Stuffle Explain vott:

Speaker Redmond

41 Stuffle Asks for poll of absentees

. Speaker Redmond

l Clerk O'Brien Polls absentees

;' Speaker Redmond SJRCA //31 not adopted

Matijevich

Speaker Redmondl

Ryan lntroduction

Speaker Redmond

Stiehl lntroduction

Speaker RedmondI

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vahuscRzpTzox zuosx oATs: May 4. 1978

10 .

Pame Ttme Speaker Information

l fch IntroducttonMatijev

speaker Redmond

42 Kelly HB 170 - Motion to discharg

Speaker Redmond

43 Tipsword

Speaker Redmond

44 3:36 Kempiners

Speaker Redmond

A5 Huff

Speaker Redmond

Wolf Support

Speaker Redmond

Caldwell

Speaker Redmoad

*6 Epton

Speaker Redmond

Jones, E.

Speaker Redmond

l Epton

Speaker Redmond

47 Ewell

Speaker Redmond

Holewinski Moves previous questfon

Speaker Redmond

Kelly To close

Speaker Redmond

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TRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE: May 4, 1978

ll.Page Time Speaker InfonMtion

Kelly Asks for poll of absentees

Speaker Redmond

48 Clerk Hall Polls absentees

49 Speaker Redmond Motion fails

50 Daniels HB 1333 (motion)

Speaker Redmond

51 Houlihan

Speaker Redmond

Schlickman

52 Speaker Redmond

Bowman

Speaker Redmond

RyanI

Speaker Redmond

53 Getty

Speaker Redmond

I Wikoff Moves Previous question

Speaker Redmond

!I 54 Daniels

Speaker Redmond

Houlihan Verification

Speaker Redmond

Daniels Asks for poll of absentees

Speaker Redmond

Clerk Hall

Speaker Redmond

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uay 4s lqggTRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE:

. 1 2 .

PaRe Time Speaker Informatfon

Houlihan Withdraws request

55 Speaker Redmond Motion prevails

4:08 Speaker Bradley

Mcclain Parlfamentary Inquiry

Speaker Bradley

Younge HB 1535 (motion)!

Speaker BradleyiI

. . Kem/iners I. 11'

56 Tipsword

Speaker Bradley

1 vounge To close '

Speaker Bradley Motion fafls!

Madigan Moves to suspend rulesrelative to motion

Speaker Bradley Motioa carries

Madigan

Speaker Bradley

57 Polk HB 2485 (motion)l

Speaker Bradley

Katz

58 Speaker Bradley Motion Prevails

Jaffe HB 2658 (motion)

Speaker Bradley

59 Polk

Speaker Bradley

Jaffe

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Page Time Speaker InformationE .

60 4:17 Speaker Bradleyi .

( Clerk Hall P011 absenteesi

Speaker Bradley Motion fails!

Johnson HB 2703 (motion)

Speaker Bradley9' 61 Houlihan

Speaker Bradley

Barnes Inquiry

Speaker Bradley

'62 Houliltan

Speaker Bradley

1 LeinenweberI .l Speaker Bradley

Johnson Io LloseIII Speaker Bradley Motion fàils

Johnson HB 2704 (motion). I63 Speaker Bradley Motion fails

M Donald ''error ''c

l Speaker Bradley

Breslfn

' SpeakeT Bradley

Katz. I

Leave granted lspeaker Bradleyl64 Leinenweber HB 2770 (motion)

Speaker Bradley Motion prevails

65 Marovitz ' HB 3093:

'

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TRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE: May 4s 1978

14 .Paqe Time Speaker lnformation

Speaker Bradley Motion fafls

Johnson HB 3104 (motioa)

Speaker Bradley

66 Chapman oppose

speaker Bradley jJohnson To close

Speaker Bradley

Gaines

Speaker Bradley

Skinner

Speaker Bradley

67 Johnson Poll absentees

Speaker Bradley

11 . ,Conti Vote ayel i

Speaker Bradley

Kelly ISpeaker Bradley

Kane

l Speaker BradleyMartln P. Change to 'no'

Speaker Eradley

Barnesy E.M .

Speaker Bradley New Roll Call

68 Johnson

Speaker Bradley

Willer Votfng 'no?

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ION INDEX DATE: Xay 4, 1978 iTRANSCRIPT

1 5 .Page Time Speaker Informatïon

Speaker Bradley

Johnson Poll absentees

speaker Bradley

Chapman Verifieation

Speaker Bradley

MatfjevfchhSpeaker Bradleyi

69 Clerk O'Brlen Polls absentees

Speaker Bradley Motion faits

Giorgi HB 3118 (motion)

Katz

, speaker Bradley

.- . skinner!' Speaker Bradleyl

Skfnner.

70 Speaker Bradley

Walsh Explain vote

Speaker Bradley Motion prevafls

1' Telcser

Speaker Bradley

Lechowicz HB 3183 (motfon)

Speaker Bradley Motlon carrfes

71 ' 4:45 Giorgi HB 3199 (motfon)

Speaker Bradley

Meclain

Speaker Bradley

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vaaxscazpvlox zxosx oATs: May 4- z97a

16 .

Paae Time Speaker Information

Skinner

Speaker Bradley

72 Giorgi

Speaker Bradley

SfmmsIiSpeaker Bradley

Ryan Merkfkcatkon

Speaker Bradley

Giorgi TOOR

Speaker Bradley

Ryan

73 Speaker sradley

Mahar HB 3093 (motion)l Move to reconsfder vote

Speaker Bradley

Madigan T00R

Speaker Bradley

%' o k: k'c Youre 11 HB 28 9 3 2 8 9 4 (m0 t :L on )

Speaker Bradleyl

Wfkoff Parllamentary Inqufry

74 Speaker Bradley

4:52 McMasters

Speaker Bradley

Yourell

Speaker :radley Motkon prevails

75 Davfsy c. HB 2949 (motion)

76 Speaker Bradley

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TPANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE: Xay 4, 1978

l 7 .Paae Tfme Speaker Information

Schoeberletn

.. Speaker Bradley

Davisy C. To close

77 Speaker Bradley Motion carries

Vinson EB 3080 (motlon)

speaker Bradley

78 Houlihan

Speaker Bradley

Leinenweber

speaker Bzadley

Vinson To close

speaker Bradley

79 Walsh. -- - !)

Speaker Bradley

(Vinson Question TOORl ((speaker Bradley

80 Geo-Karis Point of Informatioa

speaker Bradley

ceo-Karls H3 3278 (motion)I

Speaker Bradley

Kane Oppose

Speaker Bradley

81 Stiehl Support

Speaker Bradley

Geo-Karfs To close

Speaker Bradley Motion fails

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May 4. 1978TRANSCRIPTION INDEX DATE:k

18 .Page Tlme Speaker Information

Muleahey

82 Speaker Bradley

Madigan Parliamentary Inquiry

Speaker Bradley

Skinner HB 777 (motion)Speaker Bradley

83 Pferce

Speaker Bradley

Skfnner

Speaker Bradley Motion faits - Return Bills'to Interim study

Madfgan Please explain84 Speaker Bradley

I MadiganIl Speaker Bradl

ey

clerk o'Brien Reads the Bills

speaker Bradley

5:15 Mahar HB 3093 - Move ro reconsfde

vote

I Speaker Bralley

Darrow

. 85 Speaker Bradley

Madigan Moves for adoptlon of'

Adjournment Resolutfon

Clerk O'Brien Reads Adjournment ResolutioSpeaker Bradley Adlournment Resolutfon

adopted

Matijevfch Announcement

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INDEX DATE: May 4 1978TRhuscRlpTloN ,

19Paae Time Speaker Information

Speaker Bradley

86 Clerk O'Brien Agreed Resolutions

Speaker BradleyI

Giorgi

Speaker Bradley Resolutions adopted

Clerk O'Brlen General Resolutions l

' Madigan Move for adjournment

Speaker Bradley

87-88 Clerk O'Brien Messages from the SenateKovse is adjourned

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