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Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
Submission
TGTWireless Performance
WG Report
(4 slides)
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
Submission
TGT Report
• Total meeting time: 14 hours
• Good strong attendance
• Plans:– Appoint permanent secretary, editor
• Tom Alexander appointed editor
• Several volunteers for secretary, but none permanent
– Hear technical presentations
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Progress during the week
• We heard many good technical presentations
• Much excellent discussion of framework continued
• We are starting to really get into details of metrics and methodologies now
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Presentations• 11-04/1203r1 – “Proposed template for TGT draft”, Alexander• 11-04/1419r0 – “A Taxonomy of Metrics”, Alexander• 11-04/1420r0 – “Link layer metrics proposal”, Alexander• 11-04/1402r0 – “Traceable Measurements of 802.11 PHY Layer
Performance”, Foegelle• 11-04/1222r1 – “Measurement Methodology Based on Approved
Framework”, Pirzada• 11-04/1476r0 – “A Proposed Controlled Open Air Test Methodology”,
Kobayashi• 11-04/1441r0, “TGt/WNM Collaboration”, Kwak• 11-04/1397r0 – “Rate vs. Range Test Methodology”, Fanny Mlinarsky• 11-04/1466r0, “Some Concepts of Rate Management Testing”, Wilhoyte
• TG meeting slides and report, 11-04/1389r3• TG minutes, 11-04/xxxx – to be supplied
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Telconferences Planned
• TGT is asking for a WG motion to approve teleconferences conducted starting two weeks hence to two weeks after the November plenary– Will be presented in the blanket telecon motion
• Thursdays, 12 noon Eastern Time, weekly– Phone info to be posted on reflector
• First telecon will be December 2nd
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Charles R. Wright
charles_wright@azimuthsystems.com
Welcome to TGT Evaluation of 802.11 Wireless
Performance
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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6. Patents
IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either
a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or
b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination
This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.
IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG/TG/SG Meetings
• Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions
• Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share
• Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation
• Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.
If you have questions,contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administratorat patcom@ieee.org
Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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A Friendly Reminder…
• Don’t forget to log your attendance!– www.802wirelessworld.com
• Attendance server problems?– Talk to Harry Worstell
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
Submission
Proposed Agenda for San Antonio Meetings (1/2)
1. Chair comments2. Appoint secretary3. Approval of agenda4. Approve minutes
1. Berlin 11-04/1166r05. Call for presentations (in order specified)
1. 11-04/1203r1 – “Proposed template for TGT draft”, Tom Alexander, 15 min2. 11-04/1419r0 – “A Taxonomy of Metrics”, Tom Alexander, 15 min3. 11-04/1420r0 – “Link layer metrics proposal”, Tom Alexander, 45 min4. 11-04/1402r0 – “Traceable Measurements of 802.11 PHY Layer Performance”,
Michael Foegelle, 45 min5. 11-04/1397r0 – “Rate vs. Range Test Methodology”, Fanny Mlinarsky, 20 min6. 11-04/1222r1 – “Measurement Methodology Based on Approved Framework”,
Fahd Pirzada, 45 min (9 AM Wednesday, discussion extended to Thursday, 10:30 AM, for ½ hour)
7. 11-04/1476r0 – “A Proposed Controlled Open Air Test Methodology”, Mark Kobayashi, 45 min
8. 11-04/xxxx – Second usage scenario (multimedia/streaming), Fahd Pirzada (withdrawn by presenter)
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Proposed Agenda for San Antonio Meetings (2/2)
6. Appointment of editor7. Chair comments / progress from telecons
6. This document – “Short Refresher on Standards Development in 802.11”7. Discussion: 11-04/863r2 “Test Plan Template,” and proposal requirements and
selection criteria8. Presentations
6. Given in the order listed above9. New Items / Any other Business
6. Approve minutes from last telecon, 11-04/1417r07. Planning for January meeting8. 11-04/1466r0, “Some Concepts of Rate Management Testing”, Mike Wilhoyte9. 11-04/1397r0 – “Rate vs. Range Test Methodology”, Fanny Mlinarsky, 20 min
(moved from previous place on agenda due to conflicts)10. Other Task Group motions11. Standing Orders: 5:00 PM Thursday – any late votes that must meet the 4-
hour rule
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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TGT
30 minute recess
Meeting Schedule for week
TGT TGT
TGT
TGT
Closing business, motions at 5:00 pm
Opening, confirm editor, secretary,
writing drafts, template discussion
Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday
Lunch
Dinner
8:00
10:0010:30
12:30
1:30
3:304:00
6:00
7:30
9:30
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Timeline Going Forward• …• August 16 (?)
– NESCOM Approval!• September 802.11 meeting
– First meeting as a TG– Technical Presentations!
• November– Proposals for inclusion into draft
• January– Proposals for inclusion into draft
• March– Review of draft in preparation for LB
We are
here!
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
Submission
Progress since Berlin
• Held six teleconferences• Presentations/notes:
– 11-04-1156-01-000t-bottom-up-evaluation-802-11-performance-testing.ppt
– 11-04-1215-00-000t-measurement-methodology-proposal-based-approved-framework.ppt
– 11-04-1226-00-000t-link-layer-metrics-proposal-tgt.ppt
– 11-04-1397-00-000t-rate-vs-range-test-methodology.ppt
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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A Short Refresher on Standards Development in 802.11
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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50,000 foot view of the processCall for Interest (9.1.1)
Study Group (9.1.2)
Task Group (9.1.3)
Working Group Ballot (9.1.4)
Sponsor Ballot (9.1.5)
Standards Board Approval (9.1.6)
Publication (9.1.7)
We are here
Paragraph references are from 802.11 Policies and Procedures, 11-04/510r0
1 to 3 months
2 months to 1 year
2 months to 4 years
2 months to 1 year
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
Submission
How to write a draft1. Write a proposal
• Describe in a MSWord document a list of “instructions to the editor” (aka “draft normative text”). For whole new sections, this will be 100% new text/figures.
• Create Powerpoint presentation based on above to describe salient details2. Submit both docs to server at least 4 session hours before intent to
vote on proposal• The “4-hour rule” is part of 802.11 rules and is strenuously enforced• Why? It gives people time to read, understand and consider the proposal• TGT can also rule that longer period of time is required• Helpful to announce existence of the documents through the reflector
3. Make presentation before the group4. Make motion to accept proposal (the “draft normative text”) into the
draft• 75% majority required for any changes to a draft
(additions/changes/deletions)• If approved by group, editor will incorporate into the draft
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Another way to write a draft
• Have an open discussion of some aspect of the draft
• Ask editor if the direction is clear• If answer is “yes,” editor is empowered to make
the necessary changes– Approve by a vote the outcome, expressed as a written
motion
►Both methods are acceptable under the right circumstances!
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
Submission
All Commentsaddressed?
Technical ChangesMade?
Unresolvedcomments
>75%Approval?
Ready to submit to 802 EC for Sponsor Ballot
WG Approves to start WG Ballot
WG review of returned ballotsTo resolve comments
(includes requesting Disapprovers to indicate in writing whichComments being part of their no votes have been resolved satisfactorily)
WG Confirmation Letter BallotUsing WG ballot group at which 75% approval exceeded
Include: 1) revised text, 2) unresolved negative commentsAnd 3) all comments and resolutions
WG Letter BallotUsing current WG ballot group
No
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
No
All Commentsaddressed?
Technical ChangesMade?
Unresolvedcomments
>75%Approval?
Ready to submit to 802 EC for Sponsor Ballot
WG Approves to start WG Ballot
WG review of returned ballotsTo resolve comments
(includes requesting Disapprovers to indicate in writing whichComments being part of their no votes have been resolved satisfactorily)
WG Confirmation Letter BallotUsing WG ballot group at which 75% approval exceeded
Include: 1) revised text, 2) unresolved negative commentsAnd 3) all comments and resolutions
WG Letter BallotUsing current WG ballot group
All Commentsaddressed?
All Commentsaddressed?
Technical ChangesMade?
Technical ChangesMade?
UnresolvedcommentsUnresolvedcomments
>75%Approval?
>75%Approval?
Ready to submit to 802 EC for Sponsor Ballot
Ready to submit to 802 EC for Sponsor Ballot
WG Approves to start WG Ballot
WG Approves to start WG Ballot
WG review of returned ballotsTo resolve comments
(includes requesting Disapprovers to indicate in writing whichComments being part of their no votes have been resolved satisfactorily)
WG review of returned ballotsTo resolve comments
(includes requesting Disapprovers to indicate in writing whichComments being part of their no votes have been resolved satisfactorily)
WG Confirmation Letter BallotUsing WG ballot group at which 75% approval exceeded
Include: 1) revised text, 2) unresolved negative commentsAnd 3) all comments and resolutions
WG Confirmation Letter BallotUsing WG ballot group at which 75% approval exceeded
Include: 1) revised text, 2) unresolved negative commentsAnd 3) all comments and resolutions
WG Letter BallotUsing current WG ballot group
WG Letter BallotUsing current WG ballot group
No
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
No
802.11 process for draft approval
802.11 Policies & Procedures11-04/510r0, §9.1.4
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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What happens in Sponsor Balloting?
• Voters in the “Sponsor Pool”:– Review draft– Make comments– Vote
• Task Group must– Resolve these comments– Create revised draft– Submit for another round of review and voting
• Process follows similar flow chart as on previous slide• Sponsor Ballot pool formed by WG chair from interested
individual members of IEEE Standards Association (SA)
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
Submission
Rules about Drafts
• Offical drafts are owned by IEEE and available only to– Voting members (through
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/)– 802.11 meeting attendees (
http://www.802wirelessworld.com/), at the meeting only
• In other words, you will need to be a voting member or come to the meetings to get current copies of the draft!
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Slides created during the meeting
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Straw Poll #1
• Is the group in favor of accepting document 11-04/1203r1 as the starting point for the TGT draft, provided clauses 5,6,7,8 are deleted?
• Yes: 16
• No: 0
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Questions from IETF BMWG
• These questions will be considered in detail during a future telecon:– Minimize the radio-specific aspects of the testing, and
hence minimize the variability of the results. The Signal to Noise Ratio Section (3.5.9) is primarily where the topic is addressed, - but there are other key points throughout Section 3.5
– Test Conditions. I'm interested to know if the committee members agree that the repeatability goal was achieved in Tom & Scott's draft
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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New Business
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Motion
• Motion to Empower TGT to hold Telecons – Date: Thursdays– Time: 12 noon Eastern time– Duration: 1 hour– Next: Dec 2, 2004
• Yes: 3• No: 0• Abstain: 0
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Upcoming Telecon Schedule
15 16 17 18 19
Dec 2 Teleco
nDec 9 Teleco
nDec 16 Teleco
n
Dec 23
Dec 30
Jan 6 Teleco
nJan 13 Teleco
n
Thanksgiving (USA)
802 Plenary San Antonio
802.11 Interim Monterey
During the Dec 16 telecon, we will decide whether there is enough interest in having telecons on Dec 23 and Dec 30
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Backup Information
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Teleconference Info
• Date: Thursdays
• Time: 12 AM Eastern time (1600 UT)
• Duration: 1 hour
• Phone # 1-877-842-9288
• International: +1-847-597-8068
• Passcode: 827 235
• Next: December 2, 2004
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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Email Reflector
• Original reflector: stds-wpp@ieee.org– Set up under aegis of EMC Society
• 802.11 reflector: stds-802-11-tgt@ieee.org– Requires 802.11 membership to send to it– Can be monitored through 802.11 web site
• 802.11 rules require all SG communication to be through reflector
• Use of WPP reflector will be discontinued after March 802.11 meeting
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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References for 802.11 Newcomers (1 of 2)
• Web site:– http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/
• Document server:– http://www.802wirelessworld.com/– Sign up for an account– No need to be an 802.11 member to get an account– Once logged in, “join” 802.11:
• Click on “802.11 WLAN WG” on left• In center window, choose to become a new member
– Click again on “802.11 WLAN WG”• An additional subitem called “Documents” will be revealed – click on
it– You’ve reached the document server!
Nov 2004
C. Wright, Azimuth Systems
doc.: IEEE 802.11-04/1389r3
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References for 802.11 Newcomers (2 of 2)
• Document numbering scheme– WG-YY-NNNN-RR-gggg-English-document-title.ext
• WG = 802 working group number, e.g. “11” as in 802.11
• YY = two digits of year
• NNNN = document number
• RR = document revision number
• gggg = 802.11 group to which the document pertains
– Example:• 11-04-0187-00-0wpp-telecon-agenda-19-feb-04.ppt
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