Coproduction: a vision for Wales

Co-production & Powergetting real

Dr Simon Duffy ￭ The Centre for Welfare Reform ￭ 29th November 2012 ￭ Cardiff, Wales ￭ Presentation for WCVA

1.Real shifts of power - Good intentions are not enough.

2.Entitlements - We need rights - not gifts.

3.Family and community - We are not strong enough on our own.

4.Social justice - We need constitutional change in the welfare state.

Co-production is empty without

Co-production might mean

“...the standard of justice depends on the equality of power to compel and that in fact the stronger do what they have the power to do and the weak accept what they have to accept.”

cited by Thucydides

1. Good intentions won’t work

Erving Goffman's Asylums (1960) arose out the time he spent in 1955-56 at St Elizabeth's Hospital Washington DC, where he observed at first hand the daily life of mental patients and staff. he concluded that in the 'total institution' that asylum was, doctors and patients were bound together in a masquerade in which the first had to behave in authoritarian fashion while the second enacted variations on the themes of manic craziness: even if power lay with the doctors, both colluded in a social order which perpetuated madness rather than the vaunted and hoped-for cure.

From Mad, Bad and Sad by Lisa Appignanesi

1.Purpose - a life of meaning

2.Freedom - directing my own life

3.Money - having enough on which to build

4.Home - being where I belong

5.Help - that fits me

6.Life - getting stuck in

7.Love - getting it and giving it

Citizenship is the key

2. Not gifts, but entitlements

We have little faith in the 'average sensual man', we do not believe that he can do more than describe his grievances, we do not think he can prescribe the remedies

Beatrice Webb

The victorious ‘Fabians’

We say there ought to be in the world a great mass of scattered powers, privileges, limits, points of resistance, so that the mass of Commons may resist tyranny. And we say that there is a permanent possibility of that central direction, however much it may have been appointed to distribute money equally, becoming a tyranny.

G K Chesterton

The defeated ‘Distributivists’

3. Not on our own

Personalisation Forum Group

4. Time to rethink welfare

Honour can exist anywhere,

love can exist anywhere,

but justice can exist only among people who found their relationships upon it.Ursula Le Guin