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CFS Group Report of the 3rd Meeting of the ILC-MAC CFS Position on MAC Comments. J-L Baldy DRAFT. Page 3 The Project does not contain Preconstruction Costs (as Regards CFS Activities) : Not Obvious which costs excluded from Estimates. 1. Page 4 Costs Risk Analysis for CFS Activities. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation
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GDE Meeting, Beijing, 4-7 February 2007GDE Meeting, Beijing, 4-7 February 2007 1
Design and Cost EstimatesDesign and Cost EstimatesCFS Group – European RegionCFS Group – European Region
CFS GroupCFS Group
Report of the 3rd Meeting of the ILC-MACReport of the 3rd Meeting of the ILC-MAC
CFS Position on MAC CommentsCFS Position on MAC Comments
J-L BaldyJ-L Baldy
DRAFTDRAFT
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Page 3Page 3 The Project does not contain Preconstruction Costs (as Regards CFS Activities) :The Project does not contain Preconstruction Costs (as Regards CFS Activities) :Not Obvious which costs excluded from EstimatesNot Obvious which costs excluded from Estimates
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Page 4Page 4 Costs Risk Analysis for CFS Activities Costs Risk Analysis for CFS Activities2
Page 5Page 5 Optimization of Overall Heat DissipationOptimization of Overall Heat DissipationConfirmation / Clarification on Air Conditioning System CostConfirmation / Clarification on Air Conditioning System Cost
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Page 6/1Page 6/1 No Attempts Reported to InvestigateNo Attempts Reported to InvestigateILC Costs assuming a Shallow SiteILC Costs assuming a Shallow Site
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Page 6/2Page 6/2 Lists of Buildings : Two Lists needed, One for Needed Buildings on a Stand Alone Site, Lists of Buildings : Two Lists needed, One for Needed Buildings on a Stand Alone Site, One for Sites close to Existing HEP LaboratoriesOne for Sites close to Existing HEP Laboratories
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Page 6/3Page 6/3 Shaft Diameter depending on Details of the Cavity Module Cryostat DesignShaft Diameter depending on Details of the Cavity Module Cryostat DesignOverall Savings for reducing the 14 m Shafts to 9 m Diameter.Overall Savings for reducing the 14 m Shafts to 9 m Diameter.
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Page 7Page 7 Give the Cost and Benefits for an Insulated Water Return Pipe.Give the Cost and Benefits for an Insulated Water Return Pipe.Give Consequences for Rising the Delta For Water Temperature (of more than the present 10°C).Give Consequences for Rising the Delta For Water Temperature (of more than the present 10°C).
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Page 7Page 7 The Committee suggests reassessing the Specified Emergency Power Value The Committee suggests reassessing the Specified Emergency Power Value since it appears quite Low.since it appears quite Low.
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Page 8Page 8 Combination of Service Access Shaft and Neighboring Detector Installation ?Combination of Service Access Shaft and Neighboring Detector Installation ?Reasons for the Necessity of an Access Shaft over the Service Cavern for BDS Area.Reasons for the Necessity of an Access Shaft over the Service Cavern for BDS Area.
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The Project does not contain Preconstruction The Project does not contain Preconstruction Costs (as Regards CFS Activities) :Costs (as Regards CFS Activities) :
Not Obvious which costs excluded Not Obvious which costs excluded from Estimatesfrom Estimates
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CFS Preconstruction CostsCFS Preconstruction Costs
Civil Engineering – Basis of Costing Exercise (4)Civil Engineering – Basis of Costing Exercise (4)Not Included in Cost Estimates :Not Included in Cost Estimates :
• All R&D (before TAll R&D (before T00) : Survey and Alignment for CFS ) : Survey and Alignment for CFS
only)only)• Geotechnical Investigations (before TGeotechnical Investigations (before T00) : 0.3% of ) : 0.3% of
Civil Engineering CostsCivil Engineering Costs• Purchase of Land (Surface, and Underground if Purchase of Land (Surface, and Underground if needed)needed)• Cost of Local Formalities (Impact Study, …)Cost of Local Formalities (Impact Study, …)• Consultants, Architects, Experts fees before TConsultants, Architects, Experts fees before T00 : all : all
design and Specifications up to Tender Stage, design and Specifications up to Tender Stage, 3.5% of Civil Engineering Cost3.5% of Civil Engineering Cost
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-5 -4 -3 -1 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7
T0 = 20122007
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RDR/Reviews
Bid to Host Specs
Preparation of Bids to Host
Site Selection Process
EDR (All CFS)
Site Investigations
Call for Tender Preparation (CE Works + early Services)
Call for Tender Procedure (CE Works + early Services)
Contract(s) Placing(CE Works + early Services)
Administrative Procedures+ Site Preparation Utilities
CE + other CFS Works
Machine Supply, Install, Assembly
Commissioning
R&D
TENTATIVE OVERALL TIME SCHEDULE2018
Selection of Main Consultants
Site Independent Eng. Studies(All CFS)
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Costs Risk Analysis for CFS ActivitiesCosts Risk Analysis for CFS Activities
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Optimization of Overall Heat DissipationOptimization of Overall Heat DissipationConfirmation / Clarification on Air ConditioningConfirmation / Clarification on Air ConditioningSystem CostSystem Cost
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No Attempts Reported to InvestigateNo Attempts Reported to InvestigateILC Costs assuming a Shallow SiteILC Costs assuming a Shallow Site
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European Sites “For Reference”European Sites “For Reference”• DESY SiteDESY Site
• Shallow Site (-10 m to -20 m) in Sedimentary Sand 70% and Shallow Site (-10 m to -20 m) in Sedimentary Sand 70% and Marl (30%) in Water TableMarl (30%) in Water Table
• Tunnel Excavation by Hydro or Earth Pressure Balanced Tunnel Excavation by Hydro or Earth Pressure Balanced TBMs, other Works from SurfaceTBMs, other Works from Surface• Design and Costing Carried Out to the Same Level of Detail Design and Costing Carried Out to the Same Level of Detail
as for the CERN Site, with the Same Consultantas for the CERN Site, with the Same Consultant• Same Layouts adapted to Specificities of SiteSame Layouts adapted to Specificities of Site• Cost by Compare to CERN Site :Cost by Compare to CERN Site :
• Total CFS : +13 %Total CFS : +13 %• Civil Engineering : + 20%Civil Engineering : + 20%
(1) Official Confirmation “for Reference” Not Received(1) Official Confirmation “for Reference” Not Received
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European Sites “For Reference”European Sites “For Reference”• DUBNA SiteDUBNA Site
• Shallow Site (- 20 m average) in drift Clay under Superficial Shallow Site (- 20 m average) in drift Clay under Superficial Layer of Alluvial DepositsLayer of Alluvial Deposits
• Tunnel Excavation by Shield TBMs, other Works from Tunnel Excavation by Shield TBMs, other Works from SurfaceSurface• Cost Estimates Based on Valencia Layouts (Last Cost Estimates Based on Valencia Layouts (Last Information Received by End November Possibly Not Information Received by End November Possibly Not Taken into Account)Taken into Account)• Cost by compare to CERN Site :Cost by compare to CERN Site :
• Total CFS : +9%Total CFS : +9%• Civil Engineering : -13% (Underground -29%)Civil Engineering : -13% (Underground -29%)• Electrical Engineering : +43%Electrical Engineering : +43%• Process Cooling Water : +58%Process Cooling Water : +58%
(2) According to Last Information Provided by G. Shirkov 11-12-06(2) According to Last Information Provided by G. Shirkov 11-12-06
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Engineering, study work and documentation
9%
Underground Facilities
81%
Surface Structures
8%
Site Development
2%
• Distribution of CE Costs (One IR Alternative)
Asian Site
Europe CERN Site Europe DESY Site
Americas CERN Site
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Lists of Buildings : Two Lists needed, One Lists of Buildings : Two Lists needed, One for Needed Buildings on a Stand Alone Site, for Needed Buildings on a Stand Alone Site, One for Sites close to Existing HEP One for Sites close to Existing HEP LaboratoriesLaboratories
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Shaft Diameter depending on Details of the Shaft Diameter depending on Details of the Cavity Module Cryostat DesignCavity Module Cryostat Design
Overall Savings for reducing the Overall Savings for reducing the 14 m Shafts to 9 m Diameter.14 m Shafts to 9 m Diameter.
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SHAFTS Diameter Reduction from 14 m to 9 mSHAFTS Diameter Reduction from 14 m to 9 m(Shafts 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11)(Shafts 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11)
• EUROPE : EUROPE : • ∆ ∆ Cost : 100’523 – 49’818 = 50’705 USD/mCost : 100’523 – 49’818 = 50’705 USD/m• Average depth : 100 mAverage depth : 100 m• Savings : 50’705 x 6 x 100 = 30.4 MUSDSavings : 50’705 x 6 x 100 = 30.4 MUSD• + 10% uncertainties on moraines = + 10% uncertainties on moraines = - 33.5 MUSD- 33.5 MUSD
• AMERICAS :AMERICAS :• ∆ ∆ Cost : 134’768 – 78’280 = 56’488 USD/mCost : 134’768 – 78’280 = 56’488 USD/m• Average depth : 135 mAverage depth : 135 m• Savings : 56’488 x 6 x 135 = Savings : 56’488 x 6 x 135 = -45.8 MUSD-45.8 MUSD
• ASIA :ASIA : Not Applicable (Slopped Access Galleries) Not Applicable (Slopped Access Galleries)
Additional Costs on Reinforcement of Modules Structures to Additional Costs on Reinforcement of Modules Structures to be assessed by RFbe assessed by RF
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Give the Cost and Benefits for an Insulated Give the Cost and Benefits for an Insulated Water Return Pipe.Water Return Pipe.
Give Consequences for Rising the DeltaGive Consequences for Rising the DeltaFor Water Temperature For Water Temperature (of more than the present 10°C)(of more than the present 10°C)
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The Committee suggests reassessing the The Committee suggests reassessing the Specified Emergency Power Value since it Specified Emergency Power Value since it appears quite Low.appears quite Low.
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Emergency Power Value (1)Emergency Power Value (1)
• What should be taken for emergency power needs further considerationWhat should be taken for emergency power needs further consideration and clear decision at EDR stageand clear decision at EDR stage
• At present stage, we guestimated that following items should be considered:At present stage, we guestimated that following items should be considered:
- Emergency ventilation- Emergency ventilation - Emergency ligthing- Emergency ligthing - Emergency drainage pumps- Emergency drainage pumps - Alarms and signalling systems- Alarms and signalling systems - Access control systems- Access control systems - lifts- lifts
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Emergency Power Value (2)Emergency Power Value (2)
• Steady state consumption is 1.4 MWSteady state consumption is 1.4 MW
• Emergency supply system as designed and costed allows for 5 to 10 MWEmergency supply system as designed and costed allows for 5 to 10 MW
• Inrush current for users requires a factor of 2 to 3 Inrush current for users requires a factor of 2 to 3
• We suggest to state 3.8 MW in EMER column of power table We suggest to state 3.8 MW in EMER column of power table hence an overall total of 229.7 MWhence an overall total of 229.7 MW
• However main cost driver is distance rather than powerHowever main cost driver is distance rather than power
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Combination of Service Access Shaft and Combination of Service Access Shaft and Neighboring Detector Installation ?Neighboring Detector Installation ?
Reasons for the Necessity of an Access Reasons for the Necessity of an Access Shaft over the Service Cavern for BDS Area.Shaft over the Service Cavern for BDS Area.
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Reasons for Necessity of an Access Shaft to the Reasons for Necessity of an Access Shaft to the Service Cavern of the BDS Area SystemService Cavern of the BDS Area System
• Easy and Direct Access to all Equipment/Components Easy and Direct Access to all Equipment/Components in Service cavernin Service cavern
• Safety Access Required to such a Large cavernSafety Access Required to such a Large cavern• Possibility to Access the Service cavern at all Times Possibility to Access the Service cavern at all Times
(Shielding not Required)(Shielding not Required)• Specific Crane and Lift in the Service Shaft : no need Specific Crane and Lift in the Service Shaft : no need
for time sharing with one of the Detectors (nearest one)for time sharing with one of the Detectors (nearest one)• Direct Access to the BDS Service Tunnel : easier transport Direct Access to the BDS Service Tunnel : easier transport
of BDS equipment from the surfaceof BDS equipment from the surface• Easier Access to Survey Galleries for Alignment of Machine/Detectors Easier Access to Survey Galleries for Alignment of Machine/Detectors ComponentsComponents• Access to Detectors hall in case of Failure of Lowering Equipment Access to Detectors hall in case of Failure of Lowering Equipment
in the 16 m Diameter Shafts over the Detector Hallin the 16 m Diameter Shafts over the Detector Hall
CE Cost : CE Cost : EuropeEurope ~ ~ 5.5 MUSD 5.5 MUSDAmericasAmericas~~ 10.6 MUSD 10.6 MUSDAsia Asia ~ 13.7 MUSD~ 13.7 MUSD
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